Nono I wouldnt claim Facebook and Youtube are crap webpages. I would however question the analysis of WHY you think they are faster. I hardly think it's the ability of Chrome to parse JScript as it's equivalent to Safari IIRC. The problem is not the JS parsing.
I'm not sure you even undestand what's happening. (Down)Loading javascript is the primary time consumption in showing a page (read: YSlow), not the engine that parses it. The number of pages where parsing javascript is more than 2 miliseconds is probably analogous to the number of crap webpages on the internet. Most people dont spend a lot of time on those, including you. Where is it that Chrome "parses faster"? If you're a user who's remotely familiar with plugins, Chrome offers LESS in every area. Other than the single process tabs, I didn't see anything good about Chrome.
Premise 1: When society starts, natural-selection stops.
Premise 2: When society starts, natural-selection needs to meet different requirements, and it continues.
Unfortunately, evolutionary changes that provide an advantage to an individual in a society are often orthogonal to changes promoting lone survival outside of society. There's the big question. Are Meta-evolutionary changes (to adapt to social conditions) truly natural-selection? I would suggest that accepting societal natural selection and survival natural selection are 2 different concepts that often blur in discussion (like the question: what is electricity?).
Natural-Selection: A process causing heritable traits that are helpful for survival and reproduction to become more common in a population, and harmful traits to become more rare. This occurs because individuals with advantageous traits are more likely to reproduce, so that more individuals in the next generation inherit these traits.
In a society, the traits that are helpful for survival AND reproduction don't become more common while harmful traits become more rare. Is natural-selection broken? It's a crap shoot, really. We may be able to correct or cure negative traits and helpful traits may be supressed in the interest of (pick your atrocity). A good analog is the mighty Zebra. How handy is it to be black and white striped on your own in the savannah, as opposed to being in a herd of black and white? I think that there should either be a refinement to the definition of NS or preferably multiple definitions to describe the how it applies in relation to a group of similar individuals.
Humans have been actively looking for and dreaming of ways to turn the human body off (stasis) for centuries. That question isn't profound in any way as medical science has already answered "yes, as soon as we can". Being able to improve a body (mechanical, electrical, chemical, animal) without destroying it, is not a bad thing. Who decides when? That's always been up to the medical proxy. In this case, the creator or legal owner which is an equivalent (although it doesn't sound right, I cannot argue that it isn't so).
Most programmers do not think in parallel processing terms, leading to claims that you should avoid it. While Amdahl and Gustafson have attempted to quantify the impact of strictly serial processes, the underlying premise is that parallelism is efficient (limited by serial processes).
Ive played both and the fact is that if you dont like raiding or manufactured PVP you are either out there trying to fight some people questing or protecting younger players in stv.
I agree, with the caveat that you forgot mindlessly killing the same creatures+picking up the same things over and over and over and over again....
There are things to do, but the point of the game -
Whoa there buddy. The point of the game is not to fill a bar. That's the only metric that many people have. It is the most popular goal, but not the point of an MMORPG. You can fill a bar in a SP RPG but that's not really the point in that type of game either.
"well, you could go and do or do it again and again, and that ought to count as more hours the game has."
It's only pointless to you because it does not feed your particular ego-centric metric. You've done nothing but to reinforce my assumptions in my OP that you only value one vector (relative effectiveness as an individual in an endgame group). I did not speak to your demographic as that was not hinted at. You've decided that I'm attacking you outright, as opposed to asking you to try to be more constructive in your criticisms than a 12 year old is.
your conclusion is basically that your tastes are right, and they all are obviously wrong.
I do not speak to my own tastes as they are materially, irrelevant.
I play the game the way it's fun for _me_.
And after months, you decide the game is designed badly and it's NOT fun. It's easy to discover why, as it's all about how you enjoy things. Take a chill pill, and go help yourself to a shrink.
[I]n WoW about 99% of the content is for levels 1 to 69, and all there is to do at level 70 is a repetitive grind to give you _something_ to do until the next expansion pack comes. It used to be the same at 60, before Burning Crusade.
This is a common misconception. The content is for all levels. A common personality type wont use any content that doesn't measureably increase their usefulness at the highest tier. I submit you feel there is nothing gained from trying to solo Uldaman at level 70 or speed level or any of the non-traditional achievements that any person can imagine other than getting a sword that's +12 instead of +11. This personality type helped codify "a repetitive grind". In the asian markets, this does not exist (which is interesting from a sociological standpoint). If repetition was the problem with enjoyment, there would be a much higher suicide rate.
