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Own Your Own 128-Bit Integer

Byte Swapper writes "After all the fuss over the AACS trying to censor a certain 128-bit number that now has something over two million hits on Google, the folks at Freedom to Tinker would like to point out that you too can own your own integer. They've set up a script that will generate a random number, encrypt a copyrighted haiku with it, and then deed the number back to you. You won't get a copyright on the number or the haiku, but your number has become an illegal circumvention device under the DMCA, such that anyone subject to US law caught distributing it can be punished under the DMCA's anti-trafficking section, for which the DMCA's Safe Harbor provisions do not apply. So F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 is truly mine now, and you can pry it out of my cold, dead fingers!"

477 comments

  1. 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's right, 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA is mine, and I'll be playing it in the Impossiball Lottery twice a week until it pays off. No more Quick Picks for me!

    Remember kids, no one else out there can ever use 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA to play the lotto, to decrypt anything ... or even as a WPA (or WEP) key!

    I'll be googling 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA everyday until I win that lotto jackpot ... and don't think I won't. I'm crazy enough to do it. I swear I am. Really.

    1. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Blue+Stone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Personally, I thought it'd be pretty neat to encrypt something using the text of a DMCA takedown notice as a key.

      --
      Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
    2. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it might be far more troublesome if this were done with 16-bit or 32 bit numbers. You could take out whole swathes of numbers that way - make everyday computing impossible. It's a shame that pi and e are irrational, or it would be a good idea to hijack those. But there again, it might be fun to prevent anyone from using the number 0x4D6963726F736F6674 and sue anyone using that.

    3. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm holding out for the numbers 0 through F. Then I'll take down the lot of y'all.

    4. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by bakaorg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I got one of these yesterday, but really, who has time to remember such long numbers. However, I know that it had a "D2" in it, so I figure anytime I see a number which contains this unique fingerprint, I'll assume it is my number. Fortunately, no-one has violated my rights by posting a number with "D2" in it as a comment to this article yet. You all are warned!

    5. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by eWarz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually parent was funny, but he brought up an interesting point. How far can things go when a simple number can be made illegal under the DMCA? If i use a sequence of numbers for encryption and then those numbers show up on the lottery, is the lottery liable for a DMCA violation? Maybe someone should intentionally 'abuse' this system to force the DMCA to be corrected.

    6. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Someone should copyright all those keys, so that it would become impossible for the industry to change the actual key without infringing the law.

      That's quite a lot of keys, but it would be funny to see where it goes...

    7. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by sxltrex · · Score: 1

      That's right, 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA is mine

      Take that, number 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB C9!!

    8. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by AeroIllini · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why wouldn't you just use the text of the DMCA itself as the key? Then the government can't publish it!

      Pasting the text of this page into a word processor, I learn that it is 177,926 characters long, with spaces. That's a 1,423,408-bit key.

      Better get started.

      --
      For security, the MD5 hash of this message and sig is 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.
    9. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Sarisar · · Score: 3, Funny

      I used to live next door to a lady who was called Dee. Oddly enough, her mother was called Dee too!

      HAH! I'd like to see you search and find that text! Mwahahahahaha!

      Wait... does parent get a reply for this post? Oh shit.

      ctrl+a
      delete

      There, fixed it for me!

    10. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even better, make it illegal for anyone to write "Advanced Access Content System"!

      ----

      The ASCII string "Advanced Access Content System" can be represented as a sequence of bytes.
      Those bytes represent the integer:
      115575102057
      That number, in hex, is:
      1A E8 D0 1A 69
      That number, padded appropriately, is
      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1A E8 D0 1A 69

      Now I've used "00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1A E8 D0 1A 69" as a key. They must remove the name of their own product from all of their documentation and legal notices or else it constitutes a violation of my rights under the DMCA!

      If anyone wants to take up my case for me, feel free.

      --Darien Hager

    11. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by calebt3 · · Score: 1

      I googled it myself. No hits. Not even from Slashdot.

    12. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by SatireWolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would tell you what my secret integer is, but then you would know what it is. The secret to my success is the secret of my number. Use it, and PREPARE TO BE SERVED PAPERS SUCKAH! If you determine what my secret integer is, then it isn't a secret is it? So I'm assuming that the DMCA is supposed to give me some sort of super secret enemy of the state powers, whereby if you violate my number, you automatically become a terrorist, and thereby executed under the US patriot act for crimes against the state? By proxy, all those who have now read the secret number of the AACS overlords, are now terrorists and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the patriot act! PREPARE TO DIE TERRORISTS! Oh, well they could also export us all to Saudi Arabia for 'interrogation'. If I never post here again, you can assume I have been captured and forced to reveal my secret number. In the event of my capture, there is a time capsule locked in a.................

    13. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Zadaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the lottery commission is in violation, then you have trouble since they might well never publish your winning numbers.

      On the other hand I think you'd be able to successfully sue any other winners who shared the jackpot with you for their share since they used the winning lottery numbers without your permission.

      In fact I suspect, under DMCA, you could (legitimately) sue lottery players for winnings even if you didn't play, but merely if you had a previous claim on the numbers.

    14. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by StarvingSE · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry, this guy has prior art.... better luck next time.

      Oh, and don't try C3 either, that's taken too.

      --
      I got nothin'
    15. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      How about as my sig?

    16. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why limit yourself to that, you could have all sorts of fun using "the" as an encryption key

    17. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhh, 1.42799333 × 10^21 doesnt show up in any search documents.

    18. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Clete2 · · Score: 0

      81 73 32 1B 4F 9D 6E 39 A9 B7 60 B8 8F 8C B9 8D is MINE! If you use my number, I'll sue you! Er yeah...

    19. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Kardall · · Score: 1

      So when it comes up in google cause they cached your post... will you sue /. or google?

    20. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by cgenman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why encrypt? US courts ruled in the Adobe case that Rot13 was a form of copy protection. Just do a diff between the "protected" text and the DMCA, and you're all set.

    21. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, that wouldn't work. Someone will declare the DMCA itself to be a copyright protection measure and then trying to circumvent it by abusing the system will be deemed illegal.

    22. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by einhverfr · · Score: 1

      Did that case ever come to trial? Did appeals courts ever make a ruling as to whether disclosing that something was ROT-13 encrypted meant violating the DMCA?

      If so, can I have the docket number please?

      --

      LedgerSMB: Open source Accounting/ERP
    23. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Gerzel · · Score: 1

      No it doesn't apply to you or anyone on slashdot. You see a human must be legally recognized as a person by the DMCA/RIAA/**AA. You have to have money enough to buy the law in order to be a person, otherwise you are a potential criminal who needs to pay fees to prove your innocence.

    24. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - This is mine. Now everytime someone uses this number, he has to pay me 1 dollar as royalty.

    25. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by 8ball629 · · Score: 1

      Hey... that's been my WPA key for 6 months now - prior art, right?

    26. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Following that line of thought, why don't you use the names of every member of congress who voted for the DMCA so that they cannot be printed on the next ballot?

    27. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by CrazedWalrus · · Score: 5, Funny

      US courts ruled in the Adobe case that Rot13 was a form of copy protection.


      Oddly enough, I believe it can then be argued that ROT-26 is also an encryption device:

      1. Rot-13 is an encryption device, assuming your comment is correct.
      2. ROT-13 is a simple substitution cypher. Decryption is defined as subtracting 13 characters, wrapping at A, where ROT13 encryption is defined as adding 13 characters, wrapping at Z.
      3. By extension, any substitution cypher is a DMCA-approved cypher.
      4. ROT-1..infinity follow the same algorithm as ROT-13. They simply aren't symmetrical in the way that ROT-13 happens to be (re-encryption leads to plaintext). The symmetry of ROT-13 is purely coincidental due to the fact that 13 is 1/2 of 26. It is not necessarily an intended function of the cypher. This phenomenon will also exhibit periodically in ROT-26, ROT-39, ROT-52, and all later ROT-type algorithms with a key which is a multiple of 13.
      5. ROT-26 is included in the set of ROT-1 through ROT-infinity. Coincidentally, it also exhibits the quirk of symmetry, where re-encryption reveals the plaintext.

      Q.E.D. - ROT-26 is an approved DMCA cypher, and can be used to protect copyrighted materials.

      This post is copyrighted material which has been encrypted using ROT-26. By reading it, you have circumvented my copy protection device. Please cease and desist immediately.
    28. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Chris+Kamel · · Score: 1

      How about (5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB C9 + 1)?

      --
      The following statement is true
      The preceding statement is false
    29. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      (Responding to this thread because I want to get this down quick and go back to studying, and you have the number in your sig making you a good candidate...)

      I absolutely love the cultural phenomenon that this simple 128-bit number (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0) has sparked - everything from Digg to Slashdot to the blogs, it's all just too beautiful. This number (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0) is truly a piece of internet history, being both a geek meme and a piece of political commentary. I'm slightly worried though that this kind of thing might dilute its impact by flooding us with a bunch of other irrelevant 128-bit impostors, but that fear seems irrational.

      --
      Evidently, the key to understanding recursion is to begin by understanding recursion. The rest is easy.
    30. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Ernesto+Alvarez · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Shame on you!
      Your logic is flawed.

      1. Rot-13 is an encryption device, assuming your comment is correct.
      2. ROT-13 is a simple substitution cypher. Decryption is defined as subtracting 13 characters, wrapping at A, where ROT13 encryption is defined as adding 13 characters, wrapping at Z.
      3. By extension, any substitution cypher is a DMCA-approved cypher.


      The fact that a member of a class has a certain property (ROT-13 being a DMCA approved encryption device) does not mean that all the members of that class have the same property. I am a member of the animals' group, I can use a computer therefore all animals can use a computer..... I don't think so.

      Nobody said that ROT-14 would be considered an encryption device by the DMCA.

      Your best chance to prove ROT-26 is a DMCA approved encryption method would be to read the legalese and find the definition of "encrpytion" in the text and hope it is not a very good definition. Something like "a function INTENDED to prevent observation by an untrusted party" would be enough, especially if they do not mention keys. In that case, it doesn't have to work successfully to be an "encryption device".

      If that is the case, I propose the identity function as the new DRM standard.

      C0 88 56 63 C5 56 41 D8 5B E3 74 9D 02 11 F9 09 to everyone, and remember, Intel CPUs are little endian!
    31. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Tatarize · · Score: 1

      Hm.

      So, if I encrypt my statement "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog."

      Wkh txlfn eurzq ira mxpsv ryhu wkh odcb grj.

      Now I can send takedown notices to everybody who uses the number 3. Sesame street... expect my letters of death really soon. Your number can be used to decode my text and ruin my protection.

      Check this out too...

      wii rzreq gutew mxa lxuty qbiu wph nhid dqo.

      Now, I can send takedown notices to everybody who posts pi. I assume that the DMCA covers any partial decoding ability. And, assuming that pi is a normal number (which is almost certainly true), I can send a takedown notice to ANYBODY who posts ANY number. In fact, I should post a take down notice to every page of the internet because frankly if you look at the ascii text as base-256 all these bastards are posting partial copies of my decryption key everywhere. Every little chunk of text is really just a base-256 method of posting a work around to MY protection method!

      --

      It is no longer uncommon to be uncommon.
    32. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Cheapy · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know, since "Please cease and desist immediately" was the last thing in your post, it's kinda hard not to follow those orders.

      --
      Would you kindly mod me +1 insightful?
    33. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by FMota91 · · Score: 0

      I'm writing this comment, which is copyrighted, and then I'm going to encrypt it using the key 3 in some non-public encryption method. Then I'm going to distribute it around the world, and ask that people send me 3 cents to read it. Then I'm going to sue slashdot, for having the key on their website, and ask for $3 in damages (of all the people who would've paid to read this comment). Then I'm going to sue my lawyers for writing the number 3 down, when talking about settlement with slashdot, asking for $3 in psychological damages. Then I'm going to sue the new lawyers I just got to sue my older lawyers, for using the number 3 too. Lather, rinse, repeat. Slowly, little by little, I'll bring the world of law to a halt. Then we can finally get on and stop worrying about petty things like who owns this number, or who owns what method of traversing linked lists...

      --
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1 bottles of beer on the wall. Take one down, pass it round... Oh, umm...
    34. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by vagabond_gr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, this guy has prior art.... better luck next time.

      Yes, but his copyright was registered a long time ago so it has expired. Let alone the fact that it was in a galaxy far, far away so earth law do not apply. However he could sue under the trade federation law.

    35. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by KinkyClown · · Score: 1

      Cool! I also got my own number now, but I didn't know that 503 was a 128 bit integer.

    36. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As another poster remarked, your logic is flawed. The proper argument goes thus:

      ROT-13 is an approved DMCA cipher.
      ROT-26 is twice applying ROT-13 (like Triple-DES is three times applying DES). Therefore, ROT-26 also has to be an approved DMCA cipher.

      And then your last paragraph does follow.

    37. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by wan-fu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Google seriously overestimates the number of results it returns.

      For example, on page 1:
      Results 1 - 10 of about 417,000 for 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA

      But clicking to the end:
      Results 471 - 473 of 473 for 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA

      This isn't as obvious in other queries when the engine won't let you go past 1000 results, but in queries such as this, it's very telling.
    38. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by rastos1 · · Score: 1
      Look. I know you were first to get it, but I have a great business idea with perfect ROI. All I need is the number - that you own. So ... how much do you want for your "5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA" ?

      /me opens the wallet

    39. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you checked to see if it has been used here?

    40. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      IMHO, as as much as I hate the DMCA and all the crap related, I think even a moderately stupid judge would see a difference between displaying a number while claiming it is the key to some copy-protection algorithm and displaying a number claiming it is nothing more than a number that serves a purpose that is unrelated to any copy-protection stuff.

      Don't you think?

    41. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steven Goodwin has already copyrighted zero, I'm afraid!

    42. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't you just use the text of the DMCA itself as the key? Then the government can't publish it! The no-fly list mess proved us that since the patriot act, unpublished laws can be enforced by the government. So the use of a takedown notice (or just an essential part of it) makes for a very insightful choice.
      --
      The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
    43. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your argument is specious. You cannot copyright a trademark owned by someone else.

      I have a different problem. I was trying to seek copyright protection for MY two numbers. I had my lawyer do the standard due diligence routine for numbers- you know, the sum, product, quotient, difference, all that stuff. I don't want a third party coming in and laying claim to my numbers.

      So anyway I'm talking to him today, and he starts off with, "well, the good news is, the product, modulo, difference, and quotient all worked out...", and I'm like, whaaa... wait a minute, the good news? What do you mean? And so he says, "well, when you add these two numbers, you end up with this other number that happens to be someone else's property." And I'm like, no way, that sucks! Who? "And," he adds, "if you OR them you get the same thing, and if you XOR them you get the same thing! So that could count as three infringing acts right there."

      "But AND was OK?"

      "AND is zero, so you're OK with AND."

      "What about greatest common denominator?"

      "I spoke to them; they were quite reasonable and willing to work something out."

      "So it's just the sum/OR/XOR people then?"

      "Yeah, basically just them."

      Now you can't let yourself get pushed around by corporations like this. They want to control as many numbers as they can, the hell with the rest of us. If you aren't pushy about protecting your number these days you won't know when your number's up. They can bust a man for using his own two damn numbers if they can be converted into one of their numbers in any way. And once a corporation gets a hold of a number, it effectively seizes control of the number multiplied by two, by four, by eight, by sixteen... an infinite amount of numbers are disappearing into the hands of private corporations. We'll all be facing retirement and a number line with no free numbers left until you get to primes with thousands of digits. It isn't right. So I thought about it and called him back, and said, let's stand up to these bastards.

      Anyway, to make a long story short, after a long round of mediation and arbitration I got to keep 09-09-01-02-0d-04-03-0b-08-01-06-05-03-06-08-00, but they got to keep 00-f0-10-00-90-70-e0-50-d0-40-50-c0-60-50-80-c0. Figures I got stuck with the one further away from zero.

    44. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by GeneJoker · · Score: 1

      1) rot13 is valid. 2) Double encryption is better than single encryption. 3) Therefore, rot13(rot13) is not only valid, but superior. 4) rot13(rot13) is equivalent to rot26. 5) rot26 is valid, and also more secure than rot13.

    45. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      I am a member of the animals' group, I can use a computer therefore all animals can use a computer..... I don't think so. So, you are a member of The Animals group? Wow, nice to finally meet you, I'm a big fan of yours! However, to be able to use computers is too much to demand from someone your age.
    46. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try clicking on the "we have ommitted" button. You'll find your missing results.

    47. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Gregb05 · · Score: 0

      What about "Microsoft"?

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    48. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the DMCA states assumption two, then yes, that would probably be your best bet. If it doesn't, however, the argument is flawed.

    49. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by 19061969 · · Score: 1

      Are you sure you don't mean 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0?

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      bang goes my karma... again...
    50. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by stderr_dk · · Score: 1

      It is if you write it as 119 zeros followed by 1 1111 0111.

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      alias sudo="echo make it yourself #" ; # https://pipedot.org/~stderr & http://soylentnews.org/~stderr
    51. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by foxtrot · · Score: 1

      Your best chance to prove ROT-26 is a DMCA approved encryption method would be to read the legalese and find the definition of "encrpytion" in the text and hope it is not a very good definition. Something like "a function INTENDED to prevent observation by an untrusted party" would be enough, especially if they do not mention keys. In that case, it doesn't have to work successfully to be an "encryption device".

      I dunno. If ROT-13 counts, seems to me it'd be easier to claim that the text was _doubly encrypted_ for maximum security.

      -F

    52. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Gospodin · · Score: 1

      But if the lottery picks that number and publishes it, isn't that a violation of your copyright? I suppose you could sue for an amount equal to what your lottery winnings would have been, but it seems like a lot less trouble just to collect the jackpot.

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      ...following the principles of Heisenburger's Uncertain Cat...
    53. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      The ASCII string "Advanced Access Content System" can be represented as a sequence of bytes.
      Those bytes represent the integer:
      115575102057
      I don't know your method of calculation, but I am wondering why my method of estimation is not correct. In ASCII, each letter of the alphabet is represented by a value greater than or equal to 0x41. Space is greater than 1. There are 27 characters, excluding spaces, in "Advanced..." Therefore, we know
      (0x41)^27 < int("Advanced Access Content System")
      8.885e48 < ...

      8.885e48 is astronomically larger than the value you've given. Note that any value not preceded by "0x" in my calculation is decimal, not hex.

      Also, just by observation, a 30-character string of ASCII text with no NULLs (including the spaces) represented in hex is at least the value

      0x1,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,0 1,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01

      Again, astronomically larger than what you gave.

      Now, what I'd like to do is calculate the Unicode value of the text!
    54. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by zero_offset · · Score: 1



      Very nice.

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    55. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Actually, my 128-bit number is 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01, since your number is derivative of mine, I deem your number to have violated my original copyright and claim ownership of your number, too.

      Layne

    56. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by jonastullus · · Score: 1

      well, but nobody said anything about encrypting information twice. if ROT-13 is a DMCA approved encryption algorithm, then encrypting your encrypted content should be well within your possibilities.

      this text was encrypted twice (for added security) with ROT-13. by somehow gaining access to the plain text of this message you have twice circumvented a DMCA approved encryption method and are hereby ordered to cease and desist.

