The issue, as others have pointed out, is that the console and the games are perceived to be part of the "official" package by the general public. If you were permitted to market any game on their console, it could effect the overall perception of the brand in the marketplace; particularly if the public is confused about what is and what is not an officially sanctioned product.
For example, suppose that someone produced an M-rated game with adult content for the Nintendo Wii console and marketed the game as "Wii Wanker". Wouldn't that harm the family-friendly image that Nintendo has so carefully cultivated and protected? If it does, shouldn't Nintendo at the very least be compensated for you harming their brand?
I agree that one should be able to do what one wishes with one's own console, but there has to be some line drawn at marketing arbitrary games for a console brand owned by another. Nintendo has decided that it is cheaper to do this with some level of technical enforcement and legal action rather than through legal action alone. I can certainly understand where Nintendo is coming from on this one.
Theres no "marketing" involved with flashcarts, in no way are they ever portrayed as an officially sanctioned product, nor do they even sell their products in retail stores that sell official games
Peoples perception of them as official products is not the responsibility of the flashcart manufacturer, unless they encourage that rumor, which they don't. In fact they usually go out of their way to state that they are not Official Products. (The outside box has a notice saying its not official, then a slip of paper in the box says it, the label of the flashcart itself, etc etc.
as for "wii wanker", that's a different story, that's direct trademark infringement. But just an adult homebrew game would be fine and shouldn't get any legal action against them because that's not breaking any laws.
If this is done against the wishes of the console-maker, than you can claim, that they are "winning" too. However unreasonable their wishes may be, they ought to be respected, period. They created the product, they licensed their use to others (of whom nobody was unduly coerced into agreeing) on certain conditions.
You — or this judge — then coming around and saying, you know, we think, those conditions should be changed, and we are going to force you to change them, is just not how things ought to be done in a free society.
But its completely OK for a console maker to force me NOT to do things with something I outright purchased with my own hard earned money?
Since when should their wishes be law?
PDF is a format designed to preserve the original page size and layout, while its certainly commonly (read: usually) used with no regards to those, it really really sucks at doing so. html based options like epub are much much better at having the content universally fitted and sized to the device in question. Also, PDF sucks for conversion to other formats as well.
I've been using a DS homebrew app called DSLibris for a while now, The DS is naturally shaped like a book when held sideways, and it certainly beats paying a lot of money for a dedicated device vs something I already have and use frequently. The top right corner page turning touch controls are also pretty nifty. It does currently lack a few features, like the ability to download/sync with books stored on my PC automatically, although it could easily be done given the DS' wifi functionality. And I'm not paying 250$ just to automate something that can be done fairly easily manually to begin with.
It takes some getting used to, and you'll never be as good with a controller than with keyboard and mouse, but it's not as bad as many PC gamers pretend it is. Besides, lots of good FPS never make it to PCs.
For me, it is more horrible than you can imagine. Consoles need to just give up on strafing, it doesn't work well with a controller at all and just makes turning awkward, they will never turn that second josytick into a mouse.
Also, consoles are made for TV's which you watch from a slight distance, which is fine for me for third person games, but for fps I like to be closer to the screen.
I've yet to see a good console exclusive fps.
and extra content for the expandable ones.
The same applies to consoles.
Actually consoles are the ones getting more exclusive content these days, so I'm not quite sure where he was going with this. PC still wins at user created content tho. I know there's ways to get mods for some console games, but that's always been a PC niche and probably always will be. (this sucks for games I prefer on consoles that have active modding communities like GTA)
The PC update race is slowing somewhat, but on average, console hardware is still cheaper (although games tend to cost more).
Lots of people don't have HDTVs still, so choosing a console also means buying a new TV if they want to play at anything higher than 480p whereas they can play up to 1600x1200 on even older monitors. It doesn't help that most console games aren't even rendered at full HD anyway, scaling helps but still.
I'm gonna agree with you on raw cost tho, however, comparable pc hardware gets cheaper the longer the console has been out, decent hardware putting the 360 to shame is less than half the cost of a 360 now.
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Especially if you have to buy four PCs at once, one for each player. Online play doesn't help when your friends are visiting your house.
