The problem is that nobody RUNS the latest versions of Windows and Office. Windows 2000 is the defacto Windows standard for us and there are new vulnerabilities every day it seems. Office 2000 is likewise the standard. Until 2005 rolls around I don't see Windows XP or Windows 2003 being anywhere other than extremely early adopters' machines.
Yep, I'm still running woody without and have yet to patch it since release date(about the same time windows 2000 came out! concidence!) hmm strange that Checking bugtraq there seems to be a FEW THOUSANDS VUNERABLITIES BY NOW FOR IT.
your thinking is bloody moronoic, it's like saying the problem is most linux users that don't know linux are running such old linux verisons without shadow password support. Can you imagine these people that never ever upgrade thier windows patch surviving in a linux enviroment?
Is anyone else one of thoese diehard fans that is just sitting to yourself right now and going: Now wait a darn second here, before you go all-outbashing Remember there is more to the story, all will be explained in MATRIX ONLINE coming out next year, just wait you'll see what a good build-up this has all been!
Oh whee, I got that link wrong. TO make that post work as I want it to, please pre-load gamerankings with the worst game sort routine, then click on that and it should work. Either that or you could just go yourself and click to the search for worst game.
Right now it kinda backfires and makes it seem sarcastic, Sorry about that my friends!
Superman Has the Nintendo quality seal, heck for that matter so does Aquaman, so does charlie's Angels for Game Cube and nfl blitz 2003 for gameboy advance.
So Here's how much a nintendo quality seal Matters
Okay not to be rude here: but are you just randomly spouting out intelligent sounding stuff to get karma?
Like the line that's bothering me is (paraphrasing here)LIBERTIARIANS SUPPORT MORE GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS AND LAWS AND BEAURCAURCY ON PRIVATE COPRORATIONS BECAUSE IT ADVOCATES SMALL GOVERNMENT AND LESS GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE IN PRIVATE Enterprises ?!?!?!
Why I admit that almost all the media is surly not Libertarian, Libertarian's are generally known as those great "party/people of principal"(which is probly why we have none in high offices(oh RON PAUL! I WON"T FORGET ABOUT YOU, but that's one and he had to hide under the republicans).
Anyway the principle part would prevent them from advocating government interference; just because it would help them get their message across, advocating these rules are against their ideologies
Oh and just so I can utterly destroy your point(no offense here, I just find a bit disbelief at the lack of understanding of the libertarian position) Let's look at some leading Libertarian thinkers on this
The Cato Institute(leading Libertarian think think) http://www.cato.org/dispatch/07-23-03d.html#3: The FCC's media ownership restrictions are relics of a bygone era, according to Cato Institute communications policy experts Adam Thierer and Clyde Wayne Crews Jr. In a recent commentary, "The Big Media Boogyman," they argue that "these rules have become historic anachronisms that ignore new market conditions and the intense competition for our eyes and ears. Indeed, far from living in a world of 'information scarcity' that some fear, we now live in a world of information overload. The number of information and entertainment options at our disposal has almost become overwhelming and most of us struggle to figure out ways to filter and manage all the information we can choose from in an average day." Then notice the fact that Ron Paul(presidential candidate for the libertarian party in 88, now a congressman) Voted against this. Okay That's all Just had to clarify the Libertarian position here.
Heh, even though I'm not a full objectivist here it's a good way out in questions like this. IT"S ALL ABOUT RATIONALE AND Reason or something like that; Wow I wish I was an objectivist, It would be so easy to answer this right now.(in fact I read a piece once telling me why Libertarians should be objectivists because of just this situation) Most of my views is that we are all individuals, l'd come from objectivism but I disagree with part of it; so let's try something else here
My own personal opinion would be of individual soviengty(spelling off). Therefore most likely they would be anarchist capitalist if not for the fact that everyone must have police and laws to prevent someone from creating something that isn't anarcho-capatlist or where force is used
Where does my view of individual sovengity come from?
umm.................... freedom/liberty no force?
where does my view of freedom/liberty come from?