    57. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by kalirion · · Score: 1

      In fact I suspect, under DMCA, you could (legitimately) sue lottery players for winnings even if you didn't play, but merely if you had a previous claim on the numbers.

      So all you have to do is own every single possible lottery number, and you can sue any jackpot winner for all the money? Cool!

    58. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by boxbright · · Score: 1

      You have 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA? Thats so cool! I Have 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CB! We're key buddies!

      --
      BoxBright Software - Free, safe, simple software.
    59. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by n9891q · · Score: 1
      I have a simpler proof that I have noted in the margin.
      1. Encrypt the message using ROT-13 to produce message prime.
      2. For added safety, encrypt message prime with ROT-13 to produce message double-prime.
        Message double-prime is clearly [sic] encrypted because it has had encryption method ROT-13 applied twice.
      3. Sue.

      Regards,
      n9891q, the wings of NAN

    60. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by t14m4t · · Score: 1

      ROT-26 is DMCA approved... again, assuming the "ROT-13 is DMCA-approved" comment is correct. ROT-26 is application of the ROT-13 algorithm... It's just applied twice. Using the same logic, any ROT-x algorithm (where x is any positive integer multiplied by 13) is DMCA-approved.

      weylin

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    61. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by bidule · · Score: 1

      Oddly enough, I believe it can then be argued that ROT-26 is also an encryption device:


      Yep, rot-26 is an encryption device. But the encrypted stream itself is readable. (Gee, what a surprise! Talk about 1000's monkeys and typewriters.)

      While it is illegal to decrypt it by applying rot-26 to the stream, it is perfectly legal to read the encrypted text as is.

      tuB fi uoy dnatsrednu siht, uoy era gnikaerb ACMD.

      --
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    62. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by Spaceman40 · · Score: 1

      Where's the moderation for +1, Awesome?

      --
      I [may] disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
    63. Re:5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA by wboelen · · Score: 1

      Trying to disprove a joke. Only on slashdot :)

  2. 3F 42 2D 7C AA 69 FA EA 86 DC ED 48 95 F6 8E F0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is my number... I wonder if its also an AACS key by coincidence :)

  3. ok then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll see your F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 and raise you a F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663D184

    1. Re:ok then by babyrat · · Score: 1

      That's a string bet - the end result is you are calling F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088. Always announce your intent to raise first.

  4. Eat it! by Corpuscavernosa · · Score: 5, Funny
    5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA

    Ha! You'll never catch me coppahs!

    --
    We figured out a long time ago that it's easier to elect seven judges than to elect 132 legislators.
    1. Re:Eat it! by nattt · · Score: 4, Funny

      50 AE 9B C2 10 05 0E 52 EB EA 82 B8 FB E7 30 6A

      Don't you just love it!

      --
      -- oldthinkers unbellyfeel ingsoc
    2. Re:Eat it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Corpuscavernosa.

      We represent WrongSizeGlass Freedom-To-Tinker Content System Licensing Administrator, WCS LA. WFCS is an integrated set of technological protection measures that controls access to and prevents unauthorized copying of copyrighted Haikus.

      It is our understanding that you are providing to the public the above-identified tools and services, and are thereby providing and offering to the public a technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof that is primarily designed, produced, or marketed for the purpose of circumventing the technological protection measures afforded by WFCS (hereafter, the "circumvention offering"). Doing so constitutes a violation of the anti-circumvention provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (the "DMCA"), 17 U.S.C. 1201(a)(2) and 1201(b)(1). Providing or offering the circumvention offering identified above, and any other such offering that is primarily designed or produced to circumvent protection measures, or which has only limited commercial significant purpose other than to circumvent, or which are offered to the public with knowledge that it is for use in circumventing, violates the rights of WCS and any others harmed as well. See 1201(a)(2), 1201(b)(1), and 1203.

      In view of the foregoing apparent anti-circumvention violations, we demand that you immediately:

      1) remove or cause to be removed the above-specified WFCS circumvention offering and any other circumvention offering which is designed, produced or provided to circumvent WFCS or to assist others in doing so, and/or any links directly thereto, and

      2) refrain from posting or causing to be provided any WFCS circumvention offering or from assisting others in doing so, including by direct links thereto, on any website now or at any time in the future.

      Failure to do so will subject you to legal liability.

      Please confirm to the undersigned in writing no later than noon a week from the above-indicated date that you have complied with these demands. You may reach the undersigned by telephone at [private] or by email at [private]@proskauer.com. WCS LA reserves all further rights and remedies with respect to this matter.

      Very truly yours,

      [private]
      Counsel for WFCS LA

    3. Re:Eat it! by nbritton · · Score: 4, Funny

      Give that I've run this script on a quantum computer, all your base are belong to me!

      Please send royalty payments to:
      128 Infinite Alley.
      Fort Meade, MD 20755

      Thanks!

    4. Re:Eat it! by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean "All your base 16 are belong to me," don't you?

    5. Re:Eat it! by Ellidi+T · · Score: 0

      I hereby state copyright over the number 666.
      So from now on, whenever anyone anywhere sells his soul to the devil, I get a fat percentage check.

      And I'm not worried about getting into heaven, in case you wondered.

      --
      Ellidi
    6. Re:Eat it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody has too much time on their hands.

    7. Re:Eat it! by Homr+Zodyssey · · Score: 1

      This article is not about copyrighting a number. U.S. Courts have already ruled that you cannot copyright a number. Thats why Intel switched to "Pentium" instead of "586".

      This is about using the DMCA to censor a number because that number is a copy-protection circumvention device.

      So, unfortunately you can't copyright "666". Besides, I'm pretty sure there's prior art -- like that Damien kid, who had it tattooed on his head.

    8. Re:Eat it! by Novus · · Score: 1

      This article is not about copyrighting a number. U.S. Courts have already ruled that you cannot copyright a number. Thats why Intel switched to "Pentium" instead of "586".
      You can't copyright a name, either. However, you can register it as a trademark.
  5. Re: 3F 42 2D 7C AA 69 FA EA 86 DC ED 48 95 F6 8E F by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is my number... I wonder if its also an AACS key by coincidence :)

    Mine's 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0. I wonder ... oh. Well, that was unlucky!
    --
    Tedious Bloggy Stuff - hooray?
  6. Prime numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought the DMCA restrictions only applied to prime numbers like those that can be used for encryption?

    1. Re:Prime numbers by afaik_ianal · · Score: 2, Informative

      No. Most encryption is done with ordinary private (random) keys. The keys are often securely exchanged with public key cryptography (the one with the prime keys), but you gain little from using prime numbers to do your bulk encryption, at a considerable computational cost.

      DMCA prevents circumventing copy-protection techniques. It covers the private keys, which are usually just really long random integers.

  7. We WILL see about that Krabs !!! by unity100 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "So F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 is truly mine now, and you can pry it out of my cold, dead fingers!"

    sooooooooo, it has come to this !!!!!

  8. Interference by smiltee · · Score: 1

    I think this will actually confuse people that are seeking the real key. Now everyone will see random 32 bits integer anywhere. But it's funny as hell too - even if script seems down.

    --
    Blame Canada!
    1. Re:Interference by Reverend528 · · Score: 5, Funny

      even if script seems down.
      it worked fine for me. My number is 503.
    2. Re:Interference by beemishboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's strange... for some reason my number is 404...

    3. Re:Interference by guaigean · · Score: 2

      This is probably the perfect dream of the *IAA. By diluting access to the real key, it will make it more difficult to locate. They didn't have to do a thing. We did it to ourselves.

      --
      Microsoft Sucks, F/OSS Rocks. I get mod points now right?
    4. Re:Interference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And tomorrow the number will be 301 ... The page has moved.

  9. Re: 3F 42 2D 7C AA 69 FA EA 86 DC ED 48 95 F6 8E F by grazzy · · Score: 1

    Im burning dvds with " F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 " to the highest bidders. Shipping not included.

    Please sue me for copyright infringment slashdot!

  10. So I wonder... by DaveWick79 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I use your number (F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088) in this reply, I guess slashdot will have to remove my comment if you file a complaint with the DMCA. Go ahead and try it, I'd like to see what happens with my posting of your number F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088. There I said it again! Ha!

  11. Why stop there by HaeMaker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why not create a system where ANY 128bit number can decrypt the haiku. Then you can go after anyone distributing any 128bit number. Say, like using IPv6.

    1. Re:Why stop there by Kircle · · Score: 1

      Why not create a system where ANY 128bit number can decrypt the haiku.

      Then it won't be called encryption. Duh :-)

      --

      -- Kircle

    2. Re:Why stop there by fishbowl · · Score: 1


      >Then it won't be called encryption. Duh :-)

      It would be slightly interesting if you could make a coding scheme where any 128 bit number can decrypt, but also could prove that no other number would work.

      --
      -fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
    3. Re:Why stop there by malsdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The DMCA never states that it is illegal to distribute any number, it states that it is illegal to distribute a number which has the sole/main/intended/implied/whatever-else purpose of breaking a copyright measure.

      If you had encrypted your haiku with any 128bit number then it would most probably be deemed that someone with a 128bit IP address was using your number by co-incidence. If however your 128-bit haiku encryption number appeared on a "how to decrypt encrypted haikus" website, then you would have a case however.

    4. Re:Why stop there by HaeMaker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There have been DMCA takedown notices for XOR protection schemes, and even changing one bit, which is simpler than my scheme. Even ROT13 is more complex.

      DMCA says circumvention of protection schemes, not encryption schemes.

    5. Re:Why stop there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you had encrypted your haiku with any 128bit number then it would most probably be deemed that someone with a 128bit IP address was using your number by co-incidence So, my desire to have: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 as an IPV6 address is just fine.
    6. Re:Why stop there by malsdavis · · Score: 1

      If it was obvious you choose it at random (of which the chance is something like 1 in 3 x 10^38) or because of a reason other than its relation to the AACS HD-DVD encryption system, yes. Otherwise, no.

    7. Re:Why stop there by terrymr · · Score: 1

      I don't believe the DMCA actually prohbits the distribution on encryption keys - but rather the device necessary to use that key to decrypt the data.

    8. Re:Why stop there by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      Slightly?
      That's the fscking understatement of the universe.
      To make a collision scheme that allows you to mathematically prove that only the "key" number would work, but that *any* 128bit number would work would be pure genius (and I think impossible).
      -nB

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    9. Re:Why stop there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if he choose it by "the 128 bit number that would piss the most lawyers off if I use it in public?" Or "the 128 bit number that has the most unique hit on google?"

      What if he wanted "a random 128 bit prime number with a 0 appended to the start and finish that also ends in his birthday?" (Or some other number important to him. Odds are there is one that qualifies). Then you'd have considerably fewer choices, and it might not seem unreasonable that he choose this one. No, I'm afraid that if someone *did* choose this randomly they'd still be sued just as much as the guy who claims to have chosen it randomly. What this is saying is that the hex key is no longer a valid result of "a random 128 bit number" because absolutely nobody will believe it was random. This may be the reason people have an issue with it.

    10. Re:Why stop there by Kaetemi · · Score: 1

      Just use the bitlength of your 128 bit number ;)

      --
      Kaetemi
    11. Re:Why stop there by malsdavis · · Score: 1

      If you had documented the process by which a random number generator had thrown up that number completely by chance and not in pursuit of the AACS encryption key then I think you would be OK.

      It is a purely hypothetical question though because even if every single person on earth ran a random number generator the chances of the AACS encryption key coming up would be like 1 in 10^28 or so. which is why no court would believe you. If say the AACS encyption key was "6" out of a possible number system 1 - 9, and IP addresses were also 1 digit long, then I reckon you would probably get away with it though.

      BTW: anyone can "sue" anyone for any reason, it doesn't mean squat. The crux is whether the case wins in court or not.

    12. Re:Why stop there by Kaetemi · · Score: 1
      Here you go, (it's in C#):

      static void DecryptHaiku(byte[] key)
      {
      // Put encrypted haiku in byte array.
      byte[] haiku = new byte[] { 0x47, 0x75, 0x30, 0x7F, 0x67, 0x7E, 0x30, 0x79, 0x7E, 0x64, 0x75, 0x77, 0x75, 0x62, 0x63, 0x3C, 0x1A, 0x43, 0x71, 0x69, 0x63, 0x30, 0x51, 0x51, 0x53, 0x43, 0x30, 0x5C, 0x51, 0x3E, 0x1A, 0x49, 0x7F, 0x65, 0x30, 0x73, 0x71, 0x7E, 0x30, 0x7F, 0x67, 0x7E, 0x30, 0x7F, 0x7E, 0x75, 0x30, 0x64, 0x7F, 0x7F, 0x3E };
      // Do some magic here.
      byte k = (byte)key.Length;
      // And use the secret formula.
      for (int i = 0; i < haiku.Length; i++) haiku[i] ^= k;
      // Display the result.
      Console.WriteLine(Encoding.ASCII.GetString(haiku)) ;
      }
      --
      Kaetemi
    13. Re:Why stop there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or, encrypt your files with the key, and when the government tries to decrypt your files, you could say there using a circumnavigation device.

    14. Re:Why stop there by servognome · · Score: 1

      Thanks to copyright law, you need to add 20 pages of legalese to actually allow anybody else to use the code.

      --
      D6 63 0D 70 89 81 BB 8E 7B 7C 5F 5D 54 EA AB 73
    15. Re:Why stop there by zeath · · Score: 1

      Your trafficking of my ROT key violates my DMCA-protected copyrights. Please accept this as a takedown notice.

    16. Re:Why stop there by alx5000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      int decrypt (char *supposedkey) {

      return (strlen(supposedkey)==16);

      }

      Mmmm... any 128 bit alphanumeric key can decrypt this... others won't work... for better fun, add a 0-9,a-f checker... can't be bothered now...

      --
      My 0.02 cents
    17. Re:Why stop there by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 1

      The DMCA prohibits distributing "any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof ... primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work." The key is presumably a component or a part of a device to circumvent AACS encryption.

      Uuuunfortunately for everyone touting that they now have their own, DMCA-protected numbers, those randomly generated keys could not honestly be said to "effectively control access" to anything when the plain text of the encrypted haiku is available to anyone and everyone.

    18. Re:Why stop there by Anpheus · · Score: 1

      Ah, I've come up with exactly the solution. It's the rot13 function with an added parameter, a "key" that must be a natural number. rot13 is then run exactly that many times, twice, and then once more. Since I now own all of the natural numbers, I'll be expecting some royalties for every bit of data in the universe.

    19. Re:Why stop there by tubapro12 · · Score: 1
      If that was how it worked I would claim 0x717c7c697f6562727163757162 for my program (C++):

      #include

      int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
      char myhaiku[16] = {0x71,0x7c,0x7c,0x69,0x7f,0x65,0x62,0x72,0x71,0x63 ,0x75,0x71,0x62,0x75,0x71,0x62};
      char k = 16; // the answer to his magic
      for (int i = 0 ; i for (int i = 0; i std::cin.get();
      return EXIT_SUCCESS;
      }
      and this obfuscation is thanks to a one byte key...
    20. Re:Why stop there by tubapro12 · · Score: 1

      pffft it ate my :(

    21. Re:Why stop there by tubapro12 · · Score: 1
      omg i'm too tired for combining html and C++... lol but i won't let html defeat my beautiful c++! lol

      #include <iostream>

      int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
      char myhaiku[16] = {0x71,0x7c,0x7c,0x69,0x7f,0x65,0x62,0x72,0x71,0x63 ,0x75,0x71,0x62,0x75,0x71,0x62};
      char k = 16;
      for (int i = 0 ; i < 15; i++) myhaiku[i] ^= k;
      for (int i = 0; i < 14; i++) std::cout << myhaiku[i];
      std::cin.get();
      return EXIT_SUCCESS;
      }
      preview is there for a reason apparently?
    22. Re:Why stop there by Scamwise · · Score: 1

      No DVD DRM scheme yet has managed to "effectively control access" to anything otherwise they wouldn't need a new scheme.

      --
      Sam "to lazy to register" Look
    23. Re:Why stop there by Kaetemi · · Score: 1

      <ecode> is too.
      --
      Kaetemi
    24. Re:Why stop there by Kaetemi · · Score: 1

      Well, I think you can use it (since I gave you a copy). You just can't make a copy of it... ... Which basically means that you can't compile it or anything. :)

      --
      Kaetemi
    25. Re:Why stop there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      If it was obvious you choose it at random (of which the chance is something like 1 in 3 x 10^38) or because of a reason other than its relation to the AACS HD-DVD encryption system, yes. Otherwise, no.


      The chance of ANY particular number is something like 1 in 3 x 10^38. My selecting 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 at random is EXACTLY as likely as my selecting 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 at random.

      What is this AACS key that you speak of?

  12. Re:We WILL see about that Krabs !!! by dattaway · · Score: 1

    I should go for the Powerball lottery too. What are the chances the key will turn out to be 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0?

    One in 13256278887989457651018865901401704640? Who's infringing who?

  13. Re:Typical of liberals... by thryllkill · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Making fun of the RIAA and the DMCA to justify pirating music. You are all criminals."

    Isn't it great?!?!?!?!?!

    --

    Note to self: No more arguing with the faithful.

  14. The answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm going to go register "42".

    Then I will own the answer to life, the universe, and everything.

    1. Re:The answer by MadJo · · Score: 1

      I claim prior art.
      I used to live at number 42...

    2. Re:The answer by just_another_sean · · Score: 1

      42!

      ...he shouted, fleeing in mad glee.

      42!

      --
      Creationist Textbook Stickers Declared Unconstitutional by CowboyNeal
    3. Re:The answer by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1

      actualy... it would have to be 42000000000000000000000000000000 OR 00000000000000000000000000000042

    4. Re:The answer by LordEd · · Score: 1

      42!
      = 14050061177528798985431426062445115699363840000000 00
      = 03 c1 58 1d 49 1b 28 f5 23 c2 3a bd f3 5b 68 9c 90 80 00 00 00 00)

      (as per here)

  15. I am not a number! by SirBruce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am a free man!

    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered.

    My life is my own.

    1. Re:I am not a number! by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, your post does not fit the 5-7-5 haiku format. Close though!

    2. Re:I am not a number! by iknowcss · · Score: 5, Funny

      SirBruce (679714)

      Umm ...

      --
      Life is rarely fair. Cherish the moments when there is a right answer.
    3. Re:I am not a number! by cyphercell · · Score: 1

      Man I am free!

      I will not be indexed or numbered.

      Life is my own.

      F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088*

      *This number is mine though and you can't use it.

      --
      Under the influence of Post-Cyberpunk Gonzo Journalism
    4. Re:I am not a number! by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Really? Too late.

    5. Re:I am not a number! by Yobgod+Ababua · · Score: 1

      No, not a haiku...
      It's an excellent (and appropriate) quote however.
      Well, it's a conglomeration of two quotes from the same source, but close enough.

      http://imdb.com/title/tt0061287/quotes

    6. Re:I am not a number! by AlgorithMan · · Score: 1

      I am not a number
      yes you are! now sit down and shut up, 679714!
      ;-)
      --
      The MAFIAA is a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes
    7. Re:I am not a number! by dosboot · · Score: 1

      For god's sakes man, at least put some pants on if you refuse to be briefed!

    8. Re:I am not a number! by cecil_turtle · · Score: 1
      It's 5-7-5 syllables, not words - the OP was closer than you. Here's my go:

      I am a free man!

      I won't be pushed, filed or stamped.

