It's a convenience issue. I'd love to have all my books on CD's so I can either 1) leave them at work and use the dead tree's at home, or 2) carry them back and forth each day. There have been plenty of times that I need a resource that I know I have at home ( "I think something out of the Dragon book would help here"), but no way to access it.
It doesn't matter. The point isn't in the quote, or to the point the author is trying to make. There a way of answering the questions you may have asked had you listen to the author speak his thoughts. There is no reason not to take advantage of the benefits of the medium that it is printed in.
strongly doubt these were posted on a lobby card with URLS embedded; nor does reposting the message with them gratuitously inserted add anything to the material. This is particularly inappropriate considering the other current thread on news editing & munging
Nonsense. Those links are completely appropriate. My Perl books weren't originally imprinted with hyperlinks, but the fact that my cd versions of them are is a godsend. The whole point of hyperlinking is to be able to follow a side path through links and come back to the original content a little more knowledgeable. Why should someone who's interested in, say one of the movies have to go to google and search for a topic, when it's much easier, convenient, and meanigful to embed the links directly into the original content.
My buddy is a chemist, we've been talking about building a periodic table for years. The tile idea is also a good one though I'll have to suggest it to him.
You do actually have more power over the government than Microsoft or any large corporation. You have to power to vote your representative out of office, which those companies don't. Rich people can't actually buy votes; they can only spend large amounts of money to convince voters to elect people who will work for big business over the voter's interest.
Nonsense. To start, it doesn't matter who you vote into office, they are they subject to voting the way the money blows. As far as the rich buying votes. Of course not directly, but indirectly the more money you have to throw around the liklier it is that you'll get your way.
As opposed to mentioning ESR and Alan Cox? The whole poitn is to use OSS whether it be OpenBSD or Linux or anything else for that matter.
This is why BSD doesn't get many nods of the head in print. Because as soon as you do they think they're king of the world, so they just get left out altogether.;)
This is a joke right. It's gotta be. You can't possibly think for a second that you have more of a voice in government than Microsoft (any large corp actually).
I disagree. I think the guy intentially places the disclaimer so small at the bottom of the page to encourage confusion
Oh just like the stuff on just about ANY contract drawn up by a lawyer. I don't have much sympathy about this aspect of the site for a bunch of lawyers who do this kind of stuff on a regular basis. Small print was something invented for lawyers so companies could legally disclaim or put clauses into a contract that would be less than appealing to the consumer with the hopes that they wouldn't read it. Case of their own medicine I'd say.
I see that as foolish, and I guess my company did to. Sick days were converted to personal days. Those days off are just as much a part of your compensation package as vacation days. So use them. Why? Number one, at least for engineers, is to prevent burnout. During the summer, if it's a nice day, I'm more than willing to call out, grab my bike and spend the day hitting the twisties. No better time than on a weekday: state park roads are open (they tend to be closed for most of the day on weekends to allow people to wander around without fear of vehicles), there are fewer cops on the backroads, and less cars to take my turns away by going to slow.
Why should I rely solely on my vacation for this? At the end of the year I can get paid for unused vacation, unused sick days disappear.
Now if you're an engineer you know that's not true. Managers do serve a useful purpose. They keep the users away from the engineers. Sure they probably get paid too much, but hey, look at it this way, if you hit a point where you're burnt out on coding you can move up the ladder and get paid more to do less.
Linux is nothing like DOS, and sure as hell is not like C64 BASIC. You conveniently ignore that issue.
Now I'm pretty sure that you're a kid, no one can be that ignorant, or if they are they don't deserve much more than pity. And since your only skill seems to be talking about subjects which you know nothing, this thread ends here. Go educate yourself, and come back when you have a clue, no wait don't come back until you have more than a clue because I'm going to give you the first one. Those operating systems are very much alike, in the functionality they provide to the user, there's your hint. Want more go read this it's a classic, and a good start. Take note, I said start reading one book by no means makes you an expert. Nor does reading slashdot about a subject.
It has nothing to do with a point of view. Unless your a solipsist, then none of this matters. I wasn't implying that you were a troll at all, I was showing that you have a complete lack of understanding what an operating system is. Which you've continued to demonstrate. I have no problem with an educated discussion. But you aren't capable of that. Resorting to an argument that tries to reduce the definition of an OS proves that beyond a doubt.
That may have more to do with the source of your facts than the situations themselves. My mistake though, you came across a little cavalier in your attitude toward potential damage due to bugs.
You know what? I don't consider Linux an operating system.
I stopped reading here, you're a fool. Hey I think wrestling is on, why don't you try watching that instead instead of trying to talk about something you don't understand.
