Just because something has always happened, doesn't make it right.
The reason this is different is that we aren't talking about newspapers, or television, or whatever, we are talking about The Internet. The Internet belongs to the people, not to the government, or, as some would like to make it, to big business. It is Ours.
...to grab.flv files would just be to get the FF addon that does that, I forget the name, but I used to have it installed. You just click on an icon to grab a flash out of the current window and it cues it for downloading.
I ((mostly)) listen to indie bands. But I also enjoy older stuff from the major labels. So I either pirate the music I want that comes through the labels (no, I don't feel bad about it, the musicians would have seen maybe all of 2% of the money I might have spent on one of their albums), or, if and only if I like a good number of the songs on a cd, I buy the cd and feel guilty of providing the recording industry more money to use in their war against the consumer.
No, it's not a perfectly idealistic way to combat the labels, but it's a helluva lot better than 90% of blind sheeple that don't even realize that it might be an issue. And I'm ok with that.
My university also has bittorrent blocked, and yes, it is a real problem because of all the legal downloads that also get blocked. I use Linux and frequently like to play with different distros, but every time I want to download an ISO, I have to either find a html or ftp download and wait for about 24 hrs to get it. That's when I can find a download that isn't bittorrented.
Thank you for spelling out in more detail what I meant to try to say in my post. Sometimes my methods of making a point come across as rather incisive.
For all those who replied with three things: That's great, I wasn't trying to make the point that communism is a good idea, I was trying to point out that many people automatically have a recoil to the word communism, even though they have no idea what it really is.
For the record, I'm a democratic socialist, not a communist. Communism won't be feasible until we become a true information society, aka, anything not just software, music, and movies, can be copied with little or no cost.
And maybe they aren't as repulsed by communism because they never went through the "Red Scare" where the word communism was subconsciously linked with evil in the general public's psyche.
Here's a quick test to see if you too have been a victim:
Quick, list three bad things about communism. Go.
If you answered um, ah, I guess because {{insert random dictator here}} was a communist?
Then go check out why you are repulsed by communism before ridiculing others for their "lax" views.
I would say that at least 95% of us (just guessing on the number who don't drive and/or come from a country without speed limits) are criminals even if you don't count copyright infringement.
Copyright is not an unjust law. It exists to spur creation and innovation,
It originally existed to do those things, in it's current form it's only job is to help the creators to control what other people do with the content they create.
and for a lot of artists, it's the only thing that allows them to afford to create the content you unjustly enjoy.
Actually, it has been shown repeatedly that giving content away for free actually helps increase sales. See this note from baen books, and this article from the Washington Post.
(on a side note, I honestly thought for a moment that you meant that my enjoyment of the content was unjust, AKA-I could read/watch/look at/listen to the content, as long as I hated it.:))
The concept of a creator being able to exert some control over their creation so that they can profit from it and prevent its adulteration to a certain extent is not wrong.
This is the part we mean is "unjust", so yes, it is.
And without copyright, anyone could take a GPL'ed project, incorporate it into closed source products, and no one could say boo to them.
Irrelevent.
while you might argue that the "true artists" would create anyway... how much less would they create when the only reward was personal satisfaction?
Maybe less, maybe more, maybe the same. But I'm fairly certain that it would be of better quality.
You're a fringe ideologue who probably creates nothing and is only looking for an excuse to commit intellectual gluttony on someone else's dime.
No I'm not. (I know you weren't talking to me in particular, but I am one of your "fringe ideologues" so I assume your assumptions apply to me as well.) I'm for copyright reform. I do not endorse piracy as a way of getting anyway you want for free. I do however see piracy as a morally (not legally, IANAL and TINLA) acceptable means of getting it if there is no feasible way of getting it otherwise.
~Jacob
There is no possible way to sum this up in a slashdot comment, but I think the best I have ever heard it put was by Lawrence Lessig in his book, Free Culture.
Also, because it must be said, "You must be new here."
Although I do agree with you on everything in your last post (except the free will thing, but my opinions on that are complicated), I do have to point out that we don't know how Obama would have voted on the Patriot Act, since he has never been a member of congress, so your prerequisite doesn't apply to him.
Any suggestions as to who those non-status quo candidates are?
I'm being serious (and only mildly sarcastic). Even with this scandal, Obama still seems (to me) to be the furthest from the copy-paste politicians who are the only other (viable) options, and the best choice.
Microsoft is committed to interoperability and transparency.
The RIAA is committed to diversity in music.
Haliburton is committed to creating American jobs.
Lawrence Lessig is committed to increasing copyright terms.
The FSF is committed to DRM.
Karl Marx is committed to capitalism.
George Bush is committed to getting out of the war.
The NRA is committed to stricter gun control.
The Pirate Bay is committed to eliminating file sharing.
ect...
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1. A signal, such as a word or action, used to prompt another event in a performance, such as an actor's speech or entrance, a change in lighting, or a sound effect.