      My life is my own.
  16. ridiculous... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    There's no point in copyrighting these keys, they are way too many, actually there are exactly [CENSORED FOR COYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT] such keys.

    --
    \u262D = \u5350
  17. I release mine .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    EC4A5A090E3D4200F7CAE7C8FCC94B11 ... I've used it once. Now I don't like it. I'm throwing it away...

  18. Re:Typical of liberals... by ettlz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Making fun of the RIAA and the DMCA to justify pirating music. You are all criminals.
    Piss off, some of us are communists.
  19. You Fools! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This is just a ploy by The Man to mark you with one more identifying number.

    Don't be surprised when your own 32 integer appears on your REAL ID card!

  20. Kudos to Heavy Metal Jacket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    97 A5 9D EB B9 9C AD 48 5C 0F 61 3B 51 46 73 30

    This is my 128-bit integer. There are many like it but this one is mine. My 128-bit integer is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my 128-bit integer is useless. Without my 128-bit integer I am useless.

    --
    Above content protected under DMCA, DRM and AACS (as a trade secret) by Johnny F.
    --
    Oh, drat, I spilled the bean.

    1. Re:Kudos to Heavy Metal Jacket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That's FULL metal Jacket.

    2. Re:Kudos to Heavy Metal Jacket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually, you should cite the Marine Corps. The movie is just quoting part of their "Rifleman's Creed".

      http://www.usmcpress.com/heritage/marine_corps_rif leman's_creed.htm

    3. Re:Kudos to Heavy Metal Jacket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's fucked up.

    4. Re:Kudos to Heavy Metal Jacket by raehl · · Score: 1

      But what is your 128 bit integer's name?

    5. Re:Kudos to Heavy Metal Jacket by Chris+Kamel · · Score: 1

      Without me, my 128-bit integer is useless. Without my 128-bit integer I am useless.
      I think your 128 bit integer is useless with or without you.

      --
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      The preceding statement is false
    6. Re:Kudos to Heavy Metal Jacket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tonight, you men will sleep with your 128-bit integer. You will give your 128-bit integer a girl's name because this is the only pussy you people are going to get. Your days of finger-banging ol' Mary J. Rottencrotch through her pertty pink panties are over! You're married to this piece. This integer of one hundred and twenty eight bits. And you will be faithful.

  21. MINE by blhack · · Score: 5, Funny

    i hereby state copyright over the number 277, which is an expression of duality of the universe (heat/cold good/evil), and the fact all things, including 7, which is lucky,, are better in twos. Any expression of this piece of my work without my express written consent will be prosecuted to the full extent of any applicable laws.

    --UPDATE--

    I have noticed that some pirates have converted this note to a tone, they are calling it C sharp (277hz). My number is to be represented as a digit only, this is obviously an encryption circumvention technique and will not be tolerated. Please fork over 5 trillion dollars and your first born child.

    NOW!

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    1. Re:MINE by ozzee · · Score: 1

      Please fork over 5 trillion dollars and your first born child.

      Trust me on this, make them keep their first born, nuthin' but trubbel, I tell ya

    2. Re:MINE by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      and the fact all things, including 7, which is lucky,, are better in twos
      You must be the brain behind Microsoft's console name.

    3. Re:MINE by LordEd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dear Sir,

      I have reviewed your stated copyright on the number 277 and find that it conflicts with my copyright on the number 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01. It appears that you have simply violated my copyright 277 times to generate your stated number.

      I ask that you immediate cease usage of this number or acquire the appropriate licensing. You will need at least 277 licenses per instance. Licenses are currently $0.11 per 1 instance. You have 11 days to take action.

    4. Re:MINE by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

      You're too late. Microsoft already patented C#. You now owe them 10 trillion dollars and your firstborn child as well as any ill-gotten firstborn children you've extracted from others.

    5. Re:MINE by BigDumbAnimal · · Score: 1

      note to a tone, they are calling it C sharp (277hz) and

      Please fork over 5 trillion dollars... I hope that was intentional!
    6. Re:MINE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Now, if you have a web page, you can put all your sensitive information there and encrypt it with your key. To encrypt, use the following command:

      chmod 277 *
      No one will ever be able to crack that encryption!
    7. Re:MINE by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      I have noticed that some pirates have converted this note to a tone, they are calling it C sharp (277hz).

      Too late, dude -- they've already released a workaround that changes the period of C sharp to 278Hz. (D flat is 276Hz now, so you're SOL there too.)

  22. I call dibs... by msauve · · Score: 1

    ...on ROT13!

    Here's my key: 09 S9 11 02 9Q 74 R3 5O Q8 41 56 P5 63 56 88 P0

    --
    "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
    1. Re:I call dibs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I claim rot-26.

  23. I've got you surrounded. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's right, I'm claiming F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C087 and F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C089.

  24. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Being a criminal means infringing on someone's rights. Rights are defined as to determine how scarce resources are to be controlled. Information is not a scarce resource, by copying music from someone, I am not invading anyone's property, or if you prefer infringing on anyone's right.

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  25. 13256278887989457651018865901401704640 no no no by ozzee · · Score: 1

    13256278887989457651018865901401704640 is mine - don't touch it - I warn ya ! Nor do you touch 718624318471594843*2^64 + 15582831591453788352 which is also mine. Mine MINE MINE.

    In fact any arithmetic expression or part thereof that evaluates to 13256278887989457651018865901401704640 is mine too !!! - oh wait ...

    1. Re:13256278887989457651018865901401704640 no no no by Skapare · · Score: 1

      My sig can beat up your sig.

      --
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    2. Re:13256278887989457651018865901401704640 no no no by ozzee · · Score: 1

      How dare you pi me !

  26. I claim the number 3 by dfsmith · · Score: 2, Funny

    If anyone uses the number 3, I will send them a DMCA takedown notice for infringing on this encoded copyrighted work of literature.

    Dfwxdoob L fdq'w uhdoob eh erwkhuhg wr vhqg dqb wdnhgrzq qrwlfhv. Dqg lw'v xqolnhob wkdw wklv vkruw ri d zrun fdq eh frsbuljkwhg, exw li brx fdq uhdg wklv, wkhq brx'yh frpplwhg wkh dfw ri flufxpyhqwlrq dqbzdb. (F) Gdqlho I. Vplwk, 2007

    1. Re:I claim the number 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno, I think somebody already has actually...

    2. Re:I claim the number 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misspelled frpplwwhg Dan.

    3. Re:I claim the number 3 by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      Umm, well, ah, it's a deliberate misprint to PROVE instances of copyright violation. Bwahaha! Now which drawer did I leave my lawyer in....

  27. So everyone has one now... by mikee805 · · Score: 1

    Right!

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    B5 71 ED FB 55 D6 4E 68 07 25 E2 FA CA 93 F0 2F, is mine! All mine!
  28. My key... by basic0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here's my copyrighted key:

    "Service Temporarily Unavailable
    The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later."

    I'm worried that someone will try to claim prior art though... :S

    1. Re:My key... by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

      Hey, that is my key. Under the DMCA I request that the slashdot editors remove the above post!

      --
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    2. Re:My key... by Skapare · · Score: 1

      "Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later."

      I'm worried that someone will try to claim prior art though... :S

      Nah ... slashdot effect ... they just ran out of numbers :-)

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  29. Tagged... by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

    hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

    Oh, and this seems to be slashdotted. :(

    1. Re:Tagged... by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      Not quite. It did cough up 503, which is 79.7216699801193% better that 401. So I got that goin' for me.
      Anywayze, I already had me a fat numbah in mah .sig, so I'll stick with that.

      --
      Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    2. Re:Tagged... by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      Uh...(1-0.797216699801193)%

      --
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  30. 96 51 0F ED DF EC 61 18 D5 19 7E E9 74 48 72 D8 by Glothar · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's mine! Stay away!

    Microsoft is Good!
    NetBSD is slow!
    OpenSource licensing is for idealistic hippies!

    Hmm... Let's see now:

    1. Make inflammatory statements.
    2. ???
    3. Profit!!

    It seems like the infamous "Step 2" is "Trick slashdotters into including a DMCA DRM Circumvention Scheme in the Subject of their replies.

    Excellent...

  31. You are number 6... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...79714.

    Only Anonymous Coward is not a number.

    Who is number 1?

    1. Re:You are number 6... by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
      Who is number 1?


      There are two answers:
      "You, are number 6."
      and:
      "You are, number 6."

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    2. Re:You are number 6... by Trumpet+of+Doom · · Score: 1

      CmdrTaco has UID 1, since you asked.

  32. Which integer? by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of the basic properties of copyright is that if you enclose it in quotes and attribute the source, like "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0", then there's no problem. This quoted integer is the public key for HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players.

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    Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
    1. Re:Which integer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's not copyrighted, it's just used to protect content and can't be shared because of DMCA.

  33. de ad be ef fa ce fa de by king-manic · · Score: 1, Redundant

    This is my 128-bit key.
    There are many like it, but this one is MINE.
    My 128-bit key is my best friend. It is my life.
    I must master it as I must master my life.
    My 128-bit key without me is useless. Without my 128-bit key, I am useless.
    I must use my 128-bit key true.
    I must encrypt better than my enemy who is trying to pwn my network.
    I must root him before he roots me. I will...
    My 128-bit key and myself know that what counts in war is not the physical layer,
    the data link layer, nor the network layer.
    We know it is the crypt that count. We will crypt...
    My 128-bit key is human, even as I, because it is my life.
    Thus, I will learn it as a brother.
    I will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its accessories,
    its source code, and its algorithm.
    I will ever guard it against the ravages of noobs and crackers.
    I will keep my 128-bit key clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready.
    We will become part of each other. We will...
    Before God I swear this creed.
    My 128-bit key and myself are the defenders of my network.
    We are the masters of our enemy.
    We are the saviors of my life.
    So be it, until there is no enemy, but PEACE.

    --
    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
    1. Re:de ad be ef fa ce fa de by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You watched too much Full Metal Jacket ;-) While we are at it:

      "This is my cipher and this is my num,
      not much to fight, it ain't for fun!"

      num=number (cf. numpad - you get it)

    2. Re:de ad be ef fa ce fa de by liquidsin · · Score: 1

      dead beef face fade?

      --
      do not read this line twice.
  34. So the law, like code, can have exploits written? by Victor+Tramp · · Score: 1

    which point out the flaws in the law which make it easy to illustrate that the law is buggy and needs rewriting??

    funny..

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    US$0.02++
  35. Well, it is a dead end by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Practically every cryptographer will agree that as soon as your secret key is known, it is too late for damage control. The only thing you can do is change the key. Trying to suppress it is entirely futile and a singn of significant stupidity.

    At the same time, you cannot protect numbers. They do not belong to anybody.

    --
    Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    1. Re:Well, it is a dead end by Ann+Coulter · · Score: 1

      Remember that any finite sequence of bytes can be encoded, uniquely, into an integer (abeit a large one). If numbers do not belong to anybody, then one can (rather easily) encode any copyrighted work as an integer and distribute it.

    2. Re:Well, it is a dead end by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

      in this respect, taking any software to its binary form results in a series of numbers (1s & 0s). So software should not be copyrightable!

      --
      Balderdash!
    3. Re:Well, it is a dead end by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 1

      If numbers do not belong to anybody, then one can (rather easily) encode any copyrighted work as an integer and distribute it.

      Well, duh. What do you people think an .MP3 file is? A 4,000,000-digit number.

      Of course you can "own" a number. This whole debate is stupid. Just because you encode a book as ASCII digits doesn't mean you own the copyright to the book.

    4. Re:Well, it is a dead end by Deanalator · · Score: 1

      I am also curious if AACS-LS is claiming that this number is a technology, product, service, device, or component. Those are the only things that DMCA cares about, and I could make a pretty good argument against calling a number any one of those things.

      from the DMCA
      "No person shall ... offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof that that -" ...

      The article suspects that they will try to claim that it is a "part" of a "technology" that could theoretically crack an HDDVD. I am pretty sure that the final HDDVD cracking code will contain an if statement as well. I really hope that these lawsuits will end up redefining the law so that a "circumvention device" must at least be a physical device (which, I know would go against the decss ruling).

    5. Re:Well, it is a dead end by trawg · · Score: 1

      With that in mind, I find it MINDBOGGLING that the parties involved here made so much noise about the leaked key. All it does is draw attention to one specific problem.

      Instead, they should have ignored it and quietly gone about the process of changing keys and revoking the compromised key - which, correct me if I'm wrong, was one of the major design features of this whizbang new system. They could have even claimed a small PR victory showing how well their design has worked and how well it protected the rights of their licensees.

      Instead they've made a massive mess, drawn more attention to how useless DRM is, made themselves looked like jerks, and simply highlighted the availability of pirated HD DVD content. The only people that are winning here are the lawyers!

    6. Re:Well, it is a dead end by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      At the same time, you cannot protect numbers. They do not belong to anybody.

      Yup, this was the reason Intel stopped using purely numerical names for their processors.

      --
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    7. Re:Well, it is a dead end by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I think the talk between the engineers and exec went something like a Dilbert cartoon (from memory):
      Dilbert: "What you're asking for is not possible. No battery can be this size and handle this load"
      Lady: *goes into some sort of trance*
      Dilbert: "That's not what you wanted to hear. Now you'll take what I said and replace it with something absurd"
      Lady: "Gah!"
      Dilbert: "The transformation is complete"
      Lady: "What do you mean there's no such thing as a battery. You're just lying to avoid work, I'll be talking to your boss"

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  36. I deftly own all of you by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 1

    I used pi. All your numbers are belong to me.

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  37. Go Ahead, Make My Day by Detritus · · Score: 2, Funny

    So F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 is truly mine now, and you can pry it out of my cold, dead fingers!

    Your proposal is acceptable.

    --
    Mea navis aericumbens anguillis abundat
  38. Oh sweet, now how will you get my WEP KEY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cause its copywrited and I can sue you for... not for hacking because no civil court would understand... but for using my number!

  39. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    eight six seven five three ohhhh niiiiieeeeeyine!!!!!!!!!

  40. You Bastards! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now you've done it!

    All the numbers are gone!

    What are the rest of us poor slobs to do?

    Won't anyone think of the children?

    Damn you! Damn you all to hell!

  41. e and pi are mine! by ZiggyStardust1984 · · Score: 1

    Welcome your new math overlord!

    1. Re:e and pi are mine! by dltaylor · · Score: 1

      Just as soon as you deliver the complete number as text, not a formula or algorithm, although all of the known digits might make even that a derivative work, such that you can only copyright the currently unknown value.

  42. If everything is illegal ... by TihSon · · Score: 1

    ... then we are all criminals.

    --
    In B.C., our fascism is green.
    1. Re:If everything is illegal ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you forget, /.ers already are all criminals, (or at least, all the ones who have ever used a newly copyrighted 128 bit integer ;)

  43. Apparently I now own 503! by Threni · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure "service temporarily unavailable" qualifies as a Haiku, however...

    1. Re:Apparently I now own 503! by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      I'm not sure "service temporarily unavailable" qualifies as a Haiku, however...

      Clicks like the wind flew

      Unavailable it is

      You are Slashdotted

      --
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  44. What is a criminal? by kurt555gs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lots of laws need to be broken. Bad laws disobeyed get them changed. How do you feel about the 'criminal' blacks that rode in the front of the bus in Mongomery Alabama in the 60's. Clearly criminal, but was it wrong?

    DRM is not about copyright infringement, it is about criminalizing not letting some one control how you use what you actually buy and pay for.

    I am sick of hearing that not paying some media giant every time you hear some song, or watch some movie is piracy. I do not think it is, and I do not think there is naything wrong with sharing it for free.

    What I think copyright piracy is, it to make counterfeit CD's DVD's etc and selling them for money.

    I see nothing at all wrong with sharing software, movies, songs, books, etc as long as you are not representing them to be original or charging for them.

    Is this the way the laws are today? , nope, cause we have corrupt politicos doing the bidding of the big media companies that finance their campaigns.

    So if my conscience tells me some law is wrong, unfair, or unjust, oh well.

    Bad laws need to be broken often enough to make them change.

    Looks at the 09 f9 thing, people have just had enough silliness with this.

    Cheers

    --
    * Carthago Delenda Est *
    1. Re:What is a criminal? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It's wrong because the makers have less of a chance to sell their work.
      There is nothing wrong withy that, nor is the idea of copyright a bad one.
      What is bad is unending copyright, since that is against the constitution.

      Limited time was never meant to be longer then someones life, hell one could argue it wasn't even supposed to be longer then a few years.

      Personally, I like the idea of 10 year copyright, 1,000,000 dollar 1 time 10 year renewal.

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    2. Re:What is a criminal? by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      It's wrong because the makers have less of a chance to sell their work.

      This is B.S. and cannot be proven. In fact, if you just consider news articles, you'll see it wildly swing to better or worse depending on the source.

    3. Re:What is a criminal? by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      There is nothing wrong withy that, nor is the idea of copyright a bad one. Yeah there is. Spock summed it up perfectly: the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Why should the few have the right to control the actions of the many? So they can make a buck from something?

      Lemme tell you some other scams like this. Some countries make it illegal for anyone to do their own wiring. They claim this is because they want to reduce the number of houses that are burning down.. but if you actually look at the people who introduce these laws, they're not firefighters.. they're electricians.

      --
      How we know is more important than what we know.
    4. Re:What is a criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're missing the point of civil disobedience. It's one thing to break the law when you're at home in the comfort of your study, and at very little risk of being caught out. It's quite another to do so defiantly, in public, knowing full well that you are at serious risk of going to jail.

      One of these two options stands a chance of getting a bad law repealed. The other doesn't. Guess which is which.

      If you see civil disobedience as the way to deal with the DMCA, then I say, good luck to you - you're standing up for your beliefs, which is a fantastic thing to see, regardless of what those beliefs are (I can respect somebody for standing up for what they believe in, especially when they are more likely to lose than win, even when I disagree with their beliefs). But you need to be prepared to accept the consequences of your actions; otherwise, civil disobedience is little more than sticking up your middle finger when there's nobody around to see, and will have about as much effect.

    5. Re:What is a criminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Lots of laws need to be broken. Bad laws disobeyed get them changed. How do you feel about the 'criminal' blacks that rode in the front of the bus in Mongomery Alabama in the 60's. Clearly criminal, but was it wrong?

      ...

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      Dan: Yeah?
      Isaac: You know I love you, don't you?
      Dan: Yeah.
      Isaac: And because I love you I can say this: no rich young white guy has ever gotten anywhere with me comparing himself to Rosa Parks. Got it?
      Dan Yes sir.
      Isaac: Good.

    6. Re:What is a criminal? by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      "I do not think it is, and I do not think there is naything wrong with sharing it for free." That is nice but untrue. Making copies of it and giving it out to the public is piracy. So is copying it and giving it to a friend. The problem with the DMCA isn't that it is trying to make piracy illegal. It already is. It is that it is making all sorts of perfectly legal activities illegal. Like me ripping DVDs that I own and putting them on my iPod or notebook. I don't use DeCSS to pirate DVDs I use it to watch DVDs that I own on my Linux machine. I don't use Bit torrent to download movies. I use to to download Linux ISOs.

      These laws are bad because they are making legal things illegal.

