"Project Builder" isn't bad. it's made with GCC as the default compiler. Apple is also working with the GCC people so hopefully all the optimizing they do for the powerpc chip will be accepted and incorporated with new releases of GCC 3.x. something that the other innovator company isn't doing.
my OS X box has xwindows installed with wmaker (thanks to fink) . so yes, in theory i can dream about having other people use my machine as a xserver. but they have there own macs. if they really needed to log into my machine, they can SSH. OS X is a multi user OS (i blame it on the BSD core).
now, where OS X lacks is in games. but i get by with watching DVDs, MP3s, divx and all the gnu stuff that this OS supports.
1.) comes with a "Terminal" program
2.) default shell is tcsh
3.) there is vi. you could of course compile most things that are ported to BSD.
the default applications go into/Applications. Each application is in it's own folder. Stuff like Internet Explorer and the DVD player are there. If i used Toast or if Photoshop was available for OSX, it would probably install there. there is a/usr along with the/usr/local among other things.
the applications in/Applications are organize nicely in there own folders complete with XML files. which is a lot nicer than having one big registry like in windows. to the GUI user, the application folders is an executable binary. you click on it and it reads the XML files and gets the appropriate binary to execute (among other information). to the CLI user, it's just another folder with XML and binaries in there.
i don't know much about cocoa. i'm just an end user at this point. i just use gcc, mozilla, ssh and vi. along with playing DVDs, divx and MP3s.
it's a nice OS. it'll do nice things. i wish it looked more like OS 9 or NextStep, but not both with the aqua look.
The great thing is... you're not bored! I'm finding that I'm trying to find more addictions! I'd like to have a guitar playing addiction to go with my flirting addiction with the opposite sex addiction. Which of course takes time from my studying addiction while drinking caffine. Which I do after I fulfill my gaming addiction after finishing the sleeping addiction.
I think you should try kicking the water addiction first. Then the air.
I don't think average joe customers care about linux at all. Even my hippie friends who want to save the world don't really care about linux too much. Average joe customer also don't care about *BSD on the dreamcast. Average joe customer fear computers and live with windows. They also hate math ( but love to correct your spelling and grammer ). This is for the hobbiest.
You're right, average joe customers don't care what OS they're running. Many geeks do. This is for the geeks that would to fiddle some more with hardware that they already own. It has a hard drive, ethernet, firewire, USB and the glorious VGA adapter.
Some people want it becuase they can get it. Some people want it because they hate MicroSoft. Others will use it for yet another internet terminal (YAIT, or in GNU speak: YAIT is not a terminal).
I want it because I want to support linux. If more people realize that they don't need to use windows ALL the time (just some of the time), I am happy. This is from vent up anger from being a sysadmin.
I also want it so I can play my games (love MGS2) and hack it too. I could also wait for some hacker to port linux to the XBOX but I don't have an XBOX and have less reasons to buy one. All the games I want to play are either already on the PS2 or will be made for my PC, which will always be faster becuase by default my personality requires it that way.
Those are some of the thoughts I have on why to get one. Basically, because you can. I think that the average joe user won't care. I don't see them wanting to pay $200 more for the ethernet and harddrive to turn the PS2 into a computer. But one day the PS2 will by default come with the harddrive and ethernet. Then they still won't care about the OS, but they buy the feature equipe one for $300. they'll have the option of paying $40 to AOL who'll give them access online and a CD/DVD that runs there software on linux. They'll skip the MS-tax. Maybe Sony will do the same thing and make the PS2 apart of there digital hub. This makes the PS2 versitle and plays games too!
For now, it's just for the geeks who wants it. Just like how computers use to be. Just for the people willing to fork over a load of money for interesting hardware. It could be totally useless and worthless when i get it, but that also happen with my palm.
oh and while everyone is politely requesting that apple have linux support. can you also ask them to update quicktime so that it has OSX support. the large preview only works with quicktime 5 which isn't compatible with OSX.
plus, the taliban is getting free food from the sky! some of it gives you lead poisioning though.
i think it's all about the gamecube. except that i need metal gear, ICO and final fantasy X. x-box, smesh-box. i'll wait to see what my x-box counterparts have to say about it. if they gave me a game i want, i'd get it. even if it's a crappy tekken tag tournament.
