It look like that some people at Iso have so much money stuck in their hears that they did not listen to whatever was said about OpenXML, so why would they listen now?
Contrary to adobe propaganda, Flash is no cross-plateform framework at all. You can always try the nspluginwrapper project which allows to use netscape plugins on *nix platforms. But it's not the ideal solution.
To be more precise, the html rendering engine (webkit) is based on khtml, which is the konqueror (default) built-in rendering engine.
And whatever we can say about konqueror/safari, this branch of engines is generally considered to be well designed and standards compilant (khtml passed acid2 tests before gecko).
It has been true, but not anymore at my opinion : nowadays, lots of games are ported to macosX, which doesn't have any DirectX api.
Theses games are ported using openGL (which proves that game devs are finaly able to do something with it), and I'm sure It would not be too hard to port them to linux after that. The reasons to not do this but be rather political than technical...
I only quoted that they were assuming 80% of developpers were using Windows desktops to do their job (which is probable) while Php devs were focusing the improvement on Win Server Edition -- wich I pointed to be fairly rare at a desktop OS.
Others pointed the lacks of differences between the twos (appart from price).
Still, if the country's screwing up global routes, cut off their access.
This must be exactly the pakistanese government is dreaming of...
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Your comment is right, and it makes me wonder if they did not bought ATI in order to survive de storm they saw coming when Intel announced its Core2 and their price drop...
The wine project had always been a double-edged project and it seems to me that google is using the bad edge.
1. One of the arguments that wine devs had is that not every compagny have the ressources to port their applications under *nix, but Adobe certainly doesn't fall in that category.
2. The picassa road is not definitively the best one : just bundling wine to a windows application and label it linux (or other unix) compiliant is near anything but nonsense. We choose unix because of freedom, but also because we believed in its superiorical technical merit (*be it true or not*), not to rely on some win32/directX implementation. We don't eat that food (oh, and if we could forget about this mono thing, many people would sleep better).
Even if i'm amazed by the work done by the wine team, and I'm thankful to them for allowing me to play some games under linux, I don't see them taking more importance as a good thing. This is not this kind of solution which will improve our systems.
I'm removing Skype and I'm never using that thing again. To think that a software belonging to a compagny associated with scientology have read my firefox profile... brrr
I wonder if we will walk this path for long : the actual gov has a strong tendancies to follow advices and formats from the lobbying companies (for example, the hardening of the DADVSI law, counter part of the US DMCA).
Terrorism is really begining to be an excuse for everything... What frighten me is to see that in France, the president talks about terrorism like an imminent threat against our country that nearly requiere martial law, while our last terrorism attemps go back 10 years ago and we have been livin peacefully since.
They're denying to have bribed people? How strange : I believed that they would admit:)
Of course they won't admit it, unless it can pe proved that someone did it... And if that were the case, I'm sure they would state that some of their employee went beyond their control -- like the bribery case in sweden for the iso acceptance/refusal of the ooxml. They're pretty like that, microsoft's employees : so devoted to their entreprise that they would go against all laws and ethics for their bosses. Yup.
And after that, it's linux supporters that are called zealots;)
I wonder if an upgrade of the bittorrent protocol was needed (except in order to disrupt other clients' compatibility) : it seemed to me that the actual protocol doesn't works so bad? does it?
AFAIK, there's no security issue, neither performance... Indeed something about privacy could be good, but I wonder if it's possible... So why this need of changing the protocol?
I do not understand really what google is proposing : are they bringing a phone (the gphone?) or only designing a new OS for mobile devices?
In the second case, how thoses OS are installed? By phone compagnies? Or is it possible for an user to replace his phone OS?
It's the thing that I always feared with Ubuntu : somewhat, this distro never gave me the impression that it was done by inhuman skilled people (I won't go as far as say that they just stole debian code, but...). I know that I'm gonna be burned to have said this, but they have tendances to commit serious errors (see the h4x0r1ng of 5 of their main servers... and they pretend to be a serious competitor in the servers market?).
I wouldn't care about this if their were not collateral damages about this : for ages, people have said me about that it could damage physically their hardware. I have answered at each times "only in MS propaganda". But now, I must admit to these people that, actually, the most used linux flavor did. After that, no matter how I argue that it's not because an application is the most used that it is the best (cf windows:P), I feel that I have suffered a great blow in my argumentation. And who could blame them?
It's various governments that asked for an iso-certified document standard (which suprized me, I thought they were happy with office).
Still, ODF was proposed and accepted, and as administrations were about to make the switch, Microsoft surely realized that they were about to loose de grasp on the office world (since their MS-Office will not be anymore associated with the document format and, worse, their concurent will be able to make product as compilant (if not better) as their own with the format).
So they created an XML doc format that they tagged "open" in order to confuse people (I was at first). Would this succeed, they could maintain their dominion, eventually being the only ones producing fully compilent products with the format.
Hooo, ~scary~
So what? Eolas is coming for linux users? Weren't we already waiting for Microsoft? What next? Santa Claus maybe? Or a wing of flying chairs?
The two only things he is sucessfully discrediting is Microsoft and the distros wich ranked with him (I feel like sorry for Suse to be associated with this man).
I dunno... All people I known do not really care about price since they're pirating Windows or worse, do not see it's price, obtaining it shipped with their computer...
Do not misundertand me : I'm really happy that, at last, MS get what it merits. I just feel that it is not a big victory in the sense where I fear that the only loosers will be the mass which bindly continue to buy MS products.
But I hope to be wrong and that will help people to shift to other OSes:)
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It look like that some people at Iso have so much money stuck in their hears that they did not listen to whatever was said about OpenXML, so why would they listen now?