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  45. Re:We WILL see about that Krabs !!! by unity100 · · Score: 1

    one needs to patent entire sequences

  46. Prior Art My Ass by zebadoba · · Score: 1

    Off too the Public Notary to certify my date, time and number. 95 E8 6D E9 5A AF 04 25 98 53 28 29 59 17 C0 1A

  47. Re: 96 51 0F ED DF EC 61 18 D5 19 7E E9 74 48 72 D by slothman32 · · Score: 1

    I read the Wikipedia sire, and the episode itself, there is no step 2.
    It is really phase 2.
    I did find out what it is though.
    Find someone dumb enough to buy it.
    Like Japanesse buisnessman buying schoolgirl's underwear.

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  48. But what if we run out? by swillden · · Score: 1

    If everybody starts taking their own 128-bit number, so that no one else can use it, what are we going to do when we run out of 128-bit numbers?

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    1. Re:But what if we run out? by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      We should ask people with more than one to return them. 128-bit numbers are a limited resource! (Especially those that start with one or more zeroes.)

    2. Re:But what if we run out? by f4hy · · Score: 0

      IPv6 people are hoping we wont. ever. Defintaly more 128 bit numbers than people.

    3. Re:But what if we run out? by Dracos · · Score: 1

      Wait for AACS to come up with a scheme that uses longer keys. 5 bytes for DVD, 16 bytes for HD-DVD, perhaps 48 bytes for the SuperUltraMega-DVD(TM)?

  49. I just got... by Metsys · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just got 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00. I figured it's bound to turn up on someone's hard drive. My chances are now better than ever to live the American Dream of this century.

    1. Re:I just got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mother fucker. We just generated a new key to replace 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63 and you already leaked it.

      We're going to get you, you motherfucking terrorist! YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE LAST FROM US!

      Sincerly,
      Joseph Thompson
      MAFIAA lawyer

  50. Let's see.. by nlitement · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about 1337? Damn, I'm going to be rich!

  51. Whooosssshhhhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > At the same time, you cannot protect numbers. They do not belong to anybody.

    Does this mean that Felton is lying and C2C9AE6F7181F6C28DEBB537C894A949 isn't really mine?

  52. F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 by vimh42 · · Score: 1

    Hah hah! I stole it!

  53. Re:Typical of liberals... by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Making fun of the RIAA and the DMCA to justify pirating music. You are all criminals.

          First off, we're talking about DVD's and movies, not music.

          Secondly then if you want to live in a world where a corporation has the power to determine IF you are allowed to watch a movie you purchased, how many times, and on what equipment - then so be it. Most of us resent the very thought, much less this feeble and poorly thought out attempt at implementation.

          Thirdly, copyright infringement has only recently been made a "crime", in the US. In many other countries it's a civil matter. You know, I have never driven under the speed limit - mostly I have driven 15 to 20% over. Should I go to jail for that, too?

          I go to movies. I pay to go to the movies. Why do I have to sit through a 5 minute sermon on how evil piracy is when I paid to get there? Then again, when I buy a DVD, why the hell should I be FORCED to watch trailers and nowadays even ads? So I rip it, and get my right of choice back.

          While this code can be used to rip things and publish them on the internet, it's useful to me mostly to be able to see the movies I bought in the format I want. Call me a criminal if you will. I will call you a mindless consumer. Take what you're given and shut up. Leave those of us who want to DO something about the situation alone - when the REAL information revolution happens you'll have us to thank.

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  54. Smaller numbers- more fun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder what would happen if some DRM system's random generator creates a very small number. Something like
    00000000000000000000000000000005, or short, 5. Would the distribution of this number be forbidden as well? Would they really sue Sesame Street?

    (unfortunately it's only a theoretic possibility...)

    1. Re:Smaller numbers- more fun? by daverabbitz · · Score: 1

      Usually, at least for asymmetric ciphers, the high bit is set to guarantee that the number isn't easily factorisable. I don't know if there is relevance to a symmetric key, such as the AACS key.

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  55. i own the answer to everything by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Funny

    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 42
    thats right suckers! I own the answer to life, the universe, and everything. Please, don't all send your checks to me at once.

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    1. Re:i own the answer to everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That last pair should be 2A.

    2. Re:i own the answer to everything by geekoid · · Score: 1


      FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

      I own the question.
      Clearly the answer must be a derivitive of the question. Pay up.

      --
      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    3. Re:i own the answer to everything by Allocius+Reikei · · Score: 5, Funny

      Since it's hex, you own 66. Now if you owned 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A on the other hand...

    4. Re:i own the answer to everything by pembo13 · · Score: 1

      And to thing, all he had to do was use calc or kcalc

      --
      "Thanks for all the money you paid to us. We've used it to buy off ISO among other things" -Microsoft
    5. Re:i own the answer to everything by EdMack · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's the question. Moron.

      --
      puts ("Python r0cks\n");
    6. Re:i own the answer to everything by TheSciBoy · · Score: 1

      Ah, but does Douglas Adams ever state the base of the number? Maybe it's actually base 13! Maybe the answer to life, the universe and everything is 54.

      --
      Badgers, we don't need no stinking badgers! - UHF
    7. Re:i own the answer to everything by nsebban · · Score: 1

      Pwned.

      --
      ____
      nico
      Nico-Live
    8. Re:i own the answer to everything by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's the question. Moron.

      You're so awesome! Look at how you replied and said I was a moron. That was incredible! I always wanted to meet someone as witty as you. You took my joke and pointed out that I am a moron, and at the same time, you showed how you know more than everyone about Douglas Adams' stories! You really put me in my place...when I grow up, I'm gonna be awesome, just like you! We all stand in your shadow, you are like a god to us mere mortals. All of us only wish we could reply to postings in as intelligent a way as you did! Congratulations, oh lord of the poignant reply!

      --
      stuff |
    9. Re:i own the answer to everything by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Nobody writes jokes in base 13.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  56. I think I'll take 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 by YodaYid · · Score: 5, Funny

    That one should pay off pretty quickly :-)

    1. Re:I think I'll take 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 by jamesh · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's my IP address you insensitive clod!

      I hereby give you permission to try and hack me on that IP address!

    2. Re:I think I'll take 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 by benplaut · · Score: 1

      I call 1337. Hell, i'll take 31337, too!

    3. Re:I think I'll take 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Wow. That's the same as the combination I have on my luggage.

    4. Re:I think I'll take 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 by l3mr · · Score: 1

      That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard of in my life! That's the kinda thing an idiot would have on his luggage!

      --
      The world always seems brighter when you've just made something that wasn't there before. - Neil Gaiman
    5. Re:I think I'll take 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 by SQLGuru · · Score: 1
      Please cease and desist the use of my protected number. See reference to my prior art here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=233449&cid=189 92153.

      Dear YodaYid.

      It is our understanding that you are providing to the public the above-identified key, and are thereby providing and offering to the public a technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof that is primarily designed, produced, or marketed for the purpose of circumventing the technological protection measures afforded by SQLGuru. Doing so constitutes a violation of the anti-circumvention provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (the "DMCA"), 17 U.S.C. 1201(a)(2) and 1201(b)(1). Providing or offering the circumvention offering identified above, and any other such offering that is primarily designed or produced to circumvent protection measures, or which has only limited commercial significant purpose other than to circumvent, or which are offered to the public with knowledge that it is for use in circumventing, violates the rights of SQLGuru and any others harmed as well. See 1201(a)(2), 1201(b)(1), and 1203.

      In view of the foregoing apparent anti-circumvention violations, we demand that you immediately:

      1) remove or cause to be removed the above-specified circumvention offering and any other circumvention offering which is designed, produced or provided to circumvent said encryption or to assist others in doing so, and/or any links directly thereto, and

      2) refrain from posting or causing to be provided any circumvention offering or from assisting others in doing so, including by direct links thereto, on any website now or at any time in the future.

      Failure to do so will subject you to legal liability.

      Please confirm to the undersigned in writing no later than noon a week from the above-indicated date that you have complied with these demands. You may reach the undersigned by telephone at [private] or by email at [private]@[private].com. SQLGuru reserves all further rights and remedies with respect to this matter.

      Very truly yours,

      [private]
      Counsel for SQLGuru

    6. Re:I think I'll take 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 by YodaYid · · Score: 1

      Ok Ok. But I think I found REALLY prior art.

  57. Re:Typical of liberals... by shystershep · · Score: 1

    Lovely, except that we as a society have granted property rights in these 'resources' regardless of their scarcity in order to provide an incentive to create (they are no more or less scarce because they are digital - just easier to copy). Copyrights and patents are provided for in the US Constitution; just because the system is messed up today and allows abuse does not mean that giving property rights to intangibles is wrong. How many songs would there be for you to copy for free if the artists could get no money? How many books, movies, paintings, etc.? Some people would do it for the love of it, but no one would be able to do it for a living when anyone and everyone was free to copy as they liked.

    --
    The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer. - Albert Einstein
  58. Rats! There goes my WEP key. by Tex+Bravado · · Score: 1

    Now how will I keep the neighbors off the network ?

  59. Why not all of them? by snowwrestler · · Score: 1

    If I run this locally on all 3.4e + 38 values, does that protect me from DMCA take-down notices when I post one of the values online?

    --
    Build a man a fire, he's warm for one night. Set him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
    1. Re:Why not all of them? by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      If I run this locally on all 3.4e + 38 values, does that protect me from DMCA take-down notices when I post one of the values online?


      Nope, because even in the best possible reading, you don't really own the number, you have just made the number a method of circumventing copyright that can be subject of a DMCA take-down. That doesn't insulate you from take-down notices from other people who may own content that it circumvents the protection on.

      Of course, if distributing the number alone without explanation of its use is a DMCA violation, you then might have a cause of action against anyone who distributes any of your numbers for other purposes. Including, one might imagine, someone who incorporates it in a different decryption system.

  60. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, since I don't pirate music or movies, never buy music and rarely buy movies and would have never even heard of that number if they hadn't tried to bury it *I* make fun of the RIAA and the DMCA because a) they're anti-fair use, b) they're bullies, and c) they "convince" (read bribe) our congress critters to pass *really* stupid laws for their own benefit.

    So no, I am not a criminal, and if the RIAA (or anyone else for that matter) attempts to us 7C C4 29 01 00 F8 03 4A EE 26 06 76 6A 5E CD 87, well I'll be forced to use the DMCA to protect my valuable IP.

  61. Great ! by elgatozorbas · · Score: 1

    All prime numbers have been taken already :-(

  62. Re:Typical of liberals... by geekoid · · Score: 1

    There doing nothing of the sort, and you know it.

    --
    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  63. My number is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Service Unavailable". Cool.

  64. no longer naked and petrified by joe_bruin · · Score: 4, Funny

    hex("natalie portman") = 6e 61 74 61 6c 69 65 20 70 6f 72 74 6d 61 6e 00
    Now she's mine! Those of you who invoke hot grits will be hearing from my lawyer.

    1. Re:no longer naked and petrified by Cheapy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hot Grits will get Hot Writs?

      --
      Would you kindly mod me +1 insightful?
    2. Re:no longer naked and petrified by einhverfr · · Score: 1

      "I served the writs with a smile so bland
      and I copied all the letters in a big round hand.

      I copied all the letters in a hand so free
      That now I am the ruler of the queen's navee" ...

      "Stay close to your desks, and never go to see
      And you *all* may be rulers of the queen's navee!"

      --

      LedgerSMB: Open source Accounting/ERP
  65. Quoting MiB flick... by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

    "You can have my (F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088), when you pry it from my cold dead fingers."
    "Your proposal is acceptable."
    --
    ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
  66. why 128 bit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why must it be 128bits? why not 8bits?

  67. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Piss off, some of us are communists.

    You piss off, always the communists ignoring the anarchists.

  68. Civil War Anyone? by Cytlid · · Score: 1

    Ahh yes the inevitable techy vs non-techy argument. I say we start a war, death to all stupid people!

    Well hey let's just not stop at Civil War... let's go all out World War 3! Viva la resistance, er something.

    If you can work a scientific calculator and your VCR (DVD/DVR, car, watch, cat, etc) isn't flashing 12:00, come with me!

    --
    FLR
  69. Re:Typical of liberals... by geekoid · · Score: 1

    That would be a great view point except:
    He said 'Criminal' and not 'thief'. Therfore he is correct.
    The governmen A.K.A the people have granted the right of copyright as per the constitution.
    What it is not in an inaliable right.

    --
    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  70. Re:Typical of liberals... by esampson · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately this is false reasoning. The argument falls apart in the second premise "[r]ights are defined as to determine how scarce resources are to be controlled".

    Free speech is a right that has nothing to do with scarce resources. Neither is freedom of religion.

    The premise of copyright and all the ancillary laws such as DMCA is, I believe, that the individual who creates a work has a right to compensation for that work. Under that reasoning when you illegally copy something you are, in fact, depriving someone of one of their rights.

    Please note that I am not saying I am for or against copyright laws, DMCA, RIAA, AACS, or WTFBBQ. I am simply saying 'here is the flaw in your argument' and 'here is the point of view of those in opposition to you'.

  71. Wayne Gretzky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Great One, he was 99. No one else was, nor will anyone be 99.

  72. Re:I've got mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3c68746d6c3e and 3c48544d4c3e are hereby covered by the DMCA. I expect to see royalty payments from all of you HTTP hosts out there!

  73. DeCSS as a number by DrYak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This has been done before with the DeCSS algorithm, for the express purpose of proving that it's stupid to restrict it's distribution as, supposedly, you can't prevent a prime number with interesting property to be published in press.

    --
    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
  74. My idea. by eddy · · Score: 1

    I had a similar idea, but I was going to encrypt something of mine with todays date in "Monthname daynum, YYYY" format, and then go around the web posting threats everywhere the date is used.

    What, some set of numbers are more magical than anothers? :-)

    --
    Belief is the currency of delusion.
  75. we are no longer the knights that say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...ni!
    We are now that knights that say "AE 5D 8C 32 C9 AD 30 E8 74 BE 43 CC 75 6F 1C E4"!

    Bring us a shrubbery.

  76. Re:Typical of liberals... by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 3, Informative

    You missed out 'How many roads must a man walk down?'

    --
    Don't go to a brothel if you want to buy broth
  77. Re:Typical of liberals... by geekoid · · Score: 0, Troll

    Forced? someone is prying your eyes open? Someone is refusig to let me you in after the trailers start?

    Don't be melodramatic...besides some people like the trailers.
    I do agree however that we should eb able to rip anything to any media, as lng as we are not distributing it. If someone thinks Another party is distributing their work, then they should ahve to get a court order.

    But don't go on withy the word FORCED. Inconvienced is more accurate, but that doesn't make you sound like a victim.

    --
    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  78. Re:Typical of liberals... by takidau · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Information may not be a scarce resource, but good music is. The number of good songs in the world is (from the perspective of most people) much smaller than the number of bad songs. So someone who writes a good song thus has ownership rights to something that could reasonably be considered a scarce resource, and as such, by copying music from someone, you are indeed infringing upon the songwriter's right (by your definition, at least).

  79. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Making fun of the RIAA and the DMCA to justify pirating music.

    Awwwww, is the widdle guy's feelings hurt?

    Speaking of which, none of this has anything to do with the RIAA or music, the AACS key encrypts movies.

    Of course, not getting your facts straight is typical of stupid trolls.

  80. Turn it into an image by cortana · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can turn your own, personal 128 bits into an image here: http://robots.org.uk/itii/

    1. Re:Turn it into an image by ChrisMounce · · Score: 1
  81. My number goes up to eleven. by Etherwalk · · Score: 1

    01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 11

    See?

  82. U.S. law reaches further than you might think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You won't get a copyright on the number or the haiku, but your number has become an illegal circumvention device under the DMCA, such that anyone subject to US law caught distributing it can be punished under the DMCA's anti-trafficking section, for which the DMCA's Safe Harbor provisions do not apply.


    Dunno. I know of one guy who's somewhat unexpectedly finding himself being subject to U.S. law. Sadly, as a U.S. taxpayer, I'll probably wind up partially footing the bill for any prison time he ends up doing.

    Too bad (John) Howard and Co. didn't grow a pair and defend their citizen more assertively.
  83. Are these also protected? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I add one to the certain 128-bit number the AACS is trying to censor, is the new number also protected? What about the number after that?

    What if I multiply the number by two or use a more complex computation to find another number? Is disclosing my computation and the final number also forbidden?

  84. Re:Typical of liberals... by huckda · · Score: 2, Funny

    Information is not a scarce resource


    it is where I work.
    --
    "Just Smile and Nod." --Huck
  85. Life Mirrors Art by 26199 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I never thought there would *actually* be a campaign to use up all the GUIDs.

  86. Actual legality of these keys by White+Shade · · Score: 1

    I wonder, the website encrypts the copyrighted haiku and whatnot, and the keys become illegal circumvention devices, but I wonder, does the fact that that website is basically a mockery of the law, or at least a parody, or a joke, or at the very least, simply not meant to be taken seriously, mean that these joke keys are unenforceable? Could you really challenge someone using these keys, or would a court say that there is no serious basis to the material on the site.... it's an interesting question (and I wonder if it could create a precedent that could impact the real dmca...)

    --
    ìì!
    1. Re:Actual legality of these keys by Dracos · · Score: 1

      The DMCA makes a mockery of the legal system. Freedom to Tinker is turning the law against itself and the industry that authored and paid for it.

      Call it a "law of unintended consequences".

  87. Re:Typical of liberals... by TranscendentalAnarch · · Score: 5, Funny

    "you insensitive clod" would have fit nicely in there.

  88. I hereby claim the numbers by mysidia · · Score: 1
    I am laying claim to

    00000000000000000000000000000001

    And also

    10000000000000000000000000000000

    And especially...
    • 00000000000000000000000000000000
    • F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    • 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F
    • FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    • FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    • 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
    • 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10
    • 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11
    • 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
    • FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE
    Any integer that has any of these numbers as a substring, is also not allowed to be published, as any such number may be used as part of a circumvention device to gain access to my material effectively protected by technological copy protection measures.
  89. 9F 8B 44 B1 23 71 D3 8A 57 26 E2 AE 06 AB 10 6E by Blackbrain · · Score: 1
    I got 9F 8B 44 B1 23 71 D3 8A 57 26 E2 AE 06 AB 10 6E

    ...which is weird, because that's the same combination as my luggage...

    --
    Where would we be if Wheel had hid her round rock in a cave instead of showing everyone how it rolls?
  90. don't forget! by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

    Don't forget to get your hex tattooed!!!!!! Probably on your balls or something! Great fun for court evidence, now you can sue your pants off someone!

    --
    Balderdash!
  91. Re:Typical of liberals... by Wicko · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't this be +5 funny? ;)

  92. Re:Typical of liberals... by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Being a criminal means infringing on someone's rights.


    No, it means breaking a criminal law.

    Rights are defined as to determine how scarce resources are to be controlled.


    That's a rather unusual definition of rights. A more typical definition of a right would be "a just claim or title, whether legal, prescriptive, or moral." (the first noun definition.)

    Information is not a scarce resource, by copying music from someone, I am not invading anyone's property, or if you prefer infringing on anyone's right.


    You are violating a legal property right.

    Really, your entire argument seems to be based on inventing unusual definitions of words ("criminal", "right", "property") as if they were the normal, uncontroversial, widely accepted definitions, and then just claiming that your preferred conclusion flows naturally from your definitions. That's rather silly.

