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MediaSentry Hired By People's Republic of China

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "MediaSentry, now called 'SafeNet,' the RIAA's illegal, unlicensed investigator of choice, has been hired by the People's Republic of China to provide DRM for the Olympics coverage. The PRC says it 'owns exclusive rights to the broadcast of all audio and video content via online and mobile distribution channels across Mainland China' and wants to protect it from 'piracy.' I wonder if the Chinese government is aware of MediaSentry's track record — i.e. all the good things it has accomplished so far for the Big 4 record companies."

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  1. a match made in heaven . . . by cashman73 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I wonder if the Chinese government is aware of MediaSentry's track record

    I wonder if MediaSentry is aware of the Chinese government's track record?

    1. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wonder if the Chinese government is aware of MediaSentry's track record

      I wonder if MediaSentry is aware of the Chinese government's track record?

      Meh. They're perfect bed fellows and we all know it. They both excel at exploiting an ignorant public.

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    2. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by spyder-implee · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wonder why anyone would care? Why would anyone want to Pirate the Olympic broadcasts? Do you have to pay to watch the Olympics in China? Is this more a matter of making sure there is nothing broadcast which might undermine the Chinese government? Say for example an athlete making a speech about human rights after winning a gold medal.

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    3. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      > a match made in heaven . . .

      I'm quite sure that matches like that are forged in hell not heaven.

    4. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If they are paid enough, I'm sure they'll causally ignore it.

      A fine example of standard corrupt business finest.

      Just think, now you can use Bittorrent to bypass two evil organizations at the same time!

    5. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why would anyone want to Pirate the Olympic broadcasts?

      Spite? Simply to piss off MediaSentry?

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    6. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you have to pay to watch the Olympics in China?

      I don't know. Didn't we have to pay to watch them here?

      Not as in "pay-per-view", but as in "over broadcast TV"?

      Even if we're talking about actually-free channels (do any still exist?), there's still the matter of ad revenue. If people just put clips up on YouTube, that means Google gets the revenue, instead of the Chinese Government.

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    7. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by negRo_slim · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Why would anyone want to Pirate the Olympic broadcasts?

      You must be new here allow me to explain. First and foremost a vast majority of the money holding populace are simple rubes. The profits to be made from a relatively poor and uneducated populace such as China has is not to be underestimated. This is common in the United States of America, such as Yellow Ribbons once found on the vast majority of the SUV driving public. Themselves unlikely to formulate even a remotely insightful or articulate statement as to the conflict responsible for it's re-adoption. Taking advantage of the rubes can also happen on a much more local level for when the Boise Broncos won the 2007 Fiesta Bowl the local news industry was elated to find it's self in a constant self gratification stroke fest as it replayed the admittedly exciting game over and over. Including a year later. Wal-Mart also jumped into the fray to hawk a commemorative DVD with all associated Bronco's paraphernalia located conveniently nearby. It was given the same status in the store as a new Hannah Montanna release for many months after. Just think if China pulls some big wins, the populace is going to eat it up.

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    8. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if the Chinese government is aware of MediaSentry's track record

      I wonder if MediaSentry is aware of the Chinese government's track record?

      Meh. They're perfect bed fellows and we all know it. They both excel at exploiting an ignorant public.

      No kidding - I've no need of organizations that exploit an ignorant public like China and MediaSentry. I'm perfectly content with the US government and Apple.

    9. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here, a simple "Yes you will have to pay to buy commemorative dvd's" would have sufficed.

    10. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Johnny+Chinpo · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      If I had points I would mod you up.

      Particularly if there was a "funny because it's true" category

    11. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by negRo_slim · · Score: 1

      Not really, I'm pointing out as to why you would want to pirate, to sell bootlegs to those easily parted with their money. And of course the censorship angle is not to be ignored.

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    12. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by svank · · Score: 0

      I wonder if the Chinese government is aware of MediaSentry's track record

      (In Soviet Russia,) I wonder if MediaSentry is aware of the Chinese government's track record?

      No, the Chinese government wonders if you are are aware of MediaSentry's record.

      Or is it, MediaSentry wonders if you are aware of China's record.

      Maybe, MediaSentry is aware of the Chinese government's wondering about you (or about your track record?)

      Aw, forget it. In Soviet Russia, MediaSentry track records YOU!

    13. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Entropy98 · · Score: 1

      I wonder if the Chinese government is aware of MediaSentry's track record â" i.e. all the good things it has accomplished so far for the Big 4 record companies.

      MediaSentry has a good track record?
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    14. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You forgot Google. ;)

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    15. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by pembo13 · · Score: 1

      Isn't this typical of most current governments?

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    16. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by spyder-implee · · Score: 5, Informative

      Interesting, I assume your in America? Here (Australia) we pay nothing to watch the Olympics & there would be civil outrage if that ever happened.

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    17. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by owlnation · · Score: 1

      Didn't we have to pay to watch them here?

      Would many people pay to watch the Olympics? I don't know anyone who cares about watching them. In fact, I can't think I've ever come across anyone who is excited by the prospect of the Olympics. I'm sure some are -- relatives of athletes etc.

      Despite all the hype, the protests, the scandals etc etc, it's not exactly a TV spectacular in most Western countries.

      I really can't understand that piracy is any real issue at all.

    18. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Daswolfen · · Score: 1

      I wonder if the Chinese government is aware of MediaSentry's track record

      I wonder if MediaSentry is aware of the Chinese government's track record?

      They should, it matches RIAA and MPAA to a tee.

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    19. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The same Human Rights the USA are violating at the Guantanamo's trials of shame?

    20. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Gideon+Fubar · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, but Channel7 have the 'exclusive' (read: exclusive commercial, as i believe SBS and the ABC will be covering the less popular sports..) rights to the games. Channel9 were rapped over the knuckles by the IOC for filming when they weren't supposed to even be there.

      It's possible this DRM enforcement push is directed against non-endusers, as non-licensed media outlets are also 'without rights' to the material..

      Cue shocked realization from a bunch of media execs.

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    21. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they are paid enough, I'm sure they'll causally ignore it.

      A fine example of standard corrupt business finest.

      Just think, now you can use Bittorrent to bypass two evil organizations at the same time!

      Three at least. You're forgetting the broadcasters over here you're bypassing (ie MSNBC).

    22. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Nar+Matteru · · Score: 1

      Even if we're talking about actually-free channels (do any still exist?)

      CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX and even the CW all still broadcast over the air... Ad revenue is tricky because the money only comes from a stupid, but unfortunately large portion of the people who see them. The rest aren't paying for anything, even indirectly.

    23. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of Hitler, why does this sort of technology always seem to come from Israel?

    24. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by SL+Baur · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why would anyone want to Pirate the Olympic broadcasts?

      I'll name one. Compare TV coverage in the United States versus a truly free country like Japan. Exclusive broadcast rights truly sucks, big time.

      Are you allowed to change channels if you do not like the particular Olympic event being shown?

    25. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Dan541 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I really wish the Olympics were pay-per-view only then I couldn't accidently swich onto it.

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    26. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      I really can't understand that piracy is any real issue at all.

      It is for pirates because now the MPAA have allot of garbage to clog our trackers with.

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    27. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by SL+Baur · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny that you should bring up Adolph Hitler. This is a replay of the 1936 Olympics and I was in Beijing the week before the Olympic commmittee traveled there to choose it - there was an army of people out picking up garbage and what not. I guess they did not have vacuum cleaners large enough to clear out all the dirty[1], polluted air though.

      Indeed, Media Sentry + PRC is a match made in ... well somewhere I'd rather not go.

      [1] On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is the least polluted air and 10 is max polluted, Los Angeles CA USA, where I lived for almost 2 decades ranked about a 5 when I moved away. Tokyo Japan ranked about a 7 when I lived there 2000-2003, and Beijing in 2001 ranked 10. I hope someone does not die in the marathon, but I won't be watching to find out.

    28. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by fucket · · Score: 1

      So, what exactly am I allowed to spend my money on, Mr. I-Don't-Like-Football?

    29. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by SL+Baur · · Score: 2, Funny

      Would many people pay to watch the Olympics?

      Probably. If my wife demanded it, I would. I tend to watch the summer Olympics if it is convenient (I'm not much of TV watcher) because it brings back memories of track & field in my school days.

      Of course, after being spoiled by broadcast TV coverage of the Olympics in Tokyo where there was 4 or 5 channels of different events to choose from, I would never ever willingly watch US TV coverage unless they paid me (a lot) to do so.

      When my children get older, I'll probably reverse myself. The Olympics is a great inspiration for young people and I do hope my sons become school boy athletes before they follow in dad's footsteps and become desk jockeys behind a computer.

    30. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by longusername · · Score: 1

      I think you're on to something. It's called McCommunism: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-klein/the-olympics-unveiling-po_b_117403.html

    31. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX and even the CW all still broadcast over the air...

      I thought that was going to be phased out soon, if it hasn't already? Wasn't this the huge chunk of spectrum that was auctioned off recently?

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    32. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dnoyeb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Olympics sucks. I wont even bother watching them. The coverage is fucking pathetic. If you are not interested in one of the top billing events, you can forget seeing the event at all. last time around I tried like hell to watch TaeKwonDo to no avail. I could only catch some of it in Canada since I live in Detroit. Otherwise, it was a waste.

      This time I would like to see some mountain biking. My hopes are not high.

      Pay per view Olymipcs. The thought is laughable.

    33. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by mxs · · Score: 1

      Naive.

      Somebody is paying. You may not give the IOC your bucks directly, but you SURE AS HELL are paying for it.

