I am going to carry a plastic banana everywhere hanging from my hip like a dildo ready to go, pull it out, yell at it, say "WHAT?" a thousand times, wander in front of people's path, and drive my car like a maniac all while talking to this marvel of technology, my plastic banana. I'm even gonna make it play those annoying fucking ring tones.
"Ooooh, your banana plays it's a hard knock life!"
"Yes peter, the wine does go well with the chicken"
Bcause this is the ME generation. It's all about ME and fuck what you think.
Yeah, that is not flamebait, it's government contracting. Everyone lowballs trying to get in then goes over schedule and over budget. It would be flamebait if it hadn't been the norm in government since we can remember.
It's obvious that what really needs to be modified is the GPL to cover such situations. In this case, becoming more viral would be a good thing for the community.
I disagree. I thought the idea was freedom. I think changing the GPL to become more viral might stifle innovation. If one wants to develop on top of a GPL application, creating something new, the developers should decide the license. I should be able to build a closed source application that runs on a GPL Linux distribution. I think this has been debated within the Free Software Foundation time and again and the consensus is that the GPL does not infect works that are dynamically linked to GPL applications.
I used to race 1/10 scale cars myself (I had both a 4wd optima and rc10 that could both easily hit 45-50 with the proper gearing and engines) when i was younger and had more time. But after going to tower hobbies and seeing nitro cars going for $750 just for the kits with no radio, servos, or engine it's hard to justify it anymore. These micro size cars are really just toys but they fit a niche market - cheap bastard like myself who want to buy them for kids (thats the excuse anyway) and save our money for bigger, more bad ass toys.
Wow, FUD. According to our study we created to reach our preconcieved notion open source methods are superior.
Where to start?
Open source projects are generally quicker to respond to user requests. I'm sorry but comparing two open source products to "commercial products" which is who? what product? what project? I don't see any quantative data besides a few lines refering to commercial products as a whole and saying the authors have experience with them is not scientific. I take exception to this because the paper sepcifically tries to appear scientific but yet offers no data comparing either project referenced (Apache and Mozilla) to a commercial counterpart or their ability to respond to bugs.
Open source projects tend to have a lower bug-rate than commercial projects Again, where is the data? I see the scietific method they use for tracking bugs per line of code and they go into great detail comparing the two projects but yet we see no comparison to commercial project bug counts or the same method applied to commercial projects. The paper is laced with phrases such as "One might speculate". Yeah one might. Of course one might not speculate and offer evidence. If I create a hypothesis should I not have to back it up and test for truth?
And then there is the method of caculating bugs per line of code. They go into great detail about bug counts, when the fix was checked in, the lines of code, etc. But yet how do you measure importance? Some bugs are obviously greater than others. For instance, two teams create two identical applications. One application has 15 bugs and the other application has just 1. They both have the same lines of code, the same project size, same budget, everything is the same. The project with just one bug is obviously superior according to the methods they use, EXCEPT that particular bug allows a remote user to gain Root/Super User access. Which one has failed according to your quantitive data? Which project had the best method? They speak in depth about how this cannot be measured, then show you how they measured it?
Although I think this paper has good intentions and shows insight into some OSS projects, 1. The reference to commercial software as a whole is unfair and offers no value and 2. The method for caculating bugs is not an effective way to measure anything.
This paper is basically the equivilent of Microsoft, Oracle, Sun, or any other entity creating a study that never tests or proves anything and reaching a preconcieved notion. I can see this message being modded as a "troll" but oh well, this paper is not as scientific as it tries to appear.
Hmm, $12 a year, same price as a subscription to Wired. Now I wonder, which will you get more info from that will actually help you in your job? (hint: the journal)
Yeah, But which one can you KILL a man with because of all the advertisements? (hint:wired)
But MTV's marketing focuses on dissention from the "mainstream" while actually moving viewers towards conformity and becoming a consumer in a consuming society. This is a typical Madison Avenue move that tries to basically say "we're not with them , we are against the establishment, we want you to break the mold, go your own route, take the road less traveled... and we'll help you get there" (Of course by selling you products that tout the same party line of unconformity). It's not a new thing - selling rebelliousness to youth or the simple minded. MTV has an angle just like all other large super congolo-media companies and that angle is "sell dissention".