  93. Stupid bits... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    When I was younger, the only stupid people we had to deal with were the two-bits. Now we got all these 128-bits running around to make people more stupidier.

  94. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  95. Numbers need not be random by sigmabody · · Score: 1

    As far as I know, there's no requirement that the number you use as a key need be random; it makes sense cryptographically of course, but the law has no such requirement.

    I wonder if you could patent some choice GUID's, and sue Microsoft if they choose to include them in their operating system without paying you royalties...

  96. Site slashdotted, registering here by kill_-9 · · Score: 1

    The site appears to be slashdooted just as I was about to post my number. So, I'll record it here instead.

      F0 89 5B 82 AD 09 90 9F 94 E0 B3 D3 3F 6C 99 2F

    is mine. Finally, a number to call my very own, and a nice one too. Lots of nines.

  97. certain 128-bit domain name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ping 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0.com
    PING c17-ss-2-lb.cnet.com (216.239.113.148) 56(84) bytes of data.

    1. Re:certain 128-bit domain name by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      So everyone who operates an DNS server is now involved in distributing that key! That's a lot of people to sue! :-)

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  98. ALLRIGHT! by Kingrames · · Score: 1

    "So F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 is truly mine now, and you can pry it out of my cold, dead fingers!"

    Oh Goodie! That's the fun part!

    --
    If you can read this, I forgot to post anonymously.
  99. Mine, all mine... by DamonHD · · Score: 1

    b4 5b 1e 84 f0 1a 49 19 6d 9b ce d2 e2 2a 20 4c
    62 5d a4 5d d8 8d 2a 1a cb 65 9d 46 80 cd 4d 69
    dc 3a a4 5b 26 86 7d 40 e9 ef 86 d8 0a 81 1c 16
    03 a8 a6 0a 18 48 44 22 f3 bd ae b7 61 26 d3 ae
    ff 93 ef af 83 f5 1f 91 08 18 3d 09 ad 0a bd 0e
    24 80 5d d6 b5 55 b8 83 1f ba 7a 49 d8 39 2f bb
    58 23 07 2b b1 4b a9 b1 75 6f dd 9a 13 56 db 14
    78 b3 5b 95 1a ce b3 18 5a 75 cc b8 69 30 c8 31
    ec 2d 9b c7 89 f9 fe 73 16 17 d4 0d 14 e9 58 fb
    4f 43 78 14 4d e5 8d 78 4f 6f 74 8b 08 81 3a ef
    b6 10 e4 a9 fb bd 52 c7 be 48 f3 92 df d1 1c 5c
    fb 3b b3 0c 5e 07 96 d4 3e 65 b6 4e 5b 79 c6 ff
    43 46 32 f3 89 6a f7 52 31 37 7e 3c d0 e6 40 9d
    06 aa 4a 62 9f c2 ac 03 6a 10 d3 1e 78 74 76 64
    64 7f 72 10 9c ee e2 e1 3d 09 c4 5c 25 e3 62 50
    65 92 d5 35 b3 c7 3d db 6b af 70 11 c6 55 f1 3c

    See http://random.hd.org/getBits.jsp?numBytes=16&type= hex for all my other numbers...

    Keep your hands OFF *my* numbers!

    Rgds

    Damon

    --
    http://m.earth.org.uk/
  100. Million Numbers by MankyD · · Score: 1

    Suddenly my sig seems strangely relevant. I actually made the site before the latest HD-DVD fiasco. (yes you can buy (for free) numbers. no you can not buy 128bit numbers.)

    --
    -dave
    http://millionnumbers.com/ - own the number of your dreams
  101. 503 is mine now, dogs! by plover · · Score: 4, Funny
    Woo hoo! I now own the rights to "503 Service Temporarily Unavailable"! Crank up the phone, Maw, we're callin' us a fancy city lawyer and suing ourselfs any site that gets slashdotted!

    And if my luck holds out, I'll own "404" next.

    --
    John
    1. Re:503 is mine now, dogs! by EricWright · · Score: 1

      Dammit, I got the same number. How many zorkmids do I owe you?

  102. Did Someone Say Pi? by ghotihed · · Score: 1

    I think I'll see if I can find a way to own 31415926535897932384626433832795. Then I just dare any of you to draw a circle.

    Me
    --
    I'm not an actor, but I play one on television.
  103. Nobody owns no integer by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    They own integer only in connection to software. The problem is that too many people know which lock this key opens. It is like finding a juror for a case that have been very public.

    --
    I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
  104. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll *both* be first against the wall when the revolution comes.

    Long live homeopathy

  105. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    "Society" doesn't grant anything, society has no purpose, no will, no existence, it is just a collection of individuals. The US constitution is just a piece of paper written by some individuals and agreed to by some other individuals. Not "society" and certainly not me.

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    \u262D = \u5350
  106. Ah, Lonestar... by jas_public · · Score: 1

    I see your 7D 02 3A B4 61 F3 F0 AA 2C 2B 93 B2 EA F0 AB 29 is as big as mine.

    1. Re:Ah, Lonestar... by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      Hey! That's the same as the combination on my luggage.

  107. My own Prime by aniefer · · Score: 1

    As part of a fundraiser, the math faculty where I went to university assigned prime numbers to people who donated some amount of money. I forget what my number was, and I doubt it was that large, but if your 128 bit number is prime, and starts (or ends? I forget which) with 2001, then you may not be the real owner :)

  108. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    You are free to say anything you want precisely because that does not alter those resources nor anyone's life against its will (which also is a scarce resource, I don't have copies of my mind)

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    \u262D = \u5350
  109. I wish i could by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    except it got slashdotted before i got there, now i'll never own my own number!

  110. Luggage by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088

    That's interesting! I've Got the Same Combination on My Luggage!

    --
    Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
  111. I feel dirty by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Funny

    Reading through this topic made me feel like I was watching some bizarre geek bukkake film. I just feel bad for whoever that is at the center covered by the result of all of you mentally masturbating so furiously.

    --
    Slashdot - where whining about luck is the new way to make the world you want.
  112. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    Copies of a good song are not scarce. What is really scarce is production of good songs, and a property right of disclosure can of course be applied to that.

    --
    \u262D = \u5350
  113. Re: 96 51 0F ED DF EC 61 18 D5 19 7E E9 74 48 72 D by Glothar · · Score: 2, Funny

    D'oh!

    No matter. The first 15 characters are enough for me to prove that you thought about circumventing DRM and if the last six years are any guide, then within two years simply thinking about how to circumvent DRM will be a crime.

  114. This doesn't seem to prove much of anything by The+Empiricist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If /.ers were to create 100 million unique 128-bit keys per second, it would take 1.078x10^23 years (about 7.7 trillion times the age of the universe) to exhaust the 128-bit keyspace. This suggests that giving some kind of legal protection over every single key actually generated might not be harmful public policy. Sure, eventually many of those numbers would have ASCII/UNICODE/etc. meanings such as "free speech good" (128 bits in ASCII), but protection for a number as part of a copyright access control technology does not imply that the creator of the number has any rights over those who have re-created the same number by coincidence. The AACS key might exist out there as part of an audio encoding, image, or movie file. But the AACS has not been trying to stamp out the remote possibility of coincidental use of this number. The only use that they have gone after has been use of the number as a key that is part of a copyright access control technology.

    If you don't like laws that protect copyright access control technologies, it is best to develop policy arguments against such laws. Gimicks like creating 128-bit numbers that others can "own" don't prove much of anything.

    1. Re:This doesn't seem to prove much of anything by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      Politicians create policy. Citizens are (usually) just rabble-rousers.

      This is rabble-rousing.

  115. Re:Typical of liberals... by Tribbin · · Score: 1

    Piss off, I just copy what high-rated posts say.

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  116. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The DVD player doesn't let you skip or fast forward them, which fits most people's definition of forced.

  117. I claim... by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

    ...404 (dec) or 0x194 as my own personal, copyrighted, DMCA'd number.

    All of you using the number 404 on your web servers must cease and desist immediately!

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  118. My 128 bit number, to AACS programmers with love by sick_soul · · Score: 5, Funny

    fa ce ad ec ad e0 fd ec af c0 ff ee 4b ad co de

  119. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The direct implication of what I've said is that leftism is completely immoral, you are way way off.

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  120. As soon as the slashdot effect wears off... by Tatisimo · · Score: 1

    I'm getting my own piece of digits! Stupid slashdot effect, interfering with my right to monopolize a digit. I might just have to sue about that...

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  121. Interesting idea.... by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

    No missing steps!!!

    1. Get a massive amount of people to encrypt files using the names of artists, albums, songs, or videos published by the RIAA/MPAA.
    2. Inundate them both with cease-and-desist orders.
    3. If they don't (and they won't), file some class-action lawsuits.
    4. Profit!!!

  122. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    Well you may be a 'criminal' in regards to the arbitrary whim of the US law, but how does that matter? We may be all criminals in regards to the constitution of the soviet union or the sacred tribal rules of Atlantis but it doesn't really matter. Being a criminal makes sense only in regards to inalienable rights.

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  123. This is slashdot... so why the fuck not. by testednegative · · Score: 1

    Everyone tag this article as "not09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0" :)

    1. Re:This is slashdot... so why the fuck not. by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

      I did...and also, AE 49 B3 EA 03 69 E1 07 36 C7 0E 03 F0 0C DB 15 is mine!

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  124. Re:Typical of liberals... by shystershep · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You mean you weren't alive in the 1780s to help draft the Constitution? Silly me.

    If you care to make a point based on something other than semantics (especially when you pull definitions out of your ass) I'd be happy to debate my post. In the meantime, maybe take a high school civics class (if they still have those) to learn what laws are and how it is that you have any 'rights.' If you're up to it, you might read some of John Locke's Second Treatise on Government for some background on 'society' and property rights. Some of his ideas are dated, of course, but if you can get through it you will probably be able to contribute something more intelligible than "Zomg!!111! Copyright is t3h SuXX0rs!!!11 I should be able to copy whatever I want because it's easy!!"

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  125. DEAD fingers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...you can pry it out of my cold, dead fingers!"

    Someone here has a lot of fingers.

  126. And then you can SUE them by crovira · · Score: 1

    Isn't America a wonderful country.

    Don't think big think small.

    I hereby claim the number 2 (two) and all numbers divisible by 2 (two.)

    Now everybody who claims fuck-all divisible by two owes me money.

    The DMCA appliies because I SAY so.

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    1. Re:And then you can SUE them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hereby claim 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01. All the scumbags who try to hide their cheats and lies by publishing mere multiples of this number should also be brought to justice (Helping the Pay My Rent non-profit).

      Just as legit as anything else they'll try.

  127. Re:Typical of liberals... by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 1
    While I agree with basically everything you've written here, I do have to mention that I'd be very very surprised if you'd truly never driven under the speed limit. I mean that's just impressive. How hard is it to order and pick up food from drive-ins without dropping below 5mph? Or do you just drive straight through supermarkets once in a while to get food? Do you sleep while doing 30mph circles in a residential neighborhood? How do you ever refuel?

    ;)

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  128. Think: BBC by absurdist · · Score: 1

    Sanjeev?

    1. Re:Think: BBC by MadJo · · Score: 1

      No, sorry, I'm not Indian. :)
      Though I do like Indian food.

  129. Re:Typical of liberals... by servognome · · Score: 1

    Rights are defined as to determine how scarce resources are to be controlled.
    What about privacy? The same "information is not a scarce resource" argument could be made about your SSN, DNA info, health records, web surfing habits, telephone converstaions, etc.
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  130. Oh no! All the numbers are gone, already! by Artifex · · Score: 1

    Maybe I can make the line for a 192-bit or 256-bit integer?

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    Get off my launchpad!
  131. mine by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    I now own 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 105820974944592...

  132. Muahahhaa!!! I own all numbers!!!! by gerf · · Score: 1

    I wrote a script of their script. I now own any number bewteen 0 and any 1000 digit number. Pwnz0r!

    Actually, this is a good idea. If there is any future "copyright" on a number, I can claim previous copyright of that number, preventing those future idiotic uses.

    Using this idea, I now release all numbers that I've created and henceforth copyrighted under the GPL v2.0 license.

  133. Re:Typical of liberals... by Miseph · · Score: 1

    Chip on your shoulder?

    Don't you have a book burning to go to or something?

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  134. What luck! by nweis · · Score: 1

    00000000000000000000000000000001

    Now all I have to do is catch some rich guy pointing at someone, then sue him for distributing my copyrighted number.

  135. Re:Typical of liberals... by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    I thought 'being a criminal' involved getting caught and convicted.

    Silly me.

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  136. F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 by luther349 · · Score: 0

    F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 oh wait.

  137. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One person's inconvenience is another's erosion of freedom. Whether I close my eyes, and sing la-la-la to myself, I still have to WAIT until 10 minutes of stupid trailers are done on my DVD. I can't fast forward and years later when the trailers are absolutely outdated and ridiculous, I'm still forced to wait. Maybe a mere inconvenience to you, but not so to me. But then again, some people are more submissive then others.

  138. Re: 96 51 0F ED DF EC 61 18 D5 19 7E E9 74 48 72 D by rthille · · Score: 4, Funny

    What
                damn lamness filter
    do
                screwing up my silly
    you
                visual slashdot jokes!
    mean
                Why are the editors
    NetBSD
                such humorless clods?
    is
                Wait, was that a
    Slow?
                Haiku? I should encrypt
    I'm
                It, so that I can enjoy
    Posting
                ownership of a 128-bit
    This
                number.
    From

    It!

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  139. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The DVD player doesn't let you skip or fast forward them, which fits most people's definition of forced. And who forced you to put the DVD in the player and watch the movie?
  140. D7 56 98 8C 1C B7 74 1A B4 4F 27 93 A0 75 D1 07 by Thinman · · Score: 1

    I'm a person, not a number

    (forgive my lossy translation from the Spanish version......)

  141. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, I have never driven under the speed limit - mostly I have driven 15 to 20% over. Should I go to jail for that, too?

    Ha. You've made two mistakes:

    One is assuming that the government doesn't already have a data-mining chip in your car with built-in GPS leeching off your battery to, say, report you've been a naughty boy to other chips installed in every traffic light. Actually, think of RFID.

    The second is, posting that on slashdot. Just like usenet, it could come back to bite you when we start pursuing you for that. Laws ain't too far off from just tightening the noose around your throat, and the technology I mention isn't as sci-fi-ish now as it was 30 years ago. We now have RFID, GPS, in-car CPU's, wireless cells / meshes. Uncle sam probably has their secret networks based on that tech too. I say, please watch where you choose to say what you know.

    Everyone knows about Bush's drug use, and the Swartzenegger smoke-out video. Their being in power instead of jail just means that our laws are pretty liberally ignored. Things change. Bubbles burst when people stop looking the other way, the way American slavery suddenly became an issue, and so did black liberties. All of a sudden, boom! Jailtime. Any decade now, they'll amend the American constitution to come after you full force for previous misdemeanors.
  142. Luggage Key by Kingrames · · Score: 1

    Mine was 44 3D A0 E7 01 2D 80 F1 D3 3B D4 3B 7B F2 23 8C, but I changed it to
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 so that I didn't have to memorize another number. It should still work, right?

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  143. Re: 3F 42 2D 7C AA 69 FA EA 86 DC ED 48 95 F6 8E F by Skapare · · Score: 1

    Maybe. But it definitely is the same as the decimal number 84084977912577888508934728179011456752.

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  144. Re:Typical of liberals... by Stripe7 · · Score: 1

    I see nothing wrong with paying for my own copy of a movie or CD, and putting it on any one my dozen or so players, digitizing it storing it on a server and playing the movies from there. I am against giving copies away. I paid for the movie or song, it is my copy, no reason for anyone else to get a copy for free. If I get bored with it or find that I detest it, I also feel it in my right to destroy all my personal copies and sell the original. Yes I rip my movies and delete all the so call added content that I detest. When I want to watch a movie at home, I turn on my player and play a movie, I do not want to wait 5 minutes for my DVD player to load up all the crap DRM software, play 10 minutes of stupid adverts and trailers before I get to see my movie.

  145. Re: 96 51 0F ED DF EC 61 18 D5 19 7E E9 74 48 72 D by Skapare · · Score: 1

    It's already circumvented ... 199805098495798194840401541004515635928

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  146. Hope Jenny doesn't get pissed... by jbarr · · Score: 1

    if I claim 00000000000000000000000008675309

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  147. Re:Typical of liberals... by trawg · · Score: 1
    Yikes, while I agree almost 100% with everything you've said....

    You know, I have never driven under the speed limit - mostly I have driven 15 to 20% over. Should I go to jail for that, too? ... I think this is a poor analogy. Copyright infringement doesn't physically hurt anyone else. It's even arguable as to the negative effects on the copyright owners.

    Speeding has no effect either - until you actually hit someone. The risks of speeding are that you'll kill people; the risks of copyright infringement is that artists will starve, Brad Pitt will have to fish food out of bins, etc.

    So yes, I think there is an argument that you should go to jail if you speed. There's a lot of processes in place (at least here in Australia) to give you fair change to adapt your behaviour - speeding tickets, loss of license, car confiscation, and finally - if they weren't enough of a deterrent - they throw you in the slammer.

    Aside from that though - totally agree :)
  148. Re:Typical of liberals... by turing_m · · Score: 1

    What ever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?

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  149. site got the /. effect by Jenovaside · · Score: 1

    site got the /. effect

  150. Re:Typical of liberals... by turing_m · · Score: 1

    "There's a lot of processes in place (at least here in Australia) to give you fair change to adapt your behaviour - speeding tickets, loss of license, car confiscation, and finally - if they weren't enough of a deterrent - they throw you in the slammer."

    Or they completely bypass all that and extradite you to the US.

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  151. does that apply... by Grog6 · · Score: 1

    If said grits are in my pants, WITH Natlie Portman??

    Inquiring minds want to know...

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  152. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then, you repeat yourself!

  153. Re:Typical of liberals... by cecil_turtle · · Score: 1

    Yes, we get it, you're using the most strict definition of forced. But as the GP pointed out, there is no other option if you want to watch the movie that you paid for. It'd be like having your car play you a Ford commercial before it would let you start your car - that you own. Get it? Yes, nobody "forced" you to drive the car, but there's no choice if you want to use what you purchased. The commercial / preview has no benefit to you, so you should be able to use what you purchased in the manner that you want.

    Any absolute still needs a qualifier. Like using "have to" or "has to" - you don't even "have to" breath, as long as living isn't one of your requirements. So stop being a dick and keep the context of the statement in mind.

    I think I just fed a troll.

  154. But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll be googling 5D 09 7F B4 60 B8 FB BD D0 2B 6A A3 F2 F6 AB CA everyday until I win that lotto jackpot ... and don't think I won't. I'm crazy enough to do it. I swear I am. Really.
    Yeah, funny, and all that. But people here frequently don't get the point.

    It's not the number - it's the context of the number. Yes, I can use this number for my WEP key. I can print it on my T-shirt, print it on toilet paper and wipe my ass with it. I can do whatever you want with this number so long as I don't identify it as the decryption key for YOUR encrypted data.

    Here's another example: A tennis racket. By itself, a tennis racket is made for whacking tennis balls. However, I could whack YOU with the racket, and suddenly its role changes from "sporting equipment" to "deadly weapon". But it's the same piece of equipment, and yes, a tennis racket is a plenty good enough weapon to kill somebody with.

