Remember, it's easy to get angry at Amazon for this type of behavior, just like it was easy to get angry at google for having foreign holding companies to avoid taxes, but the bottom line is they are not doing anything illegal, and are following the letter of the law to a T.
If you really want to see this change, blame the politicians who made the US tax code so complex and rife with so many loopholes. Scrapping the existing code and moving to something much simpler like a flat or useage tax would all but alleviate this issue.
I don't know about you, but beyond the obvious issues arrising from making the transfer of funds illegal, does this bother anyone?
The legislation would make it illegal for banks and credit card companies to make payments to these sites. It also allows law enforcement officials to force Internet service providers to remove links to the websites.
What does that mean exactly? Am I to believe that they can make the linking of sites illegal? Is this for any website? or just ISPs? And what ISPs advertise these places on their sites in the first place?
I'm not really a big fan of Microsoft, and I've been using Netscape ever since I first started browsing the web almost a decade ago, but you know what? Mozilla and Netscape DONT FOLLOW THE DHTML STANDARD. I'm down with open source, I'm down with Linux and all that good stuff, I run my own server and whatnot, and I've had plenty of sysadmin and web development experience with Linux and open source software, but the harsh reality of the situation is that Mozilla is at fault for not following the DHTML standards correctly, so no offence, please stop bitching and start fixing the problem instead...
Yeah, Who wants to place a wager on wether or not Microsoft is going to try to take some legal action against the authors of that article for reverse engineering their proprietary hardware?
But even if someone made an "anti-virus" virus, they themselves would probably get screwed over... Even Robin Hood isn't immune to the law...
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Where exactly in their contract does it state servers arn't allowed?? When I signed up, it was to MediaOne RoadRunner, and the contract said that servers WERE allowed, so long as they didn't affect any other users ability to use the service... This sort of blows...
I really hope they turn off the filters soon...
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I just found this little tidbit on AT&T's customer support site: (http://help.broadband.att.com/faq.jsp?content_id= 792&category_id=19)
Filtering Port 80 Q&As
Why is AT&T Broadband and Excite@Home Filtering HTTP Port 80, and how Does Filtering that Port Prevent the Code Red Virus from Spreading?
In an effort to alleviate the spread of the Code Red and Code Red II viruses on the AT&T Broadband High-Speed Cable Internet Network, AT&T Broadband and Excite@Home are indefinitely filtering all incoming traffic on http port 80 for residential customers.
Since the virus infects computers with the IIS Web server software and Window's NT or 2000 operating systems, the blocking of port 80 traffic is one of the first steps in containing the Code Red viruses on the Excite@Home and AT&T Broadband networks. Containing the Code Red viruses will assist in restoring the AT&T@Home service to the standard our customers have come to expect.
How does the Port 80 filter affect customers?
Blocking of inbound port 80 traffic only affects residential customers that are hosting Web servers with their cable modem. Residential customers that subscribe to Excite@Home Webspace or AT&T@Home Personal Pages and are not hosting a Web server are not affected by the filter.
Are Customers Who Subscribe to AT&T Broadband Business Services Affected by the Port 80 Filter?
The Port 80 filter only affects AT&T@Home residential customers.
Why Can't AT&T@Home Residential Customers Run Web Servers?
The AT&T@Home residential service offering is a consumer product designed for your personal use of the Internet. Customers must ensure that their activity does not improperly restrict, inhibit, or degrade any other user's use of the Services, nor represent (in the sole judgment of AT&T Broadband) an unusually large burden on the network itself.
The benefits and privileges available from the AT&T@Home, and the Internet in general, must be balanced with duties and responsibilities so that other customers can also have a productive experience.
Under the terms of the AT&T Broadband Subscriber Agreement customers are not to restrict, inhibit or otherwise interfere with the ability of any other person to use or enjoy the AT&T Equipment or the Service. See Prohibited Uses of Service (g) in the AT&T@Home Subscriber Agreement.
I really hope they turn off the filters once this whole thing blows over, otherwise I'll be upset, as I'm sure alot of others will be as well.
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Remember, it's easy to get angry at Amazon for this type of behavior, just like it was easy to get angry at google for having foreign holding companies to avoid taxes, but the bottom line is they are not doing anything illegal, and are following the letter of the law to a T.
If you really want to see this change, blame the politicians who made the US tax code so complex and rife with so many loopholes. Scrapping the existing code and moving to something much simpler like a flat or useage tax would all but alleviate this issue.