Contrary to adobe propaganda, Flash is no cross-plateform framework at all. You can always try the nspluginwrapper project which allows to use netscape plugins on *nix platforms. But it's not the ideal solution.
And, please, don't forget the x86_64/amd64 arch's...
To be more precise, the html rendering engine (webkit) is based on khtml, which is the konqueror (default) built-in rendering engine.
And whatever we can say about konqueror/safari, this branch of engines is generally considered to be well designed and standards compilant (khtml passed acid2 tests before gecko).
...if Apple can sue itself for proposing illegal installs of safari on windows?
It has been true, but not anymore at my opinion : nowadays, lots of games are ported to macosX, which doesn't have any DirectX api.
Theses games are ported using openGL (which proves that game devs are finaly able to do something with it), and I'm sure It would not be too hard to port them to linux after that. The reasons to not do this but be rather political than technical...
I only quoted that they were assuming 80% of developpers were using Windows desktops to do their job (which is probable) while Php devs were focusing the improvement on Win Server Edition -- wich I pointed to be fairly rare at a desktop OS.
Others pointed the lacks of differences between the twos (appart from price).
"despite the fact that 75% to 80% of PHP users were developing on Windows workstations."
I do not know many people using Windows Server as a workstation...
Still, if the country's screwing up global routes, cut off their access.
This must be exactly the pakistanese government is dreaming of...
Your comment is right, and it makes me wonder if they did not bought ATI in order to survive de storm they saw coming when Intel announced its Core2 and their price drop...
The wine project had always been a double-edged project and it seems to me that google is using the bad edge.
1. One of the arguments that wine devs had is that not every compagny have the ressources to port their applications under *nix, but Adobe certainly doesn't fall in that category.
2. The picassa road is not definitively the best one : just bundling wine to a windows application and label it linux (or other unix) compiliant is near anything but nonsense. We choose unix because of freedom, but also because we believed in its superiorical technical merit (*be it true or not*), not to rely on some win32/directX implementation. We don't eat that food (oh, and if we could forget about this mono thing, many people would sleep better).
Even if i'm amazed by the work done by the wine team, and I'm thankful to them for allowing me to play some games under linux, I don't see them taking more importance as a good thing. This is not this kind of solution which will improve our systems.
I'm removing Skype and I'm never using that thing again. To think that a software belonging to a compagny associated with scientology have read my firefox profile... brrr
I wonder if we will walk this path for long : the actual gov has a strong tendancies to follow advices and formats from the lobbying companies (for example, the hardening of the DADVSI law, counter part of the US DMCA).
But I'm still happy to hear this
Terrorism is really begining to be an excuse for everything... What frighten me is to see that in France, the president talks about terrorism like an imminent threat against our country that nearly requiere martial law, while our last terrorism attemps go back 10 years ago and we have been livin peacefully since.
They're denying to have bribed people? How strange : I believed that they would admit :)
;)
Of course they won't admit it, unless it can pe proved that someone did it... And if that were the case, I'm sure they would state that some of their employee went beyond their control -- like the bribery case in sweden for the iso acceptance/refusal of the ooxml. They're pretty like that, microsoft's employees : so devoted to their entreprise that they would go against all laws and ethics for their bosses. Yup.
And after that, it's linux supporters that are called zealots
I wonder if an upgrade of the bittorrent protocol was needed (except in order to disrupt other clients' compatibility) : it seemed to me that the actual protocol doesn't works so bad? does it?
AFAIK, there's no security issue, neither performance... Indeed something about privacy could be good, but I wonder if it's possible... So why this need of changing the protocol?
I do not understand really what google is proposing : are they bringing a phone (the gphone?) or only designing a new OS for mobile devices? In the second case, how thoses OS are installed? By phone compagnies? Or is it possible for an user to replace his phone OS?
It's the thing that I always feared with Ubuntu : somewhat, this distro never gave me the impression that it was done by inhuman skilled people (I won't go as far as say that they just stole debian code, but...). I know that I'm gonna be burned to have said this, but they have tendances to commit serious errors (see the h4x0r1ng of 5 of their main servers... and they pretend to be a serious competitor in the servers market?).
:P), I feel that I have suffered a great blow in my argumentation. And who could blame them?
I wouldn't care about this if their were not collateral damages about this : for ages, people have said me about that it could damage physically their hardware. I have answered at each times "only in MS propaganda". But now, I must admit to these people that, actually, the most used linux flavor did. After that, no matter how I argue that it's not because an application is the most used that it is the best (cf windows
It's various governments that asked for an iso-certified document standard (which suprized me, I thought they were happy with office). Still, ODF was proposed and accepted, and as administrations were about to make the switch, Microsoft surely realized that they were about to loose de grasp on the office world (since their MS-Office will not be anymore associated with the document format and, worse, their concurent will be able to make product as compilant (if not better) as their own with the format). So they created an XML doc format that they tagged "open" in order to confuse people (I was at first). Would this succeed, they could maintain their dominion, eventually being the only ones producing fully compilent products with the format.
Hooo, ~scary~ So what? Eolas is coming for linux users? Weren't we already waiting for Microsoft? What next? Santa Claus maybe? Or a wing of flying chairs? The two only things he is sucessfully discrediting is Microsoft and the distros wich ranked with him (I feel like sorry for Suse to be associated with this man).
I dunno... All people I known do not really care about price since they're pirating Windows or worse, do not see it's price, obtaining it shipped with their computer...
:)
Do not misundertand me : I'm really happy that, at last, MS get what it merits. I just feel that it is not a big victory in the sense where I fear that the only loosers will be the mass which bindly continue to buy MS products.
But I hope to be wrong and that will help people to shift to other OSes
I think they will just compensate by raising the prices of their products in EU?