hey, want some food? it comes in a nice yellow canister.
resident evil and resident evil 0 will released on the gamecube. resident evil 0 is supposely only gamecube specific and not to mention any other new resident evil games according to a PS2 magazine i read at 7-11.
it's sad to hear that adults won't enjoy games with characters like link, mario and metroid. i'm glad i'm only 27, it must suck to be adult. this also allows me to play ico and dark cloud on the PS2.
that was definately true for the PS2, but nintendo is bringing out games that people already like. i've spent weeks playing smash brothers and now melee is coming out! wave race was really fun and i have a friend buying the system just for that. everyone knows tony hawk rocks. then you have resident evil, resident evil 0, metroid and monkey ball! urr... maybe not monkey ball. but even if they look crappy, these area all fun games you've played before, but improved.
wait, why am i excited. i don't have a job to afford swaying away from my PS2.
anyway, it's more fun to do than worry about another plane crash.
linux isn't bloated. even if it is, you can unbloat it by not compiling what you don't need in. the kernel can be made realitively small.
i don't see how the 2.2 kernel is more unstable than the 2.0 kernel or the 2.0 kernel is more unstable than the.99 kernel.
it's gotten bigger, to better handle things like SMP, but i wouldn't call that being bloated. the solaris kernel is far bigger than the linux kernel and i haven't heard anyone say that's bloated. it's also far smaller than the win2k kernel.
i also don't see a lack of direction with linux, they keep making the kernel better for SMP, small appliances, workstations, networking, you name it.
just like windows.
intel engineers helped optimized Flask, Flask can be use for DVD copying, tom shows you how to copy DVDs. why isn't anyone being sued here? it's only fair that they should be sued by the MPAA like everyone else. they're helping support pirating.
this may put the DeCess more in the limelight. which could be a good thing.
phantom menance sucked so bad, who cares about the midiclorians. we were too busy trying to kill jar jar.
anyway, the review is just saying that the movie didn't have any character development, a coherent story line and was badly directed (unlike star wars). he only mentions the science of it near the end, totally only one paragrah.
quick! someone recompile them a new kernel so they can run linux! just make sure you compile it for the 386.
i would do it, but i'm already compiling mozilla.
then i want to play a game of unreal tournament and pre-order my PSX2. so i have no time left (unless i stop reading slashdot).
"freaking" the term, in the time when i was in highschool, meant when people are dirty dancing. i can understand why this would be rated with cyber terrorism. it promotes bodily contact and bad dancing, which could lead to unholiness.
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i agree with you, they may mean "Phreaking". they may have typed it wrong. the letters "P" and "h" are very close together on the keyboard.
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i bet you a PC can still be as efficient as an AMIGA. stick BeOS on there. when SGI is done porting things over, stick linux on a "PC".
okay, i know you meant windows when you meant "PC". but it's a pet peeve of mine. ever since the mac vs windows wars, the word "PC" has gotten a bad rap. this is sorta like the whole "hacker" and "cracker" thing.
i can understand them wanting a unified system. i'm all for that. i feel that they were going to make it into a sparc box anyway. i was actually
hoping they would. maybe then i can have a sparc box for really cheap. =)
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i just don't buy the exscuse that they can't concentrate on more than one OS. maybe they are stretching themselves thin. then they should really think hard before fixing something that's not broken.
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once they put solaris on there, it'll cease to be cobalt boxes. they'll be sun appliances. they could have build there own sun appliances without buying cobalt if they were going to rip it apart and make it a sparc box.
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seeing that it's easier to buy a "branding" than make one, they bought cobalt. so there goes a linux company.
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i'm hoping whatever sun does, the boxes aren't too expensive. then i can really have a nice cube box that isn't a mac. not that i don't want a mac,
i just don't want to have to have 128 Megs of ram to run an OS.
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anyway, i agree with you, DOWN with MICROSOFT.
cobalt had the engergy to drive linux on there systems before sun bought them out. why don't they just let the same people handle linux?
just tell the cobalt people what needs to be done so there's a streamless intergration with the rest of sun.
i know they probably bought cobalt for there "branding" since they probably would have a hard time concentrating on selling a similiar product to market. i mean why try to woo buyers with hype when someone else has done it. just buy them!
wait... what makes sun think they can concentrate on net appliances now?