I have stated, many times, that the type of personality that does well with MMORPGs is not the exact same market that is assumed. Teenaged boys are tempermental, have shifting expectations, and are bored easily. You'll find the people that do well over years, are middle-aged and employed or otherwise fulfilled outside of game accomplishments.
What's worse, the content that BC came out with was LARGELY level 70 content. 1%? How do you come to that figure? The multiple subsections of zones devoted to 70-only (Skywing quests, comes immediately to mind) and specific holiday events. The entire zones geared for level 70s? No less than a dozen instances. Shattered Halls, Steam Vaults, Shadow Labryinth, Caverns of Time, The Arcatraz, Mount Hyjal, Serpentshrine Caverns, Tempest Keep, Black Temple, and EVERY Heroic version of the 5-mans? People see what they want to see.
You need to examine how you play the game, not make false criticisms based on an obvious personality quirk that prevents you from enjoying them more than one way. Yes, other people complain as well for the SAME EXACT REASONS (while there are millions who do not), but they complain because they are unable to be introspective, not because there's anything wrong with 'the original wheel'.
Sure I can speak out against the government and not worry about being hauled off (generally), but the USA actually has a greater ratio of its citizens in prisons than China does in there.
That's only because we don't execute our prisoners as often for as many crimes. Pro-Chinese sentiment or even congratulating Chinese accomplishments, tacitly supports the same kind of behaviors exhibited by third world dictators. North Korea is worse, but I don't really discriminate between differing levels of inhumanity.
when you've got an AI that can pass the turing test you'll be able to reliably automate detecting gold farmers
Again, the goal is not to catch ALL gold farmers immediately. That's impossible (and counterproductive as you've pointed out).
If continually running the same instances and never talking to anyone is your heuristic, they will start rotating instances and running chat macros to simulate
This implies an amount of brainpower, manpower, and wealth is distributed heavily in the poorer industry. I see no evidence to that effect (yes, even manpower). Amazon does have it's own mechanical turk for data analysis. Humanity is distributed on an intellectual curve and along an economic slope. The advantage of the poor is that they cooperate more willingly, earlier, which can make them intimidating (see: Rome vs Christians). I see the (conservative) potential of cooperation as being more effective, philosophically and evidenced in life.
Passing an automated social requirement check is just another minor obstacle. It can't become a major obstacle because it would impact far to many legit players.
Captchas are automated. Undocumented behavior patterns with humans are not automatable by their nature. "It can't become a major obstacle" makes no sense in that context. There is no passive obstacle to overcome. There is criteria to flag a player as a gold farmer. There is the pattern by which most gold farmers operate, which is how regular players consciously determine who is a gold farmer. The goal is not to STOP gold farming. No one beleives that this is possible. It IS possible to prevent large-scale operations from acting effectively as a multi-tiered business through behavioral identification mechanisms.
Gold farmers aren't just people who farm for gold. This is a misnomer. Gold farmers are organizations that can faithfully and repetitively reproduce effective gold farming patterns in SCALE without being involved in the MM part of the ORPG with the explicit intention of selling online resources (not just gold). Making up convoluted social requirements to pass an automated inspection, effectively breaks this model. That's the goal.
A weakness in American law is the inability to concede fact without a judicial trial or other arbitration. It only "appears to indicate" in America, in other places it's not required that there be a tribunal in prima facie. The "weaker statement" is a matter of cultural subjectivity or ignorance, depending on your point of view.
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Most of the newsbits explicitly mention that "Governor Palin has come under media criticism in the past week for using private email accounts to avoid Alaskan freedom of information laws." Neither of you seem to have even read the original story?!
I invited my roommate to watch this new commercial last night and coworkers were talking about it today. Everyone agrees that this was a "much better" commercial portraying PC (funny how PC is synonymous with Windows) people as less pretentious than the mac crowd. What's more, it has an implicit reassurance that Windows is a ubiquitous OS as there is no doubt every single person featured, uses a PC to some extent. Good commercial.//bought a mac last weekend
Schools teach functional languages to this purpose. There is no evidence that this is true, but it fills a couple hours of lecture time every semester.
Wikipedia is knowledge done wrong. People have short memories (or no memory) of how much press (see original/. articles espousing it over and over) it took for Wikipedia to gain momentum.
Riddle me this... How is a tacit admission "metaphorical"?
