Since solipsism is not a tangible thing and all we could rely on is the testimony or arguments of one who claims to be one, "beyond any doubt", or even beyond most doubt is impossible, so "sufficiently for all practical purposes" will have to do.
Wanna bet that ACs who don't even RTFA are uninformed idiots who have zero idea what is going on? Troll.
I'd like to see a study revealing how many ACs spout partisan, kneejerk reaction nonsense about American politics and likely don't even live in/come from the States, judging by the spelling of "favour".
Touche. Omitted more out of my own unfortunate ignorance than anything else. Having used both DB2 (quite some time ago) and MySQL, I am more aware of their relative merits. How does Postgresql do in scaling? How many CPUs/cores/threads can it take advantage of in one instance?
Both excellent points. I was looking at it differently. SUN and IBM are mostly peers and direct competitors across their offering spectrum (HW, SW, global services). The nearest comparison I could think of was DEC->Compaq->HP.
"No, man, I haven't seen him since last night when he hooked up with that really huuuge white chick. why?"
"Dude, you should have seen it. He was goin' at it with her right out in the open, and all of a sudden she started shaking and smoking. I heard him scream 'YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!', there was a huge flash, she flew away, and that was that last I ever heard from him."
I don't recall seeing IBM ever swallow a company this big, so I'll look at DEC and Compaq for comparison. Lots of DEC gear was incorporated into the Compaq line over time. Stuff that eventually went away like the Alpha (poor soul, we hardly knew ye...) took years. Even when HP acquired Compaq, old remnants of DEC were floating around, like Tru64 UNIX, even though there was stuff that competed with it.
My guess is that IF this sale happens, IBM will keep the status quo for several years as they gradually incorporate SUN tech into IBM badged HW/SW. IBM has a history of contributing to OSS and making money anyway, much of it through Professional Services. I hope they continue.
Can you imagine a CPU with the cores & threads of a Niagara and the clock speed of a Power6? Or a OSS database like MySQL with the vertical scalability of DB2?
I always thought they would end up being bought by Fujitsu before anyone else. I figure the 100% premium for their stock is :
a) a jumping-off point for talks... the talks are not yet final, and IBM is neither stupid, or in the mood to spend money it doesn't have to.
b) because the value of Sun's stock has more to do with their earnings than with the value of their IP, which is likely what IBM is really after.
Because if you are a networking hardware vendor looking to crash the server hardware vendors' party, you don't engineer your product with yesterday's technology. Cisco is in a cash position where they could sell this as a loss leader to get their foot in the door, or at least until the price on the components come down as the Nehalem becomes more competitive.
Not to mention, the cost of the cpu components themselves is a relatively small portion of the overall cost of a system this size. Maybe in a low-end sub-$2k 1RU server, the Nehalem won't make sense right away, but I think it's probably a good fit here.
It also seems a bit unclear as to why Sun continue to develop and produce the SPARC
Because there is a demand for it, and it does things that x86 doesn't. 8 cores * 8 threads = awesome virtualization abilities. The ability for SPARCs to scale up in a linear fashion to > 100 cores in a single general-purpose SMP box positions it in the high-end datacenter realm, where PPC is, but not x86. Plus, SUN isn't going it alone. Fujitsu is on the SPARC bandwagon with them.
Of course Verizon doesn't like VOIP in the home. It's still losing customers because of it. I suppose they can take some solace in the fact that many of us have been replacing our land lines with mobile phones more often than with VOIP via home internet.
Repeat after me: There is no border between "instinct" and "cogent thought".
Birds build nests and spiders build nests because that is what they are biologically programmed to do. They all do it. Otherwise they die.
In humans, as with animals, eating, screwing and fighting are fairly instinctive in themselves, but how we do it (sometimes) involves cogent forethought. Plus, we (or at least, some of us) do lots of other stuff that is not remotely instinctual, like pondering the nature of matter and the universe, and eventually realizing that E=MC2, that spacetime tells matter how to move and matter tells spacetime how to bend.
There is no instinct that makes us think E=MC2 every spring when it's time to find a mate.
Defects or shortcomings in hardware have always shaped the sound of music. Old tube amps driven past their normal limits gave rise to the distortion that is now one of the hallmarks of rock music. etc...
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Touche.
Since solipsism is not a tangible thing and all we could rely on is the testimony or arguments of one who claims to be one, "beyond any doubt", or even beyond most doubt is impossible, so "sufficiently for all practical purposes" will have to do.
No it can't. Ask a solipsist.
Prove they exist.
Yes, but the an important difference is that science can demonstrate beyond any doubt that pottery and baskets are in fact very real.
No, but believe it or not, there was a judge with the authentically Appalachian-sounding name of "Cletus".
Wanna bet that ACs who don't even RTFA are uninformed idiots who have zero idea what is going on? Troll.