Go check out the Risks Forum, links are available from the ACM webpage. There is plenty of proof and explanation for hundreds of software related mishaps. You're obviously looking in the wrong places.
Umm define catastrophic, because I define it as loss of life. I'm sure the fly-by-wire Airbus passengers who went down would consider it catastrophic, or the medical patients that recieved lethal doses of radiation. If you don't think death due to a bug is catastrophic send me your resume, I have some dosage control software I need a test subject for.
Nice try, but no. There is an accepted definition of an OS and it has nothing to do with the government. Just as there is a definition for a file system. Calling a filesystem browser part of the filesystem is not just foolish, it's dead wrong. There is a huge difference between what is required to be there for an OS and what is a user application. IE is a user application. It is not, or at least, should not be required. But that's not the root of the matter. The real problem is MS using monopoly tactics to drown out competition. For instance telling vendors that they cannot remove IE from the desktop, ect. It was to this accusation that MS claimed that IE was non-removable for their defense.
Just because you, or the government, or some pretentious asshole from MIT (no offense to real engineers, and prof at MIT) don't understand what an operating system is doesn't mean that the definition doesn't exist.
That's a valid POV, however AFAIC, when you pass something through over the airwaves you are giving it away. You have no choice in the matter as the creator. To be fair however, copyright law is, in my eyes, a travesty, and a ridiculous concept.
Well said. In the case of broadcast tv, you're beaming a signal on public airwaves. I'm not sure how you're allowed to restrict the use of that signal in any way shape or form. The fact that the NFL has that copyright disclaimer about reproducing the images shouldn't really be legal.
An argument could be made for cable since it's sent over lines paid for by the cable companies, but in that case, I'm paying for the content, quite a bit too.
Is tnt available anywhere over regular airwaves. We only get it here over cable. Not that I watch it, it's a terrible station. Sorry Ted, I'm not going to watch your commercials or the reruns of Full House you seems to think everyone wants.
You can leave the so-and-so game is coming out soon crap. That argument is worthless. I don't buy anything because something may (keyword) show up, I buy it because something is out NOW that I want to play.
Why is Sony better than MS, hmmm better business practices, better quality.. those are enough reasons for me.
Some of us do not buy from MS at all. And to assume that there are no MS haters in the console playing market it just foolish. More geeks play games, among geeks there is a greater percentage of MS haters, therefore a greater percentage of console players hate MS than the general public. There is a group among console gamers that would never buy a MS product. I'm one of them.
It's true, and it sucks. Usually a Sega system comes out and there is absolutely nothing I want to play. Fighting games, sports games, all the mindless crap that I just don't like (although recently reading about some of the fighting games I may have to change my opinion on those). Then jsut as some cool stuff starts coming out (SHenmue on the DC) they kill the damn system. Of course the benefit is that whenever Sega came out with a system I'd wait for the deathblow, pick it and the games that did look cool up cheap.
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It's a convenience issue. I'd love to have all my books on CD's so I can either 1) leave them at work and use the dead tree's at home, or 2) carry them back and forth each day. There have been plenty of times that I need a resource that I know I have at home ( "I think something out of the Dragon book would help here"), but no way to access it.
It doesn't matter. The point isn't in the quote, or to the point the author is trying to make. There a way of answering the questions you may have asked had you listen to the author speak his thoughts. There is no reason not to take advantage of the benefits of the medium that it is printed in.
strongly doubt these were posted on a lobby card with URLS embedded; nor does reposting the message with them gratuitously inserted add anything to the material.
This is particularly inappropriate considering the other current thread on news editing & munging
Nonsense. Those links are completely appropriate. My Perl books weren't originally imprinted with hyperlinks, but the fact that my cd versions of them are is a godsend. The whole point of hyperlinking is to be able to follow a side path through links and come back to the original content a little more knowledgeable. Why should someone who's interested in, say one of the movies have to go to google and search for a topic, when it's much easier, convenient, and meanigful to embed the links directly into the original content.
My buddy is a chemist, we've been talking about building a periodic table for years. The tile idea is also a good one though I'll have to suggest it to him.
The browser STILL wouldn't be the OS in that case.
but I wouldn't be surprised if a professional organization of ethical programmers would arise
There are. ACM and IEEE to name two.
You do actually have more power over the government than Microsoft or any large corporation. You have to power to vote your representative out of office, which those companies don't. Rich people can't actually buy votes; they can only spend large amounts of money to convince voters to elect people who will work for big business over the voter's interest.