OH GOSH STOP THIS, I CAN TELL BY YOUR SIGNATURE THAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY WELL WE NEED GOD TO HAVE STANDERDS. So therefore I'm going to finally say that you proven to me that I have to believe in objectivism in the root philosophical layer it's the only way out
Well thanks my friend! hope that answers your question!
Whee! since you don't seem to know it, I'll give you the classic libertarian spiel about what these standards are.
The government's job is to protect you from force or fraud. Two homosexuals in a bedroom together,in private, that you never hear or see (and if you do hear them discussing it you have the option of just walking away) is in no way using force or fraud against you. Same with people using drugs all by their lonesome self(if they commit other crimes then punishment is due(Yeah, more parentheses: you might argue but drugs cause you to commit crimes, along with violent video games and violent movies and music and seeing purdy female faces; but generally here, possibly giving you an urge to commit a crime doesn't count.). Same with pretty much any consensual activity.
Consensual activities are not a thing for the government to regulate, no matter how dangerous it might be. If they want to put up warnings telling people that swimming in lighting storms during high tide when the rip current is extremely strong is probly not the most intelligent thing to do, that's fine by me; But forcing people to stay out of their private property and throwing them in jail if they refuse to is ludicrous. So there you go my friend, That's the role of the government to protect people from force or fraud(Now you can start arguing the finer points of these, as related to economics) but it's quite obvious that regulating private issues in private homes with consensual adults is force or fraud and isn't a proper function of the government.
Also Another thing to you general posters: I'm a bit fed up with people replying with stuff like YOU LIBERTIARIANS JUST WANT HATE HUMANS OR YOU ARE INTOLERANT MORONIC PEOPLE WITHOUT A CARE FOR LIFE. I can at least appreciate your views, even though I don't agree with them. For you socialists out there I could just as easy start being like COMMIE THIS AND COMME that, but I obviously don't ; Have some respect and do the same please.
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Yeah, before you finish your response, could you please my friend at least possibly learn that Libertarnism is not anarchy? All your complaints you keep on bringing up are ones directed at anarcho-capatalistim. In A libertiarian society THERE IS STILL Minimal Government
Libertiarians generally don't belive in force or fraud(unless force is used on you first); So sure, there is still the regulations that you can't kill people or use force or fraud; But you won't be prosecuted if you sell people toxic sludge and they know it's toxic sludge, claiming it's safe lemonade is a bit differnent though.
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OH INSIGHTFULL, Here's my try
Green = you keel over dead because there's no laws preventing people from putting toxic sludge in your soda
or a better analogy would be
Green = COMPLEATE DECIMATION AND MASS MURDERING OF CIVILANS WHO DON"T FOLLOW STALIN
Ignorance is fun; So is blindly labeling people anarchists without any awareness of the facts whatsoever.
even though I'm going to get flamebait here, I want to join in the enjoyment of ignorance. Understand what Libertarians are before you attack them. I'm pretty sure putting toxic sludge in someone's drink would be commiting murder? Why wouldn't that exist in libertarian.
Seriously guys, do you think if anybody at the studios or anywhere else thought this movie was even the least bit good, that they would be giving exclusive trailer rights to some online website that most of us have never even heard of?
Take it from me, the fact it's like this, is pretty good warning to keep away from the movie.
Or you can waste the minute of my life like I did watching it, and see for yourself what good fun there is.
The amount of Intrustion that governments want in our surfing is starting to irriate me greatly. This is all the more reason to get off-shore hosting and off-shore isp's going on
as I refear you to past slashdot link http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/09/ 223521 5&mode=thread
I was just curisous, as the intrustion on liberty is really starting to bug me, What if anyone thinks of the possiblty of an off-shore isp, using satillites or other types of communication.
I might not like people looking at some of the things they look at, But I certainly don't want the government cenorsing things.