I'd like to see a study revealing how many ACs spout partisan, kneejerk reaction nonsense about American politics and likely don't even live in/come from the States, judging by the spelling of "favour".
For the record, it appears that those indicted include "Charles Wayne Jones, 69, the county's Democratic election commissioner"
Touche. Omitted more out of my own unfortunate ignorance than anything else. Having used both DB2 (quite some time ago) and MySQL, I am more aware of their relative merits. How does Postgresql do in scaling? How many CPUs/cores/threads can it take advantage of in one instance?
Both excellent points. I was looking at it differently. SUN and IBM are mostly peers and direct competitors across their offering spectrum (HW, SW, global services). The nearest comparison I could think of was DEC->Compaq->HP.
"Hey, have you seen Brian lately?"
"No, man, I haven't seen him since last night when he hooked up with that really huuuge white chick. why?"
"Dude, you should have seen it. He was goin' at it with her right out in the open, and all of a sudden she started shaking and smoking. I heard him scream 'YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!', there was a huge flash, she flew away, and that was that last I ever heard from him."
Fujitsu and SUN co-developed/sell the Mx000 series servers. Whichever way SUN goes, I'm pretty sure Fujitsu still has that product line.
I don't recall seeing IBM ever swallow a company this big, so I'll look at DEC and Compaq for comparison. Lots of DEC gear was incorporated into the Compaq line over time. Stuff that eventually went away like the Alpha (poor soul, we hardly knew ye ...) took years. Even when HP acquired Compaq, old remnants of DEC were floating around, like Tru64 UNIX, even though there was stuff that competed with it.
My guess is that IF this sale happens, IBM will keep the status quo for several years as they gradually incorporate SUN tech into IBM badged HW/SW. IBM has a history of contributing to OSS and making money anyway, much of it through Professional Services. I hope they continue.
Can you imagine a CPU with the cores & threads of a Niagara and the clock speed of a Power6? Or a OSS database like MySQL with the vertical scalability of DB2?
I always thought they would end up being bought by Fujitsu before anyone else. I figure the 100% premium for their stock is :
... the talks are not yet final, and IBM is neither stupid, or in the mood to spend money it doesn't have to.
a) a jumping-off point for talks
b) because the value of Sun's stock has more to do with their earnings than with the value of their IP, which is likely what IBM is really after.
Government octopus? Hmm. Well, that would explain the lack of a backbone ...
but can he walk up walls?
I have to ask : why Nehalem EP Xeons?
Because if you are a networking hardware vendor looking to crash the server hardware vendors' party, you don't engineer your product with yesterday's technology. Cisco is in a cash position where they could sell this as a loss leader to get their foot in the door, or at least until the price on the components come down as the Nehalem becomes more competitive.
Not to mention, the cost of the cpu components themselves is a relatively small portion of the overall cost of a system this size. Maybe in a low-end sub-$2k 1RU server, the Nehalem won't make sense right away, but I think it's probably a good fit here.
Looks like a mini-nightmare I had when I nodded off during a late-afternoon DB2 class.
Your mom says hi.
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It also seems a bit unclear as to why Sun continue to develop and produce the SPARC
Because there is a demand for it, and it does things that x86 doesn't. 8 cores * 8 threads = awesome virtualization abilities. The ability for SPARCs to scale up in a linear fashion to > 100 cores in a single general-purpose SMP box positions it in the high-end datacenter realm, where PPC is, but not x86. Plus, SUN isn't going it alone. Fujitsu is on the SPARC bandwagon with them.
I'll be happy when the coat CDs and DVDs with the stuff.
Rumor has it that this whole agrument is a moot point anyway.
Yes.
In the US, the cable companies seem pretty excited about offering VOIP these days, and Vonage is still around, despite the legal battering it has taken, even though we don't hear as much about them as we used to.
Of course Verizon doesn't like VOIP in the home. It's still losing customers because of it. I suppose they can take some solace in the fact that many of us have been replacing our land lines with mobile phones more often than with VOIP via home internet.
Repeat after me: There is no border between "instinct" and "cogent thought".
Birds build nests and spiders build nests because that is what they are biologically programmed to do. They all do it. Otherwise they die.
In humans, as with animals, eating, screwing and fighting are fairly instinctive in themselves, but how we do it (sometimes) involves cogent forethought. Plus, we (or at least, some of us) do lots of other stuff that is not remotely instinctual, like pondering the nature of matter and the universe, and eventually realizing that E=MC2, that spacetime tells matter how to move and matter tells spacetime how to bend.
There is no instinct that makes us think E=MC2 every spring when it's time to find a mate.
Defects or shortcomings in hardware have always shaped the sound of music. Old tube amps driven past their normal limits gave rise to the distortion that is now one of the hallmarks of rock music. etc ...
I apologize. When I posted, my synapses were not awash in a sufficient quantity of beer to fire properly, and I inserted the wrong political base.
Mud would also obscure any, ahem, solid farts.