Directinput supports up to 64 controllers connected to the same PC. (you were going to play with a controller anyway since you favor consoles, right?;)
From what I understand their ATM security is just fine.
uhh what?
Jeff Dean, Senior Vice-President and Senior Programmer at Global Election Systems (GES), the company purchased by Diebold in 2002 which became Diebold Election Systems, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft for planting back doors in software he created for ATMs using, according to court documents, a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of two years[7]
The fact that they'll be sued into oblivion for trademark infringement?
Suing well hidden people in Mother Russia = don't hold your breath.
I'm sure there's some sort of grievance you can file with ICANN but I wouldn't hold my breath for that either.
Another "solution" would be preventing company names from being registered in any part of a domain using an automated system. That has negative consequences too especially for smaller company names that might be included in other words (lego) or company names based on common names (ie Johnson and Johnson)
Another thing this would kill is clever domain hacks. Or at least make them less clever.
Even if we're talking about actually-free channels (do any still exist?)
CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX and even the CW all still broadcast over the air...
Ad revenue is tricky because the money only comes from a stupid, but unfortunately large portion of the people who see them. The rest aren't paying for anything, even indirectly.
Woops borked my post the first time. What I meant to say was...
I still remember the time when people would wait for movie critics to give their opinion on a movie before they went to see it. I also remember not wasting money on movies that received bad reviews.
Nice way to let someone else make your opinion for you. Especially people whose opinions have a habit of sucking. Have fun seeing the next overhyped action sequel or Ben Stiller movie
What's amazing is that these studios seem to be focused on the losses they incur from a bad movie. That's unreal: the metric is not how good a movie is, but rather, how effectively they can trick people into seeing a really bad movie. One doesn't need special effects to make a great film, just talented and creative directors, writers, and actors. It would be one thing if they only mentioned it causally, but they mention it over and over again, as if their biggest fear is that piracy will expose them as shitty film makers.
I still remember the time when people would wait for movie critics to give their opinion on a movie before they went to see it. I also remember not wasting money on movies that received bad reviews.
I've never understood that about him, tbh, How does one go from a religion that brought us the Kama Sutra to one that won't even let you stick it in the rear.
This doesn't prove he's guilty. He may have had knowledge of the murder, and use that to reduce the sentence. I still have faith that the real story will come out.
He is the O.J. Simpson of nerds. We can't believe he's guilty because he's one of us.
You must not live in America then. Or don't know many people. While racism against blacks may be exaggerated a LOT in the media and by certain preachers who need to shut the fuck up (and I'm not just talking about Wright) It does exist on a scale large enough that at least everyone knows one. It's like saying you don't know any alcoholics.
Theres no satellite or wireless internet service here, and neither of those are good alternatives to begin with. (To go with my road metaphor, they are like walking... well that might be too harsh, dial-up would be walking, and those would be bicyling.)
Spot checks for drunk drivers, don't occur all day every day. Matter of fact, my town only does them on new years, and its mostly just for the good image they get in the press.
Those are all well written and posted laws, my isp contract says NOTHING about them slowing access to an entire protocol all day every day.
Nice try though.
Don't like, switch! Most smallish cities and towns have a contract system in place where one cable company has the contract for the whole city. There is no "switch" option. Fact of the matter is, even there was one, I shouldn't have to. I'm paying to use their lines. What I do with them is none of their business. I'm fairly certain the police don't stop or slow access to major roads just because a criminal -might- drive past with a body in the trunk.
That's a lot like finding some of these things now.
Find a Divx disc with a movie on it? You're out of luck even if you have a player.
There's also MovieCD, good luck getting those to work.
Certain MMORPG's were shut down - imagine if they'd let their server source loose? Might be room for some interesting single-player implementations or even local-player setups.
Then there's Blizzard, who actively fucked over people making local-type servers for games like Warcraft and Starcraft.
DRM alone doesn't cause this either - a lot of earlier (Directx 4-5-6ish) games have a TON of problems getting set up on modern systems, or glitch horribly when you try to run them. There are also a few titles you can't even install because they try to access the hard drive directly and don't understand the FAT32 and NTFS formats.