    34. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

      yea and "The PRC says it 'owns exclusive rights to the broadcast of all audio and video content via online and mobile distribution channels across Mainland China' and wants to protect it from 'piracy.'" so outside china is all fair game, and mediasentry can't do much outside of California in the US anyway due to the fact of no licenses to investigate anything.

    35. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Firehed · · Score: 1

      You can't blame just the MPAA, here. While look for Linux distros on TPB's top 100 *cough*, I found that the I-don't-have-words-to-describe-something-that-stupid show "So You Think You Can Dance" is among the top ten videos.

      The latest Mummy movie taking the top spot may be the fault of the MPAA, but it's unfair even to them to claim that they had anything to do with the trashiest of reality TV.

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    36. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

      The FCC has mandated that they all switch to digital broadcast, which requires less bandwidth than analog. I think the remaining bandwidth is what was auctioned off.

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    37. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by GaryPatterson · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, Channel 7 (here in Aus) is paying for it from the revenue they raise by selling advertising time.

      The channel is a free-to-air channel, so viewers are definitely not paying for it.

    38. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by ydrol · · Score: 1

      I suspect all of the Western Business World is aware, but that it's not really an issue. After all China "won" the Olympics just as business is looking to get a piece of the pie..

    39. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Well,I can say that for me I quit watching when the USSR broke up. Before that,it was interesting to watch just for the fact that our (USA) team would look like the high school football team compared to the USSRs Over Steroided supermen. So when we did actually win something like the miracle on ice that was exciting. Now everybody sends the steroid monsters and its all a big "meh" to me.

      Slightly OT,but can we all just admit that athletes are going to use steroids and get over it? Because all we are doing now is causing them to go to nastier and nastier drugs to evade detection. Lets face it,the genie is out of the bottle,and expecting to change that is about as realistic as expecting US pro football to go back to being 120 pound guys wearing leather helmets like in the '20s. As anyone who has seen a video of how Olympic athletes train knows these folks are insane and will risk their health and even their lives just for the chance to grab the gold medal. At least we'd be able to monitor their blood levels to help make sure they didn't kill themselves if we knew what they were taking. Now the advantage goes to whomever can cook up a nasty boost that gets past detection. I mean,look at the Tour De France,and how whomever wins it this year when in all likelihood be banned next year as they have figured out how to detect whatever they used to win. But as always this is my 02c,YMMV

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    40. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dwater · · Score: 2, Informative

      > and Beijing in 2001 ranked 10

      7 years is a *long* time - certainly not recently.

      I lived there from 2003 until 2 months ago. It isn't that bad. Only on occasion does it get bad, and it's not because they generate so much pollution so much as the weather is such that it just stays around; or there's a sand storm blown in from the desert. Still, pollution is pollution.

      I remember the BBC World News showed some pictures of *clear* skies, suggesting it was something unusual. Bollocks - it's often like that and it just depends on the weather.

      > I hope someone does not die in the marathon,

      I hope not too, but it's won't be the first time they've had a marathon there...

      > but I won't be watching to find out.

      I will. It's quite amazing what they've done to make these Olympics possible. I've been to almost every stadium in Beijing and they're all quite excellent. I hear even the BBC complimenting them on the facilities. I'm not *that* much of a sports nut, but there are some events I will be watching for sure.

      Comparisons with 1936 are severely misplaced, IMO.

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    41. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dwater · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      > The PRC makes GWB look as tame as Adolph Hitler.

      I'd say you have that backwards, ie GWB/USA is more like Adolph Hitler/Nazi Germany in the way he tried to take over and control the world.

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    42. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Mike Godwin called, he says hi!

    43. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dwater · · Score: 2, Funny

      > I wonder if MediaSentry is aware of the Chinese government's track record?

      Like the excellent 'rescue' of the people hit by the recent SiChuan earthquake? That efficiency and scale of that effort puts many countries efforts in similar situations to shame IMO.

      It's not all bad - which is something I have trouble saying about the RIAA, though the comparison in poor taste, IMO.

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    44. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Nullav · · Score: 1

      And who, pray tell, is viewing said ads?

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    45. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Nullav · · Score: 1

      Save it?

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    46. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dwater · · Score: 0, Troll

      > Meh. They're perfect bed fellows and we all know it. They both excel at exploiting an ignorant public.

      No, we don't all know it.

      In fact, a large proportion of China consider that it is people in western countries that are the ignorant ones. Justifiably, IMO.

      How people can just accept what they read and are shown on TV news as 'fact' is quite amazing? I think people in the west have lost the ability to question the truth of what they're shown. I'm even embarrassed by my own parents, particularly about the Tibet thing - they don't seem to be aware of the history the English (my family is English) have in that region and the history in general. All they see is people dressed as monks (some of whom are, to Chinese people, clearly *not* Tibetan) being all 'peaceful'. They don't realize that the monks were the ruling class (cast?) there (they were given local authority by the Beijing gov.), had developed their own fighting army, and would treat the peasants as slaves and generally really poorly. If I were the Chinese gov. I'd want to cancel the authority I'd given them too since it'd clearly been abused (like in other places).

      I know everyone isn't as unquestioning, but it's pretty much true that people are brought up in a world where 'communism' is automatically bad (no matter what form it takes). People didn't used to just blindly trust what they saw on TV news, but it seems like people don't question what they're told these days - what's changed?

      The fact is, there's a *lot* of history in what has happened there, and so it is a lot more complicated than can be shown on a few news broadcasts.

      Well, that's my opinion anyway. Take it or leave it. I suspect you'll do the latter.

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    47. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. You've obviously never visited at least one of the countries you're commenting on.

      Are you suggesting that Chinese citizens have more liberties than Americans!?! Or that the US is more aggressive in its foreign stance? If either is the case, you know nothing about human rights or the US/PRC's history of foreign intervention/invasion/seizure/exploitation.

      I don't have a hard-on for the US, but they have a damn better track record than the PRC.

    48. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Ambiguous+Puzuma · · Score: 1

      While I'm opposed to just about all reality TV, you could do worse than "So You Think You Can Dance". At least it promotes interest in various types of dancing, a healthy physical activity. The same can't be said about shows like "Big Brother" or "The Bachelor".

    49. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by spyder-implee · · Score: 3, Funny

      People who don't know how to use the remote.

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    50. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by gnick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't this typical of most current governments?

      I'd love to disagree with you (you're the only foe I've managed to acquire on /. so I guess I just want to nurture the relationship =) ). But I can't - At least not entirely. Governments are a necessary evil - It makes good sense to organize a system of laws/enforcement, public services, national defense, etc. But, once established, it is a constant struggle to keep the government a public service entity instead of a mechanism for oppressing the public in favor of those that have the most influence over the "public representatives".

      Also, I believe that the system in America isn't entirely broken. We have a lot of uninformed people electing bad representatives, but our elections are at worst slightly rigged (too much, but better than many and we're working on it - Even a 1% majority would stifle crooked polling IMHO - Major problem, but the world has no system that's unscammable). The biggest exploitation here is people not bothering to research dodgy information they've been fed and acting on bad pretenses. And, this happens much more on the corporate level than the political level which gives the major corps power to lobby/endorse/bribe the government reps.

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    51. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by gnick · · Score: 1

      Interesting, I assume your in America? Here (Australia) we pay nothing to watch the Olympics & there would be civil outrage if that ever happened.

      So you have Olympic coverage with no advertising? On over-the-air broadcasts? Without subsidizing through taxes?

      Is there some rich Australian Olympic fan that's funding these broadcasts just to be nice?

      I've never visited Australia, but the idea of "free" anything anywhere seems a little fishy. If you're not paying, somebody else is. Broadcasting isn't free.

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    52. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by freedom_india · · Score: 1

      Damn. You made me spill my drink.
      No wonder you were modded insightful.
      MediaSentry will definitely want to try out a few draconian measures of DRM as a test. This is a God-send for RIAA/MPAA.

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    53. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by FearForWings · · Score: 1

      > it's often like that and it just depends on the weather.

      Is that when the eye of the typhoon is overhead?

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    54. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by roedeer · · Score: 1

      Comparisons with 1936 are severely misplaced, IMO.

      In 1936, they wouldn't have wanted to compare it to 'our' Olympics of 1936 either, now would they?

    55. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by mpe · · Score: 1

      I really wish the Olympics were pay-per-view only then I couldn't accidently swich onto it.

      Or even confined to "sports channels".

    56. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by enoz · · Score: 1

      Given you mentioned the ABC in there, but just to point out Triple-J radio are the only station brave enough to host the real stories.

    57. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by houghi · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hope someone does not die in the marathon

      All that these marathon men are asking is: Is it safe?

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    58. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Evildonald · · Score: 1

      there would be civil outrage if that ever happened.

      Ha! When do Australians get outraged? Only when their mortgage interest rates go up.

      Australia has become one of the most morally apathetic countries.. and I know... and I'm Australian.

    59. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      There's no point, every channel will be broadcasting the Olympics. Maybe not video of the event itself, but talk shows, discussions, etc.

    60. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [quote]I think people in the west have lost the ability to question the truth of what they're shown.[/quote]
      I think you underestimate people. It's not just large organizations, but now also individuals, that have become adept at bending then promoting whatever truth appeals to them. One might argue that this has always been the case - the loudest promoters of any religion have usually been those who stood to gain materially in some way from more followers.