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from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cue
Sounds like a good trick for the ruskies to get us to pay for most of it then threaten to take back Alaska.
Wow, you said that and my Risk instincts told me to start building up troops in Alaska...
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Just because something has always happened, doesn't make it right.
The reason this is different is that we aren't talking about newspapers, or television, or whatever, we are talking about The Internet. The Internet belongs to the people, not to the government, or, as some would like to make it, to big business. It is Ours.
And we want it to stay that way.
NOOO! Then I would be morally obliged to take Microsoft's side in a battle! I don't think my poor brain could handle that.
hmm, I have no problem skipping the trailers with gxine on my Ubuntu Box...
...to grab .flv files would just be to get the FF addon that does that, I forget the name, but I used to have it installed. You just click on an icon to grab a flash out of the current window and it cues it for downloading.
I ((mostly)) listen to indie bands. But I also enjoy older stuff from the major labels. So I either pirate the music I want that comes through the labels (no, I don't feel bad about it, the musicians would have seen maybe all of 2% of the money I might have spent on one of their albums), or, if and only if I like a good number of the songs on a cd, I buy the cd and feel guilty of providing the recording industry more money to use in their war against the consumer. No, it's not a perfectly idealistic way to combat the labels, but it's a helluva lot better than 90% of blind sheeple that don't even realize that it might be an issue. And I'm ok with that.
I have no issues paying the musicians, and do so in a heartbeat whenever possible. But I always think twice before paying a record label anything.
My university also has bittorrent blocked, and yes, it is a real problem because of all the legal downloads that also get blocked. I use Linux and frequently like to play with different distros, but every time I want to download an ISO, I have to either find a html or ftp download and wait for about 24 hrs to get it. That's when I can find a download that isn't bittorrented.
The users he is referring to don't have an OS of choice, that's the beauty of it, they would accept Feisty and go with it.
My bad, I was typing fast.
Actually, we renamed it "Piracy" quite a while ago, everyone loves pirates!
(Actually, we prefer to be called "American Buccaneers" but that's neither here nor there.)
Thank you for spelling out in more detail what I meant to try to say in my post. Sometimes my methods of making a point come across as rather incisive.
For all those who replied with three things: That's great, I wasn't trying to make the point that communism is a good idea, I was trying to point out that many people automatically have a recoil to the word communism, even though they have no idea what it really is.
For the record, I'm a democratic socialist, not a communist. Communism won't be feasible until we become a true information society, aka, anything not just software, music, and movies, can be copied with little or no cost.
And maybe they aren't as repulsed by communism because they never went through the "Red Scare" where the word communism was subconsciously linked with evil in the general public's psyche.
Here's a quick test to see if you too have been a victim:
Quick, list three bad things about communism. Go.
If you answered um, ah, I guess because {{insert random dictator here}} was a communist?
Then go check out why you are repulsed by communism before ridiculing others for their "lax" views.
I would say that at least 95% of us (just guessing on the number who don't drive and/or come from a country without speed limits) are criminals even if you don't count copyright infringement.
No, but we do have a natural right to copy anything that we own.
So it breaks down to: Do we own the content that is "sold" to us by the RIAA/MPAA? Shouldn't we?
(on a side note, I honestly thought for a moment that you meant that my enjoyment of the content was unjust, AKA-I could read/watch/look at/listen to the content, as long as I hated it.
There is no possible way to sum this up in a slashdot comment, but I think the best I have ever heard it put was by Lawrence Lessig in his book, Free Culture .
Also, because it must be said, "You must be new here."
...And only a really really dumb asshole blames the company who made possible the selling of empty clips and a holster for killing people.
...and it's the hammer of justice...
Although I do agree with you on everything in your last post (except the free will thing, but my opinions on that are complicated), I do have to point out that we don't know how Obama would have voted on the Patriot Act, since he has never been a member of congress, so your prerequisite doesn't apply to him.
Any suggestions as to who those non-status quo candidates are?
I'm being serious (and only mildly sarcastic). Even with this scandal, Obama still seems (to me) to be the furthest from the copy-paste politicians who are the only other (viable) options, and the best choice.
Something like this?
Microsoft is committed to interoperability and transparency. The RIAA is committed to diversity in music. Haliburton is committed to creating American jobs. Lawrence Lessig is committed to increasing copyright terms. The FSF is committed to DRM. Karl Marx is committed to capitalism. George Bush is committed to getting out of the war. The NRA is committed to stricter gun control. The Pirate Bay is committed to eliminating file sharing. ect...
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cue 2 (kyoo) n. 1. A signal, such as a word or action, used to prompt another event in a performance, such as an actor's speech or entrance, a change in lighting, or a sound effect.
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from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cue
Sounds like a good trick for the ruskies to get us to pay for most of it then threaten to take back Alaska. Wow, you said that and my Risk instincts told me to start building up troops in Alaska...