Edmund: Oh, alright, then. (sits) What's your big plan, blockhead?
Percy: I intend to discover, this very afternoon, the secret of alchemy -- the hidden art of turning base things into gold.
Edmund: I see, and the fact that this secret has eluded the most intelligent people since the dawn of time doesn't dampen your spirits at all.
Percy: Oh no; I like a challenge!
[later]
Percy: (rushes out the living room, dirtied) My Lord! Success!
Edmund: What?
Percy: (drags Edmund into the living room) After literally an hour's ceaseless searching, I have succeeded in creating gold. PURE GOLD!
Edmund: Are you sure?
Percy: Yes, My Lord! Behold! (uncovers the top; their faces get bathed in green light)
Edmund: Percy, it's green.
Percy: That's right, My Lord.
Edmund: Yes, Percy, I don't want to be pedantic or anything, but the color of gold is gold -- that's why it's called gold. What you have dis covered, if it has a name, is some green.
Percy: (stupefied; picks up the green) Oh, Edmund, can it be true? that I hold here, in my mortal hand, a nugget of purest green?
Edmund: Indeed you do, Percy, except, of course, it's not only a nugget as it is more of a splat.
Percy: Well, yes, a splat today, but tomorrow, who knows? or dares to dream!
Edmund: So we three alone in all the world can create the finest green at will.
Percy: Thus so! (whispers) I'm not sure about counting in Baldrick, actually.
Edmund: Of course, you know what your great discovery means, don't you, Percy.
Percy: (smiles) Perhaps, My Lord.
Edmund: That you, Percy -- Lord Percy -- are an utter berk!
Well, I know absolute numbers proof nothing (I mean, look at the/. polls *grin*), but I do find it interesting that Linux seems to be a largely Europaen affair. Another interesting - IMO - thing to note is that Japan is surprisingly weak represented (some 800 registered users), whereas Korea (South) is very strong (only Asian country in the Top Ten). Anyone ideas why?
Mister Humenberger has filed the trademark 'Linux' for Germany in 1993.
He agreed to transfer his rights to Linus Torvalds in 1997 after an effortless try to get linux.de to acknowledge this rights. (see URL below)
You can file a trademark again in Germany. However you will only succeed in defending it if you can proof that you used the mark before the original filing occurred in a commercial context. This seems very unlikely.
So why did they do it? Publicity stunt? Ignorance? I don't know. But their chances are next to none.
The article referred to in the/. article has already been much critizised for being inaccurate and sensation-seeking.
IIRC inetd is turned on by default on Redhat. The newbie thinks "Great, Internet, I need that". Trouble is that/etc/hosts.allow and/etc/hosts.deny are empty and/etc/inetd.conf has turned on ftp and pop by default.
I mean, what's the use of all those security updates and fixes if the worst holes are provided as an installation default? And with services like dynIP the problem even gets much worse. In its current form Linux is pure dynamite in the hands of people that have no idea of how to smell the fuse.
The author's proposal of having server and workstation editions will at least work for the sensible portion of new users. The rest will have to learn by error, I am afraid.
Slashdot:Slashdot:Slashdot:Slashdot:Your Rights Online:Slashdot Introduces YRO
[ Slashdot.org ] Posted by CmdrTaco on 16:00 10 September 1999 UTC from the what-a-dumb-acronym dept. Now that the new hardware is in place, I'm happy to announce the first new section on Slashdot: Your Rights Online [YRO] is a place where we can go into greater depth on the issues surrounding freedoms and liberties on the Net, and really in the world at large. So much happens in this area that the Slashdot Homepage just doesn't have enough room to host it all, so while YRO will appear on Slashdot when I think its relevant to everyone, it will largely stand alone. Read on to learn more about the section.
Slashdot Self-Reference Factor (SSRF) now 9 and rising. Scotty, we're heating up!
How many times do you find the term 'Slashdot' in this text:
Slashdot:Slashdot:Your Rights Online:Slashdot Introduces YRO
[ Slashdot.org ] Posted by CmdrTaco on 16:00 10 September 1999 UTC from the what-a-dumb-acronym dept. Now that the new hardware is in place, I'm happy to announce the first new section on Slashdot: Your Rights Online [YRO] is a place where we can go into greater depth on the issues surrounding freedoms and liberties on the Net, and really in the world at large. So much happens in this area that the Slashdot Homepage just doesn't have enough room to host it all, so while YRO will appear on Slashdot when I think its relevant to everyone, it will largely stand alone. Read on to learn more about the section.
The right answer is seven.
God, looks like another zero score posting. Where has my karma gone? kaaaarmaaaa!
As a representative of the Linux community, participate in mailing list and newsgroup discussions in a professional manner.
Refrain from name-calling and use of vulgar language. Consider yourself a member of a virtual corporation with Mr.Torvalds as your Chief Executive Officer. Your words will either enhance or degrade the image the reader has of the Linux community.
Avoid hyperbole and unsubstantiated claims at all costs. It's unprofessional and will result in unproductive discussions.