Christ you can't even fight the establishment anymore because the moment you do someone will try and spin it into a product.... I gotta run, I'm gonna go and sell gas masks, cheese sandwiches, and tofu krispies to all the IMF/WTO protestors still hanging downtown.
Exactly, If they had their way you would only rent your entire life as a service and own nothing. You will not be allowed to fix anything and only authorized technicians will do so. Your clothes will come with a EULA which specifies the period of time that you can wear them, after which you will have to upgrade. Expiration dates on milk will now be a binding contract.
The idea of ownership is quickly being erased by Madison Avenue and the Globochem legal department because it doesn't offer enough return value to investors. They seek the golden egg and if they can't find it they will create it with an army of lawyers and lobbyists.
They have to turn everything in life into a business. It might be because they ARE a business. The whole reason he was even speaking is because that's how he makes a living - running MS. I'd hate to see a business that wasn't about making profit. I'm not saying a company should be morally corrupt, far from it, but to accuse a CEO of a billion dollar company of being a dupe because he has his eye on profit is laughable. He probably wakes up in a cold sweat having nightmares when his stock drops.05%, I mean do you expect any less?
In a way they started out bankrupt I think he emphasized this point to stress the fact that MS cannot beat Linux using conventional means. They cannot out advertise Linux or buy Linux so they will have to resort to different measures. They cannot tie up owners in huge legal battles like they have with previous victims. They can't strong arm the community so he emphasizes that then goes on to essentially say "But we can build a larger community". If he can or not well that's another question that only time can answer.
Why do they beat this dead horse? Maybe one day I will own just one, but right now they both have games that wouldn't be suited for each other. I can just imagine playing flight sim on the xbox - Flaps at 20%... hmm.. according to the manual I have to hit up + up + down + down + left + right + left + right + a + b + a + b + start... Please spare me the contra codes foo! I would pay good money to see console gamers and PC gamers on the same server playing any FPS! It would be hilarious watching the console gamers get circle strafed by Johnny Doe Ringo and the rest of his clan. Without mouse look playing any FPS is a joke.
And for a real state of the industry that would be just as accurate as Joe Smoe's of the Daily Planet - Go to your local Best Buy and check out the 10 aisles of PC games then compare that to the 20-30 (shit I'll give them 60 for the benefit of the doubt) XBox games they have and laugh. Half of those XBox games are still sitting on the shelf for over a year now because they suck but yet still cost $50-60? Christ, only the best PC games would venture that insulting price range. I'll keep my PC thanks and stick to the console for my once in a blue moon console game purchase. The real reason I love it is because the DVD anyway.
802.11a... i'm already saturating my outbound DSL anyway with 802.11b, and don't often stream stuff over 4mb/s
But what happens when you want to transfer files between two machines on your network? I also saturate my cable connection but between machines is where I really see a difference when upping the connection rate. I can't wait to go totally wireless and trade my spiders nest of wires for a brain tumor.
I use the KazaaLite version and although I can scan for spyware and not find any just fine, it still pops up advertisements using IE. I left kazaalite on one night a few days ago and come back to 10 pop up ads on my tool bar. Maybe not spyware under a strict definition but a pain in the ass nonetheless. Oh well.
It would most likely be a visual medium, meaning you compose applications using visual models to represent your logic. If you need to create a class you could drag a class model onto your application. I doubt anyone could truly get away from ANY text implementation though - how does one provide the actions and properties of a type without using text based compiling? It will be interesting to see what they come up with.
