If something like Enron had happened when Clinton was in office
Look here, dingleberry, Enron DID commit its crimes while Clinton was in office, same as Worldcom, same as Tyco, etc. That was my point. Don't forget that Bush didn't take office until January 2001, by which time Enron had been a criminal enterprise for five full years.
Bush's Justice Department cleaned up the mess, beginning less than a year after he took office. He did in a matter of months what Clinton neglected to do for five years. How saying this can be called a troll is beyond me; it's a matter of public record.
That may have been true during good-time Billy's eight-year frat party, but since the adults took over in 2001, plenty of crooked executives have been put in prison by the Bush Administration. That's right, rich white con men are now serving hard time, thanks to George Bush's Justice Department.
Jeff Skilling got sentenced to 24 years in a pound-me-in-the-ass Federal prison, just last week. No possibility of parole.
Bernie Ebbers got a sentence for 25 years last summer.
Andrew Fastow? 10 years.
Dennis Kozlowski? 8 to 25 years.
John Rigas? 15 years.
Samuel Waksal? Seven years.
Jack Abramoff? Almost six years.
Too many people in this country get their news from Michael Moore films. Try reading the paper once in a while.
The only way to correct for something like this is through taxation etc, where the law can be applied and force better behaviour.
Fuck that. That means that all the little people take it in the shorts, while Al Gore and Ted Turner and Laurie David go on swanning about in private jets and eight-car motorcades.
I am convinced that global warming, regardless of its truth or falsehood, has become a hobby horse for the statist Left to grab power and money they could never win in a democratic election.
Until we start confiscating Learjets from rich liberals, I'll spend money and consume energy as I please, and vote for politicians who will allow me to keep doing so.
My guess it's the lack of natural resources in North Korea, forcing them to have a predominantly pre-industrial society.
That's one of the most ill-informed excuses for the failure of collectivist economics that I've ever heard.
Ever hear of a place called Hong Kong? Or Singapore? Teeming with people, severely constrained for resources, and wealthier than any other places in Asia.
It's not the lack of resources. It's the Stalinist tyranny and socialist economic system. Only children, simpletons, and power-hungry ideologues believe in socialism any more. It is the ideology of the ant hill and the nursery school playground, unworthy of free men. It takes no more intellectual sophistication to believe in collectivism than to believe in Santa Claus, for the same reason and to the same effect. Collectivism has caused more human misery than any other idea of the human mind. With every vote I cast and every dollar I give to politicians, I am guided by my desire to see it crushed and swept off the face of the earth.
It's kind of odd that a homophobic male enjoys watching lesbians but is sickened by watching two males together.
Not odd at all. From the point of view of a man, the sight of two women pleasing each other sexually tells his reptilian brain that they are sexually receptive, but short of male companionship, and he is likely to get laid. On the other hand, seeing two gay men together tells him he's a late arrival to a sausage fest, and there is no pussy to be had.
It's just that within the group of US presidents, he's way below average.
Got proof of that? There was a wire-service article making this claim that got a lot of ink back in 2001, but it turned out to be a hoax.
Bush's SAT scores would put him in the top 16% of prospective college students, with an IQ around 115, statistically indistinguishable from the 119 of John F. Kennedy.
Moreover, Bush did very well on his military aptitude tests, so well that it is at least arguable that his IQ is in the 125-130 range and well above that of John Kerry.
Morons don't fly fighter jets without killing themselves, or get degrees from Harvard and Yale. George Bush's daddy may have got him into Yale, but he didn't get him out.
Too many people mistake a lack of glib speaking skills for a low IQ, especially when it confirms their own political prejudices. They are not the same thing at all.
Finally, genius-level IQ is not correlated very well with successful Presidencies, as Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter may testify.
A government that collects a tax and renders no improvement, is not government; it lays down its sovereignty and becomes that of a private citizen, able to sue and be sued, own property and compete with fellow offers of the common good.
I would say that such a government had assumed the mantle not of a citizen, but of a pirate or a bandit and ought to be treated as such.
This world would be a better place if 95% of the politicians, lawyers, and bureaucrats were hanged from lamp-posts by armed mobs, all on one day.