      NewYorkCountryLawyer is on a particular mission that requires painting a very vivid good vs. evil picture, and this is just another press release to spin things his way. With the on-going cases he's involved in, it's sad that US courts aren't more eager to issue stfu orders. Unfortunately, the correct way of weakening the USSR/China/RIAA/etc - to stop trading with them until they comply - does not please those, like NYCL, who reap profit from the war, whichever side they are fighting on. The warmongers will always turn any battle into one of irrelevant detail - oh no, PRC chose MediaSentry! color me worked up!

    61. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      Maybe not video of the event itself, but talk shows, discussions, etc.

      I guess you have not seen USian Olympic TV broadcasts. The talk shows/discussions etc. are *most* of what they show.

      I'm certainly not going to attempt to describe the drama in the 800m race - it's something that you have to have been there to really understand. But I would *much* rather watch that, than some "human interest" video about a participant.

      I *am* a sports fan. Give me the straight sports and the coverage I saw (my late wife avidly watched it and hence, so did I) in Japan swore me off forever from the frustrating TV "coverage" that goes on in the US.

      If I *could* turn to a dozen or two dozen different channels with Olympic sports on them, I might consider watching.

      And to the losers who say "It's sport or games or whatever, WHO CARES?" I say, there are a vast majority of engineer/scientist types who appreciate the so-called "fine arts" and sports than liberal arts majors who have the vaguest clue about anything technical.

    62. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Dhampir · · Score: 1

      There actually is such a thing as "free" TV. Anyone who has a set of rabbit ears in any of the bordering states near Canada can pick up CBC, channel 9, over the air. But they usually also used to have good Olympics coverage in the past, so I'm fairly certain that they'll have it again this year, and in years to come, even if it is focusing mainly on Canadians rather than our neighbours to the south.

    63. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Granted I was watching the run-up to the Olympics and not the real thing, but the coverage I've seen in Japan in the past few months certainly had its excessive share of human-interest stories.

      Or am I really forgetting how bad it is in the US?

    64. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by JosKarith · · Score: 1

      What, you're saying that the MediaSentry geeks will be embarrassed if China gets less than 5 golds in the track and field events?

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    65. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by GaryPatterson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People may view the ads, but they are the product being sold to advertisers by television stations. They have no obligation to buy anything.

      There's a very indirect link that's possible here, but no money moves from a viewer to the IOC here except at the sort of remove where you can link everyone on Earth, via Kevin Bacon, to the IOC.

      ... and please, *never* use the phrase "pray tell."

    66. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by jools33 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What pisses me off is the over-patriotic broadcasting of whichever country you're in. If you're in Sweden- they mostly show heats that have Swedish athletes involved - all the other heats are judged uninteresting - and so they prefer to spend their time building up in the studio to the next time when a Swede appears in a heat. As I recall coverage in the UK was similarly biased to UK athletes - perhaps things have changed more recently. If you want to follow the progress of another country other than the one you reside in - you need to pay for Eurosport or something similar. Why cant they just stream the whole thing free on the web so we can choose what we want to watch and when?

    67. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you allowed to change channels if you do not like the particular Olympic event being shown?

      I live the US and our televisions do indeed have the capability to change channels. Originally it required the user to get up and turn a dial, but nowadays you can just sit on your rear end and push a button.

    68. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      Is this more a matter of making sure there is nothing broadcast which might undermine the Chinese government?

      Yes, but that's not the main motivation. China has not suddenly converted to extreme capitalism complete with copyright maximalist attitudes incorporated. But they have no problem using things they don't believe in as bargaining chips. Next time the US or WTO or whoever wants to harass them over piracy, they will be able to point to this among other things as evidence that the West or the MAFIAA doesn't practice what they preach, or more like demand that if the West wants its intellectual property protected, then the West should protect China's IP too. And if the West protests that they're trying but it's hard, then it's time to deal! China will drop MediaSentry and similar efforts in exchange for the West shutting up about whatever piracy is bugging them now. Probably China doesn't care whether MediaSentry ever succeeds in protecting so much as 1 bit of "their" data, just as long as MediaSentry "gives it the old college try".

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    69. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by mxs · · Score: 1

      Right, assuming that none of the viewers buy none of the advertisers' products.

    70. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      In the UK, the database will hunt you down for money if you use "free TV".

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    71. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by RobBebop · · Score: 1

      Even if we're talking about actually-free channels (do any still exist?)

      Yes, I watch fuzzy broadcast TV on my flat screen HDTV for free. When the images ghost on the screen, it brings back old memories of watching football on Sunday afternoons at my grandfathers house (may he rest in peace).

      What you pay for is Cable TV so you can watch ESPN and MTV and the Discovery Channel or the "other" 6 channels that (in America) NBC/GE is using to cover the non-showcase events.

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    72. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      When my children get older, I'll probably reverse myself. The Olympics is a great inspiration for young people and I do hope my sons become school boy athletes before they follow in dad's footsteps and become desk jockeys behind a computer.

      So your plan is to get them to watch a lot of sport on TV? I don't think that counts as doing athletics.

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    73. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And why, pray tell, should one not use that phrase?

    74. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by boredandatwork · · Score: 1

      There is a little concept known as opportunity cost. The theory behind it is (with the scope of watching "free" tv) that even though you may not pay MONEY to see it, you are paying with your time and attention (unless you change the channel). You watch 40 minutes of Olympics, and throughout you have to sit through 20 minutes of people pitching you ads. Truthfully, I have no interest in the Olympics myself, but I would imagine in this day and age, they would increase that even more for the occasion, and make it about 35 minutes Olympics and 25 minutes ads, if not worse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

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    75. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought piracy was the whole point of communism....

    76. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Doggabone · · Score: 1

      Why cant they just stream the whole thing free on the web so we can choose what we want to watch and when?

      There's a huge amount of web coverage this time around, although it comes with the usual Zip Code screening/restrictions. I'm going to peek in on the Olympics for the first time in several iterations, just because I'm curious to see how well they pull it off.

    77. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Hordeking · · Score: 0

      Speaking of Hitler, why does this sort of technology always seem to come from Israel?

      I'm calling a "Godwin's Law" on this one.

      As for why Israel seems to generate this sort of tech, they forgot what the Nazis did to them. In effect, they've become the very thing they despise.

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    78. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There wold be an outrage if you had to pay for cable TV?

    79. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by rmc · · Score: 1
      Want the Kevin Bacon trail?

      Consumers buy overpriced A-brand products. A-brand companies spend part of that money on TV advertising. The TV advertising money goes to the IOC for the broadcasting rights.

      Wow. That was an easy one.

    80. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      The biggest exploitation here is people not bothering to research dodgy information they've been fed and acting on bad pretenses.

      *Thinks about drug war constitutional violations and 70 years of federal and state courts willfully ignoring the actual meaning of Miller while the public failed to think about it* Sooo, been here long have you? At least with businesses there's the excuse of relative obscurity. This is something out there in the OPEN and people still willfully ignore it, mainly because thinking logically about what the .gov does and why would be too fucking hard.

    81. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      Next Slashdot poll:

      I'm boycotting the Olympics this year...

      • ...to protest the PRC's human rights record.
      • ...to protest the IOC's commercial abuses.
      • ...because they're incredibly dull.

      It was a hard decision for me to decide on the reason I was boycotting them, but I think probably the third one still wins. Of course, not having a TV makes it even easier, since the sports sections of all other media are separated and easier to ignore.

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    82. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by socsoc · · Score: 1

      All the misconceptions make my head hurt. It's not an HDTV conversion, it's not shutting off all OTA, etc. Read the official site

    83. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by sglines · · Score: 1

      Did I miss the memo. Has Apple replaced Microsoft now that Bill's retired?

    84. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by magus_melchior · · Score: 1

      ... a truly free country like Japan.

      I'd qualify "free" as in "free-to-broadcast." While their TV networks tend to blow away US networks in terms of content quality, the content producers/distributors are even more paranoid about so-called "intellectual property rights". Note also the ISP's willingness to try to kill all P2P regardless of infringement just because of a series of darknet applications used solely for file-sharing.

      Yup. Free, as long as you let the media 0wn you.

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    85. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by GaryPatterson · · Score: 1

      My wording was not precise, and so some of the meaning was lost in my post.

      The earlier poster said "You may not give the IOC your bucks directly, but you SURE AS HELL are paying for it." ("It" being the media rights for broadcast).

      I disagree because *I* am not paying anything for it. I don't shop from any of the companies advertised in the opening ceremony, so not a cent of my money goes to the advertisers, the TV station or the IOC.

      The longer method might involve taxpayer support for sports training, but I'm not so sure about the path there.

    86. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      It's not an HDTV conversion

      I didn't say that.

      it's not shutting off all OTA

      I was wrong there, though. Sorry if that made your head hurt *shrug*

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    87. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dwater · · Score: 1

      Flamebait???

      Wow, some people (Americans, particularly) can't take an opposite point of view.

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    88. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dwater · · Score: 1

      Troll??

      What are you mods thinking?? Just because someone thinks differently to Americans. It *is* possible for Americans to be wrong you know; even the majority of them.

      Sigh.

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    89. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dwater · · Score: 1

      Funny?

      What's wrong with you moderators? You're all sick.

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    90. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasn't saying you did, it's just that there is so much FUD about this and it's especially embarassing on a tech website

    91. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by Gideon+Fubar · · Score: 1

      Quite a pity the commercial stations aren't foolish^wbrave enough to pick up Roy & HG this year.

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    92. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by PastaLover · · Score: 1

      I've seen both images of peaceful and violent monks. The chinese people has only seen one variety. To say the western world is uneducated in comparison is to be completely oblivious of just how well the Chinese government scrubs its local news broadcasts.

      Here's a hint, most of the western world (i.e. not the US) doesn't have much of a problem with communism as such. It's the authoritarianism and human rights violations that's got us all up in arms. But what do I know, clearly you are much better informed.