This has been done before but has not been very successful, depending on how you measure that success, but it has not taken off. I remember specifically seeing one new.Net IDE that allowed one to create a application using visual models, just can't remember the name. They had a contest on the back of some developer magazines challenging users to create an example app using their tool to win a prize (back of Dobbs maybe?). Anyone know the name?
My favorite Fiero mod was the Ferrari kit car on the Fiero frame that makes it look like a Testarossa.. of sorts.. the jaded sorts.. the kind you don't want to be seen dead in sorts..
I can see it now - clear body panels, neon light strips on the door panels, led fans, blow holes on the roof, dogs and cats getting along.... You know Quasimoto predicted all of this..
"In the past 20 years, an industry that was led by visionaries and music lovers has become dominated by accountants, financial analysts and people who can't think ahead more than 90 days."
You can still get the shit scared out of you with less g forces. Last time I checked the old wooden roller coasters still got my heart pumping without breakin my friggin neck like some of the new ones where you strap in tighter than a monkey being shot into space.
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Either I wanna go M$, then I go native
The.Net API is the replacement for the native Win32 API. This is a fact you ignore at your own peril.
No, folks,.Net is gonna fail - or it's gonna cost M$ another few billion and a change in market policy.
Thanks for the prophecy nostradumbass. Can you back any of what you said up with facts and not FUD? Are you a developer or do you just play one on TV? Go write more than a hello world before you blab about how.Net "suxx0rz" noobmaster flex.
Isn't it sad that you have to qualify any statement that might make it seem like you actually like something Microsoft has created? I find myself qualifying anything related to MS that might seem positive with the same type of qualifier: "I'm not a MS drone" etc...
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A lot of plastic banana haters I see. Don't hate on the banana.. ;-)
So why do they also restrict radios on the plane? Is that a money thing too?
I am going to carry a plastic banana everywhere hanging from my hip like a dildo ready to go, pull it out, yell at it, say "WHAT?" a thousand times, wander in front of people's path, and drive my car like a maniac all while talking to this marvel of technology, my plastic banana. I'm even gonna make it play those annoying fucking ring tones.
"Ooooh, your banana plays it's a hard knock life!"
"Yes peter, the wine does go well with the chicken"
Bcause this is the ME generation. It's all about ME and fuck what you think.
What was the military plane in Maryland Fiasco? just curious.
Why are your tax dollars spent in this fashion? Corporate lobbyists [opensecrets.org] own our government.
Or it could be because people are trying to kill us...
Yeah, that is not flamebait, it's government contracting. Everyone lowballs trying to get in then goes over schedule and over budget. It would be flamebait if it hadn't been the norm in government since we can remember.
Yeah but did those come with those cool keyboard cut out templates for telling you which key did what? What a gem wordstar was ;-)
It's obvious that what really needs to be modified is the GPL to cover such situations. In this case, becoming more viral would be a good thing for the community.
I disagree. I thought the idea was freedom. I think changing the GPL to become more viral might stifle innovation. If one wants to develop on top of a GPL application, creating something new, the developers should decide the license. I should be able to build a closed source application that runs on a GPL Linux distribution. I think this has been debated within the Free Software Foundation time and again and the consensus is that the GPL does not infect works that are dynamically linked to GPL applications.
Also in the year 2000 people will find out that the Supreme Court is really just regular court with sour cream and tomatos.
I used to race 1/10 scale cars myself (I had both a 4wd optima and rc10 that could both easily hit 45-50 with the proper gearing and engines) when i was younger and had more time. But after going to tower hobbies and seeing nitro cars going for $750 just for the kits with no radio, servos, or engine it's hard to justify it anymore. These micro size cars are really just toys but they fit a niche market - cheap bastard like myself who want to buy them for kids (thats the excuse anyway) and save our money for bigger, more bad ass toys.
Wow, FUD. According to our study we created to reach our preconcieved notion open source methods are superior.
Where to start?
Open source projects are generally quicker to respond to user requests.