    It's not the racket itself that's deadly, it's the context for how its used or presented. There's a world of difference between "I'm going to whack the ball" and "I'm going to whack your balls"...

    By publishing this number along with phrases like "decryption key for NNN", you've crossed the line from just some random number to establishing the context of the number as somehow important.

    So please, please PLEASE get the point - having and/or publishing a number, any number, isn't illegal. Publishing that this number (instead of the billions/trillions of others like it) is the decryption key for $FOO is what's illegal. // now done with armchair legal advice, resuming programming, IANAL YMMV and all that jazz //
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    1. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by sabre86 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can do whatever you want with this number so long as I don't identify it as the decryption key for YOUR encrypted data. But what if it's the encryption key for my encrypted data. It's hard to say data "belongs" to anybody to begin with, and if I paid for the DVD on which the data is encrypted I should unquestionably have access to the tools necessary to decrypt it (for fair use backups, for example) regardless of whether I own the data or not. Furthermore, I contend that free speech protections allow me to say "x is the key to the AACS encryption scheme." Even if you don't agree, arguing (for example) that it's analogous to giving out password or personal data is fallacious. The data encrypted by the key is neither, and, as I noted earlier, decryption ability is necessary for fair use.

      Here's another example: A tennis racket. By itself, a tennis racket is made for whacking tennis balls. However, I could whack YOU with the racket, and suddenly its role changes from "sporting equipment" to "deadly weapon". But it's the same piece of equipment, and yes, a tennis racket is a plenty good enough weapon to kill somebody with. Yeah, yeah... but we don't ban the tennis raquet. Nor do we ban you talking about the tennis raquet. Anything, anything at all, can be abused. That doesn't mean we should ban it, or talking about it in a certain context. By your own logic, you've commited a crime... by talking about using a tennis raquet in the context of murder. You've "crossed the line."

      Even so, I'll grant you that such logic might sell in court. That doesn't matter to me, I feel that one's free speech rights should only be limited by what actually harms others... not merely could be used to harm others. Anything can be abused.

      --sabre86
    2. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the decryption key for YOUR encrypted data

      It was their key, but it wasn't their data.

    3. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by GoofyBoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >I can do whatever you want with this number so long as I don't identify it as the decryption key for YOUR encrypted data.

      >However, I could whack YOU with the racket, and suddenly its role changes from "sporting equipment" to "deadly weapon".

      You don't charge mystery writers for murder just because they show in detail how to do so.
      You don't charge news reporters with breaking-and-entering because they communicate to the public how breaking-and-entering was performed.
      You don't censor history books because they outline how to commit acts of genocide.

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    4. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You don't charge mystery writers for murder just because they show in detail how to do so.
      You don't charge news reporters with breaking-and-entering because they communicate to the public how breaking-and-entering was performed.
      You don't censor history books because they outline how to commit acts of genocide.
      In none of these cases is talking about it a crime. It's also not a crime to talk about releasing the decryption key. But releasing the encryption key IS illegal under current law.

      I'm not arguing that it SHOULD be illegal, only that it is. Don't confuse "legal" with "right". Lots of things are legal that are unethical, and lots of things are ethical but illegal. But let's spend our time discussing reality instead of some contrived misunderstanding, OK?
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    5. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by kripkenstein · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not the number - it's the context of the number. Yes, I can use this number for my WEP key. I can print it on my T-shirt, print it on toilet paper and wipe my ass with it. I can do whatever you want with this number so long as I don't identify it as the decryption key for YOUR encrypted data.
      Absolutely wrong. Context is not important at all here. According to what you say, I can post the DeCSS code, so long as I don't say what it is? (DeCSS and the AACS key are both treated the same under the DMCA's non-circumvention clauses.)

      Of course I can't. What you say sounds reasonable in theory, but the letter of the law mentions no 'context' requirement.
    6. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by honkycat · · Score: 1

      It's hard to say data "belongs" to anybody to begin with, and if I paid for the DVD on which the data is encrypted I should unquestionably have access to the tools necessary to decrypt it (for fair use backups, for example) regardless of whether I own the data or not. I agre with you, but, unfortunately, this is not an unquestionable right. In fact, the law quite specifically says that you do not have that right. Perhaps the law is wrong and oversteps the Constitution, but I'm actually not tremendously hopeful of that. It's pretty vague about the details of the Copyrights it empowers the government to establish, and IIRC, you'd only have to convince the courts that restricting that would-be right is necessary to further the arts for it to stand up. I fear that in the name of stability they'll allow the law to stand and prop up outdated development and distribution models...
    7. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by damiam · · Score: 1
      It's hard to say data "belongs" to anybody to begin with

      I think you've just discovered the purpose of copyright law.

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    8. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Presumably the shape of the key to your front door can be reduced to a number. If all I do is publish that number by itself you're not harmed. But if I publish it and explain how it describes the shape of your house key, are you not harmed?

    9. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by rikkus-x · · Score: 1

      and if I paid for the DVD on which the data is encrypted I should unquestionably have access to the tools necessary to decrypt it (for fair use backups, for example)


      You don't need to decrypt it to back it up. Do you?
    10. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by NoodleSlayer · · Score: 1

      No. The question is rather, is the law CONSTITUTIONAL.

      If the law can be applied in such a way as to restrict the freedom of speech of something as basic as a number... does that cross the line?

    11. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Do the take-down notices include the encryption key? If so, can I use the same key for my own copy protection system and then sue the MPAA for disclosing it to third parties?

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    12. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not the number - it's the context of the number. Yes, I can use this number for my WEP key. I can print it on my T-shirt, print it on toilet paper and wipe my ass with it. I can do whatever you want with this number so long as I don't identify it as the decryption key for YOUR encrypted data. Here's another example: A tennis racket. By itself, a tennis racket is made for whacking tennis balls. However, I could whack YOU with the racket, and suddenly its role changes from "sporting equipment" to "deadly weapon". But it's the same piece of equipment, and yes, a tennis racket is a plenty good enough weapon to kill somebody with. It's not the racket itself that's deadly, it's the context for how its used or presented. There's a world of difference between "I'm going to whack the ball" and "I'm going to whack your balls"...


      I think you may have missed a point here. In an ideal situation it's the context that matters but that's not the situation here in the US. Consider guns and all the laws around guns. Using your logic just having a gun isn't a crime but it's been established that having a gun is a crime regardless of the context. This even extends to cases where the gun isn't even on the person charged (and convicted) but was only within reach.

      Context is a great logical debate. Reality is so much more scary.
    13. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I am not harmed by you. I might be harmed by someone who used your information. And a person who took the key out of the pocket to study its shape is liable. Also you might be liable for sharing this information if you did it on purpose to make harm to me. Sharing this information with other purpose is OK.

      You are free to say: "I heard Bob saying that the key to his door is described by this number: 00-00-00-00...". Who cares what you heard...

      > Presumably the shape of the key to your front door can be reduced to a
      > number. If all I do is publish that number by itself you're not
      > harmed. But if I publish it and explain how it describes the shape of
      > your house key, are you not harmed?

    14. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by sabre86 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, the purpose of copyright law in the United States is explicitly stated in the Constitution: "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries..." It's to promote the progress of science and the useful arts. The DMCA definitely does not do this, and thus isn't Constitutional to begin with. Notice also the "limited times" provision. It's definitely not ownership if it just evaporates after a certain time. Furthermore, you can argue you own the copyright, but even then, you don't own the data and you don't own the content. You merely "own" a partial ability to dictate when others can copy it. If you owned it, you'd be able to take it away from them after they copied it, etc. That's not how copyright law is supposed to work.

      That said, some people, such as the RIAA and friends, do seem to view data ownership as the purpose of copyright law. They're just wrong from both a moral and Constitutional basis.

      --sabre86

    15. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by raynet · · Score: 1

      Actually, IIRC, if you want to have a working backup of a DVD you need to strip (thus decrypt) the CSS from the disc. This is because you cannot write some of the required CSS data on consumer DVD-+R/RW media (the area where the CSS key should be is filled with zeroes or something like that).

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    16. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by IonOtter · · Score: 1

      However, I could whack YOU with the (tennis) racket...

      WHERE'S THE LOVE?!?

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    17. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a world of difference between "I'm going to whack the ball" and "I'm going to whack your balls" Well, I for one would be willing to volunteer myself as a subject in a detailed study of exactly what that difference is. Every Thursday, 'round my place.
    18. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      The only basic number is the 1. You get all positive integers by applying the plus operator. You in addition get the non-positive integers by applying the minus operator. From the integers you get to the rationals by applying the division operator. You can go on to the reals by taking limits. You see, everything but 1 is just derived.

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    19. Re:But context IS IMPORTANT!!! by Loko+Draucarn · · Score: 1

      1 is just derived from 0, 1 being the size of the set containing the empty set (which has size 0).

  155. i can't get one by mr_musan · · Score: 1

    so i think I'll just knock you off and burn yours, if a number no longer exists it's as good as mine ?

  156. I'm sorry, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just encrypted a movie I made. The decrypter only allows you to play the movie 3 times. As a key it uses any real number that the GNU MP Bignum library can process.

  157. Due to my irrational nature by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    I claim this

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    What?
  158. Re:Typical of liberals... by lilomar · · Score: 1

    I would say that at least 95% of us (just guessing on the number who don't drive and/or come from a country without speed limits) are criminals even if you don't count copyright infringement.

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  159. Re:Typical of liberals... by porpnorber · · Score: 1

    Of course you should be in jail for willfully, systematically and apparently proudly endangering pedestrians (and, indeed, other drivers).

    For using one device rather than another to play a film? That's ridiculous.

    So I fail to see your analogy.

    Oh, and by the way, imagine how much more annoying it is for the rest of us in Region 1 who get to sit through this stupid message about what the US government thinks is law. What gives the US the right to post US legal messages on TV screens in Canada, playing DVDs bought in Canada on equipment bought in Canada? D'oh! At least we don't see the War on Drugs messges anymore (is the War on Drugs over? Did you guys win?) We need a law that lets us charge the US back for the time wasted by these bizarre, misdirected and politically offensive messages!

  160. Re:Typical of liberals... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    One is assuming that the government doesn't already have a data-mining chip ...please watch where you choose to say what you know.

    Major problem with your statement: I don't live in the US. I live in a country that enjoys REAL freedom.... in latin america of all places. The government is so inefficient they'll never be able to enslave the masses like the US did.

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  161. It's not the number that they are protecting by ikioi · · Score: 1

    It's the secret that that number is the one they are using to encrypt DVDs. Of course they have no ownership over that number, nor are they even claiming to own it. They have no problem with you using it in a program or an equation or in whatever way you want, as long as you use the fact that that number is used to encrypt DVDs.

    1. Re:It's not the number that they are protecting by ikioi · · Score: 1

      Woops, that should read "as long as you DON'T use the fact that that number is used to encrypt DVDs".

      And by the way, I'm just as pissed off as anyone else that they encrypt DVDs and I'm all in favor of the DVD encryption being cracked. I want to be able to use my single DVD drive to watch my US movies and my UK movies. I believe that's well within my rights. I'm not defending their actions, only arguing that they are not claiming ownership of a number, only over the fact that the number is the secret of their encryption scheme. If they published that fact, they would have no claim. Similarly, if you publish that your number (which you receive from this service) was received from this service then you've given away the secret which the service gives you the right to protect and you've invalidated your own claim to your secret.

  162. Re:Typical of liberals... by zolaar · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, punchline forgets you!

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  163. Re:Typical of liberals... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    ps sorry about the italics, I forgot to turn them off because I'm too drunk...

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  164. Re: 96 51 0F ED DF EC 61 18 D5 19 7E E9 74 48 72 D by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

    I find it hilarious that the "Re: " prepended to the subject line effectively castrates your 128-bit number into a non-DMCA-protected 124-bit number by default.

  165. I can help by cooldev · · Score: 1

    Now that the cat is out of the bag, to counter this I am selling 128-bit IDs that I will guarantee to be unique (as in, not already in use) so that you don't risk infringing on somebody else's ID.

    I only have a limited supply, so act fast! Yours for only $1 each.

  166. A3 53 A9 5F 5E 1F 8C 03 FF B3 33 E5 88 F1 0B EA by rinkjustice · · Score: 1

    That's my 128-Bit integer, uh-huh. She's a proud beauty, ain't she?

  167. One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why? Why do I need this website to do it? I can easily generate a 128-bit AES Key, encrypt just about anything I have ever written, since US Copyright doesn't require me to register the work. (I do have works published and can be easily traced to me.) So not only would I own the copyright on the work, but I could then load the encrypted version to a website, and charge a fee for the key. If my key were to become known and published online, it would then violate the DMCA, and I would have everything this site offers, but I would be able to also claim copyright privileges to the written works.

    1. Re:One question by ngottlieb88 · · Score: 1

      You don't need it. It's just meant to be funny in light of recent events re: AACS key, particularly because you don't own the copyright to the poem. You pretty much don't own anything and yet can stop people from distributing a number.

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      --Nick
  168. Zero is ALL MINE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ha! I now own the 128-bit representation of the number 0. Which seems to imply that I own ALL representations of the number 0. No longer may you reference null in any of your programs, no longer may you mathematically express the concept of "nothing." And never again may you call someone a "zero"!

    I may have posted as Anonymous Coward, but use my number and you'll find my nice little name at the end of a DMCA notice with your name on it, too!

  169. Someone digged my #!!! They're gonna get it by ngottlieb88 · · Score: 1

    I sent a DMCA notification letter to digg.com to get them to remove a posting of my number. Let's see who they side with this time.

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    --Nick
  170. Fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least I own the capitalized version

  171. Viva! by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    Act one in the revolution will be the revocation of all warning labels.

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    Can you be Even More Awesome?!
  172. Re:My 128 bit number, to AACS programmers with lov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congratulations sick_soul, you have won this thread.

  173. heard of my compressed audio format? by l33td00d42 · · Score: 1

    in my format, 0 decompresses to Metallica "Unforgiven" and 1 decompresses to Metallica "Nothing Else Matters". so if you distribute the bit 0 or 1, you're distributing copyrighted material. and yer goin to jail and stuff. welcome to America.

  174. Can I just make my own haiku? by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1

    Content industry
    tries to win tech war with geeks.
    Stupid shit-for-brains!

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    You're using her as bait, Master!

  175. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > I go to movies. I pay to go to the movies. Why do I have to sit through a 5 minute sermon on how evil piracy is when I paid to get there? Then again, when I buy a DVD, why the hell should I be FORCED to watch trailers and nowadays even ads? So I rip it, and get my right of choice back.

    You have to sit through the sermon because that's the product you bought. If you don't like the product, don't buy it. It's really not that difficult.

    Try going into a restaurant, paying for your meal, then taking off your clothes and rubbing the food all over your self. You will find (injustice of injustices!) that the fact that you paid for your meal does not give you free reign. In fact, if you pay attention, you will find that almost every purchase you make comes with some limitations/constraints. The nice thing about capitalism is that, if enough people don't like one version of a product some enterprising individual will offer a service they do like (for instance, naked food rubbing restaurants)

    I suggest, if you are unhappy with the movies and DVDs you currently buy, that you but those items from a different vendor, one who doesn't give you sermons and doesn't force trailers on you. Of course, you could also just steal product from the vendors you don't like, and thereby make sure tha tenterprising individuals avoid you lke the plague because you will steal their goods too.

  176. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yay it worked. I got my own number:

    66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66

    Maybe I'll have it tattoed on my forehead.

  177. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And how many cars do you think Ford would sell if their cars did this? And how long until another vendor ate their lunch?

    Do you ever wonder, given how many people hate copy protection, why an enterprising studio hasn't sprung up, releasing their movies free of any restraints? Clearly many people would prefer to buy that kind of DVD. In fact, maybe you should start a company doing exactly that! You'd make a mint! All these noble, free spirited consumers just itching to fork over their money for a good, copy protection free DVD. Think of the profits!

  178. Depends on formatting by The+Monster · · Score: 1
    If you spell it out correctly...

    Error Five Oh Three
    Service Temporarily
    Unavailable.
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    [100% ISO 646 Compliant]
    SVM, ERGO MONSTRO.

  179. Re:Typical of liberals... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm an insensitive clod you insensitive...

    oh wait...

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    You're using her as bait, Master!

  180. Standing by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Can we start suing each over over these numbers and set some precedents? [Picks a random commentor on this story.] Hay gweihir, wanna meet as adversaries in court?

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    As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
  181. I, for one... by alexandreracine · · Score: 1

    ... welcome our new 2A 20 07 BA 26 9F 5C 29 3A E9 30 CB C1 65 69 49 overlord!

    Dont piss him off!

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    No sig for now.
  182. Ideas by Sloppy · · Score: 1
    1. Sue someone for DMCA violations
    2. (Just as interesting) Grant permission for people to bypass the access control for haiku you hold the copyright for, thereby muddling the waters on the "primary purpose" of distributing 128-bit keys.
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    As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
  183. mine!!! by saltmiser · · Score: 1

    D6499626857801B6065013E3645A6B75, it's mine fools!!

  184. do it to all of them by xokmillzo · · Score: 1

    WHy not simply make a program that does this to all possible integers and sew anyone who trys to use one of them IE when they come out with a new one of these for future DVD's

    1. Re:do it to all of them by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 1

      ...I'm really hoping that's satire and that you are, in fact, aware that "all possible integers" is an infinitely sized set (unless you place a boundary on it).

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  185. Sorry if I burst this bubble, but... by Arceliar · · Score: 1

    The DMCA says something along the lines of not applying to keys if they have "commercially significant uses other than to circumvent" and such.

    A 128-bit key is still relatively short compared to..say..the infinite number of decimal digits of an irrational number, such as Pi. Now, being an irrational number, Pi will eventually cycle through every finite length series of digits. So if you convert your # to decimal, it's EVENTUALLY going to be somewhere in pi (or in e or sqrt(2) or any other irrational).

    Now, I for one would say Pi and e we've got at least a few "commercially significant uses" by which to invalidate the ownership of these #'s. Or any sequence of #'s if you really wanted to stretch this line of thinking.

    More importantly, this is the only reason I've ever been able to justify memorizing digits of Pi. The fact that eventually any finite sequence will be expressed, one could look at Pi in binary and--eventually--come across any series of 1's and 0's of finite length.

    Meaning not only every possible encryption key, but all the porn that ever was, is, or will be, is contained in Pi.

    Or wont be... *shudders*

    1. Re:Sorry if I burst this bubble, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But love, thats not porn honest. I'm just calculating pi!

  186. Re:My 128 bit number, to AACS programmers with lov by Demerara · · Score: 1

    C5 A3 AB B2 96 0B DD 97 BE C9 44 3C C4 63 83 1F

    Who is this DCMA of whom you speak?

    Would she like to join us on the patio for drinks later?

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  187. Entertaining idea... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

    I'll be playing it in the Impossiball Lottery twice a week until it pays off. Now that's an entertaining thought.

    Suppose the number wins the lottery, but someone else played that number. You could argue that you own that number and that no one else should be allowed to play it and, therefore, you get the whole jackpot. If you forgot to fill out your lottery card that week and the number came up, you could sue to prevent other people from winning.

    Hmm...
  188. patent police! by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    Dear Sir,

    I have reviewed your stated copyright on the number 1 but the "instance method" has been patented together with the number 0. Hereby I ask you to cease and decist breaking our intellectual property. Remove all posts or pay 277 licenses which are $0.33 per instance. You have 13 days to take action.