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i didn't find a telnet server on my OS X box. just SSH. i feel ripped off. ;)
"Project Builder" isn't bad. it's made with GCC as the default compiler. Apple is also working with the GCC people so hopefully all the optimizing they do for the powerpc chip will be accepted and incorporated with new releases of GCC 3.x. something that the other innovator company isn't doing.
my OS X box has xwindows installed with wmaker (thanks to fink) . so yes, in theory i can dream about having other people use my machine as a xserver. but they have there own macs. if they really needed to log into my machine, they can SSH. OS X is a multi user OS (i blame it on the BSD core).
now, where OS X lacks is in games. but i get by with watching DVDs, MP3s, divx and all the gnu stuff that this OS supports.
1.) comes with a "Terminal" program
/Applications. Each application is in it's own folder. Stuff like Internet Explorer and the DVD player are there. If i used Toast or if Photoshop was available for OSX, it would probably install there. there is a /usr along with the /usr/local among other things.
/Applications are organize nicely in there own folders complete with XML files. which is a lot nicer than having one big registry like in windows. to the GUI user, the application folders is an executable binary. you click on it and it reads the XML files and gets the appropriate binary to execute (among other information). to the CLI user, it's just another folder with XML and binaries in there.
2.) default shell is tcsh
3.) there is vi. you could of course compile most things that are ported to BSD.
the default applications go into
the applications in
i don't know much about cocoa. i'm just an end user at this point. i just use gcc, mozilla, ssh and vi. along with playing DVDs, divx and MP3s.
it's a nice OS. it'll do nice things. i wish it looked more like OS 9 or NextStep, but not both with the aqua look.
me too. i like my butt the way it is.
The great thing is... you're not bored! I'm finding that I'm trying to find more addictions! I'd like to have a guitar playing addiction to go with my flirting addiction with the opposite sex addiction. Which of course takes time from my studying addiction while drinking caffine. Which I do after I fulfill my gaming addiction after finishing the sleeping addiction.
I think you should try kicking the water addiction first. Then the air.
I don't think average joe customers care about linux at all. Even my hippie friends who want to save the world don't really care about linux too much. Average joe customer also don't care about *BSD on the dreamcast. Average joe customer fear computers and live with windows. They also hate math ( but love to correct your spelling and grammer ). This is for the hobbiest.
You're right, average joe customers don't care what OS they're running. Many geeks do. This is for the geeks that would to fiddle some more with hardware that they already own. It has a hard drive, ethernet, firewire, USB and the glorious VGA adapter.
Some people want it becuase they can get it. Some people want it because they hate MicroSoft. Others will use it for yet another internet terminal (YAIT, or in GNU speak: YAIT is not a terminal).
I want it because I want to support linux. If more people realize that they don't need to use windows ALL the time (just some of the time), I am happy. This is from vent up anger from being a sysadmin.
I also want it so I can play my games (love MGS2) and hack it too. I could also wait for some hacker to port linux to the XBOX but I don't have an XBOX and have less reasons to buy one. All the games I want to play are either already on the PS2 or will be made for my PC, which will always be faster becuase by default my personality requires it that way.
Those are some of the thoughts I have on why to get one. Basically, because you can. I think that the average joe user won't care. I don't see them wanting to pay $200 more for the ethernet and harddrive to turn the PS2 into a computer. But one day the PS2 will by default come with the harddrive and ethernet. Then they still won't care about the OS, but they buy the feature equipe one for $300. they'll have the option of paying $40 to AOL who'll give them access online and a CD/DVD that runs there software on linux. They'll skip the MS-tax. Maybe Sony will do the same thing and make the PS2 apart of there digital hub. This makes the PS2 versitle and plays games too!