Agreed. The "no blood for oil" crowd would be quite happy to go on indefinitely trading the blood of Kurds, Iraqi dissidents and Kuwaitis for oil. To them, Saddam's victims were just brown people far away and it was no business of ours how they were governed. Also, let's not forget that the "Oil for Food" fiasco was a UN program.
No it doesn't. Most of what you think you know about the economy from listening to the mainstream media is a crock of shit. It's a manifestation of Easterbrook's Law: All economic news is bad.
We are at 4.6% unemployment, which is pretty close to what economists consider full employment, and better than most other developed countries. 5.7 million new jobs have been created since 2003.
The stock market is at all time highs. We've had 57 straight months of economic growth since the Clinton/dot-com mini-recession of 2000-01.
It's true that wage growth is flat since 1999, but if you include benefits, there has been steady growth. Taxes are falling, so after-tax disposable income is higher than it's ever been.
The top five percent of taxpayers pay 57.1% of all taxes under Bush, up from 56.5% under Clinton. At the same time, the share of national income earned by the top 1% has fallen from 21% under Clinton to 19% under Bush. Most families earning less than $40,000 are paying no Federal taxes. The rich are paying their fair share, and then some, and then some more.
The deficit has been cut in half, three years ahead of schedule, and a surplus is in sight if corporate profits continue to grow at current rates.
Inflation is miniscule. Gas prices are down to near their normal inflation-adjusted levels. Food has never been cheaper.
Housing prices are high, but taking a breather while incomes catch up. Mortgage rates are low by historic standards, and headed downwards again.
I lived through the Carter years, sonny. You don't have jack-shit to teach me about an economy that sucks. But if you want to find out, go ahead and vote for the Democrats.
Much better qualities of fun are available once one has the long green rolling in.
You've got a good point there.
To all you college party boys, I bet you like going on spring break with your pals and camping on the beach and chasing skirt. Isn't it funny, though, how all the really hot girls seem to be floating around out of reach on some old douchebag's boat, or partying on the deck of some old douchebag's private oceanfront house?
Well, if you put down the bong and the bottle, tackle a high-paying major, make it through college in four years with good grades, work hard and save for eight or ten frugal years after college, stay single, and stay in shape, you can go there with a couple of buddies and your 42 foot cabin cruiser and BE the old douchebag nailing the smoking hot college chicks.
All of womens' prattle about "soulmates" and "true love conquers all" goes out the window when they get the idea that they might be able to latch on to a rich man. A man's looks, personality, sense of humor and kindliness really don't matter if he has a fat enough wallet. If you play your cards right in your twenties, you can be bagging the hottest bimbos all through your 30's and 40's. Even into your 50's if you are rich and lecherous enough.
I read somewhere that this so called 'brain drain' has been reversed for genetics.
Say, looky looky at the news this morning. Four more American Nobel laureates, including two who won the Medicine prize for work on RNA interference. Some brain drain, eh?
for all you Americans read that as
"lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala genetics lalalalalalalalalalalalaa"
Sometimes I wonder if Eurotrash sneering at the supposed lack of scientific sophistication here is related to insecurity over the "brain drain" from Europe to America that has helped give us more Nobel prizes than any other nation by far.
It also happened with the famous "Lone Cypress" on the 17 Mile Drive in Pebble Beach, California. The owners of the tree say it is their trade mark and can't be photographed without their permission, even from an airplane or boat that is not on their property.
Similar claims have been made for other distinctive structures such as the Flatiron and Chrysler buildings, the Eiffel Tower, and the Hearst mansion.
I think that in the US, vacation pictures and the like are protected, but the copyright has been upheld for commercial photographs. You can't sell a poster of the Eiffel Tower without paying a royalty to the owners.
What is most believable is that Hurd, Dunn, and all the other rich/powerful people will escape justice.
Jeff Skilling, Bernie Ebbers, Dennis Kozlowski, Martha Stewart, and John and Tim Rigas beg to differ with you. George Bush's Justice Department put them all behind bars, some of them for decades.
The bottom line is this: people just don't travel around the world to suicidally attack people who are leaving them alone, simply because they believe those people chose the wrong religion.
More horse shit. Why did the German trains have all those Muslim bombs placed on them this summer? Germany has done nothing but suck up to the Muslim world. It is the most feeble, craven, arse-licking doormat imaginable, the very archetype of hand-wringing guilt-ridden Western liberalism.