And consider the following ironic thought: what are the chances that, 10 years from now on your (10th? 15th? 25th?) anniversary, you'll be able to find a working VHS player to watch your wedding video? there will always be emulation of older games, and ways to convert old formats to new ones..
DRM will prevent even that from happening. If I own something, I should at least have it in unaltered form forever. Whether or not I can play it on newer things is irrelevant, I should still own it if I legally payed for it. DRM prevents that from happening. It's basically a long term lease.
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The issue, as others have pointed out, is that the console and the games are perceived to be part of the "official" package by the general public. If you were permitted to market any game on their console, it could effect the overall perception of the brand in the marketplace; particularly if the public is confused about what is and what is not an officially sanctioned product.
For example, suppose that someone produced an M-rated game with adult content for the Nintendo Wii console and marketed the game as "Wii Wanker". Wouldn't that harm the family-friendly image that Nintendo has so carefully cultivated and protected? If it does, shouldn't Nintendo at the very least be compensated for you harming their brand?
I agree that one should be able to do what one wishes with one's own console, but there has to be some line drawn at marketing arbitrary games for a console brand owned by another. Nintendo has decided that it is cheaper to do this with some level of technical enforcement and legal action rather than through legal action alone. I can certainly understand where Nintendo is coming from on this one.
Theres no "marketing" involved with flashcarts, in no way are they ever portrayed as an officially sanctioned product, nor do they even sell their products in retail stores that sell official games Peoples perception of them as official products is not the responsibility of the flashcart manufacturer, unless they encourage that rumor, which they don't. In fact they usually go out of their way to state that they are not Official Products. (The outside box has a notice saying its not official, then a slip of paper in the box says it, the label of the flashcart itself, etc etc. as for "wii wanker", that's a different story, that's direct trademark infringement. But just an adult homebrew game would be fine and shouldn't get any legal action against them because that's not breaking any laws.
If this is done against the wishes of the console-maker, than you can claim, that they are "winning" too. However unreasonable their wishes may be, they ought to be respected, period. They created the product, they licensed their use to others (of whom nobody was unduly coerced into agreeing) on certain conditions.
You — or this judge — then coming around and saying, you know, we think, those conditions should be changed, and we are going to force you to change them, is just not how things ought to be done in a free society.
But its completely OK for a console maker to force me NOT to do things with something I outright purchased with my own hard earned money? Since when should their wishes be law?
PDF is a format designed to preserve the original page size and layout, while its certainly commonly (read: usually) used with no regards to those, it really really sucks at doing so. html based options like epub are much much better at having the content universally fitted and sized to the device in question. Also, PDF sucks for conversion to other formats as well.
I've been using a DS homebrew app called DSLibris for a while now, The DS is naturally shaped like a book when held sideways, and it certainly beats paying a lot of money for a dedicated device vs something I already have and use frequently. The top right corner page turning touch controls are also pretty nifty. It does currently lack a few features, like the ability to download/sync with books stored on my PC automatically, although it could easily be done given the DS' wifi functionality. And I'm not paying 250$ just to automate something that can be done fairly easily manually to begin with.
and of course i didnt preview to see that my quotes and responses are all fubar'd
It takes some getting used to, and you'll never be as good with a controller than with keyboard and mouse, but it's not as bad as many PC gamers pretend it is. Besides, lots of good FPS never make it to PCs.
For me, it is more horrible than you can imagine. Consoles need to just give up on strafing, it doesn't work well with a controller at all and just makes turning awkward, they will never turn that second josytick into a mouse. Also, consoles are made for TV's which you watch from a slight distance, which is fine for me for third person games, but for fps I like to be closer to the screen. I've yet to see a good console exclusive fps.
and extra content for the expandable ones.
The same applies to consoles.
Actually consoles are the ones getting more exclusive content these days, so I'm not quite sure where he was going with this. PC still wins at user created content tho. I know there's ways to get mods for some console games, but that's always been a PC niche and probably always will be. (this sucks for games I prefer on consoles that have active modding communities like GTA)
The PC update race is slowing somewhat, but on average, console hardware is still cheaper (although games tend to cost more).
