Since the only game worth playing on the PS3 right now is Resistance, it's not out of line to think that once more games that people want start being released, sales will increase. Numbers in the XX millions are easily possible by the end of the year if the big-name games don't get pushed back.
Further, these are only going to be used by institutions or people that can't afford computers in the first place. Which is worse, ad supported computers or no computers?
This is about as distorted and inflammatory as it gets.
Price certainly helps the Wii, but people won't pay $250 for something that they view as a piece of crap. And at the same time, there are plenty of people who will pay significantly more for something that they perceive as better than the alternatives (witness the ipod).
So, why isn't the comparison of the Wii to the PS3 to the Xbox 360 worthwhile to you? To use the old standby, the car analogy, which sells better - the Honda Accord or the Mercedes S-class? The Accord, by far. Does that means it's a better machine? No, people are just more likely to buy a less-frills but cheaper alternative. Does the fact that Mercedes sells fewer cars make them a failure?
Analogies aside, it's way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay too early to tell ANYTHING about the current console race. Wait until some more high-profile exclusives have been launched for ALL systems, and we'll see a lot more useful figures.
The fault does not lie with Google. They are doing nothing more than providing a service where people can upload video. Are you going to blame the ISPs next because they facilitate copyright infringement, too, by allowing people to upload that material in the first place? Perhaps the people who programmed Bittorrent, too, since people use that for piracy? And the computer manufacturers, without which none of this would happen? Where does the blame chain end?
The users who upload copyrighted material are the ONLY ones at fault. That's it. There is nothing besides that.
To use your own analogies, Ford sells cars, but is in no way responsible for what their owners do with them. SmithKlein sells drugs, but isn't responsible if people OD on them.
Just because people abuse a system doesn't make it the system owners fault.
This is a lesson the cell phone industry still hasn't learned. ... and absolutely nobody is excited about the iPhone, probably one of the most feature-filled phones out there? I think your perceptions may be a bit warped.
Well, I know it's intuitive, my 15 yo son just paid $1.99 for a two-week trial version for his Mac. But, you'd get more exercise, and avoid Cartman's fate if you actually could use Wii gestures to attack.
Given the amount of time that many people spend playing WoW, you'd be able to tell which ones were the Wii players by their ONE MASSIVE ARM.
These blurred images are just Google caving into various narrow interests with either something negligent to hide from an enquiring public or its reporters [prisonplanet.com], or just pretending to secure facilities with meaningless handwaving, or both.
Or buying images from a third-party that has already blurred them out, which is very likely the actual case.
New game styles are great, but they're only new for a little while.
Ding! Some of them even get annoying after a while. While I love my Wii and think Wii Tennis is one of the most fun party games ever, I DON'T WANT to have to always be swinging that thing around (it got somewhat annoying in Zelda, and VERY annoying in Marvel). I'm doubting many games will be put out that doesn't involve the motion sensing, so I'm pretty much ruling out the Wii as my "just lay on the couch and chill" console.
That is absolutely not true. What happened is that companies aren't allowed to duplicate XXX DVDs in the same facility that they duplicate Disney DVDs at. Sony is not prohibiting porn by any means.
Uh, the version most people want to buy is the 60GB, unless Europe's market is radically different from the US's... The 20GBs were a LOT harder to unload than the 60GB ones were (from what I saw with eBay), and were easily available far before you could get a 60GB.
Not necessarily. If the Wii and DS had failed, I could see Nintendo going the way Sega did - forget making consoles, just release your games for the consoles other companies make. It worked out EXTREMELY well for Sega, and given the strength of Nintendo's franchises, I can see it working out quite well for them, too.
Ignoring the fact that the base PS3 isn't crippled in the first place like the 360 core, you can use USB wireless networking devices and memory card readers and replace the included hard drive with any standard 2.5" notebook drive.
... and the fact that they'll send a tech to your house to upgrade your firmware speaks volumes about how good of a company they are. Many would say "too bad".
and the PS2 had Final Fantasy.... and the PS3 has Final Fantasy (the MAIN series, not spinoffs), which pretty much means that it can't be a failure, no matter how badly some people want it to be one. I think people underestimate how big of a force FF is.
The thing is that blu-ray is in EVERY PS3 that will EVER be bought. How many people will buy the 360 add-on, especially when it offers nothing to games? Not a very large percentage.
HD-DVD will win and Blu-ray will go the way of Betamax.