I'm sorry but comparing two open source products to "commercial products" which is who? what product? what project? I don't see any quantative data besides a few lines refering to commercial products as a whole and saying the authors have experience with them is not scientific. I take exception to this because the paper sepcifically tries to appear scientific but yet offers no data comparing either project referenced (Apache and Mozilla) to a commercial counterpart or their ability to respond to bugs.
Open source projects tend to have a lower bug-rate than commercial projects
Again, where is the data? I see the scietific method they use for tracking bugs per line of code and they go into great detail comparing the two projects but yet we see no comparison to commercial project bug counts or the same method applied to commercial projects. The paper is laced with phrases such as "One might speculate". Yeah one might. Of course one might not speculate and offer evidence. If I create a hypothesis should I not have to back it up and test for truth?
And then there is the method of caculating bugs per line of code. They go into great detail about bug counts, when the fix was checked in, the lines of code, etc. But yet how do you measure importance? Some bugs are obviously greater than others. For instance, two teams create two identical applications. One application has 15 bugs and the other application has just 1. They both have the same lines of code, the same project size, same budget, everything is the same. The project with just one bug is obviously superior according to the methods they use, EXCEPT that particular bug allows a remote user to gain Root/Super User access. Which one has failed according to your quantitive data? Which project had the best method? They speak in depth about how this cannot be measured, then show you how they measured it?
Although I think this paper has good intentions and shows insight into some OSS projects,
1. The reference to commercial software as a whole is unfair and offers no value and
2. The method for caculating bugs is not an effective way to measure anything.
This paper is basically the equivilent of Microsoft, Oracle, Sun, or any other entity creating a study that never tests or proves anything and reaching a preconcieved notion. I can see this message being modded as a "troll" but oh well, this paper is not as scientific as it tries to appear.
Hmm, $12 a year, same price as a subscription to Wired. Now I wonder, which will you get more info from that will actually help you in your job? (hint: the journal)
Yeah, But which one can you KILL a man with because of all the advertisements? (hint:wired)
But MTV's marketing focuses on dissention from the "mainstream" while actually moving viewers towards conformity and becoming a consumer in a consuming society. This is a typical Madison Avenue move that tries to basically say "we're not with them , we are against the establishment, we want you to break the mold, go your own route, take the road less traveled... and we'll help you get there" (Of course by selling you products that tout the same party line of unconformity). It's not a new thing - selling rebelliousness to youth or the simple minded. MTV has an angle just like all other large super congolo-media companies and that angle is "sell dissention".
Christ you can't even fight the establishment anymore because the moment you do someone will try and spin it into a product.... I gotta run, I'm gonna go and sell gas masks, cheese sandwiches, and tofu krispies to all the IMF/WTO protestors still hanging downtown.
Exactly, If they had their way you would only rent your entire life as a service and own nothing. You will not be allowed to fix anything and only authorized technicians will do so. Your clothes will come with a EULA which specifies the period of time that you can wear them, after which you will have to upgrade. Expiration dates on milk will now be a binding contract.
The idea of ownership is quickly being erased by Madison Avenue and the Globochem legal department because it doesn't offer enough return value to investors. They seek the golden egg and if they can't find it they will create it with an army of lawyers and lobbyists.
Chrome tanks, chrome fatigues, and mirror Cochese shades?
SWEEET!
They have to turn everything in life into a business. .05%, I mean do you expect any less?
It might be because they ARE a business. The whole reason he was even speaking is because that's how he makes a living - running MS. I'd hate to see a business that wasn't about making profit. I'm not saying a company should be morally corrupt, far from it, but to accuse a CEO of a billion dollar company of being a dupe because he has his eye on profit is laughable. He probably wakes up in a cold sweat having nightmares when his stock drops
In a way they started out bankrupt
I think he emphasized this point to stress the fact that MS cannot beat Linux using conventional means. They cannot out advertise Linux or buy Linux so they will have to resort to different measures. They cannot tie up owners in huge legal battles like they have with previous victims. They can't strong arm the community so he emphasizes that then goes on to essentially say "But we can build a larger community". If he can or not well that's another question that only time can answer.
