Does using CVS as compared to the lkml method of submitting patches make a difference in terms of quality/stability of code and speed in which bugs get fixed?
I figure since theres been so much speculation, its probably better to ask somebody whos likely to have done both.
Exactly. 4-5 people is hardly "Enterprise". When you've got your boss screaming and systems supporting tens to hundreds of thousands of users, you might be taken seriously.
The business I worked for needed a stable VM, stable NFS, stable journalling filesystem (ext3 is not the answer for all situations), high speed ethernet, hardware RAID (on newer hardware) and a fast TCP/IP stack.
With reiser & NFS having incompatabilities until about 2.4.10, the VM not being settled at all, various problems with intel ethernet drivers in earlier 2.4.x kernels, I think "stable" is far too generous a term.
Your not kidding. My boss (an ex-techie, turned manager, pretty good) refuses to calls them Managers Meetings, because no useful management actually happens that isn't overturned or changed later when the somebody thinks about asking the staff.
I mean, if things in Australia are like they are in the US, Blockbuster still charges a premium for DVD rental
Blockbuster deserves its own special category. Luckily even while the range of censored mainstream titles might be larger at blockbuster, over here (.au) they charge a lot more than your local video store.
The local store can also carry the uncensored films, and the more interesting films rejected by Blockbuster.
I havn't seen a blockbuster go broke yet.. but hopefully one day.
So in reality, its more like
Australian Consumer: 1
Independant Video Rental: 1
Warner & Friends: 0
Primus - Small, but I'm pretty sure they have there own link
Primus use Southern Cross for some international traffic and split the rest between Optus & Telstra. They run their own exchanges (mainly for voice) in at least Sydney & Melbourne.
Optus has been spending a small fortune putting fiber between capitals and some regional centers to then onsell to the other telecoms and really cut into Telstra's market.
Quoth Piro from MegaTokyo [megatokyo.com]:
MT wills urvive like any other good property, based on it's ability to sell a reasonable amount of merchandise. If you would like to support MT, please visit our store and buy some swag:)
The crazy thing with MT is that the only thing they don't sell is the comic itself in dead-tree format.
RedHat is doing a great job concentrating on the corporate market, releasing stable, tested, supported distributions and getting third party vendors to support Linux.
It would be a great loss to have those resources "focus shift" to an unknown market with little to recommend it apart from being bankrolled by AOL/TW until they get bored of this whole linux thing.
Mandrake makes much better sense, as both companies are have the same aims, but with different technologies.
Similarly, a surprising number of online banking services, auction houses, etc are putting Windows-centric code on their sites, limiting site usability for many potential customers.
Oddly enough my bank just moved from away from its Java based online application.
It was deficient on a number of points.
It required java
It required a certificate to be generated on installation, and then manually copied to other PC's you wanted to use the application on. Certificates had to be regenerated every six months after win98 got re-installed.
It was developed under NT, and the developers didn't consider that not all filesystems have case insensitive filenames. So it didn't work under *nix.
The permissions it required included reading and writing from local files on the harddrive
It was plain slow, used some proprietary protocol behind the scenes, and was prone to communications breakdown, even while the website performed fine.
Contrast this with the new, purely web-based application.
Works on virtually all browsers that support javascript
OS agnostic
Can be used anywhere, without carrying around digital certificates
No requirement to read or write to local files
Its a one-off, but hopefully more sites and webmasters will get the message that simplicity and accessibility from many different platforms is all thats necessary.
Institute a "one strike you're out policy" on Nimda, email virii, spamming, and piracy. So far we have only had three disconnections
The whole post smells like a troll, and your figure above is ludicrously low.
I've worked for a small ISP (~50k users) and we were rejecting over 1100 virus infected mails per week. And that was just using simple subject line scanning.
One of the things that ticks me off most while maintaining code is magic numbers that just get added into a complex calculation with no explanation or obvious reason.
Speaking as a sysadmin of another small ISP, I can say we DO wan't metered billing because we get charged by the megabyte.
It gets a lot more complicated working out averages over types of customers and setting prices so that the lowest users pay off the high users downloads than just billing for use.
Of couse, if our bandwidth provider offered flat rage charges....
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Do NOT use cutesy names. (Homer, Marge, etc etc etc)
Hey! marge is the name of our backup server. Sure its cutesy, but it nags us incessantly until the tapes get changes just like Marge would.
I think its actually helpful to link the purpose of the server to a characteristic of the name.
CGI is neat, and its a great tool for a director to be able to expand his vision beyond what is physically possible. But it doesn't make a story.
Everyone marvelled at the CGI in Toy Story, but it was the characters, the laughs and the plot that made it a success. Compare to FF.
I havn't laughed that hard in a long time.... just wait till our marketing manager leaves his desk..
bwhahahhaa... many thanks for the link.
Does using CVS as compared to the lkml method of submitting patches make a difference in terms of quality/stability of code and speed in which bugs get fixed?
I figure since theres been so much speculation, its probably better to ask somebody whos likely to have done both.
Exactly. 4-5 people is hardly "Enterprise". When you've got your boss screaming and systems supporting tens to hundreds of thousands of users, you might be taken seriously.
