Well, it does it basically for free, if you want to compare commercial OS costs. Most people won't be buying leopard for Time Machine- it's simply an added bonus, like the 300 other new features. This new OS will serve me for a few years for what I spend on music for a month. It's a pretty good deal, IMO.
And if you don't want it, then don't buy it. Sheesh.
-b
I think it is part of Apple's goal of reducing software-iness and increasing productivity/"experience". I'm just guessing, but I think that with each new iteration of OS X, we'll see less of OS X and (literally) more of iLife, 3rd-party apps, etc. I could see the finder being reduced to a Quicksilver-type helper app.
I believe this because as I've used Apple computers over the years, it seems like they're trying to reduce the PITA-factor of working with their OSes to get a given job done. For that I applaud them.
OTOH, I think this is like the Windows people bitching about how Vista changed the start button around. Big deal.
(forgive me if I'm not the first to bring this up):
I have read several people extolling the virtues of FREE software. Free is better, right? Well, free as in speech: Yes. Free as in beer: Not so much.
Read one of the posts on this thread about how users should use free software. Then imagine a less technical user reading that. OK, now imagine that less-technical user getting frustrated when their tech buddy yells at them for installing free software. Bonzi buddy is free. "Awesome Free Desktops!" is also free. Do you see where I'm going with this?
I would never tell my mom to use free programs; I would tell her to use Open Source software. Open source is good because it's open, not because it's free. That is an important distinction to make.
MacOS is awesome for the novice, but to make it usable for an expert does require a fair amount of tweaking with some add-on programs and such. Just out of curiosity, what add-ons must be added to OS X to bring it up to par with other OS's out-of-the-box experience?
I use Quicksilver, but I went a long time without it, as Spotlight does essentially the same thing for me (it just doesn't look as nice). I use iStatMenus because I have a Type A personality and I need to know how fast my fans are spinning. That is also the reason that I use GeekTool. That's about it for third-party add-ons for me. I went a long time without these, and I could do fine without them now. I pretty much installed them because I was bored.
I have expose functions mapped to my mouse, keyboard, and screen hot-corners (this takes 4 clicks to configure, if you include opening the preferences pane and actually clicking the option in the pull-down menu). I have dashboard triggered by a hot-corner. BOOM! Weather, sticky notes, translators, calendar, iTunes control, calculator, dictionary (OED!): looked at or used, and gone instantly. I like dashboard now a lot more than I thought I would when I first installed 10.4. I already mentioned Spotlight, which triggers by default with CMD-space, I think (I remapped it to make room for quicksilver).
Wow, this is really off-topic.
Anyways, back to my question: What OS has more 'expert' functionality than OS X? And I assume we're discussing the OS GUI here, not just programs. "OS X doesn't run Half Life" would be a lame response;) And if anyone knows a program or theme that makes Ubuntu respond like OS X (a la expose), I'd be very interested.
All of these games offer great replay value, and some of the best multiplayer I've ever experienced. I could probably think of more games if I took the time.
Or-
How many people died playing pong? How often do we hear about people dying during marathon game sessions these days? I rest my case.
Does anyone know if this will ever be released for OS X? EA recently released a bunch of other games for OS X (to mixed reviews...), but I cannot find anything about this one. The game uses DX10, but the homepage explicitly states that the game is scalable to older systems- there's no reason that this game couldn't be ported.
I have no way of hearing this new album before I buy it. I will not buy it until I can at least hear the 30-second samples that other online stores offer. I have limited bandwidth to be downloading entire albums just to find out if I like them or not.
Also- What format is the album in? What bitrate?
I haven't heard anyone on here say anything about the actual _music_. This business model is not sustainable.
No one is making you do anything. However, some of us weren't around to accumulate a large collection of vinyl that we are now devoted to. Some of us enjoy the portability and low cost of digital music.
Can you listen to your old Zep records in your car? I didn't think so.
That's an intriguing idea. I have to say that I find the 'uncanny valley' problem to be interesting, especially in this sexual context. Part of the problem will be AI and mechanical sophistication, but the other part will consist of properly modeling body shapes and movements. The human brain is very attuned to subtle differences in the ways humans act versus non-humans.