    93. Re:a match made in heaven . . . by dwater · · Score: 1

      > I've seen both images of peaceful and violent monks. The chinese people
      > has only seen one variety.

      That's simply not true. So much so, that I don't even know if you think they've
      only seen the peaceful or the violent ones. I saw both when I was there. There
      are many all over the place.

      They *have* seen monks who are clearly not even Tibetan - however, I have to take
      their word for that since I can't tell as easily. All I see is people who *look like*
      monks, but that's primarily because of how they're dressed - *I* would look like a
      monk if I dressed that way, but I'm not.

      > To say the western world is uneducated in comparison is to be completely
      > oblivious of just how well the Chinese government scrubs its local
      > news broadcasts.

      I've watched their news many times and my experience is counter to what you
      suggest.

      > Here's a hint, most of the western world (i.e. not the US) doesn't have
      > much of a problem with communism as such. It's the authoritarianism and
      > human rights violations that's got us all up in arms.

      That might be a generalisation, but I would agree somewhat - ie the USA is
      much more anti-communism than a lot of other parts of the world.

      > But what do I know, clearly you are much better informed.

      I would have to agree, unfortunately.

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  2. Why still 'MediaSentry' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everytime I see this company mentioned on Slashdot, they're still referred to as 'MediaSentry (now SafeNet)'. Why? Is it because the MediaSentry name is still so evocative? Just call them what they are and reference the fact that they are in fact that company that used to be called MediaSentry.

    1. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by kcbanner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because changing your name shouldn't rid you of all the shit you threw at various fans. Changing your name after you know you fucked up is kinda a dick move, so they deserve this sort of treatment.

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    2. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by Rhapsody+Scarlet · · Score: 5, Informative

      Everytime I see this company mentioned on Slashdot, they're still referred to as 'MediaSentry (now SafeNet)'. Why? Is it because the MediaSentry name is still so evocative?

      It's because the name change is just a cynical attempt to try and get rid of a name that has 'negative connotations' attached to it, like Palladium becoming the Next-Generation Secure Computing Base, or the Security Systems and Standards Certification Act becoming the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act. The new name is just designed to confuse people, so we list it alongside the old name to emphasize to everyone that nothing has changed, SafeNet is MediaSentry.

    3. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Everytime I see this company mentioned on Slashdot, they're still referred to as 'MediaSentry (now SafeNet)'. Why? Is it because the MediaSentry name is still so evocative? Just call them what they are and reference the fact that they are in fact that company that used to be called MediaSentry.

      Mea culpa. I refer to them as MediaSentry. I don't think a crook should just be able to change its name and clean up its reputation that way.

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    4. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Everytime I see this company mentioned on Slashdot, they're still referred to as 'MediaSentry (now SafeNet)'. Why? Is it because the MediaSentry name is still so evocative?

      It's because the name change is just a cynical attempt to try and get rid of a name that has 'negative connotations' attached to it, like Palladium becoming the Next-Generation Secure Computing Base [wikipedia.org], or the Security Systems and Standards Certification Act becoming the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act [wikipedia.org]. The new name is just designed to confuse people, so we list it alongside the old name to emphasize to everyone that nothing has changed, SafeNet is MediaSentry.

      Well spoken. I'm not as eloquent. So I just say that a crook shouldn't be able to clean up his reputation by changing his name.

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    5. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by Johnny+Chinpo · · Score: 1

      And Nazi supporters US Standard Oil changed their named to Exxon and were the proud owners of the Exxon Valdez

    6. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by Vectronic · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just call them what they are and reference the fact that they are in fact that company that used to be called MediaSentry.

      Oh, I get it, so you'd rather it was "SafeNet (Formerly Known As MediaSentry)"... What difference does it make? I'm sure a lot of people still refer to them as MediaSentry, either because they prefer to, or because they still think it's called that, internally and publicly, most likely because that is what it is still called.

      Besides, there's no Wiki for SafeNet yet, only a line: "SafeNet - Owner of the online investigative company MediaSentry."

      Considering I don;t really give a damn, and wont bother to invesitage further, I find it interesting that A: There's no Wiki, and B: On the MediaSentry wiki, it says they were hired for this, and C: http://www.mediasentry.com/ does not redirect to http://www.safenet-inc.com/ it only mentions that SafeNet now owns MediaSentry, but MediaSentry still exists as a company.

    7. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by McGiraf · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      And Nazi supporters grand pa Bush, IBM, Volksvagen, Mercedes....did not change name and yet nobody cares.

    8. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by giorgist · · Score: 1

      Hey ... STOP making fun of "clean" coal

      G

    9. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by fermion · · Score: 1
      A standard idiom is SafeNet née MediaSentry.

      That said a changed name does not imply that we must refer to the entity by the new name. In fact, using the most known name is good etiquette for the readers. As long as the changed name appears somewhere, there is not problem.

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    10. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well spoken. I'm not as eloquent.

      But you're definitely more succinct.

    11. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      I'm not as eloquent.

      Horse petunias. Clarity of expression *is* eloquence. It takes a lot of understanding to achieve simplicity.

      To say nothing about the fact that you and PJ are the first legal eagles to generate a fan club since Clarence Darrow, so you'll have a hard time pushing the humble wheelbarrow in this forum.

      -- just another egregious back-handed complement from a fanboi.

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    12. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by roedeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And Nazi supporters grand pa Bush, IBM, Volksvagen, Mercedes....did not change name and yet nobody cares.

      Perhaps they managed to regain (or at least some of them..) their reputation using other means, doesn't that sort of prove the point?

    13. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 1

      Was that an example of Godwin's Law in action?

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    14. Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      Considering I don;t really give a damn, and wont bother to invesitage further, I find it interesting that A: There's no Wiki, and B: On the MediaSentry wiki, it says they were hired for this, and C: http://www.mediasentry.com/ does not redirect to http://www.safenet-inc.com/ it only mentions that SafeNet now owns MediaSentry, but MediaSentry still exists as a company.

      That's why I prefer Uncyclopedia! Far superior for serious research! Here's the Safenet wiki!

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  3. BWAHAHAHA by DragonTHC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is such a crock.

    China doesn't own the broadcast rights to the Olympics. The Olympic Committee does.

    I wonder what other compromises the Olympic Committee made in Red China?

    Besides, Media Sentry is a joke. They will soon be hacked out of existance.

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    1. Re:BWAHAHAHA by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly, rule number 1 of running something online. If you make hackers mad, they will hack. I believe that Scientology learned that

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    2. Re:BWAHAHAHA by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      China's government owns the TV stations there, and TV stations buy the rights from their national Olympic comittee. Therefore, the government owns the rights to the games within China.

      NBC owns the US rights to the Olympics, and therefore their webstreams are authorized for US viewers only. Canada? See the CBC. Etc. Etc. Etc.

      Each country's broadcasters have a right to keep other broadcasts out, and a duty to keep their broadcasts contained within their area.

    3. Re:BWAHAHAHA by Entropy98 · · Score: 1

      This is such a crock.

      China doesn't own the broadcast rights to the Olympics. The Olympic Committee does.

      Maybe they do, who knows what kind of deal they might have made.
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    4. Re:BWAHAHAHA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that Scientology learned that

      If that's the best hackers can do then MediaSentry has nothing to fear.

    5. Re:BWAHAHAHA by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      That was only a small segment of hackers, only Anonymous. Scientology only affects a small group of hackers, and for most it is a bandwagon effect. MediaSentry affects just about everyone online.

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    6. Re:BWAHAHAHA by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Besides, Media Sentry is a joke. They will soon be hacked out of existance.

      Exactly, rule number 1 of running something online. If you make hackers mad, they will hack. I believe that Scientology learned that

      Quite right too. The Church of Scientology made just one bunch of hackers mad and look what happened to them.

    7. Re:BWAHAHAHA by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      If that's the best hackers can do then MediaSentry has nothing to fear.

      Thanks to their war on alt.religion.scientology, the Fishman affidavit and the OT-III documents containing the Xenu fairytale were propagated, disseminated and mirrored globally. Mostly out of spite. Now, anybody who wants to can read their top-secret inner scripture, that kills any non-Clear who reads it, and find out it's unbelievably bad pulp SF; as a result, Scientology is now widely known to be a loopy UFO cult.

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    8. Re:BWAHAHAHA by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      But its a good 'white excuse' to get more DRM and control over their networks with 'citizen support'.

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  4. Hired by heaven by NovaHorizon · · Score: 1

    I have a feeling these guys were just waiting for the chance to invoke extreme measures of DRM and are praising the idea that China will let them do anything they want as long as the DRM works..

    1. Re:Hired by heaven by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      The thing though is, as far as I know in China there is no DMCA. Now presumably there is some sort of copyright laws so it wouldn't be legal to download everything from TPB, but removing DRM (which, knowing MediaSentry it won't be hard) would be legal.

      But, given as this is in China, they might just shoot you for breaking DRM.

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    2. Re:Hired by heaven by Firehed · · Score: 1

      China is world-renowned for their rampant piracy (see: Windows). It would seem that they start caring when they "own" the content, rather than someone else. Or perhaps the Chinese government gets a cut of sales of knock-off copies of XP; I have no idea nor do I think it's especially relevant to the point at hand.

      And make no mistake, the anti-piracy organizations in the US would shoot you without a second thought if they could get away with it, and then sue your family for the cost of the bullet.

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  5. If we're lucky ... by aeschenkarnos · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... the Chinese Government will blame these idiots for the (inevitable, unstoppable) YouTubing of the Olympics, and have them all beheaded.