It is an objective fact that there is trouble and bloodshed wherever and whenever Islam abuts or invades a non-Muslim culture. This is not open to serious argument. Even the most inoffensive and tolerant non-Muslim nations-- Thailand, for example, or Holland-- suffer greatly at the hands of the Muslim head-choppers.
Now we need to repeal the bill of rights and the constitutional protections".
But, but, the constitution is a "living document". Generations of pious liberals have told us so. Who gives a shit about all that original intent crap?
If the Warren Court could find a right to abortion in the mystical emanations and penumbras of the Constitution, I am willing to cut the Commander in Chief a hell of a lot of slack in his manner of dealing with non-citizen terrorists and jihadis picked up on the battlefield outside our borders.
Be a patriot: Murder a Republican.
How amusing. Have you forgotten who owns the guns in this country? The very day the smelly lefties declare the Revolution is upon us, folks like me are prepared to cut them down in the street like dogs. They would be well advised to stick to the democratic process.
Its very simple, and not unreasonable actually... The Palestinians want (at least some of) their land back, and they want their country back (it was where Israel is now). The Israelis don't want to give (any of) it back.
Total bullshit. The Israelis have given up the Sinai, Gaza, and significant portions of the West Bank, and got nothing but more death and destruction at the hands of the Muslims as their reward. The Paelstinians would already have a country (which they stole from the Jews centuries ago, by the way) if they had stuck to the Oslo accords and given up the gun and bomb.
Nothing Israel does is ever good enough for the Arabs and their sympathizers in the West. The Muslims want ALL of Israel. And every Jew and Hindu slaughtered. And every Christian slaughtered, enslaved, or converted to Islam. And the destruction of liberal democracy. And the imposition of Sharia law in all nations.
This is not a secret conspiracy or the ravings of a tiny minority. It is shouted openly from the pulpit of mosques all over the world every single day. Vast majorities of the Muslim population hold to these beliefs. They are not good Muslims if they don't.
I'm not interested in negotiating with such people. Hand-wringing, guilt-ridden, thumb-sucking, root-cause-contemplating Western liberals have nothing of value to contribute to this problem, nor do cucumber-sandwich-eating Arabist diplomats.
The only answer to this problem is for the armies of the civilized nations to provide speedy martyrdom to each and every Muslim who seeks it. Eventually the jihad gene will be bred out of the population, and those who remain can learn to live in peace with everybody else.
Perhaps. The US doesn't border any Muslim countries. Yet you are a target.
Yes, but we have millions of Muslims within our borders. Pretty much the only non-Muslim countries that are not suffering Muslim attacks are those which do not countenance any significant immigration from Muslim nations: Japan, Iceland, much of South America, etc. If Japan were one-third Muslim, do you really think the Muslim Japanese would be living in peace with their neighbors? As far as I am aware, they would be the first large Muslim minority in any country to do so.
Yes, and so has Steve Ballmer. He's gotten further. Osama leads a few dozen or at most a few hundred people.
Only in the sense that he has any direct supervisory control over them, that is true. But his acolytes among the Salafist/Wahabbist infestation of Islam are doing the job he can't do in person. With Osama as their inspiration, there are hundreds of millions of men, women, and children who would be delighted to kill or die to advance the spread of Islam. Again, anyone who argues this point has done nothing but expose himself as a moron or an ideologue. These are not things about which there can be any shadow of a doubt. Moderate, peaceful Islam has been dead for decades, if it ever existed, except perhaps in a few non-Arab countries such as Turkey and Indonesia.
There are hundreds of non-Muslim countries in the world, and few of them suffer attacks by "Muslim terrorists".
It's only for lack of opportunity. In almost every place in the world where Muslim countries border non-Muslim countries, there is strife and terror and bloodshed. This is a fact not open to argumentation.
I find it laughably naive when people say we'd be safe from Muslim terrorists if only we threw Israel to the wolves and pulled all of our troops out of the Middle East. We are dealing with maniacs who are still boiling mad about the re-conquest of Andalusia 500 years ago. There is no reasoning with such people.
If you were free in California, Osama wouldn't give a shit.
You are quite wrong. Osama and many other Muslim leaders have stated quite clearly that they intend to conquer the world and put non-Muslims to the sword. They will not stop attacking us until everyone in the world is a slave, a Muslim, or dead.
