The real reasons against mass surveillance with minimal secret oversight have seldom if ever been pointed out to or thought about by your average American.
I've talked to many family, friends, co-workers, and acquaintances and they all say the same thing in general - "I'm not that interesting so it really dosent matter." Neither am I but while true it's far from the problem. The problem is while mass surveillance has always existed, it so pervasive, massive, and easily accessable from databases that it is a game changer for doctoring the entire political and financial climate of the United States.
They have incriminating material on every last CEO, judge, congressman, president, senator, and even on down to the mayor of the random city of your choice. They can, and I have no doubt are already implementing, blackmailing, schemeing and conspiracies against the public. Take a look at the reaction of the whole European MP data collection. But it goes beyond that. Knowing absolutely the political preferences alone is bad, far worse than the intrusive data collection ubiquitous today in both parties. In fact without serious and public oversight this type of system is a far bigger threat to American (and every country with any freedoms left) democracy than any terrorist group ever could be.
They are making it a $100,000 fine to even access your own vehicle computer. Per vehicle per offense. Yet in the same document it's a 5,000 dollar per day 1m maximum fine for any non-compliance by the manufacturer. Fcuk this nonsense. This is what happens when you let lobbying get out of control.
We live in an age where computers with excellent programming have extreme trouble and can't deal with reading some squiggly letters yet we expect them to flawlessly navigate in the real world equivalent of a captcha phrase? Adaptive cruse, proximity warning and even lane following on the freeway seem to be achievable today with a reasonable level of safety. But it's simply not going to be fully autonomous until we have as creative algorithms as living things employ. I mean its a sad state of affairs when it takes multiple cameras, lidar, sonar, radar and more, with world class programming, to fail at besting a half attentive human basically using a stereo camera setup alone. You have to manually enter the entire map on the route to even compare and that simply isn't scalable or even the same thing.
Yes it's true that climate models do have some issues (as any science does), and are constantly refined. It's also true that, from a scientific perspective, the earth will be quite habitable even under the most dire predictions. This is NOT where the major problems associated with global warming come from. It's the changing of natural resources everyone is used to. It could require massive engineering projects or moving tens of millions of people and abandon whole cities near sea level. It could cause massive heat waves that could kill tens of thousands like what is starting to happen in India. It could require whole regions to abandon the familiar agriculture practices, and in some areas leave no alternative production. It could destabilize whole regions of the world and cause massive wars killing millions - far worse than any direct effect. This is the real danger of global warming, not simply a few degrees of temperature rise on an otherwise bearable average value.
Typically there is an income distribution agreement where some of the money goes to the inventors and the majority gets distributed within the university itself. While its difficult to provoke one to action, never mess with a large university that has a law school as they are just as vicious as a large corporation, if not more formidable.
The whole article is just a book promotion and is full of some poorly thought through arguments. That said, the real reason we wont have autonomous cars soon is the same reason captcha bot checks still work so well in 2015 - our ability to get computers to successfully recognize patterns is still in its infancy. The same reason why a 5 year old with no training beats the best web crawling bots and galaxy classification and analysis for many systems is crowd sourced to people with 10 minutes of training. I would argue that we nearly have the processing power necessary already and average humans currently beat the pants off state of the art autonomous systems with inferior sensors (stereo cameras and microphones, dual 3-axis accelerometer and gyro and some tactile sensors). What we lack are the creative algorithms that will allow better than human navigation.
Step 1: actually make them micro sized
Step 2: hollow up those bones
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Add some wings and finally get some closure on that damn proverb!
As a matter of fact, the computer will know about the problem long (hundreds of milliseconds) before you see it and will already be reacting.
The idea that you could react faster or make a better critical decision than the computer is sort of funny actually.
Like those web crawling bots that so easily fill in the captcha boxes? Matter of fact they must be filling it in before i even start to process what is even happening!
More like it will be a true revolution when sensor fusion algorithms work half as well as distracted drivers. We are still decades away from even writing algorithms capable of interpreting patterns half as good as an average Joe.
I, along with anyone from the 21st century, should have a strong distaste for anything like this where if you swap out the groups it becomes incredibly distasteful. It's like having women only gyms but look what happens when you try to have a men only gym. What they should do instead is accept anyone but make it more comfortable for everyone. What about the Hispanic and black males that are even more under represented than women in CS? Why is it ok to throw them under the bus based solely on thier genitals and the perception some women dont want to associate with them (as was stated in the article)?
I can only hope at some point people realize two things - That there really are gender differences and women in general may not be interested as much in computer science as men until the social aspect changes and that's perfectly OK - That the time to expose people to computers and technology starts as soon as they can start to talk/think. If you wait until people are already in grade school or higher the natural interests they may develop can be more easily displaced by other interests influenced by societal pressures.
With respect to the remote weapons operators, using drones and unmanned vehicles to "fight" a war doesn't count as warfare. The reason is that the country persuing this route has no skin in the fight. It is not risking its own people (while putting the population: military and civilian, of the target state at risk).