    1. Re:If we're lucky ... by Trespass · · Score: 0, Troll

      Now that I would pay to see.

    2. Re:If we're lucky ... by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is a perfect opportunity to point out that TVU Networks has a freely-available player, and loads of Chinese channels streaming across the internet at any given moment,... Good luck, MediaSentry guys! ;-)

    3. Re:If we're lucky ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no they won't.
      They will shoot em in the neck and sell thee body parts

    4. Re:If we're lucky ... by Inda · · Score: 1

      TVU are not the only one. I actually think SopCast is better both in terms of software and content (sorry, can't link, blocked at work). Quality is a little better than YouTube but not much.

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    5. Re:If we're lucky ... by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      You're confusing the Chinese with the Taliban. The Taliban beheads people, while the Chinese shoot them in the head and charge their families for the bullet.

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  6. pot, kettle. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Can I point out that the Chinese government make the RIAA types look fluffy by comparison?
    Why, incidentally, would anyone want to pirate olympic coverage? The only thing to see in sports coverage is who won. You need only see it once for that. Piracy is for getting a persistent copy that can be viewed over-and-over. Unless the PRC are actively trying to prevent their people from watching the olympics, in which can one would assume that men with guns are the order of the day, not dishonest nerds.

    1. Re:pot, kettle. by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      The only thing to see in sports coverage is who won.

      And the occasional football injury, hockey injury, hockey fight, etc.

      On second thought, maybe you shouldn't click on those links.

    2. Re:pot, kettle. by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 1

      Why, incidentally, would anyone want to pirate olympic coverage?

      Until foxy boxing and robot combat are included, not me!

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    3. Re:pot, kettle. by z0idberg · · Score: 1

      The only thing to see in sports coverage is who won.

      Isn't that like saying the only thing to see in a film or TV show is how it ends?

  7. whaaa? by brokenhorse · · Score: 1

    What you say? China concerned about piracy? There will prolly be a "commemorative" DVD of the games available next week.

    1. Re:whaaa? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Funny

      China concerned about piracy?

      I thought they added it as an Olympic sport this year?

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    2. Re:whaaa? by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This is China, mooning every pirate in the world. (_*_)
      This is what happens next. (_O_)

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    3. Re:whaaa? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's right after the Tankathlon where athletes navigate an obstacle/hurdle track while being chased by Type 59's.

      Was that in poor taste?

    4. Re:whaaa? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's right after the Tankathlon where athletes navigate an obstacle/hurdle track while being chased by Type 59's.

      Was that in poor taste?

      Dude, I'll bet all your friends say you're just a BLAST to be around, what with that RAPIER wit FIRING off punch line after punch line... A veritable MINEFIELD of jokes. I'm DIEING on the floor laughing!

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    5. Re:whaaa? by mentaldrano · · Score: 1

      Although there are many Chinese IP pirates, I think the more bloodthirsty Somali pirates would probably win.

  8. Tell me again by deepgrey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    why someone decided to let the PRC host the 2008 Olympic games.

    1. Re:Tell me again by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some would say to help hasten and spread democratic ideals due to the large cultural exchange bound to happen with so many journalists and tourists in the country. Then again I'm sure PRC helped grease the wheels behind the scenes.

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    2. Re:Tell me again by aeschenkarnos · · Score: 5, Funny

      Indeed! We'd never have let Nazi Germany host the Olympics!

    3. Re:Tell me again by The+Yuckinator · · Score: 1

      Because Toronto didn't grease enough IOC palms or perhaps they didn't grease them enough?

    4. Re:Tell me again by MagdJTK · · Score: 1

      Well, to be fair, the Nazis committed their atrocities *after* being awarded the games.

    5. Re:Tell me again by z0idberg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hadn't thought of it before but realised when I saw the starting time for the Opening Ceremony.

      08:08pm 08/08/2008.

      8 is a very lucky number in chinese culture. So I imagine they had a very big incentive to "win" the 2008 Olympics. Add this to Chinas amazingly strong economy, and the IOCs......questionable ...ethics in regards to bribes/payoffs then I think you can get the picture of how this one played out.

    6. Re:Tell me again by zsau · · Score: 1

      Whereas the Chinese have done it before so obviously they'll have to be good now. That, or just buy as out so that we can't criticise them for fear of having our economy crash and burn. Teaching them capitalism was a really bad idea on whoever's part it was.

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    7. Re:Tell me again by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Well, to be fair, the Nazis committed their atrocities *after* being awarded the games.

      If you'd studied Nazi Germany history, you'd know that the Nazis came into power on a platform of "Germany is still a great country, it's everyone else's fault that it's not a superpower right now but we can fix that" in the middle of the Great Depression.

      I don't think they actually spelled out what they planned to do with anyone they didn't like at the time - AFAIK there's no evidence that the "final solution" was devised until some way into the second world war - but they certainly didn't leave any room for doubt regarding their opinions of anyone who wasn't Aryan in origin at the point where they came to power.

    8. Re:Tell me again by Tweenk · · Score: 1

      Agreed. The people who campaign to boycott the Beijing Olympics seem to forget that boycotting a totalitarian regime will not make it fall; it will strengthen it. Regimes need enemies, and by boycotting we create the impression that the entire world is China's enemy. The only real way to destroy a totalitarian regime is for the people of the country to overturn it. The Chinese are quite far from that right now, but these Olympics might change this a little.

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    9. Re:Tell me again by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I hadn't thought of it before but realised when I saw the starting time for the Opening Ceremony.

      08:08pm 08/08/2008.

      8 is a very lucky number in chinese culture. So I imagine they had a very big incentive to "win" the 2008 Olympics. Add this to Chinas amazingly strong economy, and the IOCs......questionable ...ethics in regards to bribes/payoffs then I think you can get the picture of how this one played out.

      To arrange the Olympics because of a belief in lucky numbers is actually pretty impressive, but in a totally insane way.

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  9. Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by The+Fanta+Menace · · Score: 0, Troll

    If I want to watch people running, I can go to my local park and do so for free.

    Not that I would.

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    1. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If I want to watch people running, I can go to my local park and do so for free.

      Out of curiosity, does this kind of fallacy have a name yet?

      Try this: Why would anyone pay for WoW? If I want to play a game, I can fire up GnuChess for free.

      Although, it would still be more interesting to watch what the athletes do in their time off...

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    2. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      WoW and GnuChess have different content, the only difference between the people running in my park and the Olympics is the speed. People running in the park is like WoW on an old machine.

    3. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      WoW and GnuChess have different content

      Oh, content is all? Fine, if I want to watch some orcs, I'll watch some WoW videos. Leeroy Jenkins!

      the only difference between the people running in my park and the Olympics is the speed.

      And the people. (Olympic athletes are in top physical condition -- go read my other link!)

      And the actual competition. (Are people in your park racing?)

      And the fact that running isn't exactly the only event. People play chess in WoW, but WoW is much more than chess.

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    4. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 2, Informative

      Out of curiosity, does this kind of fallacy have a name yet?

      Fallacy of accident?

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    5. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      But the Olympics is still an utter pile of shit that needs to be exterminated.

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    6. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      Try this: Why would anyone pay for WoW? If I want to play a game, I can fire up GnuChess for free.

      Excellent! All the cerebral exercise without the Barren's chat. Thanks for that.

      How do you get epic upgrades for the knight though? I presume he wears plate...

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    7. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by coolsnowmen · · Score: 1

      Well, when you put it that way, I agree with you 110%.

    8. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      the only difference between the people running in my park and the Olympics is the speed.

      And the drugs.

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    9. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard that during the Olympics condoms are one of the hardest to find items for the athletes.

    10. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by neumayr · · Score: 1

      C'mon, while spectator sports generally aren't all that interesting in their own right, the social experience of a large crowd of people following one event can't be ignored.
      You might come close if you got together with your friends to watch people running in the park, randomly choosing a favorite runner.
      But you don't really pay for watching the Olympics - except with a little of your time and even less of your attention.

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    11. Re:Who'd want to pirate the Olympics? by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      the only difference between the people running in my park and the Olympics is the speed.
      And the drugs

      Oddly, runners ARE drug addicts. The drug they are addicted to is endorphins. Endorphins are the body's natural pain killers, and the only reason heroin works is because it fits the body's endorphin receptors.

      Endorphins are endogenous opioid polypeptide compounds. They are produced by the pituitary gland and the hypothalamus in vertebrates during strenuous exercise [1],[2], excitement, and orgasm[3]; and they resemble the opiates in their abilities to produce analgesia and a sense of well-being. Endorphins work as "natural fever relievers", whose effects may be enhanced by other medications.

      The only difference between a runner and a heroin addict is that a heroin junkie isn't likely to run out from behind a truck right in front of your car like the idiot runners do, and he doesn't shoot up in the middle of the street.

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  10. Clearly security is not an issue by opieum · · Score: 1

    Seeing as Mediasentry has been breached and is near bankruptcy (This may bail them out?) This is not one of China's smarter moves. Allowing them to provide DRM for the olympics? May as well poke a hole in the Great Firewall, which is likley what will happen.

    1. Re:Clearly security is not an issue by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Media Sentry will teach China about legal asshattery and in exchange China will teach them about firewalls.

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  11. the DRM is just there for censorship not to stop c by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    the DRM is just there for censorship not to stop copying.

  12. would this perhaps by deepgrey · · Score: 0, Troll

    include some sort of torture before the beheading? If it does, I take back my comment about the PRC hosting the Olympics.