Because a hint of intent based on a translation weakens the accuracy of the deduction to the point of incredulity. Unless one of us is a linguist, the rationale behind considering this as an admission, is recognizably absent. The deduction would have to come from a cultural point of view rather than "oh look look! The words someone chose to use for other words when trying to match syntax indicates guilt because they are the same words I might choose for [the target] instead of a noun". This is why I do not consider it an admission.
Another thing is that they would attract attention from local police, then armed militia, and in most places armed militia is more combat-effective than any civilian organization.
If you want players to be forest rangers, how do they keep track of how many of each animal is left and what do they care since they have to go to bed sometime?
Right, so they better be invincible super-intelligent NPC guards defending those bears to: 1. Not be kited with a snare or against a sprint 2. Kill in a single blow 3. Never miss 4. Know which animals to protect and adjust their pathing accordingly... Fuck it, if(bear.isLastBear){ bear.invincible = true; }
I don't think you have thought this through or played enough MMORPGs. Not sure which.
If the players managed to ruin the whole world, why not have creator gods come up with a new one?
Once it's announced or discovered that a world can be reset, there will be entire guilds dedicated to doing it as fast as possible. If you can get hundreds of people playing in Battlegrounds for fun, or 160 ppl for a single epic dragon in WoW, how long would it take for a couple guilds to exterminate every living thing within the majority of zones? (or whatever the reset trigger is) Oops reset! Your base evaporates as the casual players realize their playtime is effectively wasted at random intervals that are ever shortening.
It's much more fun to think about how other people are doing it wrong, when you don't understand why other ways don't work. No offense.
I'm not so astounded by the creation of life, but by the occurrence of the same kind of life in nature (and where) to tell us the chances that abiogenesis likely happened so long ago. Creating a man-made molecule in a collider and making life in a test tube are fun exercises, but I want reassurance that the world happened the way we have been teaching it (YMMV in Arkansas).
This "review" is very unusual and suspect at the least.
No it isn't.
Based on what? Your own delusions?
Hell, the new Civ doesn't even necessarily belong getting reviewed here, since this is a fairly PC-centric site.
If not here, where would it be apropos? Wow. Really? It's a PC-centric site. I didn't know that. I wonder why a random game is reviewed over one that is easily considered the most recognized game on/. Maybe because it's YAGG (see: http://www.urbangeek.net/geek/dictionary/geekspeakg-k.html : god game) but don't let reasoning get in the way of your "responses".
Last Civ reviewed was: http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/05/11/1750246 as every version (including different platforms) was critiqued as sure as the earth goes around the sun (dig through them all since you didn't bother the first time). You don't remember how annoying that was? This time Revolutions was completely bypassed and Spore came up. What a surprise! EA gets the press and 2k Games snubbed (meh who the fuck are they anyways) right?
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Nono I wouldnt claim Facebook and Youtube are crap webpages. I would however question the analysis of WHY you think they are faster. I hardly think it's the ability of Chrome to parse JScript as it's equivalent to Safari IIRC. The problem is not the JS parsing.
I'm not sure you even undestand what's happening. (Down)Loading javascript is the primary time consumption in showing a page (read: YSlow), not the engine that parses it. The number of pages where parsing javascript is more than 2 miliseconds is probably analogous to the number of crap webpages on the internet. Most people dont spend a lot of time on those, including you. Where is it that Chrome "parses faster"? If you're a user who's remotely familiar with plugins, Chrome offers LESS in every area. Other than the single process tabs, I didn't see anything good about Chrome.
Premise 1: When society starts, natural-selection stops.
Premise 2: When society starts, natural-selection needs to meet different requirements, and it continues.
Unfortunately, evolutionary changes that provide an advantage to an individual in a society are often orthogonal to changes promoting lone survival outside of society. There's the big question. Are Meta-evolutionary changes (to adapt to social conditions) truly natural-selection? I would suggest that accepting societal natural selection and survival natural selection are 2 different concepts that often blur in discussion (like the question: what is electricity?).
Natural-Selection: A process causing heritable traits that are helpful for survival and reproduction to become more common in a population, and harmful traits to become more rare. This occurs because individuals with advantageous traits are more likely to reproduce, so that more individuals in the next generation inherit these traits.
In a society, the traits that are helpful for survival AND reproduction don't become more common while harmful traits become more rare. Is natural-selection broken? It's a crap shoot, really. We may be able to correct or cure negative traits and helpful traits may be supressed in the interest of (pick your atrocity). A good analog is the mighty Zebra. How handy is it to be black and white striped on your own in the savannah, as opposed to being in a herd of black and white? I think that there should either be a refinement to the definition of NS or preferably multiple definitions to describe the how it applies in relation to a group of similar individuals.