We've been tackling this problem using CGI in big-budget movies, and we're really not even close to being there yet. Surely the CGI budgets for these flicks are bigger than the budgets for any AI research, which leaves me feeling sort of hopeless about the whole thing.
Has this happened before? And if it has, would there be any way to detect that it had happened? It seems strange for something to only happen ONCE in the life of the universe so far, and for it to happen right around the time that we exist...
That's interesting. I have to ask, though- How does the almost homogenous background radiation pattern jibe with your theory? It would seem to me that the event horizon of a black hole would be a very anisotropic place to be, e.g, tidal forces.
This is a very interesting development, I must admit.
However, it is frustrating because I know that it will advance the field of ethics/religion exactly nil.
Obviously this device doesn't prove or disprove the existence of god. That doesn't take religious devotion to think- it's just common sense. See the other posts for more.
However, it IS one step towards understanding ourselves and our universe in the context of a possible god, and yet I can't see real progress being made. It's still early, let me put this in the form of a list:
-We have proven that messianic feelings can be produced with a helmet. -But that doesn't prove anything about god.
-We can change matter from one element to another at will -That proves nothing about the origins of the universe or god.
-We have mastered (literally) earth-shattering new technologies that previously would have been considered magic or divine, yet no one thinks we're divine yet. -That's because only god is divine.
-I have proven that I can create universes in my garage through pure force of will. -So can god, who does exist.
We've all had frustrating circular arguments with fundamentalist of any kind. This will continue into the scientist otter days.
One day a group of scientists got together and decided that man had come a long way and no longer needed God. So they picked one scientist to go and tell Him that they were done with Him.
The scientist walked up to God and said, "God, we've decided that we no longer need you. We're to the point that we can clone people and do many miraculous things, so why don't you just go on and get lost."
God listened very patiently and kindly to the man and after the scientist was done talking, God said, "Very well, how about this, let's say we have a man making contest." To which the scientist replied, "OK, great!"
But God added, "Now, we're going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam."
The scientist said, "Sure, no problem" and bent down and grabbed himself a handful of dirt.
God just looked at him and said, "No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!"
This country needs another Abe Lincoln. A poor man who worked his way up the political ladder. Too bad he'd be filtered out of the system before even starting.
Bill Clinton matches your description to the letter, yet his wife strongly endorses the PMRC (which was cofounded by Tipper Gore). Democrats need to wake up and take their party back.
While your plan might raise awareness of your cause, it has the same fatal flaw as most boycotts: The day after the boycott, people will just go out and buy the CDs that they wanted. It's like a gasoline boycott- people just fill up MORE on the day before and the day after.
Maybe a site called BuyUsedCDs.com would be more effective.
I am having a hard time finding good cost estimates for the cost-per-pound of getting stuff to LEO or GEO. I found a few numbers, and I'll do the math for each. I'll assume that a small QUID weighs around 10 grams (0.022 lbs). Look at the pictures if you don't believe me- those things look like they have some heft.
$118/lb- the QUID will cost $2.59 each to get into LEO (this estimate was very, very optimistic.)
$36,000/kg=$16,329/lb- the QUID will cost $359 to get into GEO.
This doesn't even take into account their goofy 'space purses' and other support equipment. Nor does it take into account the huge amount of space that these things take up. Also, the larger QUIDs are considerably heavier than 10 grams (OK, 'more massive' I guess, as this is space we're talking about).
Hey, here's an idea: Paper money! Pretty hard to counterfeit without trees around, lightweight, non-magnetic, non-toxic, etc. And an even better idea- tie its value to another, previously existing, currency- the US dollar or the Euro would work... Hey! why not just use disinfected US dollars or Euros!
Because that would make sense and it wouldn't make travelex any money. Not that the QUID will, either.
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Sorry to respond to myself, I forgot something. I own an apple airport express with the music support. It works pretty well for me, music-wise. The wireless connection, on the other hand, is crap. Just fwiw.
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Boring??? That sounds like a great saturday night. Home movies: "I know them when I see them".