The business I worked for needed a stable VM, stable NFS, stable journalling filesystem (ext3 is not the answer for all situations), high speed ethernet, hardware RAID (on newer hardware) and a fast TCP/IP stack.
With reiser & NFS having incompatabilities until about 2.4.10, the VM not being settled at all, various problems with intel ethernet drivers in earlier 2.4.x kernels, I think "stable" is far too generous a term.
Your not kidding. My boss (an ex-techie, turned manager, pretty good) refuses to calls them Managers Meetings, because no useful management actually happens that isn't overturned or changed later when the somebody thinks about asking the staff.
Post your company name & jobs email address and you'll never want for applicants.
The one problem I can see is working out how to scale that structure, and keeping performance levels consistant across teams.
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I'm still nervous about using 2.4 - Its really irritating to find production environments going down because the VM subsystem decided to kill mysqld
I mean, if things in Australia are like they are in the US, Blockbuster still charges a premium for DVD rental
Blockbuster deserves its own special category. Luckily even while the range of censored mainstream titles might be larger at blockbuster, over here (.au) they charge a lot more than your local video store.
The local store can also carry the uncensored films, and the more interesting films rejected by Blockbuster.
I havn't seen a blockbuster go broke yet.. but hopefully one day.
So in reality, its more like
Australian Consumer: 1
Independant Video Rental: 1
Warner & Friends: 0
This ruling probably won't benefit consumers because, as someone else has already pointed out, DVD's will cost more to rent than VHS tapes
At my local, walking-distance, independant video store new release DVD's are cheaper than their VHS equivalents at $5 compared to $7 (AUD)
Primus - Small, but I'm pretty sure they have there own link
Primus use Southern Cross for some international traffic and split the rest between Optus & Telstra. They run their own exchanges (mainly for voice) in at least Sydney & Melbourne.
Optus has been spending a small fortune putting fiber between capitals and some regional centers to then onsell to the other telecoms and really cut into Telstra's market.
Quoth Piro from MegaTokyo [megatokyo.com]: :)
MT wills urvive like any other good property, based on it's ability to sell a reasonable amount of merchandise. If you would like to support MT, please visit our store and buy some swag
The crazy thing with MT is that the only thing they don't sell is the comic itself in dead-tree format.
RedHat is doing a great job concentrating on the corporate market, releasing stable, tested, supported distributions and getting third party vendors to support Linux.
It would be a great loss to have those resources "focus shift" to an unknown market with little to recommend it apart from being bankrolled by AOL/TW until they get bored of this whole linux thing.
Mandrake makes much better sense, as both companies are have the same aims, but with different technologies.
When I last tried BeOS 4.5 (yes, I never tried 5)
Don't worry, 5 didn't have hardware supported OpenGL. If only Be had released their new network stack and beta opengl vid drivers...
Choose a product based on quality, not ideology
I'll choose a product on whatever terms I like. Quality, price, whether it was made by slave labour, whether it contains real animal fur, etc.
Saying everyone should base a purchasing decision purely on quality is the rediculous statement.
Oddly enough my bank just moved from away from its Java based online application.
It was deficient on a number of points.
It required java
It required a certificate to be generated on installation, and then manually copied to other PC's you wanted to use the application on. Certificates had to be regenerated every six months after win98 got re-installed.
It was developed under NT, and the developers didn't consider that not all filesystems have case insensitive filenames. So it didn't work under *nix.
The permissions it required included reading and writing from local files on the harddrive
It was plain slow, used some proprietary protocol behind the scenes, and was prone to communications breakdown, even while the website performed fine.
Contrast this with the new, purely web-based application.
Works on virtually all browsers that support javascript
OS agnostic
Can be used anywhere, without carrying around digital certificates
No requirement to read or write to local files
Its a one-off, but hopefully more sites and webmasters will get the message that simplicity and accessibility from many different platforms is all thats necessary.
Institute a "one strike you're out policy" on Nimda, email virii, spamming, and piracy. So far we have only had three disconnections
The whole post smells like a troll, and your figure above is ludicrously low.
I've worked for a small ISP (~50k users) and we were rejecting over 1100 virus infected mails per week. And that was just using simple subject line scanning.
Why 2? Whats so special about 2?
One of the things that ticks me off most while maintaining code is magic numbers that just get added into a complex calculation with no explanation or obvious reason.
It runs on IA64 and rumor has it that the Alpha is still maintained internally.
And I heard a rumour that billg enjoys shoving gerbils up his anus.
Was there a point to that story? I like stories.
While doing the RHCE a few months back, the subject of wu-ftpd came up and all the existing sysadmins kept asking "Why ship this piece of crud?".
The tech (and unfortunatly I forget his name) claimed that a code audit had been done on wu-ftpd by RH engineers, and it should be safe now.
RH should just stop throwing good money after bad.
Speaking as a sysadmin of another small ISP, I can say we DO wan't metered billing because we get charged by the megabyte.
It gets a lot more complicated working out averages over types of customers and setting prices so that the lowest users pay off the high users downloads than just billing for use.
Of couse, if our bandwidth provider offered flat rage charges....
Even if the ex-@home tech's were a bit disgruntled about moving from Sun hardware/OS to Linux.
That's OK. your tears say more than real evidence ever could.