Then he has a solid appeal on grounds that there is unequal protection under the law (for Palin).
Humans have been actively looking for and dreaming of ways to turn the human body off (stasis) for centuries. That question isn't profound in any way as medical science has already answered "yes, as soon as we can". Being able to improve a body (mechanical, electrical, chemical, animal) without destroying it, is not a bad thing. Who decides when? That's always been up to the medical proxy. In this case, the creator or legal owner which is an equivalent (although it doesn't sound right, I cannot argue that it isn't so).
Most programmers do not think in parallel processing terms, leading to claims that you should avoid it. While Amdahl and Gustafson have attempted to quantify the impact of strictly serial processes, the underlying premise is that parallelism is efficient (limited by serial processes).
I agree, with the caveat that you forgot mindlessly killing the same creatures+picking up the same things over and over and over and over again....
Whoa there buddy. The point of the game is not to fill a bar. That's the only metric that many people have. It is the most popular goal, but not the point of an MMORPG. You can fill a bar in a SP RPG but that's not really the point in that type of game either.
1%? Trolltastic.
It's only pointless to you because it does not feed your particular ego-centric metric. You've done nothing but to reinforce my assumptions in my OP that you only value one vector (relative effectiveness as an individual in an endgame group). I did not speak to your demographic as that was not hinted at. You've decided that I'm attacking you outright, as opposed to asking you to try to be more constructive in your criticisms than a 12 year old is.
I do not speak to my own tastes as they are materially, irrelevant.
And after months, you decide the game is designed badly and it's NOT fun. It's easy to discover why, as it's all about how you enjoy things. Take a chill pill, and go help yourself to a shrink.
This is a common misconception. The content is for all levels. A common personality type wont use any content that doesn't measureably increase their usefulness at the highest tier. I submit you feel there is nothing gained from trying to solo Uldaman at level 70 or speed level or any of the non-traditional achievements that any person can imagine other than getting a sword that's +12 instead of +11. This personality type helped codify "a repetitive grind". In the asian markets, this does not exist (which is interesting from a sociological standpoint). If repetition was the problem with enjoyment, there would be a much higher suicide rate.
I have stated, many times, that the type of personality that does well with MMORPGs is not the exact same market that is assumed. Teenaged boys are tempermental, have shifting expectations, and are bored easily. You'll find the people that do well over years, are middle-aged and employed or otherwise fulfilled outside of game accomplishments.
What's worse, the content that BC came out with was LARGELY level 70 content. 1%? How do you come to that figure? The multiple subsections of zones devoted to 70-only (Skywing quests, comes immediately to mind) and specific holiday events. The entire zones geared for level 70s? No less than a dozen instances. Shattered Halls, Steam Vaults, Shadow Labryinth, Caverns of Time, The Arcatraz, Mount Hyjal, Serpentshrine Caverns, Tempest Keep, Black Temple, and EVERY Heroic version of the 5-mans? People see what they want to see.
You need to examine how you play the game, not make false criticisms based on an obvious personality quirk that prevents you from enjoying them more than one way. Yes, other people complain as well for the SAME EXACT REASONS (while there are millions who do not), but they complain because they are unable to be introspective, not because there's anything wrong with 'the original wheel'.
That's only because we don't execute our prisoners as often for as many crimes. Pro-Chinese sentiment or even congratulating Chinese accomplishments, tacitly supports the same kind of behaviors exhibited by third world dictators. North Korea is worse, but I don't really discriminate between differing levels of inhumanity.
Again, the goal is not to catch ALL gold farmers immediately. That's impossible (and counterproductive as you've pointed out).
This implies an amount of brainpower, manpower, and wealth is distributed heavily in the poorer industry. I see no evidence to that effect (yes, even manpower). Amazon does have it's own mechanical turk for data analysis. Humanity is distributed on an intellectual curve and along an economic slope. The advantage of the poor is that they cooperate more willingly, earlier, which can make them intimidating (see: Rome vs Christians). I see the (conservative) potential of cooperation as being more effective, philosophically and evidenced in life.