The entire point of the Yet another Perl conferences is that they are aimed at people like the average slashdot user, with them being priced at 85 dollars. You don't have to be someone in a tech corporation , that has thousands of dollars to send their employees to conferences, to be able to go here. It's a full conference at lowered prices
The entire point is trying to bring Perl to the masses and get as many people together as possible from all uses of perl or even possibly using perl, to sit and talk about perl, with money not being a limit, a real community conference. They also has the ability for you as a user to give up and give your own small 5-mintue talk on Perl if you have expertise/experience on any particular part of it. This is the way to do conferences in the future, get as many smart people together and have them advance whatever you want, no open source conferences should be priced as high as some of the other ones I've seen.
In amazing news today it was discovered by the Ydnar the first-poster on Perl confrence:North America in slashdot forums, with the posting comment called of Duplicate? That in fact America and Canada have been separated as one, since the Americans decided they weren't too fond of those Canadians in 1776. Yndar was greeted by shock and amazement when he saw his posting which he thought for sure would receive a +5 insightful was modded down for being off topic. In speaking with Yndar's representatives he's currently sitting at home thinking of better things he can write for first postings in the future.
Oh, and just so this won't be entirely off topic, I'll use a yndar strategy here and ask some questions that make it seem like I have something to say about perl even though I could get the answers from the website most likely, what's the attendance like at these things? and is there anybody who comes as a php evangelist and just riots the entire time?
Heh, I don't see why anybody is actually bothering to respond to this guy, writing out extremly long rebbutals to everything he says.
I mean look at his username it's eggtroll for pete's sake, and just the fact that he said doom 3 should be written in vb says something. As the other people have already said, he's merarly showing how the slashdot moderator works.
(also another note to moderators I've seen: if your replying to someone else's off topic post, then it's not an off-topic post, Thank you)
Why in the world did this guy get modded up to a 5?. Did he even read any of the links that were in the article? Did the moderators even read any of the links in the article?
Futuremark made it absoulty clear that this is a test to measure the latest and greatest cards with all these new features against each other, as they said in there response, they are still supporting 3d mark 2001 which is meant to be used for common capabalities in cards.
The fact is, you can't measure the top of the line cards accuralty unless you include the latest and greatest features. It's like when measuring image quality of two cards, saying well this card supports 8x Anti-alaising, but there are cards out there that are used commonly that hardly even can do 4x anti-aliasing, so it's unfair to measure maximum image quality attainable as 8x vs 4x.
according to this person's post right here, as the majority of people are still using geforce 2's and before we couldn't even have any tests that support pixel or vertex shaders in cards. therefore it's a quite absurd comment
that Costa Rican users will be able to surf the internet free of charge over the next six months, through a pilot project in which municipal governments will regulate the time local users can spend on the system, based on demand in each locale.
really this is just great, you get everybody in Costa Rica using this service and everybody will be on for 10 seconds at a time. I mean does this count for people who have money to pay for internet acces? Are they regulated based on demand too?, even if they have the money to pay for internet access, it seems like a stupid plan to me. Get everybody using the internet sure. But don't mention the fact that you can only stay on for 30 seconds.
your ethier a windows supportor or you don't know what your talking about. nice msg there, though i wouldn't count it as right, I understand what your point is, but windows isn't the master, and we aren't the dogs, come up with some better metaphor. I personally don't feel like linux users are the dogs, the less ones, and although desecent 3 may not be the best of the best in the gaming area, it's part of the path towards becomeing a major gameing platform, personally i say read the article about linux gaming at gamespot.com, great news for the linux gaming community, and proof that soon, were get much more then just the scraps, and i'm out "-YOU HAVE TO CHOSE TO LIVE LIFE, AND THEN LIVE!"
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The problem is that nobody RUNS the latest versions of Windows and Office. Windows 2000 is the defacto Windows standard for us and there are new vulnerabilities every day it seems. Office 2000 is likewise the standard. Until 2005 rolls around I don't see Windows XP or Windows 2003 being anywhere other than extremely early adopters' machines.