Nonsense. To start, it doesn't matter who you vote into office, they are they subject to voting the way the money blows. As far as the rich buying votes. Of course not directly, but indirectly the more money you have to throw around the liklier it is that you'll get your way.
This is why BSD doesn't get many nods of the head in print. Because as soon as you do they think they're king of the world, so they just get left out altogether.
representatives YOU (not MSFT) elected
This is a joke right. It's gotta be. You can't possibly think for a second that you have more of a voice in government than Microsoft (any large corp actually).
I disagree. I think the guy intentially places the disclaimer so small at the bottom of the page to encourage confusion
Oh just like the stuff on just about ANY contract drawn up by a lawyer. I don't have much sympathy about this aspect of the site for a bunch of lawyers who do this kind of stuff on a regular basis. Small print was something invented for lawyers so companies could legally disclaim or put clauses into a contract that would be less than appealing to the consumer with the hopes that they wouldn't read it. Case of their own medicine I'd say.
Why should I rely solely on my vacation for this? At the end of the year I can get paid for unused vacation, unused sick days disappear.
Now if you're an engineer you know that's not true. Managers do serve a useful purpose. They keep the users away from the engineers. Sure they probably get paid too much, but hey, look at it this way, if you hit a point where you're burnt out on coding you can move up the ladder and get paid more to do less.
Linux is nothing like DOS, and sure as hell is not like C64 BASIC. You conveniently ignore that issue.
Now I'm pretty sure that you're a kid, no one can be that ignorant, or if they are they don't deserve much more than pity. And since your only skill seems to be talking about subjects which you know nothing, this thread ends here. Go educate yourself, and come back when you have a clue, no wait don't come back until you have more than a clue because I'm going to give you the first one. Those operating systems are very much alike, in the functionality they provide to the user, there's your hint. Want more go read this it's a classic, and a good start. Take note, I said start reading one book by no means makes you an expert. Nor does reading slashdot about a subject.
It has nothing to do with a point of view. Unless your a solipsist, then none of this matters. I wasn't implying that you were a troll at all, I was showing that you have a complete lack of understanding what an operating system is. Which you've continued to demonstrate. I have no problem with an educated discussion. But you aren't capable of that. Resorting to an argument that tries to reduce the definition of an OS proves that beyond a doubt.
That may have more to do with the source of your facts than the situations themselves. My mistake though, you came across a little cavalier in your attitude toward potential damage due to bugs.
You know what? I don't consider Linux an operating system.
I stopped reading here, you're a fool. Hey I think wrestling is on, why don't you try watching that instead instead of trying to talk about something you don't understand.
Go check out the Risks Forum, links are available from the ACM webpage. There is plenty of proof and explanation for hundreds of software related mishaps. You're obviously looking in the wrong places.
Umm define catastrophic, because I define it as loss of life. I'm sure the fly-by-wire Airbus passengers who went down would consider it catastrophic, or the medical patients that recieved lethal doses of radiation. If you don't think death due to a bug is catastrophic send me your resume, I have some dosage control software I need a test subject for.
Just because you, or the government, or some pretentious asshole from MIT (no offense to real engineers, and prof at MIT) don't understand what an operating system is doesn't mean that the definition doesn't exist.
That's a valid POV, however AFAIC, when you pass something through over the airwaves you are giving it away. You have no choice in the matter as the creator. To be fair however, copyright law is, in my eyes, a travesty, and a ridiculous concept.
And if I did see that announcement, I'd ignore it, it'd hardly be legal.
An argument could be made for cable since it's sent over lines paid for by the cable companies, but in that case, I'm paying for the content, quite a bit too.
Is tnt available anywhere over regular airwaves. We only get it here over cable. Not that I watch it, it's a terrible station. Sorry Ted, I'm not going to watch your commercials or the reruns of Full House you seems to think everyone wants.
Why is Sony better than MS, hmmm better business practices, better quality.. those are enough reasons for me.
Some of us do not buy from MS at all. And to assume that there are no MS haters in the console playing market it just foolish. More geeks play games, among geeks there is a greater percentage of MS haters, therefore a greater percentage of console players hate MS than the general public. There is a group among console gamers that would never buy a MS product. I'm one of them.
It's true, and it sucks. Usually a Sega system comes out and there is absolutely nothing I want to play. Fighting games, sports games, all the mindless crap that I just don't like (although recently reading about some of the fighting games I may have to change my opinion on those). Then jsut as some cool stuff starts coming out (SHenmue on the DC) they kill the damn system. Of course the benefit is that whenever Sega came out with a system I'd wait for the deathblow, pick it and the games that did look cool up cheap.