I mean, I don't see php or C++ going anywhere anytime soon....
As I said in a previous post, the convicted CHOSE this method of execution from all available options. Period.
I know for a fact there is 100 sided die, so I'd imagine there most likely is an 80 sided one. Check out the Gamblers Warehouse in Las Vegas.
Already happened, in spades:
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http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002J485M.
I'm sorry, but how is this informative?
I don't know about you, but beyond the obvious issues arrising from making the transfer of funds illegal, does this bother anyone?
The legislation would make it illegal for banks and credit card companies to make payments to these sites. It also allows law enforcement officials to force Internet service providers to remove links to the websites.
What does that mean exactly? Am I to believe that they can make the linking of sites illegal? Is this for any website? or just ISPs? And what ISPs advertise these places on their sites in the first place?
Woah, it almost nails a squid on the way down! Check it out at about 7:37
God I hope you die
Amen, brother!
Haha, it's funny cause it's true
Unfortunately that would still be illegal
Into the black hole!
My GF dumped me....
You have to be kidding me...
First Post! Booyakasha!
First Post? No way...
I'm not really a big fan of Microsoft, and I've been using Netscape ever since I first started browsing the web almost a decade ago, but you know what? Mozilla and Netscape DONT FOLLOW THE DHTML STANDARD.
I'm down with open source, I'm down with Linux and all that good stuff, I run my own server and whatnot, and I've had plenty of sysadmin and web development experience with Linux and open source software, but the harsh reality of the situation is that Mozilla is at fault for not following the DHTML standards correctly, so no offence, please stop bitching and start fixing the problem instead...
Yeah, Who wants to place a wager on wether or not Microsoft is going to try to take some legal action against the authors of that article for reverse engineering their proprietary hardware?
ah, someone after my own heart!
Google Does Rock!
But even if someone made an "anti-virus" virus, they themselves would probably get screwed over... Even Robin Hood isn't immune to the law...
Where exactly in their contract does it state servers arn't allowed?? When I signed up, it was to MediaOne RoadRunner, and the contract said that servers WERE allowed, so long as they didn't affect any other users ability to use the service... This sort of blows...
I just found this little tidbit on AT&T's customer support site: (http://help.broadband.att.com/faq.jsp?content_id= 792&category_id=19)
Filtering Port 80 Q&As
Why is AT&T Broadband and Excite@Home Filtering HTTP Port 80, and how Does Filtering that Port Prevent the Code Red Virus from Spreading?
In an effort to alleviate the spread of the Code Red and Code Red II viruses on the AT&T Broadband High-Speed Cable Internet Network, AT&T Broadband and Excite@Home are indefinitely filtering all incoming traffic on http port 80 for residential customers.
Since the virus infects computers with the IIS Web server software and Window's NT or 2000 operating systems, the blocking of port 80 traffic is one of the first steps in containing the Code Red viruses on the Excite@Home and AT&T Broadband networks. Containing the Code Red viruses will assist in restoring the AT&T@Home service to the standard our customers have come to expect.
How does the Port 80 filter affect customers?
Blocking of inbound port 80 traffic only affects residential customers that are hosting Web servers with their cable modem. Residential customers that subscribe to Excite@Home Webspace or AT&T@Home Personal Pages and are not hosting a Web server are not affected by the filter.
Are Customers Who Subscribe to AT&T Broadband Business Services Affected by the Port 80 Filter?
The Port 80 filter only affects AT&T@Home residential customers.
Why Can't AT&T@Home Residential Customers Run Web Servers?
The AT&T@Home residential service offering is a consumer product designed for your personal use of the Internet. Customers must ensure that their activity does not improperly restrict, inhibit, or degrade any other user's use of the Services, nor represent (in the sole judgment of AT&T Broadband) an unusually large burden on the network itself.
The benefits and privileges available from the AT&T@Home, and the Internet in general, must be balanced with duties and responsibilities so that other customers can also have a productive experience.
Under the terms of the AT&T Broadband Subscriber Agreement customers are not to restrict, inhibit or otherwise interfere with the ability of any other person to use or enjoy the AT&T Equipment or the Service. See Prohibited Uses of Service (g) in the AT&T@Home Subscriber Agreement.
I really hope they turn off the filters once this whole thing blows over, otherwise I'll be upset, as I'm sure alot of others will be as well.
that's exactly what happened to me... sucks, huh?