Why do they beat this dead horse? Maybe one day I will own just one, but right now they both have games that wouldn't be suited for each other. I can just imagine playing flight sim on the xbox - Flaps at 20%... hmm.. according to the manual I have to hit up + up + down + down + left + right + left + right + a + b + a + b + start... Please spare me the contra codes foo! I would pay good money to see console gamers and PC gamers on the same server playing any FPS! It would be hilarious watching the console gamers get circle strafed by Johnny Doe Ringo and the rest of his clan. Without mouse look playing any FPS is a joke.
And for a real state of the industry that would be just as accurate as Joe Smoe's of the Daily Planet - Go to your local Best Buy and check out the 10 aisles of PC games then compare that to the 20-30 (shit I'll give them 60 for the benefit of the doubt) XBox games they have and laugh. Half of those XBox games are still sitting on the shelf for over a year now because they suck but yet still cost $50-60? Christ, only the best PC games would venture that insulting price range. I'll keep my PC thanks and stick to the console for my once in a blue moon console game purchase. The real reason I love it is because the DVD anyway.
802.11a... i'm already saturating my outbound DSL anyway with 802.11b, and don't often stream stuff over 4mb/s
But what happens when you want to transfer files between two machines on your network? I also saturate my cable connection but between machines is where I really see a difference when upping the connection rate. I can't wait to go totally wireless and trade my spiders nest of wires for a brain tumor.
I use the KazaaLite version and although I can scan for spyware and not find any just fine, it still pops up advertisements using IE. I left kazaalite on one night a few days ago and come back to 10 pop up ads on my tool bar. Maybe not spyware under a strict definition but a pain in the ass nonetheless. Oh well.
It would most likely be a visual medium, meaning you compose applications using visual models to represent your logic. If you need to create a class you could drag a class model onto your application. I doubt anyone could truly get away from ANY text implementation though - how does one provide the actions and properties of a type without using text based compiling? It will be interesting to see what they come up with.
.Net IDE that allowed one to create a application using visual models, just can't remember the name. They had a contest on the back of some developer magazines challenging users to create an example app using their tool to win a prize (back of Dobbs maybe?). Anyone know the name?
This has been done before but has not been very successful, depending on how you measure that success, but it has not taken off. I remember specifically seeing one new
My favorite Fiero mod was the Ferrari kit car on the Fiero frame that makes it look like a Testarossa.. of sorts.. the jaded sorts.. the kind you don't want to be seen dead in sorts..
I can see it now - clear body panels, neon light strips on the door panels, led fans, blow holes on the roof, dogs and cats getting along.... You know Quasimoto predicted all of this..
"In the past 20 years, an industry that was led by visionaries and music lovers has become dominated by accountants, financial analysts and people who can't think ahead more than 90 days."
Sounds a lot like the software industry
You can still get the shit scared out of you with less g forces. Last time I checked the old wooden roller coasters still got my heart pumping without breakin my friggin neck like some of the new ones where you strap in tighter than a monkey being shot into space.
Either I wanna go M$, then I go native
.Net API is the replacement for the native Win32 API. This is a fact you ignore at your own peril.
.Net is gonna fail - or it's gonna cost M$ another few billion and a change in market policy.
.Net "suxx0rz" noobmaster flex.
The
No, folks,
Thanks for the prophecy nostradumbass. Can you back any of what you said up with facts and not FUD? Are you a developer or do you just play one on TV? Go write more than a hello world before you blab about how
Isn't it sad that you have to qualify any statement that might make it seem like you actually like something Microsoft has created? I find myself qualifying anything related to MS that might seem positive with the same type of qualifier: "I'm not a MS drone" etc...
Sad really