The Left is fond of comparing Osama to Emmanuel Goldstein, protraying him as a bogeyman set up by the CIA for the purposes of stirring up anti-Muslim, pro-war sentiment. However, this requires willful ignorance of what is being preached in mosques everywhere, day in and day out. There is no longer a moderate Islamic tradition worthy of the name. The Saudis have financed the Wahhabization of most of Islam.
We are heading for a dark and ugly time in world history. It seems clear to me that a hundred years from now, either Islam or Western civilization will have been exterminated.
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Look here, dingleberry, Enron DID commit its crimes while Clinton was in office, same as Worldcom, same as Tyco, etc. That was my point. Don't forget that Bush didn't take office until January 2001, by which time Enron had been a criminal enterprise for five full years.
Bush's Justice Department cleaned up the mess, beginning less than a year after he took office. He did in a matter of months what Clinton neglected to do for five years. How saying this can be called a troll is beyond me; it's a matter of public record.
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That may have been true during good-time Billy's eight-year frat party, but since the adults took over in 2001, plenty of crooked executives have been put in prison by the Bush Administration. That's right, rich white con men are now serving hard time, thanks to George Bush's Justice Department.
Jeff Skilling got sentenced to 24 years in a pound-me-in-the-ass Federal prison, just last week. No possibility of parole.
Bernie Ebbers got a sentence for 25 years last summer.
Andrew Fastow? 10 years.
Dennis Kozlowski? 8 to 25 years.
John Rigas? 15 years.
Samuel Waksal? Seven years.
Jack Abramoff? Almost six years.
Too many people in this country get their news from Michael Moore films. Try reading the paper once in a while.
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I'm aware of at least one site still running System 7.5.5 on 68040 hardware, because it works fine for what they need.
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Fuck that. That means that all the little people take it in the shorts, while Al Gore and Ted Turner and Laurie David go on swanning about in private jets and eight-car motorcades.
I am convinced that global warming, regardless of its truth or falsehood, has become a hobby horse for the statist Left to grab power and money they could never win in a democratic election.
Until we start confiscating Learjets from rich liberals, I'll spend money and consume energy as I please, and vote for politicians who will allow me to keep doing so.
-ccm
That's one of the most ill-informed excuses for the failure of collectivist economics that I've ever heard.
Ever hear of a place called Hong Kong? Or Singapore? Teeming with people, severely constrained for resources, and wealthier than any other places in Asia.
It's not the lack of resources. It's the Stalinist tyranny and socialist economic system. Only children, simpletons, and power-hungry ideologues believe in socialism any more. It is the ideology of the ant hill and the nursery school playground, unworthy of free men. It takes no more intellectual sophistication to believe in collectivism than to believe in Santa Claus, for the same reason and to the same effect. Collectivism has caused more human misery than any other idea of the human mind. With every vote I cast and every dollar I give to politicians, I am guided by my desire to see it crushed and swept off the face of the earth.
I've been a loyal Mac owner since 1989, and I heartily agree that public art is a waste of money.
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Not odd at all. From the point of view of a man, the sight of two women pleasing each other sexually tells his reptilian brain that they are sexually receptive, but short of male companionship, and he is likely to get laid. On the other hand, seeing two gay men together tells him he's a late arrival to a sausage fest, and there is no pussy to be had.
-ccm
Got proof of that? There was a wire-service article making this claim that got a lot of ink back in 2001, but it turned out to be a hoax.
Bush's SAT scores would put him in the top 16% of prospective college students, with an IQ around 115, statistically indistinguishable from the 119 of John F. Kennedy.
Moreover, Bush did very well on his military aptitude tests, so well that it is at least arguable that his IQ is in the 125-130 range and well above that of John Kerry.
Morons don't fly fighter jets without killing themselves, or get degrees from Harvard and Yale. George Bush's daddy may have got him into Yale, but he didn't get him out.
Too many people mistake a lack of glib speaking skills for a low IQ, especially when it confirms their own political prejudices. They are not the same thing at all.
Finally, genius-level IQ is not correlated very well with successful Presidencies, as Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter may testify.
-ccm
I would say that such a government had assumed the mantle not of a citizen, but of a pirate or a bandit and ought to be treated as such.
This world would be a better place if 95% of the politicians, lawyers, and bureaucrats were hanged from lamp-posts by armed mobs, all on one day.