Tell that to the civilians who were too close to or were mistaken for military targets and killed. By employing these methods you are putting considerable resources into an actual war. Left unchecked these devices could easily kill thousands or millions - after all why couldn't the drones carry nuclear weapons? The people who these are being used on have skin in the fight and the skin does not have to be symmetrical for it to be war.
The other aspect of proper warfare is occupation. Without that, an attack is merely destruction of either people or property. It might achieve a certain, intended, goal - especially for a domestic audience baying for blood. But as a long term, inter-country conflict, without an occupation to produce long-term changes in the mindset of the "enemy" population, it fails.
Thankfully this is true today, provided you dont just slaughter them all and move in. But I have a feeling we are about half a century and a decade or two away from automated occupation. We will have drones and unmanned vehicles and many fully autonomous robots of war making 24/7/365 never ending occupation cheap easy affordable and without possible loss of life to the dominating side. What could be more humiliating than living under the rule of automated machinery that is just itching to kill you at any second for little or no reason?
This will be reduced to some completely unimportant sum like 18 million. Further its hilarious how the CEO is blaming rogue American engineers when it's clearly a upper management decision. Reading 'they launched an independent investigation' actually made me spit up my coffee it was so hilarious.
Danger is what makes electrical projects fun! I learned how much energy capacitors store when i discharged a 220uF one charged to about 300V through my chest. Knocked me down and I went into mild shock, taught me plenty as a youngster.
Same with the energy stored in flywheels, i wondered why the metal cylinder i was spinning was deforming so badly then calculated it was because the g-force of acceleration exceeded 2 thousand gravities. Luckily no one was killed in the second one. It sure gave me some excitement and drove my early desire to learn engineering.
Women were not included in the study design, and it was not race insensitive.
For all we know, there could be different reactions, based on pain response, just as people from some regions can't tolerate milk or alcohol, while others can.
Sounds to me like you want to be stung on the penis. Go ahead and let us all know how that turns out for you.
Not a single person at the government school or the government police force who mistreated this kid will ever face even a mild consequence. No one will apologize for their role.
Not true at all. Obviously some promotions are in order and that's not a mild consequence.
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Let's not even include a link to it!
That's just what we call pillow talk.
The real reasons against mass surveillance with minimal secret oversight have seldom if ever been pointed out to or thought about by your average American.
I've talked to many family, friends, co-workers, and acquaintances and they all say the same thing in general - "I'm not that interesting so it really dosent matter." Neither am I but while true it's far from the problem. The problem is while mass surveillance has always existed, it so pervasive, massive, and easily accessable from databases that it is a game changer for doctoring the entire political and financial climate of the United States.
They have incriminating material on every last CEO, judge, congressman, president, senator, and even on down to the mayor of the random city of your choice. They can, and I have no doubt are already implementing, blackmailing, schemeing and conspiracies against the public. Take a look at the reaction of the whole European MP data collection.
But it goes beyond that. Knowing absolutely the political preferences alone is bad, far worse than the intrusive data collection ubiquitous today in both parties. In fact without serious and public oversight this type of system is a far bigger threat to American (and every country with any freedoms left) democracy than any terrorist group ever could be.
That's exactly what this looks like. Retribution for the whole VW scandal.
They are making it a $100,000 fine to even access your own vehicle computer. Per vehicle per offense. Yet in the same document it's a 5,000 dollar per day 1m maximum fine for any non-compliance by the manufacturer.
Fcuk this nonsense. This is what happens when you let lobbying get out of control.
For the sake of my family name, do NOT invent a disruptive technology involving fecal matter.
We live in an age where computers with excellent programming have extreme trouble and can't deal with reading some squiggly letters yet we expect them to flawlessly navigate in the real world equivalent of a captcha phrase?
Adaptive cruse, proximity warning and even lane following on the freeway seem to be achievable today with a reasonable level of safety. But it's simply not going to be fully autonomous until we have as creative algorithms as living things employ. I mean its a sad state of affairs when it takes multiple cameras, lidar, sonar, radar and more, with world class programming, to fail at besting a half attentive human basically using a stereo camera setup alone. You have to manually enter the entire map on the route to even compare and that simply isn't scalable or even the same thing.
Since when is "could" an assertion? If I had said "will" or "does" maybe you would have a point.
Yes it's true that climate models do have some issues (as any science does), and are constantly refined. It's also true that, from a scientific perspective, the earth will be quite habitable even under the most dire predictions.
This is NOT where the major problems associated with global warming come from. It's the changing of natural resources everyone is used to. It could require massive engineering projects or moving tens of millions of people and abandon whole cities near sea level. It could cause massive heat waves that could kill tens of thousands like what is starting to happen in India. It could require whole regions to abandon the familiar agriculture practices, and in some areas leave no alternative production. It could destabilize whole regions of the world and cause massive wars killing millions - far worse than any direct effect.
This is the real danger of global warming, not simply a few degrees of temperature rise on an otherwise bearable average value.
Worse when its a state university and therefore government.