Oh really? PS3 sales figures show that there are hundreds of thousands sold. That's hundreds of thousands of blu-ray players in the homes of people, and millions more on their way. Once there's more than ONLY ONE good PS3 game out, too, sales will pick up.
It's hard to predict blu-ray a loser when THAT many players will be in the hands of people. How many HD-DVD players are in homes nowadays?
Hey, you know what I REALLY love? How everyone on the internet nowadays that either:
a) has a viewpoint that may be in favor of a corporation/organization that some people don't like (Microsoft, RIAA, Sony, US Government, etc) or b) likes a product that's from a corporation that some people don't like (Zune, PS3, etc)
is referred to as an "astroturfer" or "shill". That's quite honestly the worst argument since nazi comparisons, and I say we create a corollary to Godwin's Law just to cover it.
Because, you know, people can't have opposing viewpoints and think for themselves any longer. If they disagree with you, they obviously are being paid to promote that point. (It's especially ironic since so many people get caught up in the Slashdot groupthink.)
I don't think people were allowed to list preorders more than a month ahead of time. Since it was released on 11/17, that's just about the right time for them to be put up on eBay.
So which is better, at least getting a foot in the door in China for the potential to even MAKE a fight at one point in time, or just leaving them to do their own thing which has just worked so wonderfully in the past? Would you rather have all the major search engines in China be controlled by the government and have no outside presence at all?
If you actually stop and think for a second instead of making knee-jerk reactions, it's pretty cut-and-dry what the better choice is.
Ignoring ANY merits of the two formats and pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE that either has going for it, it's pretty easy to predict that blu-ray will win over HD-DVD. Why? Because even if the PS3 is a horrible, horrible failure and only sells 10 million units over the course of its lifetime, that's 10 million more blu-ray players in homes, which HD-DVD likely can't hope to match.
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Since the only game worth playing on the PS3 right now is Resistance, it's not out of line to think that once more games that people want start being released, sales will increase. Numbers in the XX millions are easily possible by the end of the year if the big-name games don't get pushed back.
Further, these are only going to be used by institutions or people that can't afford computers in the first place. Which is worse, ad supported computers or no computers?
This is about as distorted and inflammatory as it gets.
PCs are the king of fancy graphics, they might never be dethroned.
There, fixed it for you.
Price certainly helps the Wii, but people won't pay $250 for something that they view as a piece of crap. And at the same time, there are plenty of people who will pay significantly more for something that they perceive as better than the alternatives (witness the ipod).
So, why isn't the comparison of the Wii to the PS3 to the Xbox 360 worthwhile to you?
To use the old standby, the car analogy, which sells better - the Honda Accord or the Mercedes S-class? The Accord, by far. Does that means it's a better machine? No, people are just more likely to buy a less-frills but cheaper alternative. Does the fact that Mercedes sells fewer cars make them a failure?
Analogies aside, it's way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay too early to tell ANYTHING about the current console race. Wait until some more high-profile exclusives have been launched for ALL systems, and we'll see a lot more useful figures.
The fault does not lie with Google. They are doing nothing more than providing a service where people can upload video. Are you going to blame the ISPs next because they facilitate copyright infringement, too, by allowing people to upload that material in the first place? Perhaps the people who programmed Bittorrent, too, since people use that for piracy? And the computer manufacturers, without which none of this would happen? Where does the blame chain end?
The users who upload copyrighted material are the ONLY ones at fault. That's it. There is nothing besides that.
To use your own analogies, Ford sells cars, but is in no way responsible for what their owners do with them. SmithKlein sells drugs, but isn't responsible if people OD on them.
Just because people abuse a system doesn't make it the system owners fault.
This is a lesson the cell phone industry still hasn't learned. ... and absolutely nobody is excited about the iPhone, probably one of the most feature-filled phones out there? I think your perceptions may be a bit warped.
Well, I know it's intuitive, my 15 yo son just paid $1.99 for a two-week trial version for his Mac. But, you'd get more exercise, and avoid Cartman's fate if you actually could use Wii gestures to attack.
Given the amount of time that many people spend playing WoW, you'd be able to tell which ones were the Wii players by their ONE MASSIVE ARM.
These blurred images are just Google caving into various narrow interests with either something negligent to hide from an enquiring public or its reporters [prisonplanet.com], or just pretending to secure facilities with meaningless handwaving, or both.
Or buying images from a third-party that has already blurred them out, which is very likely the actual case.
New game styles are great, but they're only new for a little while.