Yep, I'm still running woody without and have yet to patch it since release date(about the same time windows 2000 came out! concidence!) hmm strange that Checking bugtraq there seems to be a FEW THOUSANDS VUNERABLITIES BY NOW FOR IT.
your thinking is bloody moronoic, it's like saying the problem is most linux users that don't know linux are running such old linux verisons without shadow password support. Can you imagine these people that never ever upgrade thier windows patch surviving in a linux enviroment?
please people, let's at least be realistic
Is anyone else one of thoese diehard fans that is just sitting to yourself right now and going: Now wait a darn second here, before you go all-outbashing Remember there is more to the story, all will be explained in MATRIX ONLINE coming out next year, just wait you'll see what a good build-up this has all been!
Oh whee, I got that link wrong. TO make that post work as I want it to, please pre-load gamerankings with the worst game sort routine, then click on that and it should work. Either that or you could just go yourself and click to the search for worst game.
Right now it kinda backfires and makes it seem sarcastic, Sorry about that my friends!
Superman Has the Nintendo quality seal, heck for that matter so does Aquaman, so does charlie's Angels for Game Cube and nfl blitz 2003 for gameboy advance.
So Here's how much a nintendo quality seal Matters
Okay not to be rude here: but are you just randomly spouting out intelligent sounding stuff to get karma?
Like the line that's bothering me is
(paraphrasing here)LIBERTIARIANS SUPPORT MORE GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS AND LAWS AND BEAURCAURCY ON PRIVATE COPRORATIONS BECAUSE IT ADVOCATES SMALL GOVERNMENT AND LESS GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE IN PRIVATE Enterprises
?!?!?!
Why I admit that almost all the media is surly not Libertarian, Libertarian's are generally known as those great "party/people of principal"(which is probly why we have none in high offices(oh RON PAUL! I WON"T FORGET ABOUT YOU, but that's one and he had to hide under the republicans).
Anyway the principle part would prevent them from advocating government interference; just because it would help them get their message across, advocating these rules are against their ideologies
Oh and just so I can utterly destroy your point(no offense here, I just find a bit disbelief at the lack of understanding of the libertarian position) Let's look at some leading Libertarian thinkers on this
The Cato Institute(leading Libertarian think think) http://www.cato.org/dispatch/07-23-03d.html#3: The FCC's media ownership restrictions are relics of a bygone era, according to Cato Institute communications policy experts Adam Thierer and Clyde Wayne Crews Jr. In a recent commentary, "The Big Media Boogyman," they argue that "these rules have become historic anachronisms that ignore new market conditions and the intense competition for our eyes and ears. Indeed, far from living in a world of 'information scarcity' that some fear, we now live in a world of information overload. The number of information and entertainment options at our disposal has almost become overwhelming and most of us struggle to figure out ways to filter and manage all the information we can choose from in an average day."
Then notice the fact that Ron Paul(presidential candidate for the libertarian party in 88, now a congressman) Voted against this. Okay That's all Just had to clarify the Libertarian position here.
Heh, even though I'm not a full objectivist here it's a good way out in questions like this. IT"S ALL ABOUT RATIONALE AND Reason or something like that; Wow I wish I was an objectivist, It would be so easy to answer this right now.(in fact I read a piece once telling me why Libertarians should be objectivists because of just this situation) Most of my views is that we are all individuals, l'd come from objectivism but I disagree with part of it; so let's try something else here
My own personal opinion would be of individual soviengty(spelling off). Therefore most likely they would be anarchist capitalist if not for the fact that everyone must have police and laws to prevent someone from creating something that isn't anarcho-capatlist or where force is used
Where does my view of individual sovengity come from?
umm.................... freedom/liberty no force?
where does my view of freedom/liberty come from?
OH GOSH STOP THIS, I CAN TELL BY YOUR SIGNATURE THAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY WELL WE NEED GOD TO HAVE STANDERDS. So therefore I'm going to finally say that you proven to me that I have to believe in objectivism in the root philosophical layer it's the only way out
Well thanks my friend! hope that answers your question!