Typically there is an income distribution agreement where some of the money goes to the inventors and the majority gets distributed within the university itself.
While its difficult to provoke one to action, never mess with a large university that has a law school as they are just as vicious as a large corporation, if not more formidable.
The whole article is just a book promotion and is full of some poorly thought through arguments.
That said, the real reason we wont have autonomous cars soon is the same reason captcha bot checks still work so well in 2015 - our ability to get computers to successfully recognize patterns is still in its infancy. The same reason why a 5 year old with no training beats the best web crawling bots and galaxy classification and analysis for many systems is crowd sourced to people with 10 minutes of training.
I would argue that we nearly have the processing power necessary already and average humans currently beat the pants off state of the art autonomous systems with inferior sensors (stereo cameras and microphones, dual 3-axis accelerometer and gyro and some tactile sensors). What we lack are the creative algorithms that will allow better than human navigation.
Step 1: actually make them micro sized
Step 2: hollow up those bones
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Add some wings and finally get some closure on that damn proverb!
Exactly this.
As a matter of fact, the computer will know about the problem long (hundreds of milliseconds) before you see it and will already be reacting.
The idea that you could react faster or make a better critical decision than the computer is sort of funny actually.
Like those web crawling bots that so easily fill in the captcha boxes? Matter of fact they must be filling it in before i even start to process what is even happening! More like it will be a true revolution when sensor fusion algorithms work half as well as distracted drivers. We are still decades away from even writing algorithms capable of interpreting patterns half as good as an average Joe.
The United States will accept the standard when the rest of the world ditches that stupid metric system and go back to real units.
I, along with anyone from the 21st century, should have a strong distaste for anything like this where if you swap out the groups it becomes incredibly distasteful. It's like having women only gyms but look what happens when you try to have a men only gym.
What they should do instead is accept anyone but make it more comfortable for everyone. What about the Hispanic and black males that are even more under represented than women in CS? Why is it ok to throw them under the bus based solely on thier genitals and the perception some women dont want to associate with them (as was stated in the article)?
I can only hope at some point people realize two things - That there really are gender differences and women in general may not be interested as much in computer science as men until the social aspect changes and that's perfectly OK - That the time to expose people to computers and technology starts as soon as they can start to talk/think. If you wait until people are already in grade school or higher the natural interests they may develop can be more easily displaced by other interests influenced by societal pressures.
With respect to the remote weapons operators, using drones and unmanned vehicles to "fight" a war doesn't count as warfare. The reason is that the country persuing this route has no skin in the fight. It is not risking its own people (while putting the population: military and civilian, of the target state at risk).
Tell that to the civilians who were too close to or were mistaken for military targets and killed. By employing these methods you are putting considerable resources into an actual war. Left unchecked these devices could easily kill thousands or millions - after all why couldn't the drones carry nuclear weapons? The people who these are being used on have skin in the fight and the skin does not have to be symmetrical for it to be war.
The other aspect of proper warfare is occupation. Without that, an attack is merely destruction of either people or property. It might achieve a certain, intended, goal - especially for a domestic audience baying for blood. But as a long term, inter-country conflict, without an occupation to produce long-term changes in the mindset of the "enemy" population, it fails.
Thankfully this is true today, provided you dont just slaughter them all and move in. But I have a feeling we are about half a century and a decade or two away from automated occupation. We will have drones and unmanned vehicles and many fully autonomous robots of war making 24/7/365 never ending occupation cheap easy affordable and without possible loss of life to the dominating side. What could be more humiliating than living under the rule of automated machinery that is just itching to kill you at any second for little or no reason?
Umm looks like they got away with it for years.
This will be reduced to some completely unimportant sum like 18 million. Further its hilarious how the CEO is blaming rogue American engineers when it's clearly a upper management decision. Reading 'they launched an independent investigation' actually made me spit up my coffee it was so hilarious.
Danger is what makes electrical projects fun! I learned how much energy capacitors store when i discharged a 220uF one charged to about 300V through my chest. Knocked me down and I went into mild shock, taught me plenty as a youngster.
Same with the energy stored in flywheels, i wondered why the metal cylinder i was spinning was deforming so badly then calculated it was because the g-force of acceleration exceeded 2 thousand gravities. Luckily no one was killed in the second one. It sure gave me some excitement and drove my early desire to learn engineering.
At least the guy isn't being criminally held liable for bringing this to everyone's attention.
Women were not included in the study design, and it was not race insensitive.
For all we know, there could be different reactions, based on pain response, just as people from some regions can't tolerate milk or alcohol, while others can.
Sounds to me like you want to be stung on the penis. Go ahead and let us all know how that turns out for you.
So.. I assume there will be consequences for the LEOs involved?
Oh yeah. No, just consequences for the kid.
Sad.
Are you kidding? Of course there will be consequences! Promotions all around for a job well done.
Not a single person at the government school or the government police force who mistreated this kid will ever face even a mild consequence. No one will apologize for their role.
Not true at all. Obviously some promotions are in order and that's not a mild consequence.