Slashdotters in general may not know an awful lot about the particulars of copyright law.
However, they do understand why it was written in the first place and why it now needs to change.
"The Bunker guys", the ISP Bahnhof have actually done a great thing. They have pointed to an older (but still valid) law which states that telcos and ISP's should save as little information about their customers communication as possible, meaning ISP's are allowed and supposed to delete logs when not needed anymore.
The new IPRED law states that ISP's have to give out logs to the RIAA etc. after a court ruling. They do not need to give them out if they dont have them, so amazingly Bahnhof is an ISP that is actually looking out for their own customers.
Do you mean "writing"? what does "righting **AA" or "writing **AA" mean exactly?
Even though English is not my first language, it is obvious that he meant to say "... college students from places that are fighting **AA". Check your keyboard for proximity of "r" and "f".
No, I'm pretty sure **IA has dealt with lawyers of all stripes before. They seem to be unaffected.
Really? The RIAA are still picking the same fights in court against John Q. Public?
1. Give music away for free (it begins)
2. Spread information and knowledge across the globe for free, for all of mankind. Innovation happens faster, with an explosively booming economy and art to die for as result.
3. The Undead roam the Earth
That last step seemed strange to me too initially, but I heard it from a reliable source during the Pirate Bay trial so it must be true.
Having a tendency to come up with bright ideas under pressure is simply a liability in the world of street level law enforcement.
Hmm... I call bullshit, but I do this with a nice little story to soften the blow.
When I was in the army (which used to be mandatory in my country), our units where made up of people from all walks of life. We had the rich and the poor, the bright and the slightly dim, in all four combinations.
Whenever something dangerous happened, it allways involved someone less intelligent. Please note that I don't define "less intelligent" based on the actual incidents, but on obeservations made when living toghether as two companies for almost a year.
These people forgot to unload their weapons, fired from behind the line during moving live fire training, repeatedly managed to throw grenades which had not been properly handled so they did not explode and had to be detonated by others. Several of them managed to leave behind their own AK5 with a full magazine of live amunition inserted for the public to find.
I saw no potentially deadly situations caused by people with high IQ. The smart people on occation whined about illogical orders, but they always understood when not to "fuck around", i.e. during live fire.
High IQ is only a problem when it is missing. A lack of impulse control and short attention span is a problem.
I'm on your side Hurricane. Humans are special (but not that special)
I have actually seen our dog understand how to catch rodents. The insight was an obvious watershed, because he went from zero successes over 5 or 6 years, to multiple successes per month for the rest of his "active" years after the realization:
Over here we have a type of rodent(in swedish they are called Skogssork, similar to or the same as Bank Voles) which creates a nest for its family by digging tunnel systems in the dirt. These tunnels can be several meters long so the Voles can exit the nest at many places.
Our dog had for many (annoying) years stood barking with his nose stuck down any of the tunnel openings, trying to dig his way to the Voles. He did this for hours at end and it was his best passtime.
One day when he had barked into an opening, I happened to be nearby and I saw a Vole exiting the nest by an opening far away from where our dog was, it having reacted to the dogs threat. I called out to our dog to chase it. Our dog saw the Vole and tried to get it, but could not catch it in time before it went underground again.
Now comes the cool thing:
He then (after years of stupid barking down tunnel openings), went to the opening where the Vole had gone in, barked really loud, and then silently snuck back to the opposite side of the nest where he waited silently. After many years of pointless barking, he finally caught his first Vole. After that day our dog regularly brought home Voles, because he had understood how to outthink his rodent enemy.
Professor Wallis was part of the Music Lessons project supported by the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology (home, sweet home) and the World Internet Institute.
He lists among his current areas of interest; "the IPR / Copyright regime and its ability to survive in an un-managed network environment".
When "I cant believe its n" realized the width of his new nick he wept, for his account had suffered from truncation.
In case you really feel like your sig says, how about listening to Mel singing about April showers?
(My nick had nothing to do with Mel Torme, but it was truncated like you suspected. I have started to listen to him though.)
Having a button labelled "I will obey the law" just makes it seem optional
It really is optional (but I agree with your statement).
On that same theme is the/. (american) "I am not a lawyer" statement, disconnected from the realities of this site. "Well, I did realize someone was Goatse-linking above and some other poster was called Adolph Hitroll, but this other user gave some advice and did not claim NOT to be a lawyer, so I just assumed he was."
I realize that there could be legal ramifications for actual lawyers using their public identities where someone could have a case against them, but for non-lawyers to think/feel they have to state this is just strange.
As long as the drug dealers don't mind, this would not be illegal in Sweden.
You are however prevented from collecting information like this and putting it into a database, since it could affect the individuals listed negatively.
TBH, they brought this on themselves with their childish responses to legal letters.
Most of those letters where refering to US laws and Sweden is not the 51:st state.
Technology is considered neutral in Sweden so providing access to a service does not constitute a crime in itself.
Also... you make it sound like the did not want their day in court. You do realize that they are closely affiliated with the Pirate Bureau who knowingly pick fights against proponents of the current copyright legislation?
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Slashdotters in general may not know an awful lot about the particulars of copyright law.
However, they do understand why it was written in the first place and why it now needs to change.
I think I peak at 3AM
... but when do you poke?
It was impossible to get to their website for a few hours yesterday. More mebers signing up today.
"The Bunker guys", the ISP Bahnhof have actually done a great thing. They have pointed to an older (but still valid) law which states that telcos and ISP's should save as little information about their customers communication as possible, meaning ISP's are allowed and supposed to delete logs when not needed anymore.
The new IPRED law states that ISP's have to give out logs to the RIAA etc. after a court ruling. They do not need to give them out if they dont have them, so amazingly Bahnhof is an ISP that is actually looking out for their own customers.
