Haha, this is ridiculous.
There's no argument other than "it's wrong", because, really, it's wrong.
It's legally wrong, as you're infringing copyright and intellectual property laws, and it's morally wrong, because you're being a freeloader and taking unfair advantage of someone else.
If something is both against the law and morally wrong, what further explanation do you require to admit it's wrong?
Your arguments so far were all teenager crap like "they're rich so they won't notice", "their art sucks so they get what they deserve" and similar senseless babble.
Actually this last post of your makes it so obvious you're a troll that I'm feeling real stupid for arguing with you in the first place.
If she wanted people to download her music for free, she would make her music available for download in her site. I have to admit it's been long since last time I visited her site, but the only audio files for download I remember seeing there were versions of one of her songs performed by other artists that were part of a sort of contest she used to raise money for charity or something like that.
That someone is already too rich to feel the hit of your piracy is no reason to pirate stuff. That someone is too lousy that deserves to go bankrupt is no reason to pirate stuff either.
This is just so wrong and against common sense I'm having a hard time believing you think that way. FFS, you want to pirate stuff, just do it, but don't claim it's "right".
It doesn't matter. It makes no difference whatsoever. If someone wants to get rich off of their creative work they're entitled to it. If their only motivation is to make art for the sake of art, then they will spontaneously make their work free of charge. You can't decide that a specific artist shouldn't get money for their work, it's up to them.
How so? This is absurd.
I enjoy (most of) Björk's music. I just went to Isohunt and downloaded her entire discography.
Björk worked, I'm enjoying her work and I'm not paying her. How is that fair?
Unless we're talking about vonluntary work, people have to get paid.
Of course it is wrong. You're getting access to someone's creative work without paying them for it.
It's as wrong as borrowing a book and scanning it. As wrong as pirating commercial software.
Nowhere in your post I see an argument to justify why you think you can get something for nothing.
I still do it all the time, yes, but that doesn't make it right.
Not really. A lot of the times, a small computer vendor will buy these "quality counterfeit" Windows and Office CDs and add the same price or just a little below the actual MS genuine software to the final computer price to squeeze that little extra profit from people that don't know better.
Yes, agreed.
My torrent client is up 24/7 downloading almost exclusively copyrighted material, but I'm aware I shouldn't be doing it. I do it because it's cheaper, faster, easier, more convenient, etc...
I'll never understand people that try to make it sound right with faulty arguments.
I remember a couple of years ago I was very concerned about this matter, trusted computing sounded like a nightmare, I even talked about it with all my friends, and suggested they should boycott those hardware vendors that were working on or endorsing this project...
then suddenly I forgot about it... I can't tell if I simply stopped caring about avoiding the changes and starting to trust I'll be able to adapt (which is rather selfish, but hey, pragmatic), or if it's the certainty that someone will be working on alternatives and possibilities, either way, I'm no longer worried.
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The only thing stopping me from raping Natalie Portman is an ocean.
Way to ruin the joke...
Eternal Lands...
Haha, this is ridiculous. There's no argument other than "it's wrong", because, really, it's wrong. It's legally wrong, as you're infringing copyright and intellectual property laws, and it's morally wrong, because you're being a freeloader and taking unfair advantage of someone else. If something is both against the law and morally wrong, what further explanation do you require to admit it's wrong? Your arguments so far were all teenager crap like "they're rich so they won't notice", "their art sucks so they get what they deserve" and similar senseless babble. Actually this last post of your makes it so obvious you're a troll that I'm feeling real stupid for arguing with you in the first place.
Benefiting from someone else's work for free without their consent is wrong.
Wow, this is a lot of nonsense!
If she wanted people to download her music for free, she would make her music available for download in her site. I have to admit it's been long since last time I visited her site, but the only audio files for download I remember seeing there were versions of one of her songs performed by other artists that were part of a sort of contest she used to raise money for charity or something like that.
That someone is already too rich to feel the hit of your piracy is no reason to pirate stuff.
That someone is too lousy that deserves to go bankrupt is no reason to pirate stuff either.
This is just so wrong and against common sense I'm having a hard time believing you think that way.
FFS, you want to pirate stuff, just do it, but don't claim it's "right".
It doesn't matter. It makes no difference whatsoever.
If someone wants to get rich off of their creative work they're entitled to it.
If their only motivation is to make art for the sake of art, then they will spontaneously make their work free of charge.
You can't decide that a specific artist shouldn't get money for their work, it's up to them.
How so? This is absurd. I enjoy (most of) Björk's music. I just went to Isohunt and downloaded her entire discography. Björk worked, I'm enjoying her work and I'm not paying her. How is that fair? Unless we're talking about vonluntary work, people have to get paid.
Of course it is wrong. You're getting access to someone's creative work without paying them for it. It's as wrong as borrowing a book and scanning it. As wrong as pirating commercial software. Nowhere in your post I see an argument to justify why you think you can get something for nothing. I still do it all the time, yes, but that doesn't make it right.
You can't possibly be serious in your reply.
Not really.
A lot of the times, a small computer vendor will buy these "quality counterfeit" Windows and Office CDs and add the same price or just a little below the actual MS genuine software to the final computer price to squeeze that little extra profit from people that don't know better.
That's pretty common here in the 3rd world.
Yes, agreed. My torrent client is up 24/7 downloading almost exclusively copyrighted material, but I'm aware I shouldn't be doing it. I do it because it's cheaper, faster, easier, more convenient, etc... I'll never understand people that try to make it sound right with faulty arguments.
... thank them.
It was a joke. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there, etc...
He said "normals", not christians.
What MUD was that? ZombieMUD?
Great. The spreadsheet application is about to go live!
It's Youtube. They can handle /. traffic.
Sex is overratted and too expensive.
That's why I say people should be certified before allowed to breed.
I can't help but think that finally God listened to that prayer "please allow me to punch people over standard TCP/IP".
I remember a couple of years ago I was very concerned about this matter, trusted computing sounded like a nightmare, I even talked about it with all my friends, and suggested they should boycott those hardware vendors that were working on or endorsing this project... then suddenly I forgot about it... I can't tell if I simply stopped caring about avoiding the changes and starting to trust I'll be able to adapt (which is rather selfish, but hey, pragmatic), or if it's the certainty that someone will be working on alternatives and possibilities, either way, I'm no longer worried.