Having determined that most of the posters to this Ask Slashdot have decided to buck the trend of mindlessly supporting Open Source philosophy by mindlessly opposing Open Source, I'd like to offer a suggestion to the Asker.
First, base your project on an existing Open Source project. Show the client how much value s/he gets from starting with the project(s), not limited to the fact that others have reviewed the code.
Second, once the client sees that h(i|er)s project will benefit and that the total project will cost less, explain the need for continuous updates and maintenance. Explain how costly it will be to maintain that work totally and solely in house.
Then, propose a solution to 'leverage' the Open Source community to assist with the project by releasing the changes, with the client's approval, back to the project. Explain the benefit of many eyes and many users perfecting the codebase.
This is exactly what I and a colleague have done with a very properietary-minded client. Now he's onboard for releasing the modifications and enhancements we will create back into the project community. Actually, he's excited to do this.
The way to your client's heart is through the bottom line.
I have a slightly used Titanium G4 550 available. Up to dat with all releases and patches, has Fink, XDarwin, MS Office X, Mozilla 1.00 RC1, python, etc. Works beautifully, slightly tarnished reputation do to unfortunate political association.
That's exactly my situation: I replaced my toshiba 2805 w/ Orinoco Silver with a TiG4 550 & internal Aiport (not easy to install!). Downstairs became "too far" even though it's line of site and not more than 35 feet. Thanks for the suggestion.
CW: What if you have to go to the bathroom or get up to get a Coke?
JK: I guess there's a certain amount of tolerance for going to the bathroom. But if you formalize it and you create a device that skips certain second increments, you've got that only for one reason, unless you go to the bathroom for 30 seconds. They've done that just to make it easy for someone to skip a commercial.
A certain amount of tolerance? What if I have a bladder infection and exceed that certain amount of tolerance? Holy Out-of-Touch-with-Reality, BatMan!
My certain amount of tolerance of overreaching entertainment industry executives has been breached long ago.
This idiot is dreaming. Commercials are "station breaks" that allow the viewer to snap out of catatonia and grab a beer/coke/glass of water, or, that having been done in the previous break, to return said beverage to the depths of the earth. Optionally, one can engage in "quality conversation" with a significant other or visiting dignitary.
I'm sitting here importing client data directly
from a client-provided MS Access MDB into a
Linux-hosted MySQL database using Linux on my
Toshiba Satellite laptop, reading Slashdot on Konq
while running another series of sessions on my
PBTiG4 550 running OS X. See, I'm on a "working vacation"
1500 miles from home and my Internet connection
is not very stable, so I'm moving my server-side development
environment from the remote Linux server to my Toshiba
and then using my development tools on OS X, which
has become my defacto development environment. And,
to import the Access (Jet 4.0) database I'm using
mdbtools to
process MDB files directly from Linux (no need to dualboot, or use Access under Virtual PC on Mac OS X or Win4Lin on Linux).
So, I'm not the typical user, either, as the author presupposes in his "survey" as you described. But I am a True Convert to Mac OS X and things Macintosh. Funny how OS X throws the old assumptions about Mac users out the Window.
Funny. In 1982-3 I worked as a late night Dj at a Christian Rock station in San Antonio, TX (KSLR 96FM, later 630AM; at the time it was one of the top Christian Rock stations in the nation). The Friday night/Saturday night DJ played the "red dots" - the hot songs in the rotation - and some "black dots" (which meant don't you DARE play this except during the weekend rock show). For a while U2 was in the rotation with "40", "Sunday Bloody Sunday ('claim the victory Jesus won')", "New Year's Day" (thought to refer to the Second Coming), etc. That is until Bono went to Austin, Tx, and appeared on a "regular" Rock station to promote a tour and nearly cost that station its license with his vulgar language.
I still think Bono and 2 of the other 3 are recalcitrant Christians wandering in the vanity of the current age, listless...(the 4th member, who always faces a different direction from Bono and the other 2 on album covers and publicity shots, is supposed to be the group's unrepentant unbeliever).
I'm probably one of those who register and don't come back after a couple hours to d/l. Two reasons:
Timeliness
When I am searching for a software product it's not a leisure activity, rather it's usually directly related to my job and I 'm looking for a solution
now (a lot of contracts depend on finding existing sofware to handle certain features off the bat as a base). When I have to wait more than a few minutes for the registration key (yes, I use a real, albeit HoTMaiL, address) I go to the next resource.
Internal Server Error, or [ODBC Error], etc
I can't believe how many times I've gone through the torturous sign-up process only to find an error in the download process. Perhaps your potential clients are getting an error -- or, perhaps some other inconvenience? This happened to me more than once at Sun.com.
My searching usually begins with CPAN (the crown jewel of Perl), freshmeat.net (very relevant), sourceforge (third, because there are SO MANY empty shell projects), Google. Once I get to Google I begin to look for non-open source projects.
For example, I spent a long time looking for a decent in-the-browser page editor for hosting clients to edit their pages online. I looked for a long time, actually not starting out in the open source realm for some reason, and tried many of the low-cost closed source page editor solutions (mainly perl based). Most were simply some form of "here's a TEXTAREA field with the page code; have fun". The few attempts at a WYSIWYG editor, in the commercial offerings I found, were laughable. But then I found Richtext Editor on sourceforge. WOW! This is the slickest in-page editor I've seen to date. Yeah, it has a ways to go, but provides an incredible headstart to getting there. Will I contribute back my changes? Of course -- that's the way you "pay" open source projects. Love it. It only works with IE 5+ - for now (and 92% of thise visting our sites use IE 5+).