    If not we will send the DMCA police to you and force you to sacrifice your firstborn.

    Toodeloo,

    Winston, Killumpf and Doofus lawyers inc.

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    --- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
  189. How large should a number be? by LS · · Score: 1

    For all of you that oppose the censorship of this number, but are for copyright, I'd like to know how you resolve the following contradiction. ALL information is just a number, and some numbers are larger than others. That DVD movie is really just a long binary number. How large does the number have to be before you can copyright it?

    LS

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    There is a fine line between being a cultivated citizen and being someone else's crop. - A. J. Patrick Liszkie
  190. Re:The answer, what's the question? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to go register "42".

    Then I will own the answer to life, the universe, and everything.


    Have we figured out the question yet?!?!

  191. dumb fucking idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Own your own integer...

    That's the dumbest fucking idea I've heard since I've been at the Internet.

  192. It's funny, but legally totally incorrect... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    AACS never tried to claim "copyrights" or "ownership" of this number.

    Someone has been misunderstanding the DMCA here, and what's so bad about it.

    They don't even need to own the copyrights for the number for it to be protected.

    And that is what people should complain about, if anything.

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    Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
  193. Not any more by Neeth · · Score: 1

    Even better: if you quote it, it becomes a string.

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    Yes, I am the one with the legendary sig.
  194. ip by jlebrech · · Score: 0

    isn't that just called an ipv6 address? everyone should be able to have their own?

  195. Re:Typical of liberals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's astonishing how many of you fucktards completely missed his joke.

  196. BAD F00D BAD C0FFEE BAD C0DE 1337 FACED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't dare to touch it!
    woot!

  197. More Interesting by ConfusedVorlon · · Score: 1

    wouldn't this be more interesting if you were to encrypt something with a much shorter number, say 5 or 9, and then to send DCMA notices to 'protect' that number.

  198. Re:Typical of liberals... by Peejeh · · Score: 1

    How many songs would there be for you to copy for free if the artists could get no money? How many books, movies, paintings, etc.? Some people would do it for the love of it, but no one would be able to do it for a living when anyone and everyone was free to copy as they liked. So no one makes money out of open source software then? Better tell Red Hat employees they're out of a job.
  199. Context, dear? by wild_berry · · Score: 1

    If I paid for the DVD on which the data is encrypted I should unquestionably have access to the tools necessary to decrypt it (for fair use backups, for example) regardless of whether I own the data or not
    Ownership of data? I guess you mean either authorship or copyright license. You'd be clumsy to have authorship of some data but not the tools to decrypt that data (but you might well be able to create it again). But as for copyright license, most of my discs have the license "All Rights Reserved", for which you need to convince a court of law that your use of the disc is consistent with the intent of the fair-use provisions. The Cliff Notes commentary of the DMCA text (which is all I've read 'cause I'm no lawyer) consists of the footnote, repeated, "Here, fair-use provisions are eroded." It concludes: "Here, fair-use provisions disappear entirely."

  200. RE: Shame on you by hcgpragt · · Score: 1

    A flawed logic, no less! He must be in Pon farr!!

  201. Let's just make it hard to everyone. by zanderredux · · Score: 1

    I'm claiming ownership of 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01. This should make life miserable for everyone!

  202. F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless you were going for a number that was almost but not quite identical to the famous one, this should be F90902119D74E35BD84156C5635688C0.

    Ouch. I really need to get that thing out of my head. :/

  203. Prior art by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 1

    I call prior art... using letters (a..z) is a mechanism of encrypting language in of itself...

    Each letter encodes a reference to a sound that can be de-crypted if you know "your ABCs"

    Some words however obviously use a different encoding method (ie "yatch")

    So although ROT-26 might be an approved DMCA cypher, someone else has first dibs on "circumvented their copy protection device"

  204. Re:Muahahhaa!!! I own all numbers!!!! by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1

    So, wherez the sourcecode?

  205. pry it i shall by POds · · Score: 1

    *yoink-F9090211749D5BE341D8C5565663C088*

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    Giving IE users a taste of their own medicine since 2005 - http://pods.-is-a-geek.net/
  206. 007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "At the same time, you cannot protect numbers. They do not belong to anybody."

    Tell that to James Bond.

  207. Isn't Rot13 enough? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, let's say it's not rot13, but rather, rot128 -- that is, every byte xor'd against 0x80. (I think, I'm a little fuzzy on binary and hex now.) That should make it nice and universal, symmetric, and something easy enough for everyone to know.

    For safety's sake, the following should be done on an encrypted partition, and you should still shred the files afterwards.

    Go take your favorite movie (DVD is easy, but high def if you can), rip it -- doesn't matter much how, raw bits would be especially insulting, but re-encode if you like. Take your shiny new DVD rip, add a note saying "Enjoy! And if anyone from the MPAA is reading, HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR DMCA NOW, YOU CUNTS? IT'S ILLEGAL TO READ THIS, I'LL SEE YOU IN COURT!!"

    Zip/rar it all up, so it's one file, to make it simple, and run that one file through rot0x80. Save the shiny new crypted file on your hard drive somewhere, maybe give it a .rot13 extension -- so you're not really revealing your key, but everyone knows what you mean -- and distribute it via P2P.

    Now, if everyone takes equal care when playing the movie -- and I imagine we could add rot0x80 support to mplayer/vlc, if you only did it on the media file itself -- then while I am not a laywer, I don't see how they could legally get any kind of conviction against you. Simply don't put the "key" in the players, and require the person to input it every time they play -- then, you can claim you didn't know (since the file was legal to redistribute, just not legal to open), and if they accuse you of piracy, you can immediately turn it around and accuse them of DMCA violations.

    Not really an original idea, mind you. I can't point to the person who first used it to encrypt The Number, thus making it illegal for the MPAA to stop its spread. But the point here is, legally, I don't see a way out of this unless they subpeona (which is why all the disk encryption), and you can get around that easily enough -- simply use a temporary partition/filesystem, and throw away the key when you're done with that particular disc. In fact, leave the machine on and generate a random number, so you can truthfully say that you never did know the key, meaning they have absolutely no evidence you did something wrong, except the glaringly obvious bit that they're not allowed to use.

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    1. Re:Isn't Rot13 enough? by drew · · Score: 1

      Well, for starters, there's the fact that "rot128" isn't really a copyright protection measure if you're not the copyright holder, so they wouldn't be violating anything by "circumventing" it.

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      If I don't put anything here, will anyone recognize me anymore?
    2. Re:Isn't Rot13 enough? by noamsml · · Score: 1

      But he IS the copyright holder of the note he added to the movie.

  208. My 200 numbers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The following are my 200 128-bit numbers. Please make sure you never ever violate my rights by posting/using them. If you do, I will sue.

    89 54 FF 42 1D 07 2D 0C ED F4 62 DE 49 28 3F DB - 10 1D 5F F8 5C 77 3B EA F5 C6 30 89 EB CE 5F B0
    69 6F 36 06 49 A8 80 C2 4B 32 ED 09 AF 18 61 EB - CB CE 30 D0 CE 11 AA F4 03 C6 6B 77 A6 41 FD 7D
    7C 69 C5 C9 53 82 D4 8F E3 C2 3B BD 73 68 AB 3E - DF 03 02 21 DE 36 35 BB 9A 8E 8A 03 09 2F 88 43
    E7 BB A1 6D E4 CA AC BB B1 D1 73 E2 29 D8 44 7D - 63 3A B8 05 1D 81 66 28 50 2C E5 F8 D4 B3 29 FE
    52 B5 EE 9C 0A 81 AF 45 39 36 E8 62 08 79 F5 91 - A8 F3 F8 B9 A0 F1 FC DF C3 F0 62 01 6D C8 9E 2F
    23 87 3A 6B 88 85 25 AA 60 48 6C 2C ED 50 BE CE - E1 1A D7 14 49 40 02 A0 EA 96 F2 BF D0 A1 6C 75
    7A 1D 1D 7A 30 B1 57 42 6F C5 AF 70 DE 84 CB D7 - 50 F4 84 D0 6B E5 0F 02 E9 5D FF E8 5D 73 DC B4
    74 23 60 3D BC 82 EF 39 3C 7F CE 74 4C 5E 1A 9C - 62 7C 4D D7 51 B2 01 89 75 82 43 7C 5D 3C F9 9B
    15 D5 C2 83 E8 5E B7 F4 09 2C 62 44 EF 69 F8 F7 - 21 F0 29 10 8E B0 90 13 03 70 DF EF FE F7 5D 66
    15 E9 06 5C 42 F1 99 E0 1D D4 60 0E F9 1C FE 2E - 9B 62 B3 56 7D 4C 8A 7F EB 7F BB 8F 9E 16 C7 C4
    49 1D FE 62 53 EA 16 47 86 9D 6C 44 3D 9B 10 3B - F5 82 0E 85 75 CD 23 A6 AE 06 58 65 20 50 C6 F6
    F7 B3 B5 00 46 C7 4E 7A 29 19 5F 5F 49 DC F5 D9 - 06 24 F1 A1 70 2E 7F AA 93 2A CF 7C 9E 88 6E 3C
    69 F2 29 02 FE AD 48 96 98 CD 26 8D 42 65 35 EA - E0 1F A8 02 EC C6 41 F5 E3 CF 7D 7A 30 67 23 5D
    F0 C5 FF 0D 15 90 5B E3 F5 F4 B5 9A 6A E6 F0 73 - 76 4D 4D A5 80 9B 63 76 97 D1 0D 52 15 03 58 52
    33 F0 D0 2A 96 BB 34 FD 23 2D A7 B2 74 EA 33 7A - 2E 62 80 F6 0F C5 0F 6D 78 80 7B 4D AF DD D3 AB
    92 C0 AF 22 0E B9 E0 23 4C 20 12 04 06 E6 82 47 - 41 DC 53 A7 BA 32 B0 3E 97 38 E7 91 8E F1 37 62
    05 66 1F CE 01 EB 71 AF B5 18 33 0A 82 3F 14 BE - D0 DF 03 CA 22 AA 26 CB 2F 6B 3C 3C EC 0F 2C 54
    37 A4 F1 53 1B 98 85 6C B6 29 AD B1 75 1C 7D 5E - E7 1D FE E4 21 88 B6 3B 48 7F 43 21 68 74 05 96
    8E 09 0A 00 8A 1E D8 34 EB F7 E2 6D 4A 2B ED 68 - 00 15 28 25 35 86 30 1B 53 5C 31 76 F6 75 4C 97
    0A 56 C4 60 9A 02 D1 02 15 2F 3B 90 7E DD 3B 29 - B0 55 C8 CC 56 13 F6 E9 9D D1 D5 D2 1F 31 8E 4E
    CF 1B 0B CB E2 3F A2 E4 7D C6 D2 E2 CC B5 DA 63 - 43 DC 14 5C 28 0A C3 33 34 DB DB EB F6 F9 58 E2
    13 0F C4 79 9D 5D AD A2 68 77 C2 6C D0 4D FF 87 - 6A 27 31 6F 04 AD 98 03 20 F2 88 D0 B3 47 FD C5
    1B D3 81 8E E1 86 B8 F2 AB 81 E2 55 92 AB D1 B7 - 54 05 30 35 28 6B 37 9B 64 0F FE 94 7E 4A 7A 35
    9E 44 AD 32 0D 1F F1 33 DA 2A 7D AE 22 94 83 5B - C8 C5 2A 4A D4 98 31 00 40 1E 55 1E 00 53 EC 03
    D3 2A 0D 33 93 33 78 CF F6 A6 8E A0 02 E0 4A 63 - 0D C7 60 DF 36 2D 7B CF AF 22 B0 1C 13 D9 C4 1A
    05 5B 5C EC 33 3F DE 3F 2D 36 AE ED E2 65 71 2E - 03 06 E0 91 38 E4 33 9E D3 4D 7B DE 1D 59 58 C6
    27 0D CF 8B 6B 39 4A BD A3 41 B8 B3 B6 90 2F 0F - 53 6B B2 E6 2D 9A 28 5C 9D 34 3D 85 49 54 68 60
    EE 44 24 DD 77 56 4B B6 56 9D AD D2 B6 6F 27 B3 - 99 39 0F FA 06 75 D7 3D 51 FB C9 5C 06 E6 86 11
    DF 2A F9 1A F2 47 1F 6C 39 75 B6 28 8F 9F AA A1 - 5C 10 F9 C8 1C 71 83 3D 51 0A 39 2A 11 19 8D 64
    73 9A 01 0F 63 6A D1 BB 3F 64 D9 AB 0A FB AC 46 - 80 FA B3 51 57 66 60 80 55 35 94 E3 23 FB C7 69
    E8 FA C5 8E C4 42 AC A5 C0 D6 5A 92 D9 C2 86 9F - EF 7E C2 C8 99 83 43 5D 0B BA 95 02 47 A9 66 BE
    8E 34 8A 3A E2 D1 F9 8C A7 95 55 CC 45 11 9A 2A - 53 EF D0 5A 0C A2 E4 DB 55 35 AA 32 85 FF 9E C1
    CE 9F F0 5C 9B 8C C2 72 F9 86 C4 D1 91 1E B2 EB - 97 DA C7 57 ED 28 1C 18 D9 99 30 9A 41 B4 49 FE
    28 E2 CB EA A1 45 33 D2 F2 EC 20 22 FC A5 9E 71 - 57 35 6F 88 84 FA F4 A5 FD B7 D2 00 68 34 BD E8
    DF 67 61 E4 A9 E0 03 38 19 4C 7A 6A 22 1E 0D BA - 17 1D 2B 42 C1 F2 31 AB 16 6D 1E CA E0 DE EC 86
    FC 61 4D 4E 7E DA 67 5F AB 91 06 40 9A 4D 1C 55 - 02 65 09 3B 8B B9 B1 42 BD A4 FF AA 98 6E 80 EB
    ED 73 65 5B 01 42 7D 0F B9 FA 2A FF 2F F2 2B 56 - 4D 44 A1 F5 B3 D1 82 B6 14 A5 5D 75 2C 36 86 25
    3B BB 71 E1 09 A5 83 43 AA 3D E0 FC 69 23 83 E4 - 5D 1F 4C A4 8D F3 E5 F0 AE 1C 33 D1 16 4B 38 91
    7E 5D 8B 97 FD 3A B7 2B 46 C7 C2 0F

    1. Re:My 200 numbers... by nikostheater · · Score: 1

      Your 200 numbers? Thank God my number is not in your list! My number is 24 94 6F 3E 14 AD BE E6 A5 5B D8 0E 10 BD 0D 43. Don't steal it please. I if you want to use it please sent me a 20000$ via paypal. Thanks!

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      Bill Gates said:"I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine" My favorite number is 09 F9 11 02 9D 74
  209. Fictional novell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jake M. Brown woke up early in the morning, the time was 07:14 and the year was 2076.
    He went into his living room to watch some movies on his HD-GRD player which he had bought at the Moolo Supermarket, the encryption key for processing the HD-GRD disc was 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0, and that is what he used to decrypt his HD-GRD disc.

  210. Ok, question: by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    What if I distribute a very simple jigsaw puzzle, with two pieces. One has 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0, and the other says "Processing key for AACS". All one has to do is put the pieces together, but I don't include the instructions.

    Does that mean that it's perfectly legal to distribute said puzzle, but not legal for people to put it together?

    Couldn't you do similar things all over the place? For instance, in the first paragraph of this post, I had The Number, and I had What It Is, but I never said or implied that the two go together in any way. But I mean, what about the front/back of a T-Shirt?

    It's an old-ish legal hack. For instance, the GPL was meant to prevent things like the nvidia drivers currently in my kernel. However, nvidia was free to develop these drivers in-house, so long as they didn't distribute modified binaries. And they were free to distribute their own patches, so long as the actual patching/compilation is done on my machine, so that the modified source/binary is never actually distributed (and thus never comes under the GPL).

    So, does that work here? Simply distribute the number, and enough hints as to what it is, but require people to figure it out on their own, even if a blind person could see it?

    --
    Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
  211. Primes? by chrysrobyn · · Score: 1

    I thought the whole thing was that it was a 128 bit prime, because factoring out smaller numbers reduced the effectiveness of the cipher. Wouldn't it therefore be more interesting to find 128 bit primes? Certainly it would be possible to publish a list of all prime numbers with 16 and fewer digits, even if the computational power required to do so would be high.

  212. Re:Typical of liberals... by shystershep · · Score: 1

    Did I say software? It amazes me how people focus solely on software when arguing against copyright, although they don't restrict they're arguments just to software but want to eliminate all copyrights.

    Software is a special case because, like Red Hat, you can sell service. What's the profit model for a novelist or singer? You spend months or years writing a book, then what? Publishing houses would be out of business or only sell books at cost, paying the author nothing because (1) they can just take what the author wrote, and (2) if they bothered paying, they'd be at a competitive disadvantage to the other publishing houses that can now take that work without having paid anything. That leaves putting it online and asking for donations. You know why we don't see anyone doing that already (except for low-quality, unpublishable material)? It's because doesn't work; my point was that there would be no such thing as professional artists, only hobbyists, because there would be no way to support yourself through your work and therefore you cannot devote all of your time to it.

    --
    The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer. - Albert Einstein
  213. Feeding the beast by cpghost · · Score: 1

    I go to movies. I pay to go to the movies. Why do I have to sit through a 5 minute sermon on how evil piracy is when I paid to get there?

    Why? Because you paid for it! "Pirated" copies of the movies are often unencumbered and have this crud removed (unless the guys doing the ripping kept it in for laughs)...

    If you keep feeding the beast, the beast will keep growing... All this MAFIAA circus that's going on is being paid in full by paying consumers. Every time you go to a movie, or buy a DVD, or a song etc...; a small amount of your money gets diverted to sue 14 years olds or penniless grannies, and a bigger amount of that to keep feeding the same politicians who brought you DMCA/WIPO-like laws with more and worse of the same already in the pipeline.

    --
    cpghost at Cordula's Web.
  214. uh oh ... 503 error by UID30 · · Score: 1

    I guess they ran out of 128 bit numbers. :-/

    --
    "Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte
  215. Minus 1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't we say?

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1

    minus ONE.

  216. Re:My 128 bit number, to AACS programmers with lov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    B0 BA FE 77 DE AD C0 DE DE AD CA FE BA BE 58 17

  217. Eben Moglen got this right years ago by mav[LAG] · · Score: 1

    ...in his essay Anarchism Triumphant. I remember when I first read it sniggering at all the hooplah about numbers that could be copyrighted. But he was right after all:


    Like everything else in the digital world, music as seen by a CD player is mere numeric information; a particular recording of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony recorded by Arturo Toscanini and the NBC Symphony Orchestra and Chorale is (to drop a few insignificant digits) 1276749873424, while Glenn Gould's peculiarly perverse last recording of the Goldberg Variations is (similarly rather truncated) 767459083268.

    Oddly enough, these two numbers are "copyrighted." This means, supposedly, that you can't possess another copy of these numbers, once fixed in any physical form, unless you have licensed them. And you can't turn 767459083268 into 2347895697 for your friends (thus correcting Gould's ridiculous judgment about tempi) without making a "derivative work," for which a license is necessary.