Whee! since you don't seem to know it, I'll give you the classic libertarian spiel about what these standards are.
,in private, that you never hear or see (and if you do hear them discussing it you have the option of just walking away) is in no way using force or fraud against you. Same with people using drugs all by their lonesome self(if they commit other crimes then punishment is due(Yeah, more parentheses: you might argue but drugs cause you to commit crimes, along with violent video games and violent movies and music and seeing purdy female faces; but generally here, possibly giving you an urge to commit a crime doesn't count.). Same with pretty much any consensual activity.
The government's job is to protect you from force or fraud. Two homosexuals in a bedroom together
Consensual activities are not a thing for the government to regulate, no matter how dangerous it might be. If they want to put up warnings telling people that swimming in lighting storms during high tide when the rip current is extremely strong is probly not the most intelligent thing to do, that's fine by me; But forcing people to stay out of their private property and throwing them in jail if they refuse to is ludicrous. So there you go my friend, That's the role of the government to protect people from force or fraud(Now you can start arguing the finer points of these, as related to economics) but it's quite obvious that regulating private issues in private homes with consensual adults is force or fraud and isn't a proper function of the government.
Also Another thing to you general posters: I'm a bit fed up with people replying with stuff like YOU LIBERTIARIANS JUST WANT HATE HUMANS OR YOU ARE INTOLERANT MORONIC PEOPLE WITHOUT A CARE FOR LIFE. I can at least appreciate your views, even though I don't agree with them. For you socialists out there I could just as easy start being like COMMIE THIS AND COMME that, but I obviously don't ; Have some respect and do the same please.
Yeah, before you finish your response, could you please my friend at least possibly learn that Libertarnism is not anarchy? All your complaints you keep on bringing up are ones directed at anarcho-capatalistim. In A libertiarian society THERE IS STILL Minimal Government
Libertiarians generally don't belive in force or fraud(unless force is used on you first); So sure, there is still the regulations that you can't kill people or use force or fraud; But you won't be prosecuted if you sell people toxic sludge and they know it's toxic sludge, claiming it's safe lemonade is a bit differnent though.
OH INSIGHTFULL, Here's my try
Green = you keel over dead because there's no laws preventing people from putting toxic sludge in your soda
or a better analogy would be
Green = COMPLEATE DECIMATION AND MASS MURDERING OF CIVILANS WHO DON"T FOLLOW STALIN
Ignorance is fun; So is blindly labeling people anarchists without any awareness of the facts whatsoever.
even though I'm going to get flamebait here, I want to join in the enjoyment of ignorance. Understand what Libertarians are before you attack them. I'm pretty sure putting toxic sludge in someone's drink would be commiting murder? Why wouldn't that exist in libertarian.
Thanks!
Seriously guys, do you think if anybody at the studios or anywhere else thought this movie was even the least bit good, that they would be giving exclusive trailer rights to some online website that most of us have never even heard of?
Take it from me, the fact it's like this, is pretty good warning to keep away from the movie.
Or you can waste the minute of my life like I did watching it, and see for yourself what good fun there is.
Hooray for slashdot running advertisements!
Thanks
-Finalfantasydog
The amount of Intrustion that governments want in our surfing is starting to irriate me greatly. This is all the more reason to get off-shore hosting and off-shore isp's going on
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as I refear you to past slashdot link
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/09
I was just curisous, as the intrustion on liberty is really starting to bug me, What if anyone thinks of the possiblty of an off-shore isp, using satillites or other types of communication.
I might not like people looking at some of the things they look at, But I certainly don't want the government cenorsing things.