    1. Re:would this perhaps by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Uh.. chinese torture at its finest involves planting bamboo under a horizontally suspended victim. The bamboo grows anyway, and slowly and painfully impales the victim until death days later.

      Not a favorite of mine.

  13. This is rich by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    China is arguable the largest pirate nation on the planet, who has next to zero respect for intellectual property of other nations.

    Now that their money is at stake here, they want to protect their content.

    Funny, that.

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    1. Re:This is rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is arguable the largest pirate nation on the planet, who has next to zero respect for intellectual property of other nations.

      Now that their money is at stake here, they want to protect their content.

      How is parent modded as informative? The press release (linked from t

    2. Re:This is rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is arguable the largest pirate nation on the planet, who has next to zero respect for intellectual property of other nations.

      Now that their money is at stake here, they want to protect their content.

      (emphasis mine)

      Why is this modded insightful? The press release (linked from the article) states very clearly this is about the broadcast rights inside China.

      Is the performance of the athletes from other nations considered IP of other nations these days?

    3. Re:This is rich by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      Clearly you don't understand the statement. They steal IP from other countries all the time. The IP of other countries has nothing to do with the Olympics. It has everything to do with China not respecting IP.

      China suddenly believes in IP when they have money at stake.

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    4. Re:This is rich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The chinese _government_ has strongly supported I"P" for years. It's totally in keeping with their totalitarian ideals. But the chinese government's control over chinese pirates (and in general) is a whole lot weaker than people seem to understand in the west.

    5. Re:This is rich by McGiraf · · Score: 1

      "China is arguable the largest pirate nation on the planet, who has next to zero respect for intellectual property of other nations.

      Now that their money is at stake here, they want to protect their content."

      Read the US of A history. (I'm assuming you are American)

    6. Re:This is rich by EdIII · · Score: 1

      they want to protect their content

      Maybe they should have thought of that a little sooner. The plan to add DRM is incredibly ambitious. I just wonder if there is even enough time to create a viable plan that could be implemented before the games.

      That, and as everyone knows, DRM always fails. Every time. Period. The only exceptions being when nobody actually cared about the content anyways, like say, a heavily protected video of me shaving my ass and back hair.

    7. Re:This is rich by dwater · · Score: 1

      > Funny, that.

      In what way, is this 'funny'? I'd call it entirely predictable and consistent with, well, pretty much all countries.

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    8. Re:This is rich by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      what is the Chinese word for hypocrite?

    9. Re:This is rich by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      Yeah, the Chinese are the worst self-serving hypocrites on the planet. It's not as if they think they're doing anything hypocritical, either. If you confronted them with it, they'd offer a perfectly reasonable explanation (to them) as to why it's happening. They would be geniunely hurt if you said that their arguments were shallow and self-serving.

      I've had my IP ripped off several times in China (I produce unique content) and it's always the same story: they're shocked that it's a problem, can't understand why I'm upset, and give some BS reasons as to why what they did was OK. I keep a bunch of copies of the local "Reporting, Complaint, and Service Center for IPR Protection" booklet, and send out about one a month. Once in a while, I get back a cursing reply that says that they're just patriotic Chinese people and that it's OK to cheat foreigners. No joke.

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    10. Re:This is rich by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should study your history a little more closely - pretty much every developed country has done similar in the past. The US specifically chose not to honour foreign (mostly British) copyrights and patents when it was starting out as a nation, and yet now they are one of the biggest proponents of such IP protection measures.

      Funny, that.

    11. Re:This is rich by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      Do you have a site with some of these replies posted? Also your homepage (linked in Slashdot) has been taken over by some advertising lunatic.

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    12. Re:This is rich by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

      Except China isn't exactly a small, new, fledgling country.

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  14. track record would be perfect in China by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 1

    Without all that pesky "due process" Media Sentry would have a perfect track record!

  15. of course not... by deepgrey · · Score: 1

    Jesse Owens never won those gold medals..

    1. Re:of course not... by aeschenkarnos · · Score: 1

      Let alone send out images of Adolf Hitler as our electromagnetic front ambassador to the galaxy ...

  16. read carefully by l2718 · · Score: 1

    The IOC owns the broadcast rights -- but does the IOC actually produce any broadcasts? do they operate TV stations? In fact, one of the main sources of revenue for the IOC (i.e., one of the main ways they pay for the games) is by licensing the broadcast rights separately for each oountry.

    The PRC owns the rights for broadcast in China. This is no different from NBC owning the broadcast rights in the US, or the CBC owning the rights in Canada. Note that the CBC is an arm of the Canadian government.

    1. Re:read carefully by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Informative

      The IOC produces a "world feed" of all of the events that serves as the base for coverage in smaller nations. All the local team has to add is native language comments, and maybe a few closeup cameras for their nation's athletes in the event.

    2. Re:read carefully by Firehed · · Score: 1

      And ThePirateBay has exclusive broadcast rights for Sweden. The only difference here is that they're quite unlikely to pay their license fees.

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  17. Oh the irony by RelliK · · Score: 1, Funny

    China fights piracy.

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  18. Are People that Dense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I might be wrong here but I believe that MediaSentry is covering the Olympics, not MediaDefender, the company that is about to go bankrupt. The DRM of the Olympics is kind of screwed up though.

  19. This surprises you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Someone who has reasonable claim to being "the industry leader" based on quantity (certainly not quality) of related work was awarded a government contract. Stop the presses!

    Seriously, this is the same reason Diebold (or whatever they're called now) sells so many voting machines in this country, or Windows 95 was chosen in the UK for "Windows for Warships".

    Quality is a surprisingly low concern for MANY government contracts. If anything, it impresses me that our countries are so similar.

  20. Re:pot, kettle by l2718 · · Score: 1

    The only thing to see in sports coverage is who won.

    I take it you have no interest in actually watching sporting events? Well, many people do. If an event broadcast in the PRC but not in Canada, then Canadian viewers would love to watch "pirated" PRC signal. DRM is essential to supporting the IOC's (mistaken, IMO) policy of licensing exclusive broadcast rights separately for each country. This simply doesn't make sense with internet broadcasting. To be honest, locality-based restrictions also help advertizers -- paying per viewer makes little sense when some of the viewers may not be in the right country to buy your product ...

    Personaly I think the IOC should license "online distribution" non-exclusively, and separately from the TV and Radio rights (which, being broadcasts, can be meaninfully limited territorially). Online distributors can then specialize by language, by locality, but also by sport or in other ways -- it should be up to them.

  21. China's Cultural and Political Issues by TheHawke · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Several friends have visited China over the years and all of them have said the same thing: Things just don't fit right. I mean, it all looks modern, spit and polish, but it just not fit in or fit right with what China is. They promote what they call a "progressively minded society" but restrict their citizens on so many levels it does not make sense in any way, shape or form. Their political infrastructure hearkens back to the bad old days after the Second World War, and is so insular in their thinking they do not understand why we wish their people to have more freedom. They think of themselves as the "Middle Kingdom" and believe that they are so above everyone else that their rules do not matter, only theirs. I think it might take a revolution just to kick loose a few basic rights for their people to enjoy. They may have had their Cultural Revolution that happened back in the 60's and 70's, but they still do not grasp the base logic of having a strong nation; it starts with giving the people their basic freedoms to criticize without being prosecuted, to have peaceful assemblies to protest certain issues, to have multiple religions of light, peace and tranquility, and to vote in people to steer the country towards whatever future they may have in mind.

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    1. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by oldhack · · Score: 1

      Don't you worry your little head about the Chinese, not while we can use a revolution here in the US.

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    2. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by giorgist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Funny that, they think the same for the US. Not that they are not in their own bubble.
      They see a highly consumerist country that weilds their power and lays countries to waist.
      Much like the many a muslim fundamentalists think of the US.

      Imagine walking the streets of NY, and seeing people spending their resource buying crap.
      Thinking they need crap, using practicaly naked bodies to sell crap ...

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/century_of_the_self.shtml
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8953172273825999151

      I guess they think there is an expiration date to the US way of thinking

      So its a point of perspective

      G

    3. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by functor0 · · Score: 1

      They may have had their Cultural Revolution that happened back in the 60's and 70's, but they still do not grasp the base logic of having a strong nation;

      Well, DUH! The Cultural Revolution was an unmitigated disaster, setting China back decades culturally, economically, and intellectually. And this isn't just a view from an outsider, the current Chinese government considers it bad as well. Education can to a standstill for TEN years, making an entire GENERATION of Chinese inadequately educated. Intellectuals during the period were systematically killed. There were reports of people beaten to death by mobs and then eaten afterwards.

    4. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funny that, they think the same for the US. Not that they are not in their own bubble.
      They see a highly consumerist country that weilds their power and lays countries to waist.

      No they don't. Please ground yourself back to reality.

      If you ever been to a modern city in China (Shanghai, Beijing, Chongqing, Chengdu..etc), you will find everyone is living a capitalist lifestyle. If someone isn't getting into your face to sell you something, they are at least buying goods for themselves at supermarkets such as Carrefour and Wal-Mart. Even Bestbuy stores are starting to show up. And oh ya, they actually watch movies in the theaters. The behavior is not much different from that of Americans and Europeans.

      As for the Chinese people themselves? They're like you and I. They want to live their lives and not be messed with. In fact, most of them don't have any political or ideological preferences. They just know the quality of life has been improving over the years and want it to continue. Obviously political freedom and capitalistic expansion is the answer. However, most haven't figured out why these fundamentals work. They know they do, and just accept it "as-is" for now.

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    5. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by vic-traill · · Score: 1

      That's some pretty high moral ground you're seizing there, brother. I can't argue with the ideals you're espousing in the your final sentence. However ...