Lots of people don't have HDTVs still, so choosing a console also means buying a new TV if they want to play at anything higher than 480p whereas they can play up to 1600x1200 on even older monitors. It doesn't help that most console games aren't even rendered at full HD anyway, scaling helps but still. I'm gonna agree with you on raw cost tho, however, comparable pc hardware gets cheaper the longer the console has been out, decent hardware putting the 360 to shame is less than half the cost of a 360 now. ---
Especially if you have to buy four PCs at once, one for each player. Online play doesn't help when your friends are visiting your house.
Directinput supports up to 64 controllers connected to the same PC. (you were going to play with a controller anyway since you favor consoles, right? ;)
From what I understand their ATM security is just fine.
uhh what?
Jeff Dean, Senior Vice-President and Senior Programmer at Global Election Systems (GES), the company purchased by Diebold in 2002 which became Diebold Election Systems, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft for planting back doors in software he created for ATMs using, according to court documents, a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of two years[7]
That's the same reason I don't care what's behind my target when I go shooting.
Thats what Dick Cheney said.
76 million people is not "very few" people. Less than the rest maybe, but not "very few".
The fact that they'll be sued into oblivion for trademark infringement?
Suing well hidden people in Mother Russia = don't hold your breath.
I'm sure there's some sort of grievance you can file with ICANN but I wouldn't hold my breath for that either.
Another "solution" would be preventing company names from being registered in any part of a domain using an automated system. That has negative consequences too especially for smaller company names that might be included in other words (lego) or company names based on common names (ie Johnson and Johnson)
Another thing this would kill is clever domain hacks. Or at least make them less clever.
Cops lawyers and judges don't always check the facts either.
http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
Even if we're talking about actually-free channels (do any still exist?)
CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX and even the CW all still broadcast over the air... Ad revenue is tricky because the money only comes from a stupid, but unfortunately large portion of the people who see them. The rest aren't paying for anything, even indirectly.
I still remember the time when people would wait for movie critics to give their opinion on a movie before they went to see it. I also remember not wasting money on movies that received bad reviews.
Nice way to let someone else make your opinion for you. Especially people whose opinions have a habit of sucking. Have fun seeing the next overhyped action sequel or Ben Stiller movie
What's amazing is that these studios seem to be focused on the losses they incur from a bad movie. That's unreal: the metric is not how good a movie is, but rather, how effectively they can trick people into seeing a really bad movie. One doesn't need special effects to make a great film, just talented and creative directors, writers, and actors. It would be one thing if they only mentioned it causally, but they mention it over and over again, as if their biggest fear is that piracy will expose them as shitty film makers. I still remember the time when people would wait for movie critics to give their opinion on a movie before they went to see it. I also remember not wasting money on movies that received bad reviews.
I've never understood that about him, tbh, How does one go from a religion that brought us the Kama Sutra to one that won't even let you stick it in the rear.
I really hate my state sometimes. The foods great but a lot of the people really suck.
This doesn't prove he's guilty. He may have had knowledge of the murder, and use that to reduce the sentence. I still have faith that the real story will come out.
He is the O .J. Simpson of nerds. We can't believe he's guilty because he's one of us.
Also, who the f*ck puts black text on a dark-brown background? If you don't want us to read the article, just say so ...
The area where the actual text is has a white background....
You must not live in America then. Or don't know many people. While racism against blacks may be exaggerated a LOT in the media and by certain preachers who need to shut the fuck up (and I'm not just talking about Wright) It does exist on a scale large enough that at least everyone knows one. It's like saying you don't know any alcoholics.
In theory, it won't work, in practice it does.
There is nothing wrong with Wikipedia that can't happen in any hard bound book.
Most things are garbage for profession citation...hell most profession citations are garbage.
{{fact}}
Theres no satellite or wireless internet service here, and neither of those are good alternatives to begin with. (To go with my road metaphor, they are like walking... well that might be too harsh, dial-up would be walking, and those would be bicyling.) Spot checks for drunk drivers, don't occur all day every day. Matter of fact, my town only does them on new years, and its mostly just for the good image they get in the press. Those are all well written and posted laws, my isp contract says NOTHING about them slowing access to an entire protocol all day every day. Nice try though.
Hi, Cliff Clavin
Well, making the first personal computer is a much bigger accomplishment than typing a sentence saying that hes done nothing since.