Ding! Some of them even get annoying after a while. While I love my Wii and think Wii Tennis is one of the most fun party games ever, I DON'T WANT to have to always be swinging that thing around (it got somewhat annoying in Zelda, and VERY annoying in Marvel). I'm doubting many games will be put out that doesn't involve the motion sensing, so I'm pretty much ruling out the Wii as my "just lay on the couch and chill" console.
That is absolutely not true. What happened is that companies aren't allowed to duplicate XXX DVDs in the same facility that they duplicate Disney DVDs at. Sony is not prohibiting porn by any means.
Uh, the version most people want to buy is the 60GB, unless Europe's market is radically different from the US's... The 20GBs were a LOT harder to unload than the 60GB ones were (from what I saw with eBay), and were easily available far before you could get a 60GB.
At $600 the PS3 is no bargain. They're still about $100 too high for the thing, at least compared to the competition.
Good news! There is a PS3 that's $100 less, and it still gives you more than the competition's product (blu-ray, HDMI, free online gaming, etc).
Not necessarily. If the Wii and DS had failed, I could see Nintendo going the way Sega did - forget making consoles, just release your games for the consoles other companies make. It worked out EXTREMELY well for Sega, and given the strength of Nintendo's franchises, I can see it working out quite well for them, too.
Er, what do you mean "unlike the PS3"?
Ignoring the fact that the base PS3 isn't crippled in the first place like the 360 core, you can use USB wireless networking devices and memory card readers and replace the included hard drive with any standard 2.5" notebook drive.
... and the fact that they'll send a tech to your house to upgrade your firmware speaks volumes about how good of a company they are. Many would say "too bad".
and the PS2 had Final Fantasy. ... and the PS3 has Final Fantasy (the MAIN series, not spinoffs), which pretty much means that it can't be a failure, no matter how badly some people want it to be one. I think people underestimate how big of a force FF is.
(Many many people ... in the Bay Area, work incredibly long hours)
Fixed.
Yeah, you're right. I nearly choked on my sandwich when I saw "Mr. Gates" rather than "the ultimate evil, Gate$".
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Not an exclusive. Coming out on the PS3 quite soon, IIRC.
I see the PS3 sales numbers being mediocre until next holiday season - MGS4, FFXIII, and GTA4 will drive millions of sales.
The thing is that blu-ray is in EVERY PS3 that will EVER be bought. How many people will buy the 360 add-on, especially when it offers nothing to games? Not a very large percentage.
HD-DVD will win and Blu-ray will go the way of Betamax.
Oh really? PS3 sales figures show that there are hundreds of thousands sold. That's hundreds of thousands of blu-ray players in the homes of people, and millions more on their way. Once there's more than ONLY ONE good PS3 game out, too, sales will pick up.
It's hard to predict blu-ray a loser when THAT many players will be in the hands of people. How many HD-DVD players are in homes nowadays?
Hey, you know what I REALLY love? How everyone on the internet nowadays that either:
a) has a viewpoint that may be in favor of a corporation/organization that some people don't like (Microsoft, RIAA, Sony, US Government, etc)
or
b) likes a product that's from a corporation that some people don't like (Zune, PS3, etc)
is referred to as an "astroturfer" or "shill". That's quite honestly the worst argument since nazi comparisons, and I say we create a corollary to Godwin's Law just to cover it.
Because, you know, people can't have opposing viewpoints and think for themselves any longer. If they disagree with you, they obviously are being paid to promote that point. (It's especially ironic since so many people get caught up in the Slashdot groupthink.)
I don't think people were allowed to list preorders more than a month ahead of time. Since it was released on 11/17, that's just about the right time for them to be put up on eBay.
So which is better, at least getting a foot in the door in China for the potential to even MAKE a fight at one point in time, or just leaving them to do their own thing which has just worked so wonderfully in the past? Would you rather have all the major search engines in China be controlled by the government and have no outside presence at all?
If you actually stop and think for a second instead of making knee-jerk reactions, it's pretty cut-and-dry what the better choice is.
I'd be surprised if they win with Blu-Ray.
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Ignoring ANY merits of the two formats and pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE that either has going for it, it's pretty easy to predict that blu-ray will win over HD-DVD. Why? Because even if the PS3 is a horrible, horrible failure and only sells 10 million units over the course of its lifetime, that's 10 million more blu-ray players in homes, which HD-DVD likely can't hope to match.
Plus, as everyone seems to forget, it's not only Sony backing blu-ray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_corporations