      They think of themselves as the "Middle Kingdom" and believe that they are so above everyone else that their rules do not matter, only theirs.

      errr ... what? Anyway, perhaps you could hold yourself to similar high ground when it comes gross generalizations about the beliefs of every Chinese. Developed third party, too, it would seem:

      Several friends have visited China over the years and all of them have said the same thing

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    6. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by enoz · · Score: 1

      They see a highly consumerist country that weilds their power and lays countries to waist

      I couldn't help but think that was a link to American Fast-Food Obesity problems.

    7. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by TheHawke · · Score: 1

      The thing of it is, is that did they learn from their mistakes? Not by much, they are still backwards in a lot of fields. They are so tied into being a nation that stands alone, they have no idea of being adaptable and adjust to do what is best.

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    8. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by TheHawke · · Score: 1

      Digi, you have hit the nail on the head when you say they are lack understanding of fundamentals for improving the overall quality of life. They MAY look like they are adapting to Western Culture, but this also might be interperted as trying to escape what is Here and Now.

      Keep in mind that this is the government that bills the families of executed criminals for materials used. They shoot someone, they bill them for the bullet.

      If all this was discussed in front of a Chinese security officer we'd be arrested for conspiracy and put away.

      Keep in mind that the Massacre of Tiananmen just didn't just happen on a whim, it was ordered by the Politburo for they were/still am afraid of losing their power base. Many a good soul was snuffed out that night.

      The ChiComs still have a lot to learn about the basics.

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    9. Re:China's Cultural and Political Issues by giorgist · · Score: 1

      I agree with you, I exaggerated my point. The Chinese see flaws in the "American Dream" as much as the Americans see flaws in the Chineese. How do you run a county of over a billion with the American system ?

      Yes you do have lack of some fundamental freedoms that in our eyes seem terrible, but in the micro cosmos of the individual Chinese ... it may be seen as enabling not restricting.

  22. Piracy in China? Never! by Bob_Who · · Score: 1

    Eventually we will all be Chinese.

  23. lol by T3Tech · · Score: 1

    Just the headline was enough to make me laugh.

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  24. read carefully yourself by Nymz · · Score: 1
    He wasn't moderated insightful for not RTFA, but for his declaration.

    Media Sentry is a joke. They will soon be hacked out of existance.

  25. editing out the smog by wardk · · Score: 1

    does this control include the ability to edit out all the pollution during the sweeping views of paradise?

  26. Enough, already by AdamHaun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is there a way to hide copyright/RIAA/MPAA/piracy stories? They don't seem to show up under any consistent category or author. I know I can just scroll past them, but then I'm still stuck reading the summary of every blow-by-blow account of the copyright wars. I know, the *AAs are evil, copyright terms are too long, yeah, I get it, I got it ten years ago, I don't need to hear it repeated ad nauseum.

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  27. sprit of freedom and openness my arse by Brain+Damaged+Bogan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FTFA:
    "Aren't they supposed to be held in the spirit of freedom and openness?
    Not in China."
    yeah, blame china... The IOC doesn't have a track record for sending takedown notices / sueing to people displaying anything remotely Olympic branded:
    http://news.sbs.com.au/worldnewsaustralia/ioc_sues_website_using_olympics_logos_552593
    http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-7217512_ITM
    the IOC are just as bad as the MAFIIA, but they've got a perfect scapegoat to trial DRM this time around because the West aren't big fans of china as it is, so the IOC spin doctors say "we didn't want drm" publicly, while privately supporting the concept. /rant

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  28. Re:the DRM is just there for censorship not to sto by PotatoFarmer · · Score: 1

    Oh, well, that's ok then.

    Wait, what?

  29. The Olympics are pointless... by actionbastard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In this day and age, competitions like this serve no purpose except to exploit the participants in these 'games'. Many, if not most, of those participating are hoping that they excel -just enough- to 'win the gold' so that they may secure lucrative product endorsement contracts with multi-national firms. Rarely, if ever, do any of these participants return for another try at Olympic glory after they have achieved -or failed to achieve- the brief stardom of the podium.

    If they do return and win, they may land contracts for a breakfast cereal or two of note and they may appear on the box for a year or two until they have been largely forgotten by the public. Then they go on to write an 'inspirational' book about their 'struggle against all odds' to achieve Olympic stardom. Finally, as their notoriety reaches its nadir, they sign on to do a reality-based television show on the E! channel that exploits their pathetic downward spiral and their life on the lecture circuit 'inspiring' people.

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    1. Re:The Olympics are pointless... by tokul · · Score: 1

      Rarely, if ever, do any of these participants return for another try at Olympic glory

      In some sports you are no longer competitive after certain age. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Soo-Nyung, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Bubka

    2. Re:The Olympics are pointless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not at all correct, have you ever even played a sport? Most athletes want to prove that they are the best in the world in their chosen sport.. it's not all about money... getting a gold medal at the Olympics is a lifelong dream for most of them.. like winning the world cup in football (soccer) for a footballer... or actually having intercourse with a female for a Slashdot user.

      Greed would be much lower on the list of motivations for it...

  30. hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The PRC are idiot.

    Good luck with uh...protecting the olympics from broadcast piracy...fucking idiots.

    Sometimes I wonder if grown adults have full functioning brains. Even retarded people I personally know, consider this ideal on the part of the PRC...moronic. Oh well, nothing like real life experience to show you how stupid glutenous oppressive and inanely idiotic you are, this is just going to be one more stupid idea completely torn to pieces by the technical community.

    Suck on that PRC morons.

  31. Events for Hacker Olympics by Nymz · · Score: 5, Funny
    • Crack official websites, and alter front page.
    • Sneak cameras into events, and post cam torrents.
    • Crack DRM on region-limited video of events.
    • Moderate this post as funny, as quick as you can.
    1. Re:Events for Hacker Olympics by houghi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was the first to mod it funny. What did I win?

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    2. Re:Events for Hacker Olympics by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Nothing - by posting you were disqualified on a technicality. Try again in four years (when you next get mod points).

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  32. Governements legislation is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They need to globally change copyright laws. Once a song,movie or TV show etc is more than 2-3 years old it should be public domain and free to download and as long as no one other than the original copyright owner is still making money off it and its just being freely and innocently enjoyed. Media Sentry are a bunch of fascists who flood p2p networks with fake and virus/Trojan horse infected files putting at risk the computer systems of p2p users. What RIAA and MPAA are doing is criminal too!!!

  33. Victims don't have a choice. by right+handed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No kidding - I've no need of organizations that exploit an ignorant public

    I think you misspelled oppress above. People do not chose to live in China, inadequate state education, or to be the targets of RIAA attacks. Please do not insult people stripped of their homes and political prisoners with such trivializations. These thugs punish innocent people.

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    1. Re:Victims don't have a choice. by dwater · · Score: 1

      > Please do not insult people stripped of their homes and political prisoners with such trivializations. These thugs punish innocent people.

      Evidence please? Especially that first one. I'm sure there *are* a few examples, as in any country, but the vast majority of reports I hear of are of people who are migrants and have just parked themselves on someone else's land. *Their* homes maybe, but not *their* land. Of course, they also have a different concept of land ownership anyway.

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    2. Re:Victims don't have a choice. by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Insightful
      People do not chose to live in China

      Actually, a great many people do. It's not North Korea you know; people are allowed to leave.

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    3. Re:Victims don't have a choice. by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      These thugs punish innocent people.

      How do Chinese censorship laws differ from American drug laws? If the Chinese "thugs" punish innocent people, the American secret police (AKA "undercover agents" and "plainclothes police") and the masked thugs from the DEA also punish innocent people. I was one of their victimes last year; searched without warrant, made to stand in the July Illinois heat for an hour, and let go because there were in fact no drugs.

      Glass houses, folks. If you're American, rather than working to free the Chinese, how about working to free us Americans?

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    4. Re:Victims don't have a choice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....Please do not insult people stripped of their homes.... These thugs punish innocent people.

      I've lost track of which group you're talking about. Are you complaining about China, or the RIAA here? -- because this still applies to both.

    5. Re:Victims don't have a choice. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      How do Chinese censorship laws differ from American drug laws? If the Chinese "thugs" punish innocent people, the American secret police (AKA "undercover agents" and "plainclothes police") and the masked thugs from the DEA also punish innocent people. I was one of their victimes last year; searched without warrant, made to stand in the July Illinois heat for an hour, and let go because there were in fact no drugs.

      Jesus, at least in China they just imprison and torture you for a few years then execute you on trumped up or no charges, even they're not such sadistic bastards as that.

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    6. Re:Victims don't have a choice. by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      I think you misspelled oppress above. People do not chose to live in China...

      I think they do. The amount of Pro-China protesting that occurred after the Tibet unrest earlier this year is proof that nationalism is high in China. They live there because the don't know any better. An ignorant public is an oppressed public.

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  34. star wars plot??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This all kinda reminds me of a Star Wars prequel plot...

    1. Re:star wars plot??? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Funny

      This all kinda reminds me of a Star Wars prequel plot...

      Where'd you find that? One of the extras DVDs?

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  35. I don't get it. by Zekasu · · Score: 1

    Why do the Olympics need DRM anyway?

    Does China make that much of a profit from bootleg DVDs of the Olympics?

    1. Re:I don't get it. by joeava · · Score: 1

      Why do the Olympics need DRM anyway? That's a good chance to tell the world that Chinese Gov. does care about IP and pirate.

  36. And it's factually incorrect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SafeNet is not a new name, SafeNet has been incorporated for about 25 years.
    MediaSentry the company was acquired by SafeNet about 2-3 years ago. They didn't change their name to SafeNet they were bought by SafeNet.