Support the good guys, support Bahnhof.
The Pirate Party webservers where melting yesterday. Many new members simply could not access the site to register.
Do you mean "writing"? what does "righting **AA" or "writing **AA" mean exactly?
Even though English is not my first language, it is obvious that he meant to say "... college students from places that are fighting **AA". Check your keyboard for proximity of "r" and "f".
No, I'm pretty sure **IA has dealt with lawyers of all stripes before. They seem to be unaffected.
Really? The RIAA are still picking the same fights in court against John Q. Public?
I find people who state with ultimate certainty what may only be true in their own heads both funny and sad.
I agree.
It's quite common in Sweden, a sick society and a sick culture.
:p
1. Give music away for free (it begins)
2. Spread information and knowledge across the globe for free, for all of mankind. Innovation happens faster, with an explosively booming economy and art to die for as result.
3. The Undead roam the Earth
That last step seemed strange to me too initially, but I heard it from a reliable source during the Pirate Bay trial so it must be true.
1. Give music away for free
2. ???
3. The Undead roam the Earth
Will they claim ownership of the torrent file?
The zebra mussels (which hitched a ride with ship ballast from Europe)
Ah, the famous mussles from Brussels.
Having a tendency to come up with bright ideas under pressure is simply a liability in the world of street level law enforcement.
Hmm... I call bullshit, but I do this with a nice little story to soften the blow.
When I was in the army (which used to be mandatory in my country), our units where made up of people from all walks of life. We had the rich and the poor, the bright and the slightly dim, in all four combinations.
Whenever something dangerous happened, it allways involved someone less intelligent. Please note that I don't define "less intelligent" based on the actual incidents, but on obeservations made when living toghether as two companies for almost a year.
These people forgot to unload their weapons, fired from behind the line during moving live fire training, repeatedly managed to throw grenades which had not been properly handled so they did not explode and had to be detonated by others. Several of them managed to leave behind their own AK5 with a full magazine of live amunition inserted for the public to find.
I saw no potentially deadly situations caused by people with high IQ. The smart people on occation whined about illogical orders, but they always understood when not to "fuck around", i.e. during live fire.
High IQ is only a problem when it is missing. A lack of impulse control and short attention span is a problem.
The Watt.
He may be provokative to you, but agressive? Please explain why you feel that way, because I just can't see that and I'm reading the same post.
Annoying is not the same as flamebait.
I'm on your side Hurricane. Humans are special (but not that special)
I have actually seen our dog understand how to catch rodents. The insight was an obvious watershed, because he went from zero successes over 5 or 6 years, to multiple successes per month for the rest of his "active" years after the realization:
Over here we have a type of rodent(in swedish they are called Skogssork, similar to or the same as Bank Voles) which creates a nest for its family by digging tunnel systems in the dirt. These tunnels can be several meters long so the Voles can exit the nest at many places.
Our dog had for many (annoying) years stood barking with his nose stuck down any of the tunnel openings, trying to dig his way to the Voles. He did this for hours at end and it was his best passtime.
One day when he had barked into an opening, I happened to be nearby and I saw a Vole exiting the nest by an opening far away from where our dog was, it having reacted to the dogs threat. I called out to our dog to chase it. Our dog saw the Vole and tried to get it, but could not catch it in time before it went underground again.
Now comes the cool thing:
He then (after years of stupid barking down tunnel openings), went to the opening where the Vole had gone in, barked really loud, and then silently snuck back to the opposite side of the nest where he waited silently. After many years of pointless barking, he finally caught his first Vole. After that day our dog regularly brought home Voles, because he had understood how to outthink his rodent enemy.
You may disagree with his views, but there is no insult or even harsh language.
Then the authors who complained to the Guild would stick to their guns and withdraw some works from Kindle entirely. Would you want such an outcome?
Yes.
Professor Wallis was part of the Music Lessons project supported by the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology (home, sweet home) and the World Internet Institute.
He lists among his current areas of interest; "the IPR / Copyright regime and its ability to survive in an un-managed network environment".
When "I cant believe its n" realized the width of his new nick he wept, for his account had suffered from truncation.
In case you really feel like your sig says, how about listening to Mel singing about April showers?
(My nick had nothing to do with Mel Torme, but it was truncated like you suspected. I have started to listen to him though.)
Having a button labelled "I will obey the law" just makes it seem optional
It really is optional (but I agree with your statement).
/. (american) "I am not a lawyer" statement, disconnected from the realities of this site. "Well, I did realize someone was Goatse-linking above and some other poster was called Adolph Hitroll, but this other user gave some advice and did not claim NOT to be a lawyer, so I just assumed he was."
On that same theme is the
I realize that there could be legal ramifications for actual lawyers using their public identities where someone could have a case against them, but for non-lawyers to think/feel they have to state this is just strange.
Just for the record: I am not Mel Torme.
Well, you need to keep up with the Jonses.
Dubbed "Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant 6.5,"
Apple would've called it "iShare" or something else friendly and inviting. Who does MS hire to come up with those horrid, unwieldy names?
That would be Karl Theodor Maria Nikolaus Johann Jacob Philipp Franz Joseph Sylvester Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg.
As long as the drug dealers don't mind, this would not be illegal in Sweden.
You are however prevented from collecting information like this and putting it into a database, since it could affect the individuals listed negatively.
TBH, they brought this on themselves with their childish responses to legal letters.
Most of those letters where refering to US laws and Sweden is not the 51:st state.
Technology is considered neutral in Sweden so providing access to a service does not constitute a crime in itself.
Also... you make it sound like the did not want their day in court. You do realize that they are closely affiliated with the Pirate Bureau who knowingly pick fights against proponents of the current copyright legislation?
No