For now, it's just for the geeks who wants it. Just like how computers use to be. Just for the people willing to fork over a load of money for interesting hardware. It could be totally useless and worthless when i get it, but that also happen with my palm.
oh and while everyone is politely requesting that apple have linux support. can you also ask them to update quicktime so that it has OSX support. the large preview only works with quicktime 5 which isn't compatible with OSX.
plus, the taliban is getting free food from the sky! some of it gives you lead poisioning though.
i think it's all about the gamecube. except that i need metal gear, ICO and final fantasy X. x-box, smesh-box. i'll wait to see what my x-box counterparts have to say about it. if they gave me a game i want, i'd get it. even if it's a crappy tekken tag tournament.
hey, want some food? it comes in a nice yellow canister.
resident evil and resident evil 0 will released on the gamecube. resident evil 0 is supposely only gamecube specific and not to mention any other new resident evil games according to a PS2 magazine i read at 7-11.
it's sad to hear that adults won't enjoy games with characters like link, mario and metroid. i'm glad i'm only 27, it must suck to be adult. this also allows me to play ico and dark cloud on the PS2.
wait, why am i excited. i don't have a job to afford swaying away from my PS2.
anyway, it's more fun to do than worry about another plane crash.
i'm buying a copy. once i can get a job. =)
i agree.
it doesn't make sense to me. the third guy always get damaged in some way. what are they trying to say about the PIII?
four of my friends and i just went out and got one. i could go out right now and get 20 of them if i wanted. want one?
linux isn't bloated. even if it is, you can unbloat it by not compiling what you don't need in. the kernel can be made realitively small. .99 kernel.
i don't see how the 2.2 kernel is more unstable than the 2.0 kernel or the 2.0 kernel is more unstable than the
it's gotten bigger, to better handle things like SMP, but i wouldn't call that being bloated. the solaris kernel is far bigger than the linux kernel and i haven't heard anyone say that's bloated. it's also far smaller than the win2k kernel.
i also don't see a lack of direction with linux, they keep making the kernel better for SMP, small appliances, workstations, networking, you name it.
just like windows.
this may put the DeCess more in the limelight. which could be a good thing.
anyway, the review is just saying that the movie didn't have any character development, a coherent story line and was badly directed (unlike star wars). he only mentions the science of it near the end, totally only one paragrah.
this country has the cultural taste of well... george w. bush. well most of the country anyway.
i would do it, but i'm already compiling mozilla. then i want to play a game of unreal tournament and pre-order my PSX2. so i have no time left (unless i stop reading slashdot).
it's tibet. it's full of "imperialist" buddisht monks that needs to be reformed. what a better way to do it than killing them really quickly.
i was just kidding. sorry. =)
"freaking" the term, in the time when i was in highschool, meant when people are dirty dancing. i can understand why this would be rated with cyber terrorism. it promotes bodily contact and bad dancing, which could lead to unholiness.
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i agree with you, they may mean "Phreaking". they may have typed it wrong. the letters "P" and "h" are very close together on the keyboard.
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okay, i know you meant windows when you meant "PC". but it's a pet peeve of mine. ever since the mac vs windows wars, the word "PC" has gotten a bad rap. this is sorta like the whole "hacker" and "cracker" thing.
it looks real good. it's fast. it crashes on me when i change the theme, but that's an easy thing to fix. i just won't change the theme. =)
i was hating using netscape and hated not being able to trush IE.
now i can wait a little longer for the final release.
i can understand them wanting a unified system. i'm all for that. i feel that they were going to make it into a sparc box anyway. i was actually
hoping they would. maybe then i can have a sparc box for really cheap. =)
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i just don't buy the exscuse that they can't concentrate on more than one OS. maybe they are stretching themselves thin. then they should really think hard before fixing something that's not broken.
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once they put solaris on there, it'll cease to be cobalt boxes. they'll be sun appliances. they could have build there own sun appliances without buying cobalt if they were going to rip it apart and make it a sparc box.
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seeing that it's easier to buy a "branding" than make one, they bought cobalt. so there goes a linux company.
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i'm hoping whatever sun does, the boxes aren't too expensive. then i can really have a nice cube box that isn't a mac. not that i don't want a mac,
i just don't want to have to have 128 Megs of ram to run an OS.
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anyway, i agree with you, DOWN with MICROSOFT.
just tell the cobalt people what needs to be done so there's a streamless intergration with the rest of sun.
i know they probably bought cobalt for there "branding" since they probably would have a hard time concentrating on selling a similiar product to market. i mean why try to woo buyers with hype when someone else has done it. just buy them!
wait... what makes sun think they can concentrate on net appliances now?