The entire point of the Yet another Perl conferences is that they are aimed at people like the average slashdot user, with them being priced at 85 dollars. You don't have to be someone in a tech corporation , that has thousands of dollars to send their employees to conferences, to be able to go here. It's a full conference at lowered prices
The entire point is trying to bring Perl to the masses and get as many people together as possible from all uses of perl or even possibly using perl, to sit and talk about perl, with money not being a limit, a real community conference. They also has the ability for you as a user to give up and give your own small 5-mintue talk on Perl if you have expertise/experience on any particular part of it. This is the way to do conferences in the future, get as many smart people together and have them advance whatever you want, no open source conferences should be priced as high as some of the other ones I've seen.
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In amazing news today it was discovered by the Ydnar the first-poster on Perl confrence:North America in slashdot forums, with the posting comment called of Duplicate? That in fact America and Canada have been separated as one, since the Americans decided they weren't too fond of those Canadians in 1776. Yndar was greeted by shock and amazement when he saw his posting which he thought for sure would receive a +5 insightful was modded down for being off topic. In speaking with Yndar's representatives he's currently sitting at home thinking of better things he can write for first postings in the future.
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Oh, and just so this won't be entirely off topic, I'll use a yndar strategy here and ask some questions that make it seem like I have something to say about perl even though I could get the answers from the website most likely, what's the attendance like at these things? and is there anybody who comes as a php evangelist and just riots the entire time?
Thanks thats all
Heh, I don't see why anybody is actually bothering to respond to this guy, writing out extremly long rebbutals to everything he says.
I mean look at his username it's eggtroll for pete's sake, and just the fact that he said doom 3 should be written in vb says something. As the other people have already said, he's merarly showing how the slashdot moderator works.
(also another note to moderators I've seen: if your replying to someone else's off topic post, then it's not an off-topic post, Thank you)
Why in the world did this guy get modded up to a 5?. Did he even read any of the links that were in the article? Did the moderators even read any of the links in the article?
Futuremark made it absoulty clear that this is a test to measure the latest and greatest cards with all these new features against each other, as they said in there response, they are still supporting 3d mark 2001 which is meant to be used for common capabalities in cards.
The fact is, you can't measure the top of the line cards accuralty unless you include the latest and greatest features. It's like when measuring image quality of two cards, saying well this card supports 8x Anti-alaising, but there are cards out there that are used commonly that hardly even can do 4x anti-aliasing, so it's unfair to measure maximum image quality attainable as 8x vs 4x.
according to this person's post right here, as the majority of people are still using geforce 2's and before we couldn't even have any tests that support pixel or vertex shaders in cards. therefore it's a quite absurd comment
yes they let all of nuclear secrets hard drives get out, yet thier worried about dd not working to overwirte thier drives
that Costa Rican users will be able to surf the internet free of charge over the next six months, through a pilot project in which municipal governments will regulate the time local users can spend on the system, based on demand in each locale.
really this is just great, you get everybody in Costa Rica using this service and everybody will be on for 10 seconds at a time. I mean does this count for people who have money to pay for internet acces? Are they regulated based on demand too?, even if they have the money to pay for internet access, it seems like a stupid plan to me. Get everybody using the internet sure. But don't mention the fact that you can only stay on for 30 seconds.
- "YOU NEED TO CHOSE LIFE AND THEN LIVE"
This is a little bit offtopic, but does anyone know when the Japan linux expo is, i can't find any info at all about it, did they cancel it this year?
you gotta embrace the suits, it's the only way to get the money flowing in.
-"YOU NEED TO CHOSE TO LIVE LIFE AND THEN LIVE!"
your ethier a windows supportor or you don't know what your talking about. nice msg there, though i wouldn't count it as right, I understand what your point is, but windows isn't the master, and we aren't the dogs, come up with some better metaphor. I personally don't feel like linux users are the dogs, the less ones, and although desecent 3 may not be the best of the best in the gaming area, it's part of the path towards becomeing a major gameing platform, personally i say read the article about linux gaming at gamespot.com, great news for the linux gaming community, and proof that soon, were get much more then just the scraps, and i'm out "-YOU HAVE TO CHOSE TO LIVE LIFE, AND THEN LIVE!"