-ccm
Agreed. The "no blood for oil" crowd would be quite happy to go on indefinitely trading the blood of Kurds, Iraqi dissidents and Kuwaitis for oil. To them, Saddam's victims were just brown people far away and it was no business of ours how they were governed. Also, let's not forget that the "Oil for Food" fiasco was a UN program.
-ccm
No it doesn't. Most of what you think you know about the economy from listening to the mainstream media is a crock of shit. It's a manifestation of Easterbrook's Law: All economic news is bad.
We are at 4.6% unemployment, which is pretty close to what economists consider full employment, and better than most other developed countries. 5.7 million new jobs have been created since 2003.
The stock market is at all time highs. We've had 57 straight months of economic growth since the Clinton/dot-com mini-recession of 2000-01.
It's true that wage growth is flat since 1999, but if you include benefits, there has been steady growth. Taxes are falling, so after-tax disposable income is higher than it's ever been.
The top five percent of taxpayers pay 57.1% of all taxes under Bush, up from 56.5% under Clinton. At the same time, the share of national income earned by the top 1% has fallen from 21% under Clinton to 19% under Bush. Most families earning less than $40,000 are paying no Federal taxes. The rich are paying their fair share, and then some, and then some more.
The deficit has been cut in half, three years ahead of schedule, and a surplus is in sight if corporate profits continue to grow at current rates.
Inflation is miniscule. Gas prices are down to near their normal inflation-adjusted levels. Food has never been cheaper.
Housing prices are high, but taking a breather while incomes catch up. Mortgage rates are low by historic standards, and headed downwards again.
I lived through the Carter years, sonny. You don't have jack-shit to teach me about an economy that sucks. But if you want to find out, go ahead and vote for the Democrats.
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You've got a good point there.
To all you college party boys, I bet you like going on spring break with your pals and camping on the beach and chasing skirt. Isn't it funny, though, how all the really hot girls seem to be floating around out of reach on some old douchebag's boat, or partying on the deck of some old douchebag's private oceanfront house?
Well, if you put down the bong and the bottle, tackle a high-paying major, make it through college in four years with good grades, work hard and save for eight or ten frugal years after college, stay single, and stay in shape, you can go there with a couple of buddies and your 42 foot cabin cruiser and BE the old douchebag nailing the smoking hot college chicks.
All of womens' prattle about "soulmates" and "true love conquers all" goes out the window when they get the idea that they might be able to latch on to a rich man. A man's looks, personality, sense of humor and kindliness really don't matter if he has a fat enough wallet. If you play your cards right in your twenties, you can be bagging the hottest bimbos all through your 30's and 40's. Even into your 50's if you are rich and lecherous enough.
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Say, looky looky at the news this morning. Four more American Nobel laureates, including two who won the Medicine prize for work on RNA interference. Some brain drain, eh?
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Sometimes I wonder if Eurotrash sneering at the supposed lack of scientific sophistication here is related to insecurity over the "brain drain" from Europe to America that has helped give us more Nobel prizes than any other nation by far.
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Similar claims have been made for other distinctive structures such as the Flatiron and Chrysler buildings, the Eiffel Tower, and the Hearst mansion.
I think that in the US, vacation pictures and the like are protected, but the copyright has been upheld for commercial photographs. You can't sell a poster of the Eiffel Tower without paying a royalty to the owners.
Jeff Skilling, Bernie Ebbers, Dennis Kozlowski, Martha Stewart, and John and Tim Rigas beg to differ with you. George Bush's Justice Department put them all behind bars, some of them for decades.
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More horse shit. Why did the German trains have all those Muslim bombs placed on them this summer? Germany has done nothing but suck up to the Muslim world. It is the most feeble, craven, arse-licking doormat imaginable, the very archetype of hand-wringing guilt-ridden Western liberalism.
It is an objective fact that there is trouble and bloodshed wherever and whenever Islam abuts or invades a non-Muslim culture. This is not open to serious argument. Even the most inoffensive and tolerant non-Muslim nations-- Thailand, for example, or Holland-- suffer greatly at the hands of the Muslim head-choppers.
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But, but, the constitution is a "living document". Generations of pious liberals have told us so. Who gives a shit about all that original intent crap?