    At the same time, a similar optical storage disk contains another number, let us call it 7537489532. This one is an algorithm for linear programming of large systems with multiple constraints, useful for example if you want to make optimal use of your rolling stock in running a freight railroad. This number (in the U.S.) is "patented," which means you cannot derive 7537489532 for yourself, or otherwise "practice the art" of the patent with respect to solving linear programming problems no matter how you came by the idea, including finding it out for yourself, unless you have a license from the number's owner.

    Then there's 9892454959483. This one is the source code for Microsoft Word. In addition to being "copyrighted," this one is a trade secret. That means if you take this number from Microsoft and give it to anyone else you can be punished.

    Lastly, there's 588832161316. It doesn't do anything, it's just the square of 767354. As far as I know, it isn't owned by anybody under any of these rubrics. Yet.

    --
    --- Hot Shot City is particularly good.
  218. Just do ROT-13 twice by Xocet_00 · · Score: 1

    If I super encrypt my data by using ROT-13 twice then that's a valid encryption technique, yes? Coincidentally this is functionally identical to ROT-26. So then it IS covered under the DMCA, right?

  219. One integer to RULE THEM ALL!!! by bratwiz · · Score: 1


    Actually, when you stop to consider it, given that everything in digital form is ultimately a number-- if everyone gets busy and registers those numbers, sooner or later ANYTHING the RIAA or MPAA attempts to communicate will be in violation of the DMCA since it will ultimately be contained within some combination of integers owned by vigilant slashdotters... So hurry up, get those numbers registered! Put an END to the RIAA and MPAA. Finally the hour is at hand-- we have the power, and we're pissed off enough to weild it...

    One integer to RULE THEM ALL!!!

    (Oh yeah, obligatory: Fuck the RIAA)

  220. My precious by lenart · · Score: 1

    I've got it. My very own Integer! 6F 0C 17 78 B1 20 EB 33 00 35 9E 61 81 C8 17 7D If I run it through a heavy decryption protocol and my processor heats up it changes to: One integer to encrypt is all, One integer to protect them, One integer to decrypt again, And in the courtroom sew them

  221. They're cursed. You know that, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The numbers, they're cursed.

    04 08 15 16 23 42 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

    ABC, come and get them. They are mine now.

  222. 03 BB D6 15 AB B3 F0 29 D8 61 01 6A CD CD 41 84 by Count_Froggy · · Score: 1

    Mine!

    --
    If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I? If not now, when?
  223. Re:We WILL see about that Krabs !!! by jimbojw · · Score: 1

    deadbeefb100d1sbadf00d4acafebabe

  224. Re:We WILL see about that Krabs !!! by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    No problem: Encrypt something in a way that any key with a given number of one-bits will work in decrypting it (for example, the first step of the algorithm is counting the one-bits in the key, and the rest only depends of that number). Now you only need 129 encrypted texts to cover the whole range of 128-bit keys. Note that you can simply take one text and encrypt it 129 times. I'd suggest as encryption method to add the number of ones in the key to every byte of the text to encrypt. As additional security matter, the bytes are xored with 0xff before the adding occurs (this also ensures that even the key 0 will alter the text).

    --
    The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  225. The comments have the encrypted haiku by abb3w · · Score: 1
    ...if you care to check the source:

    <html><header><title>You Own an Integer</title>
    </header>
    <body>
    <h5> 44 67 DF 9B 0E C2 38 20 18 EE 1E 05 6F 49 CB 31</h5>
    <!-- comment
    Here is the ciphertext: 1302FFF479AC1849769A7B620A3BB81D6448FFC86FBB4B0059 AF5D564F058A1F6448FFC261B7184379803E6A1827EB5E2A02 FFEF61AD16
    -->
    </body></html>

    1302FFF4 - 79AC1849 - 769A7B62 - 0A3BB81D - 6448FFC8 - 6FBB4B00 - 59AF5D56 - 4F058A1F - 6448FFC2 - 61B71843 - 79803E6A - 1827EB5E - 2A02FFEF - 61AD16 (ciphertext)
    4467DF9B - 0EC23820 - 18EE1E05 - 6F49CB31 - 4467DF9B - 0EC23820 - 18EE1E05 - 6F49CB31 - 4467DF9B - 0EC23820 - 18EE1E05 - 6F49CB31 - 4467DF9B - 0EC238
    (key)
    5765204F - 776E2069 - 6E746567 - 6572732C - 202F2053 - 61797320 - 41414353 - 204C412E - 202F2059 - 6F752063 - 616E206F - 776E206F - 6E652074 - 6F6F2E
    (ascii hex)
    We[SP]o - wn[SP]i - nteg - ers, - [SP]/[SP]S - ays[SP] - AACS - [SP]LA. - [SP]/[SP]Y - ou[SP]c - an[SP]o - wn[SP]o - ne[SP]t - oo.

    Note that the line breaks of the poem (haiku copyright 2007 by Edward W. Felten) are encoded by a space-slash-space, rather than some manner of CR/LF combination.

    --
    //Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
  226. I'm claiming 128 by Wolfger · · Score: 1

    This article is now in violation of the DMCA.

  227. 42 by stocke2 · · Score: 1

    I hereby copyright the number 42. now I own the answer to life, the uiverse and everything

    --
    A Smith & Wesson beats four aces -- Murphy's Law of Poker
  228. wii? by tepples · · Score: 1

    wii rzreq gutew mxa lxuty qbiu wph nhid dqo.

    Now, I can send takedown notices to everybody who posts pi. No, that'd be Nintendo's job. "Wii" is a trademark of Nintendo.
  229. Re:Typical of liberals... by DavidTC · · Score: 1

    Do you ever wonder, given how many people hate copy protection, why an enterprising studio hasn't sprung up, releasing their movies free of any restraints? Clearly many people would prefer to buy that kind of DVD. In fact, maybe you should start a company doing exactly that! You'd make a mint! All these noble, free spirited consumers just itching to fork over their money for a good, copy protection free DVD. Think of the profits!

    Um, gee, could it be because the entertainment industry owns the means of production, owns the distribution channels, and is a cartel? If you operate outside the MPAA...have fun getting on store shelves or in movie theaters. Or even a rating.

    Your question is rather akin to asking 'If everyone thinks the speed limits are too low, then why hasn't a competing set of roads sprung up?'. Well, a) that would be very difficult to set up, and b) they're not needed because everyone can violate the speed limit with impunity.

    --
    If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
  230. My Personal Number by TheRealAnonymousCowa · · Score: 1

    I'm copyrighting the number -273.15

  231. A part of a larger part is still a part by vinn01 · · Score: 1


    They complain that the secret number is a "component or part thereof that is primarily designed, produced, or marketed for the purpose of circumventing"

    If the secret number is a part of the circumvention system, any part of the secret number is also a part of the circumvention system.

    Therefore, *all* numbers (and letters) which are part of the secret number are also covered as being a "component or part ..for the purpose of circumventing"

    My secret number is (0-9) and (A-F, a-f)

    All your numbers belong to me...

  232. My own poem by Mikros · · Score: 1

    Sear oh Nein? F Nein Won won sear oh two nein Dee. Sven for E-tree; Fife be Dee Ate. For Won? Fife syx see fife, Syx tree fife syx. Eite ate see sear oh!

  233. BC 1B 64 4A 8D DE 49 E8 C3 7D CC EE 1A AD EE F5 by Rhett's+Dad · · Score: 1

    My only question now is, should I use that as a boy's name or a girl's name... *** ducks flying kitchen crockery projectile from loving wife *** CRB

    --
    Let me introduce you to my very own DMCA-protected encryption key: BC 1B 64 4A 8D DE 49 E8 C3 7D CC EE 1A AD EE
  234. 5Q 09 7S O4 60 O8 SO OQ Q0 2O 6N N3 S2 S6 NO PN by roguegramma · · Score: 1

    I actually think context matters.
    A number should only be copyrighted when the context helps to use the number.

    DMCA takedown notices should be void if there is only the number presented, without context that allows to understand and use it as a circumvention device..

    --
    Hey don't blame me, IANAB
  235. Re:My 128 bit number, to AACS programmers with lov by Xentor · · Score: 1

    Hahaha, beautiful!

    I'd mod you up if I could.

    --
    "The amount of intelligence on this planet is a constant. The population is growing." -Cole's Axiom
  236. 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63 - this is how my encrypted haiku comes out - same as..

    what a coincidence. Sorry! Guess we'll have the share that baby

  237. I got 4 8 15 16 23 42 .... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

    Is that a bad thing?? =)

    --
    WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
  238. I'm taking 0x0...20... by SmurfButcher+Bob · · Score: 1

    ...and issuing a license agreement to use it. I think I'll prohibit the truncation of any leading 00s, or casting, or anything else via license agreement. Screw unicode etc, I'll teach you the meaning of "multibyte".

    And also 0x0...3A2D28. Then I'm gonna sue Despair.com, along with every AOL user on the planet. Especially since Despair is selling these circumvention devices. Skylarov got off easy.

    And you know, it seems to me that Metallica CDs might be trafficking my number, stegged in some of their music files (no doubt in an illegal 8 or 16 bit format). I'm gonna have to take them down.

    (end of joke)
    Back to reality, it makes me wonder... what if someone trademarked that AACS number? Heh.

    --

    help me i've cloned myself and can't remember which one I am

  239. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    Not only didn't I help draft it, I never agreed to it. Take a second and try to figure who devised what should be taught in those "civics classes". ZOMG1111!!one!!! the government. You might want to take a step back from those and realize rights are natural, not "granted" by the government or the constitution. I read Locke, now you may want to read Spooner, you might be able to understand that my contribution entails more than "copytheft$ sux00rz"

    --
    \u262D = \u5350
  240. Why 128 bit? Use the AACS IP Address... by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

    Why not encrypt something using the IP address values of the AACS site? It's not a 128 bit number, but you could then send a C&D to get the number pulled from the DNS servers...

  241. 00 AD AB 1F 6B E6 08 CC 5A C8 41 05 28 37 C6 70 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No, you're right. I (or at least, the AC I claim to be) had at least two really dumb mistakes that (being an AC without an account) I couldn't go back and fix. As a "DailyWTF/WorseThanFailure" exercise, see if you can find them.

    text = "Advanced Access Content System"
    ordinals = [ord(char) for char in text]
    print ordinals
    total = 0
    for i in range(0,len(ordinals)):
        val = pow(2,i) * ordinals[i]
        total = total + val
     
    print total
    hex = hex(total)
    print hex
    Here's another stab at it where we ignore the full expressible ASCII range of numbers, symbols, etc... although still with spaces and cases.

    import string
     
    text = "Advanced Access Content System"
    possvalues = string.ascii_letters+" "
    ordinals = [possvalues.index(x) for x in text]
    ordinals.reverse()
    print ordinals
     
    total = 0
    indexes = range(0,len(ordinals))
    for i in indexes:
        power = pow(len(possvalues),i)
        ordval = ordinals[i]
        total = total + (power * ordval)
     
    print total
    hex = hex(total)
    print hex
    Resulting in (tweaked for lameness filters):
    07 07 E1 0D 14 B3 C5 58 30 7A 9E 1A 3F 62 F1 EE 27 1A B5 DC A1 E9

    Still a bit big. With a variation that ignores case...
    84 F0 E1 74 AD 60 48 E2 E8 95 9A 3E 63 E1 FB C7 07

    Alas, still 17 bytes. Let's strip spaces as well.

    import string
     
    text = "Advanced Access Content System"
    text = text.lower()
    text = text.replace(' ','')
    possvalues = string.ascii_lowercase
    ordinals = [possvalues.index(x) for x in text]
    ordinals.reverse()
    print ordinals
     
    total = 0
    indexes = range(0,len(ordinals))
    for i in indexes:
        power = pow(len(possvalues),i)
        ordval = ordinals[i]
        total = total + (power * ordval)
     
    print total
    hex = hex(total)
    print hex
    Ahah! 15 bytes! So, finally:
    00 AD AB 1F 6B E6 08 CC 5A C8 41 05 28 37 C6 70

    My key. MINE! :P
  242. 128 bit integers remind me a lot of by JCOTTON · · Score: 1
    the way fingerprints are encoded in the law enforcement databases. Basically, you and every one who has ten fingerprints (or less) already "owns" a 128 bit integer.

    "Hello, world". "Hello, Jerry"

  243. Re:Typical of liberals... by shystershep · · Score: 1

    I see. No point trying to argue with someone who believes anarchy is a workable philosophy. I wasted both of our time. HAND

    --
    The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer. - Albert Einstein
  244. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    Funnily Hans Herman Hoppe made the point that only anarchists can coherently argue :)
    However since you decided not arguing with me it must mean that

    a) You believe anarchists are not able to respect the rules of presenting coherent arguments in a discussion, will be dishonest, or try to use force on you => I won't do that

    b) You believe anarchism is so flawed it should be obvious that is pointless arguing against it => in that case there is probably an "obvious" argument you can oppose anarchism that will close the debate.

    --
    \u262D = \u5350
  245. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    I can choose not to disclose that information, I can choose to disclose that information under a NDA although only the initial discloser will be liable then since he is the only one bound by contract.

    --
    \u262D = \u5350
  246. Mine I say by Braedley · · Score: 1

    8D 16 F3 5B C4 54 DE 34 1D 2F 5A D9 5F 0C 92 D5

  247. Re:Typical of liberals... by shystershep · · Score: 1

    Not at all; my last post was pointlessly antagonistic, and I apologize for that.

    We are too far apart in our beliefs and our views on the nature of man. As an aside, your view is probably much more optimistic than mine, because the way I understand it functional anarchy requires individuals to respect one another's rights and independence. Based on what I believe to be human nature, I believe that any anarchistic society would either degenerate into Lord of the Flies savagery or else would evolve some form of governance and no longer be anarchistic. (By 'society' here I don't mean any sort of coherent group, just individuals living in unavoidable proximity to one another.)

    What I am trying to get at is that arguing about copyrights would by pointless, because there is no common point of reference. I accused you earlier of avoiding the issue by defining society the way you did, but we would be talking at cross purposes unless we did define society . . . and laws, government, the nature of property, rights of man, etc. We could debate any of those issues* but it would probably be months before we could lay enough groundwork to rationally argue something like copyright which depends on so many other, more basic, premises. Without that background, I say copyrights are good and necessary even if not in their present form, you say copyrights aren't a valid concept (or something to that effect), and that's as far as we can get.


    *And you probably would win if we debated. One of my undergrad degrees is in history, but in no particular specialty (ranging from pre-history to mid-20th century and covering America, Europe, the middle east, Japan, etc.) and whatever political and general philosophy I picked up was incidental or the result of reading on the side for curiosity. Meaning that you probably know far more about anarchy than I do about any counter-arguments.

    --
    The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer. - Albert Einstein
  248. Re:Typical of liberals... by servognome · · Score: 1

    I can choose not to disclose that information, I can choose to disclose that information under a NDA although only the initial discloser will be liable then since he is the only one bound by contract.
    Sometimes you don't have a choice whether or not to disclose information when that information is collected by somebody else. Without privacy laws your health information is not protected, because your doctor is the one collecting it. Also, how are NDA's any different from copyright in terms of restricting something that is not scarce? Would it be better that instead of copyright, the **AA uses an NDA/EULA or other contracts to restrict information?
    --
    D6 63 0D 70 89 81 BB 8E 7B 7C 5F 5D 54 EA AB 73
  249. True, but: by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    How do you prove it?

    I mean, couldn't I claim, for instance, that I only decrypted the DVD to make sure that it really is something they have the copyright to, and that I was allowed to decrypt it to find that much out?

    But they've created this perfect catch 22. No matter what the reason (AFAIK), you cannot decrypt a copyrighted work, so I just have to claim it was copyrighted.

    So I can simply say that I'm the copyright holder of the super-secret stuff encrypted here. Their only way around is if law enforcement is allowed to break the law (and read the file anyway), but how, exactly, do they get a search warrant for it?

    There's an old dillema here, and it revolves around unreasonable searches and seizures. If evidence is gained from an unreasonable search, it's invalid. For instance, if a cop pulls a guy over and searches his trunk without a warrant (or permission), and finds a dead body in there, and arrests the guy and charges him with murder -- easy dismissal. They know about the body because of their own illegal search, so the body may not be used as evidence -- with nothing else, they can't convict him.

    The dillema is, you know the guy is guilty, but if you let him be convicted, the cops now know that, even at considerable risk to their own career, they can always do an illegal search and know the guy will be put away. The law as it stands means no cop will EVER do a search without at least getting a warrant, or some sort of Patriot Act protection, because they know it won't work -- you have to do things by the book.

    So it comes back to the same thing: you know I'm guilty, but you have no legal way of proving it. Your only real recourse would be downloading it yourself -- in which case, I could simply put in my upload notice that no one should ever download this, ever, meaning the only thing you could legally do is get people for pirating MY stuff (and I can simply choose not to press charges).

    I don't know if the law really works this way, and I doubt it does in practice. What I'm hoping is that some judge sees the absurdity of the DMCA and strikes it down, even if I go down with it.

    Unfortunately, I neither have the balls nor the resources to do this myself. (I don't actually have access to any DVDs not already on P2P networks anyway.)

    --
    Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
  250. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    Your doctor agrees not to disclose the information. If he releases your information (or you find someone has it) you can sue him for breach of contract. The **AA can't simply do that because only the guys ripping and sharing CDs are liable, the people copying from the copier don't infringe on anybody's rights.

    --
    \u262D = \u5350
  251. Re:Typical of liberals... by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    Apology accepted.

    What do you know about my opinion on the nature of man? Morality, natural law, requires that rights be respected, this is always true, in a statist society or in an anarchist one. The important question is: by what mean are those rights to be enforced. The statist construct offers the idea of a geographical monopoly of law enforcement, I myself reject the morality of such a monopoly and its efficiency. I strive to derive my conclusions from a few trivial axiomatic observations on man's nature. If you are suspicious about the morality of some men, as you should, why would you advocate putting men in power? Power corrupts and only effective check and balances can provide a truly free society. It is my opinion that anarchy offer better check and balances than constitutional democracy by granting the legitimate right to ignore the state.

    Lord of the flies doesn't deal with men but children. You'll notice that them having a state don't do them any real good.

    One problem with copyrights (after legitimacy) is that their infringement is a consensual crime. When a theft, a rape is perpetuated, the victim is generally going to complain... however, if I share a music file with someone, we are both happy with this, the producer doesn't know about it, he cannot report the transaction. There is no effective way to enforce copyrights - this is more obvious every day - ... there's little point in arguing for copyright law when the law is doomed to fail.

    Since you describe yourself as a geek of jurisprudence and you seem to care about the constitution, I think you will highly enjoy Spooner's "The constitution of no authority" (http://www.lysanderspooner.org/notreason.htm#no6)

    --
    \u262D = \u5350
  252. Can I have two one bit string? by kentsin · · Score: 0

    128 is too much, 1 is enough.

  253. That's no phone number, it's my key. Takedown! by ehartwell · · Score: 1

    Some of those random 128-bit numbers are random 128 bit numbers like 20 22 93 19 66, 81 89 95 66 00. Even the crudest search shows the MPAA is broadcasting those top secret encryption keys all over the world - such as on their contact us web page - under the flimsy pretense that they're phone numbers. The true owners of those numbers should use DMCA takedown notices to shut down the MPAA's web sites. And their members' web sites. And their lawyers' web sites. And their offices. And demand they redact all those publications. And all that media. Oh, the humanity! And the business cards. Won't someone think of the business cards?