-b
Can I buy pot from you? ;)
Well, it does it basically for free, if you want to compare commercial OS costs. Most people won't be buying leopard for Time Machine- it's simply an added bonus, like the 300 other new features. This new OS will serve me for a few years for what I spend on music for a month. It's a pretty good deal, IMO. And if you don't want it, then don't buy it. Sheesh. -b
I think it is part of Apple's goal of reducing software-iness and increasing productivity/"experience". I'm just guessing, but I think that with each new iteration of OS X, we'll see less of OS X and (literally) more of iLife, 3rd-party apps, etc. I could see the finder being reduced to a Quicksilver-type helper app.
I believe this because as I've used Apple computers over the years, it seems like they're trying to reduce the PITA-factor of working with their OSes to get a given job done. For that I applaud them.
OTOH, I think this is like the Windows people bitching about how Vista changed the start button around. Big deal.
-b
(forgive me if I'm not the first to bring this up):
I have read several people extolling the virtues of FREE software. Free is better, right? Well, free as in speech: Yes. Free as in beer: Not so much.
Read one of the posts on this thread about how users should use free software. Then imagine a less technical user reading that. OK, now imagine that less-technical user getting frustrated when their tech buddy yells at them for installing free software. Bonzi buddy is free. "Awesome Free Desktops!" is also free. Do you see where I'm going with this?
I would never tell my mom to use free programs; I would tell her to use Open Source software. Open source is good because it's open, not because it's free. That is an important distinction to make.
Sorry I'm so off-topic, but I had to say it.
-b
I use Quicksilver, but I went a long time without it, as Spotlight does essentially the same thing for me (it just doesn't look as nice). I use iStatMenus because I have a Type A personality and I need to know how fast my fans are spinning. That is also the reason that I use GeekTool. That's about it for third-party add-ons for me. I went a long time without these, and I could do fine without them now. I pretty much installed them because I was bored.
I have expose functions mapped to my mouse, keyboard, and screen hot-corners (this takes 4 clicks to configure, if you include opening the preferences pane and actually clicking the option in the pull-down menu).
I have dashboard triggered by a hot-corner. BOOM! Weather, sticky notes, translators, calendar, iTunes control, calculator, dictionary (OED!): looked at or used, and gone instantly. I like dashboard now a lot more than I thought I would when I first installed 10.4.
I already mentioned Spotlight, which triggers by default with CMD-space, I think (I remapped it to make room for quicksilver).
Wow, this is really off-topic.
Anyways, back to my question: What OS has more 'expert' functionality than OS X? And I assume we're discussing the OS GUI here, not just programs. "OS X doesn't run Half Life" would be a lame response
And if anyone knows a program or theme that makes Ubuntu respond like OS X (a la expose), I'd be very interested.
-b
Fallout
Fallout 2
Guitar Hero series
Half-life
Diablo 2
Unreal Tournament
Wii Sports
All of these games offer great replay value, and some of the best multiplayer I've ever experienced. I could probably think of more games if I took the time.
Or-
How many people died playing pong? How often do we hear about people dying during marathon game sessions these days? I rest my case.
-b
Does anyone know if this will ever be released for OS X? EA recently released a bunch of other games for OS X (to mixed reviews...), but I cannot find anything about this one. The game uses DX10, but the homepage explicitly states that the game is scalable to older systems- there's no reason that this game couldn't be ported.
-b
I have no way of hearing this new album before I buy it. I will not buy it until I can at least hear the 30-second samples that other online stores offer. I have limited bandwidth to be downloading entire albums just to find out if I like them or not.
Also- What format is the album in? What bitrate?
I haven't heard anyone on here say anything about the actual _music_. This business model is not sustainable.
-b
No one is making you do anything. However, some of us weren't around to accumulate a large collection of vinyl that we are now devoted to. Some of us enjoy the portability and low cost of digital music.
Can you listen to your old Zep records in your car? I didn't think so.
-b
That's an intriguing idea. I have to say that I find the 'uncanny valley' problem to be interesting, especially in this sexual context. Part of the problem will be AI and mechanical sophistication, but the other part will consist of properly modeling body shapes and movements. The human brain is very attuned to subtle differences in the ways humans act versus non-humans.