If the Warren Court could find a right to abortion in the mystical emanations and penumbras of the Constitution, I am willing to cut the Commander in Chief a hell of a lot of slack in his manner of dealing with non-citizen terrorists and jihadis picked up on the battlefield outside our borders.
Be a patriot: Murder a Republican.
How amusing. Have you forgotten who owns the guns in this country? The very day the smelly lefties declare the Revolution is upon us, folks like me are prepared to cut them down in the street like dogs. They would be well advised to stick to the democratic process.
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Total bullshit. The Israelis have given up the Sinai, Gaza, and significant portions of the West Bank, and got nothing but more death and destruction at the hands of the Muslims as their reward. The Paelstinians would already have a country (which they stole from the Jews centuries ago, by the way) if they had stuck to the Oslo accords and given up the gun and bomb.
Nothing Israel does is ever good enough for the Arabs and their sympathizers in the West. The Muslims want ALL of Israel. And every Jew and Hindu slaughtered. And every Christian slaughtered, enslaved, or converted to Islam. And the destruction of liberal democracy. And the imposition of Sharia law in all nations.
This is not a secret conspiracy or the ravings of a tiny minority. It is shouted openly from the pulpit of mosques all over the world every single day. Vast majorities of the Muslim population hold to these beliefs. They are not good Muslims if they don't.
I'm not interested in negotiating with such people. Hand-wringing, guilt-ridden, thumb-sucking, root-cause-contemplating Western liberals have nothing of value to contribute to this problem, nor do cucumber-sandwich-eating Arabist diplomats.
The only answer to this problem is for the armies of the civilized nations to provide speedy martyrdom to each and every Muslim who seeks it. Eventually the jihad gene will be bred out of the population, and those who remain can learn to live in peace with everybody else.
I didn't know they had pound-me-in-the-ass prisons for women. Sounds like a plot for a cheap porno movie to me.
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Wasn't the Balrog of Morgoth sort of an anti-Maia too?
And were all the Wizards (I can only remember Saruman and Radagast, besides Gandalf) Istari or were some Maia?
Hard to remember all that stuff.
Yes, but we have millions of Muslims within our borders. Pretty much the only non-Muslim countries that are not suffering Muslim attacks are those which do not countenance any significant immigration from Muslim nations: Japan, Iceland, much of South America, etc. If Japan were one-third Muslim, do you really think the Muslim Japanese would be living in peace with their neighbors? As far as I am aware, they would be the first large Muslim minority in any country to do so.
Yes, and so has Steve Ballmer. He's gotten further. Osama leads a few dozen or at most a few hundred people.
Only in the sense that he has any direct supervisory control over them, that is true. But his acolytes among the Salafist/Wahabbist infestation of Islam are doing the job he can't do in person. With Osama as their inspiration, there are hundreds of millions of men, women, and children who would be delighted to kill or die to advance the spread of Islam. Again, anyone who argues this point has done nothing but expose himself as a moron or an ideologue. These are not things about which there can be any shadow of a doubt. Moderate, peaceful Islam has been dead for decades, if it ever existed, except perhaps in a few non-Arab countries such as Turkey and Indonesia.
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It's only for lack of opportunity. In almost every place in the world where Muslim countries border non-Muslim countries, there is strife and terror and bloodshed. This is a fact not open to argumentation.
I find it laughably naive when people say we'd be safe from Muslim terrorists if only we threw Israel to the wolves and pulled all of our troops out of the Middle East. We are dealing with maniacs who are still boiling mad about the re-conquest of Andalusia 500 years ago. There is no reasoning with such people.
If you were free in California, Osama wouldn't give a shit.
You are quite wrong. Osama and many other Muslim leaders have stated quite clearly that they intend to conquer the world and put non-Muslims to the sword. They will not stop attacking us until everyone in the world is a slave, a Muslim, or dead.
The Left is fond of comparing Osama to Emmanuel Goldstein, protraying him as a bogeyman set up by the CIA for the purposes of stirring up anti-Muslim, pro-war sentiment. However, this requires willful ignorance of what is being preached in mosques everywhere, day in and day out. There is no longer a moderate Islamic tradition worthy of the name. The Saudis have financed the Wahhabization of most of Islam.
We are heading for a dark and ugly time in world history. It seems clear to me that a hundred years from now, either Islam or Western civilization will have been exterminated.
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