  37. A merger in the future I think by richardkelleher · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Based on their compatible corporate moralities, I would expect SafeNet to merge with Blackwater any day now. Then RIAA could have ARMED criminal thugs with international immunity to carry out their agenda. I suspect they would like that.

    1. Re:A merger in the future I think by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 1

      The international immunity thing only works in nations that are either uncapable or unwilling of defending themselves against Blackwater thugs. Like Iraq, which formally has its own government but is de facto still under US occupation.

      In China, I guess their "immunity" would be exactly zero because the Chinese government would not want to share control of the country with anyone.

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  38. Another round of China bashing by shuying · · Score: 1

    awesome!

  39. EPIC FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DRM=dumb retarded management...
    Congrats on wasteing even more money then the like 20+billion just so you can posion all of the worlds athleates with your toxic enviroment...

  40. China is the RIAA's biggest foe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny how MediaSentry's newest client is it's other client's target. With Baidu posting links to illegal songs owned by the RIAA, you'd think the RIAA would be kind of pissed at MediaSentry.

    It would be like Google offering, for free, all songs on iTunes, and having the RIAA and Apple be ok with it all.

  41. Just Mainland China? Too bad... by fucket · · Score: 1

    ...all the pirates are on Hidden Pirate Island, a.k.a. Hong Kong.

  42. Last Minute by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    This seems pretty last minute to put in a DRM system for Olympics starting in 2 days.

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  43. The geek is invincibly parochial by westlake · · Score: 2, Interesting
    There will 10,000 athletes competing for 931 medals - most will see their picture on an American cereal box.

    .
    Rarely, if ever, do any of these participants return for another try at Olympic glory after they have achieved -or failed to achieve- the brief stardom of the podium

    Athletes do return to the games.

    That is an extraordinary achievement in itself. It means, among other things, that there is training and financial support for the older athlete who wants to remain competitve in world competition.

    Look at the ages of some of these men and women:

    John Dale III. USA. 58, Sailing.
    The oldest athlete on the American team. His first Olympics.

    Libby Callahan. USA 56. Shooting.
    The oldest US female Olympian ever.

    Dara Torres. USA. 42. Swimming
    Her fifth Olympics. U.S. record time in the Olympic. trials. Oldest swimmer ever to qualify for the games.

    Hiroshi Hoketsu. 68. Japan. Equestrian.
    Retired Johnson & Johnson executive. Returning to the Olympics for the first time since Tokyo, 1964.

  44. An easier solution: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop watching TV.

    1. Re:An easier solution: by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Why?

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    2. Re:An easier solution: by d3ac0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because frankly, The Olympics are boring.

      Worse, when they come on, it's wall-to-wall coverage with NOTHING but Olympics news. And being a good Slashdotter and "geek" (the computer/networking kind, not the bites-heads-off-chickens kind), I'm not really all that much into sports.

      I personally feel the same way about most major sports venues, the Superbowl being a prime target. Just leave it on the Sports channels so the rest of us that don't give a damn don't have to have it shoved in our faces. Of course, no matter what happens, half the people where I work are freaking obsessed with it, so I can't escape it no matter what.

      I guess this is a large reason why I don't watch much T.V. anymore. Most of it is marketed to the same people that spend THOUSANDS to watch a bunch of roid-rage millionaires get sweaty for an hour or two. Bleah.

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    3. Re:An easier solution: by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      Not just that. Look at air quality there and some big time human rights issues. What kind of a Olympics committee would give it to them? They tried to fix air quality, city quality (by kicking poor out) but this time, Climate kicked in :) It is supposed to be humid as hell and stormy in Hong Kong.

      Even for online, if you are using Linux, you won't be watching it already since the company dealt with Microsoft to push Silverlight to users and (naturally) punish non Windows users.

      It can be dirtier than any junk reality show if you think about it. At least reality shows doesn't claim World peace etc.

  45. China and Iracy Protection - Oxymoron? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    The PRC says it 'owns exclusive rights to the broadcast of all audio and video content via online and mobile distribution channels across Mainland China' and wants to protect it from 'piracy.'

    What? No $1 DVD's of the broadcasts?

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    1. Re:China and Iracy Protection - Oxymoron? by Seraph787 · · Score: 1

      that is not the only one. What happened to Socialism and the idea of everything being free?

    2. Re:China and Iracy Protection - Oxymoron? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      What happened to Socialism and the idea of everything being free?

      Theory got run over by practice.

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  46. Bunch of clods. by rnjn,sinha · · Score: 0, Troll

    Day by day it seems that slashdot crowd is just a bunch of bigots. Anything Microsoft does is bad. Anything Google/Linux foundation does is good. Even Apple is cool. DRM is bad and hence SafeNet is bad as well. Getting back to the original story, it is interesting to see the referenced article in the poster. How about this article here http://www.drmwatch.com/drmtech/article.php/3763781 I guess this gives you some insight as which division of SafeNet is working on what. Further, SafeNet does own MediaSentry. But there is more to SafeNet than just MediaSentry. In other news this might be interesting as well. http://www.safenet-inc.com/mykotronx/ . Oops shudder Oh Boy I know I am going to be flamed for this.
    PS. Now that I have tried to swim against the tide, the bloody "preview" button says "You failed to confirm you are a human. Please start from the beginning and try again. If you are a human, we apologize for the inconvenience."

    1. Re:Bunch of clods. by redxxx · · Score: 1

      DRM is bad and hence SafeNet is bad as well.

      No, safenet is bad, because their subsidiary violates the law, is unethical and helps the RIAA, and others, use the court system to bully people, who for the most part, are unable to defend themselves.

      They aren't bad because DRM is bad. They are bad because they do bad things.

      This isn't to say that slashdot does not have a bit of an echo chamber effect, but you get that anywhere that the majority of people hold many of the same core values.

  47. ValuJet Re:Why still 'MediaSentry' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well spoken. I'm not as eloquent. So I just say that a crook shouldn't be able to clean up his reputation by changing his name.

    I'm looking at you, ValuJet.

  48. New meme alert! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    MediaSentry and DRM: good enough for the Commies!

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  49. Re:Piracy in China? Never! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I'm turning Japanese... I really think so.

  50. Reasons? by Fri13 · · Score: 1

    Seems that MediaSentry will loose DRM technology to china. Simple answer to protect your own business and technology is not bring it to china, they are professionals to copy and develop better versions (and cheaper etc versions too) of the technology....

    The reason to want DRM to all olympic data can be youtube etc others mockups. They might be a fraid that the video or speaks are used as propaganda against them, so they lock users to use it for own purpose.

  51. China see, China do? by janrinok · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are you suggesting that Twitter has no right to comment on the actions of the PRC or MediaSentry? If you are, then you are following in the footsteps of the PRC and their wish to control information and suppress free speech.

    I agree that Twitter is being stupid when he engages in one of his "single-person, numerous-monikas" conversations, but if he wishes to join in an intelligent conversation that he has as much right as you or I to do so.

    On the other hand, if you were just informing the GP that Twitter uses a specific monika then I am confused with that fact's relevance to the topic under discussion.

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  52. PRC is one piece of work by heroine · · Score: 1

    So they "gave up" rights to censor coverage of the olympics and instead claimed rights to all broadcasts. These guys are incredible, or maybe they aren't, since this is the new world. Can't believe anyone is watching this show. Hopefully there will still be something for the non communalists to watch.

  53. How could they know? by Freggy · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the Chinese government is aware of MediaSentry's track record â" i.e. all the good things it has accomplished so far for the Big 4 record companies

    No, that news was probably censored in China.

  54. Practice makes perfect... by WoollyMittens · · Score: 1

    They should feel right at home in that police state. They might even take that experience back home to have Americans prosecuted like dissidents.

  55. Ignore the event? by Krneki · · Score: 1

    How about you ignore the whole Olympic event? I certainly will.

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  56. Title typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The People's Republic of China is the Communist government we all know. The Republic of China is a pseudo-recognized democracy endemic to Taiwan, that is independent of the PRC.

  57. Quick factual correction. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Safenet just owns Mediasentry. Mediasentry itself has nothing to do with the DRM for the Olympics.

    Don't ask me how i know...

  58. the proofreader strikes back by westlake · · Score: 1
    most will never see their picture on an American cereal box.
    .

    many of the athletes arrive in Beijing knowing that their national team hasn't a prayer of returning home with a medal.

    many compete in sports that have little visibility in the states beyond their exposure in the Olympics

  59. Ironic the PRC Cares About Piracy by Udigs · · Score: 1

    You know, because we know what great lengths they've gone through to protect other peoples' IP. Funny, now that they have something the rest of the world actually might want how quickly they decide that copyright is important.

  60. Well No.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not to burst everyone's bubble but there seems to be some confusion between SafeNet Inc. and SafeNet (aka MediaSentry). The press release was from SafeNet Inc. (not MediaSentry).

    These are two entirely different companies so basically this whole article is wrong.

  61. China owns the content? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    I always thought the Olympic committee owned all rights.

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  62. Definitions by magus_melchior · · Score: 1

    Modern Olympic games (n.):
    1. A means for a country to gain prestige and wealth even if it doesn't deserve it. (see also: 2008 Beijing, 1980 Moscow, 1936 Berlin.)
    2. A means for corporations to add to their already lucrative profits.
    3. A means for the IOC to demonstrate what low regard they have of the ideals upon which they were founded.
    4. 20 minutes of advertisements for 15 minutes of tangential stories and 2 minutes of actual athletic competition.

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