We've been tackling this problem using CGI in big-budget movies, and we're really not even close to being there yet. Surely the CGI budgets for these flicks are bigger than the budgets for any AI research, which leaves me feeling sort of hopeless about the whole thing.
-b
Has this happened before? And if it has, would there be any way to detect that it had happened? It seems strange for something to only happen ONCE in the life of the universe so far, and for it to happen right around the time that we exist...
-b
That's interesting. I have to ask, though- How does the almost homogenous background radiation pattern jibe with your theory? It would seem to me that the event horizon of a black hole would be a very anisotropic place to be, e.g, tidal forces.
Fun to think about.
-b
This is a very interesting development, I must admit.
However, it is frustrating because I know that it will advance the field of ethics/religion exactly nil.
Obviously this device doesn't prove or disprove the existence of god. That doesn't take religious devotion to think- it's just common sense. See the other posts for more.
However, it IS one step towards understanding ourselves and our universe in the context of a possible god, and yet I can't see real progress being made. It's still early, let me put this in the form of a list:
-We have proven that messianic feelings can be produced with a helmet.
-But that doesn't prove anything about god.
-We can change matter from one element to another at will
-That proves nothing about the origins of the universe or god.
-We have mastered (literally) earth-shattering new technologies that previously would have been considered magic or divine, yet no one thinks we're divine yet.
-That's because only god is divine.
-I have proven that I can create universes in my garage through pure force of will.
-So can god, who does exist.
We've all had frustrating circular arguments with fundamentalist of any kind. This will continue into the scientist otter days.
sorry, it's still early for me.
-b
...the bulk of them are nerds working on computers trying to break ciphers or improve our own.Freudian slip, eh?
-b
Why don't you leave the computer running? How do updates get pushed through- during the work day? Just curious.
-ben
One day a group of scientists got together and decided that man had come a long way and no longer needed God. So they picked one scientist to go and tell Him that they were done with Him.
The scientist walked up to God and said, "God, we've decided that we no longer need you. We're to the point that we can clone people and do many miraculous things, so why don't you just go on and get lost."
God listened very patiently and kindly to the man and after the scientist was done talking, God said, "Very well, how about this, let's say we have a man making contest." To which the scientist replied, "OK, great!"
But God added, "Now, we're going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam."
The scientist said, "Sure, no problem" and bent down and grabbed himself a handful of dirt.
God just looked at him and said, "No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!"
Bill Clinton matches your description to the letter, yet his wife strongly endorses the PMRC (which was cofounded by Tipper Gore). Democrats need to wake up and take their party back.
While your plan might raise awareness of your cause, it has the same fatal flaw as most boycotts: The day after the boycott, people will just go out and buy the CDs that they wanted. It's like a gasoline boycott- people just fill up MORE on the day before and the day after.
Maybe a site called BuyUsedCDs.com would be more effective.
-b
I am having a hard time finding good cost estimates for the cost-per-pound of getting stuff to LEO or GEO. I found a few numbers, and I'll do the math for each. I'll assume that a small QUID weighs around 10 grams (0.022 lbs). Look at the pictures if you don't believe me- those things look like they have some heft.
$118/lb- the QUID will cost $2.59 each to get into LEO (this estimate was very, very optimistic.)
$36,000/kg=$16,329/lb- the QUID will cost $359 to get into GEO.
This doesn't even take into account their goofy 'space purses' and other support equipment. Nor does it take into account the huge amount of space that these things take up. Also, the larger QUIDs are considerably heavier than 10 grams (OK, 'more massive' I guess, as this is space we're talking about).
Hey, here's an idea: Paper money! Pretty hard to counterfeit without trees around, lightweight, non-magnetic, non-toxic, etc. And an even better idea- tie its value to another, previously existing, currency- the US dollar or the Euro would work... Hey! why not just use disinfected US dollars or Euros!
Because that would make sense and it wouldn't make travelex any money. Not that the QUID will, either.
Sorry to respond to myself, I forgot something. I own an apple airport express with the music support. It works pretty well for me, music-wise. The wireless connection, on the other hand, is crap. Just fwiw.
Are you talking about something like this?
http://www.progressive-av.com/multi_room/slimdevices_squeezebox_wired_network_audio_players.htm