First harddrives will start to fill up with fully-imersive holo-pr0n, followed quickly, due to adaptive marketing trends by fully-imersive unsolicitted holo-spam.
Of course, this will require the Macromedia Flesh plug-in...
On operating systems that enforce security on per-user basis, such as Mac OS X, the specific actions that an attacker's code can take would be limited to those allowed by the privileges of the user's account.
If you use the less-than-root privileged default user setup the impact of these remotely exploitable holes is mitigated. And you can thank the underlying UNIX system for that bit of goodness.
learn the user interface of your development platform, adhere to its principles even at the risk of causing you, the developer, more work and you'll have much happier users.
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Not so, Mr. Coward. Look at RedHat's Interchange. No gamble there.
First, base your project on an existing Open Source project. Show the client how much value s/he gets from starting with the project(s), not limited to the fact that others have reviewed the code.
Second, once the client sees that h(i|er)s project will benefit and that the total project will cost less, explain the need for continuous updates and maintenance. Explain how costly it will be to maintain that work totally and solely in house.
Then, propose a solution to 'leverage' the Open Source community to assist with the project by releasing the changes, with the client's approval, back to the project. Explain the benefit of many eyes and many users perfecting the codebase.
This is exactly what I and a colleague have done with a very properietary-minded client. Now he's onboard for releasing the modifications and enhancements we will create back into the project community. Actually, he's excited to do this.
The way to your client's heart is through the bottom line.
I have a slightly used Titanium G4 550 available. Up to dat with all releases and patches, has Fink, XDarwin, MS Office X, Mozilla 1.00 RC1, python, etc. Works beautifully, slightly tarnished reputation do to unfortunate political association.
Are you trolling or just not real observant? The translation of the phrase Dura lex, sed lex is given in the text: The law is hard, but it is the law.
sorry - was just in a pissy mood. No offense, nor meaning, intended.
pretty snooty for such a weak minded ignot
Actually, A new macintosh purchased just two years ago is now old.
Your first use of the +1 Bonus?
That's exactly my situation: I replaced my toshiba 2805 w/ Orinoco Silver with a TiG4 550 & internal Aiport (not easy to install!). Downstairs became "too far" even though it's line of site and not more than 35 feet. Thanks for the suggestion.
my favorite quote from Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing
There are times that DDoS makes sense...
I hereby offer my vast stores of lipids for the benefit of humanity.
My certain amount of tolerance of overreaching entertainment industry executives has been breached long ago.
Contractual obligation to view the ads? Rubbish.
So, I'm not the typical user, either, as the author presupposes in his "survey" as you described. But I am a True Convert to Mac OS X and things Macintosh. Funny how OS X throws the old assumptions about Mac users out the Window.
I still think Bono and 2 of the other 3 are recalcitrant Christians wandering in the vanity of the current age, listless...(the 4th member, who always faces a different direction from Bono and the other 2 on album covers and publicity shots, is supposed to be the group's unrepentant unbeliever).
is very responsive, according to my daily experience.
IE on OS X sucks air.
I've been using the nightlies since 0.9.9 and they've all been good and getting better.
- Timeliness
- When I am searching for a software product it's not a leisure activity, rather it's usually directly related to my job and I 'm looking for a solution
- now (a lot of contracts depend on finding existing sofware to handle certain features off the bat as a base). When I have to wait more than a few minutes for the registration key (yes, I use a real, albeit HoTMaiL, address) I go to the next resource.
- Internal Server Error, or [ODBC Error], etc
- I can't believe how many times I've gone through the torturous sign-up process only to find an error in the download process. Perhaps your potential clients are getting an error -- or, perhaps some other inconvenience? This happened to me more than once at Sun.com.
My searching usually begins with CPAN (the crown jewel of Perl), freshmeat.net (very relevant), sourceforge (third, because there are SO MANY empty shell projects), Google. Once I get to Google I begin to look for non-open source projects.For example, I spent a long time looking for a decent in-the-browser page editor for hosting clients to edit their pages online. I looked for a long time, actually not starting out in the open source realm for some reason, and tried many of the low-cost closed source page editor solutions (mainly perl based). Most were simply some form of "here's a TEXTAREA field with the page code; have fun". The few attempts at a WYSIWYG editor, in the commercial offerings I found, were laughable. But then I found Richtext Editor on sourceforge. WOW! This is the slickest in-page editor I've seen to date. Yeah, it has a ways to go, but provides an incredible headstart to getting there. Will I contribute back my changes? Of course -- that's the way you "pay" open source projects. Love it. It only works with IE 5+ - for now (and 92% of thise visting our sites use IE 5+).
- First harddrives will start to fill up with fully-imersive holo-pr0n, followed quickly, due to adaptive marketing trends by fully-imersive unsolicitted holo-spam.
Of course, this will require the Macromedia Flesh plug-in...- On operating systems that enforce security on per-user basis, such as Mac OS X, the specific actions that an attacker's code can take would be limited to those allowed by the privileges of the user's account.
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learn the user interface of your development platform, adhere to its principles even at the risk of causing you, the developer, more work and you'll have much happier users.
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And Delphi has announced a preview of its TTY service