Captchas are automated. Undocumented behavior patterns with humans are not automatable by their nature. "It can't become a major obstacle" makes no sense in that context. There is no passive obstacle to overcome. There is criteria to flag a player as a gold farmer. There is the pattern by which most gold farmers operate, which is how regular players consciously determine who is a gold farmer. The goal is not to STOP gold farming. No one beleives that this is possible. It IS possible to prevent large-scale operations from acting effectively as a multi-tiered business through behavioral identification mechanisms.
Gold farmers aren't just people who farm for gold. This is a misnomer. Gold farmers are organizations that can faithfully and repetitively reproduce effective gold farming patterns in SCALE without being involved in the MM part of the ORPG with the explicit intention of selling online resources (not just gold). Making up convoluted social requirements to pass an automated inspection, effectively breaks this model. That's the goal.
That's a US-centric view. In other news, MySpace features women without burkas, we should probably prosecute those little bastards.
A weakness in American law is the inability to concede fact without a judicial trial or other arbitration. It only "appears to indicate" in America, in other places it's not required that there be a tribunal in prima facie. The "weaker statement" is a matter of cultural subjectivity or ignorance, depending on your point of view.
Most of the newsbits explicitly mention that "Governor Palin has come under media criticism in the past week for using private email accounts to avoid Alaskan freedom of information laws." Neither of you seem to have even read the original story?!
I invited my roommate to watch this new commercial last night and coworkers were talking about it today. Everyone agrees that this was a "much better" commercial portraying PC (funny how PC is synonymous with Windows) people as less pretentious than the mac crowd. What's more, it has an implicit reassurance that Windows is a ubiquitous OS as there is no doubt every single person featured, uses a PC to some extent. Good commercial. //bought a mac last weekend
Schools teach functional languages to this purpose. There is no evidence that this is true, but it fills a couple hours of lecture time every semester.
Wikipedia is knowledge done wrong. People have short memories (or no memory) of how much press (see original /. articles espousing it over and over) it took for Wikipedia to gain momentum.
This is not always true. The unreasonable man theory holds here (although it will often damage that man's bottom line)
Because a hint of intent based on a translation weakens the accuracy of the deduction to the point of incredulity. Unless one of us is a linguist, the rationale behind considering this as an admission, is recognizably absent. The deduction would have to come from a cultural point of view rather than "oh look look! The words someone chose to use for other words when trying to match syntax indicates guilt because they are the same words I might choose for [the target] instead of a noun". This is why I do not consider it an admission.
I am looking for the analysis, not just a blog comment. Can someone provide a link?
If you want players to be forest rangers, how do they keep track of how many of each animal is left and what do they care since they have to go to bed sometime?
Right, so they better be invincible super-intelligent NPC guards defending those bears to: ... Fuck it, if(bear.isLastBear){ bear.invincible = true; }
1. Not be kited with a snare or against a sprint
2. Kill in a single blow
3. Never miss
4. Know which animals to protect and adjust their pathing accordingly
I don't think you have thought this through or played enough MMORPGs. Not sure which.
Once it's announced or discovered that a world can be reset, there will be entire guilds dedicated to doing it as fast as possible. If you can get hundreds of people playing in Battlegrounds for fun, or 160 ppl for a single epic dragon in WoW, how long would it take for a couple guilds to exterminate every living thing within the majority of zones? (or whatever the reset trigger is) Oops reset! Your base evaporates as the casual players realize their playtime is effectively wasted at random intervals that are ever shortening.
It's much more fun to think about how other people are doing it wrong, when you don't understand why other ways don't work. No offense.
I'm not so astounded by the creation of life, but by the occurrence of the same kind of life in nature (and where) to tell us the chances that abiogenesis likely happened so long ago. Creating a man-made molecule in a collider and making life in a test tube are fun exercises, but I want reassurance that the world happened the way we have been teaching it (YMMV in Arkansas).
Based on what? Your own delusions?
If not here, where would it be apropos? Wow. Really? It's a PC-centric site. I didn't know that. I wonder why a random game is reviewed over one that is easily considered the most recognized game on /. Maybe because it's YAGG (see: http://www.urbangeek.net/geek/dictionary/geekspeakg-k.html : god game) but don't let reasoning get in the way of your "responses".
Last Civ reviewed was: http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/05/11/1750246 as every version (including different platforms) was critiqued as sure as the earth goes around the sun (dig through them all since you didn't bother the first time). You don't remember how annoying that was? This time Revolutions was completely bypassed and Spore came up. What a surprise! EA gets the press and 2k Games snubbed (meh who the fuck are they anyways) right?
No research. Ignorant troll.