A thoughtful, well-reasoned response to a posting will not only provide insight for your readers, but will also increase their respect for your knowledge and abilities.
Don't bite if offered flame-bait. Too many threads degenerate into a ``My O/S is better than your O/S'' argument. Let's accurately describe the capabilities of Linux and leave it at that.
Always remember that if you insult or are disrespectful to someone, their negative experience may be shared with many others. If you do offend someone, please try to make amends.
Focus on what Linux has to offer. There is no need to bash the competition. Linux is a good, solid product that stands on its own.
Respect the use of other operating systems. While Linux is a wonderful platform, it does not meet everyone's needs.
Refer to another product by its proper name. There's nothing to be gained by attempting to ridicule a company or its products by using ``creative spelling''. If we expect respect for Linux, we must respect other products.
Give credit where credit is due. Linux is just the kernel. Without the efforts of people involved with the GNU project, MIT, Berkeley and others too numerous to mention, the Linux kernel would not be very useful to most people.
Don't insist that Linux is the only answer for a particular application. Just as the Linux community cherishes the freedom that Linux provides them, Linux only solutions would deprive others of their freedom.
There will be cases where Linux is not the answer. Be the first to recognize this and offer another solution.
Opera's text browser PNG is showing either tables or stylesheet formatting!
Well, that's nothing unusual. Have a look at the w3m browser which also comes with tables (hp is at http://ei5nazha.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/~aito/w3m/eng/ )
Although I really appreciate the efforts of the guys over there at opera, I am not quite sure if using Qt was a good descision.
Apart from the license question I am not in favor of programs using a library that is almost exclusively used by one set of programs.
Since they will link the binary statically (I guess) against Qt they also could have chosen a widget set that is somewhat more widespread in use. If they've used a more common set, they could have used shared libraries. We all know the trouble with statically linked programs, don't we?
Anyway, thanks a lot! Can't wait to have this little gem.
NOM, but I think WM users are a different kind of breed than those environmentalists.
I know for sure that I don't want a preconfigured WM cause this would take half the fun. And regarding how mindboggling easy it is to setup and accustomize that wouldn't really be an issue for distributors.
I had white checkboxes on a white background in the 'Preferences' tab (talk about choice, hah),
it hangs when I try to open the adress panel,
the automatical search function is a bore (you are really expected to type www.slashdot.org again...),
it refused to load Slashdot several times,
it completely hanged the whole system while trying to run a Java app.
So I ended up installing Lynx. Some 40 MB less, but it just works. It doesn't expect the user to be a complete dum-dum, that's why. I don't want apps that insult my intelligence. You expect that from MS apps, because that's the MS way of computing. But it's certainly not UNIX.
Slashdot Mirror
Sorry to dip my little fly in your ointment: www.google.com is running GWS/1.6 on Linux.
Not meant as trolling, just as a small correction of your facts ;-)
Regards
tom
Regards
tom, MandrakeUser.Org
Best wishes for xx00
tom
Percy: I intend to discover, this very afternoon, the secret of alchemy -- the hidden art of turning base things into gold.
Edmund: I see, and the fact that this secret has eluded the most intelligent people since the dawn of time doesn't dampen your spirits at all.
Percy: Oh no; I like a challenge!
[later]
Percy: (rushes out the living room, dirtied) My Lord! Success!
Edmund: What?
Percy: (drags Edmund into the living room) After literally an hour's ceaseless searching, I have succeeded in creating gold. PURE GOLD!
Edmund: Are you sure?
Percy: Yes, My Lord! Behold! (uncovers the top; their faces get bathed in green light)
Edmund: Percy, it's green.
Percy: That's right, My Lord.
Edmund: Yes, Percy, I don't want to be pedantic or anything, but the color of gold is gold -- that's why it's called gold. What you have dis covered, if it has a name, is some green.
Percy: (stupefied; picks up the green) Oh, Edmund, can it be true? that I hold here, in my mortal hand, a nugget of purest green?
Edmund: Indeed you do, Percy, except, of course, it's not only a nugget as it is more of a splat.
Percy: Well, yes, a splat today, but tomorrow, who knows? or dares to dream!
Edmund: So we three alone in all the world can create the finest green at will.
Percy: Thus so! (whispers) I'm not sure about counting in Baldrick, actually.
Edmund: Of course, you know what your great discovery means, don't you, Percy.
Percy: (smiles) Perhaps, My Lord.
Edmund: That you, Percy -- Lord Percy -- are an utter berk!
Best wishes
tom
The 'old' installation tool is still included in Mandrake 7.0...
Best wishes
tom
Best wishes
tom
Best wishes
- USA: 30742
- Germany: 9131
- Canada: 5089
- UK: 4972
- France: 4724
- Brazil: 4509
- Sweden: 3982
- NL: 3273
- Spain: 3262
- Korea: 3123
Runner-ups:Finland: 2899
Australia: 2806
Norway: 2710
Denmark: 2633
Well, I know absolute numbers proof nothing (I mean, look at the /. polls *grin*), but I do find it interesting that Linux seems to be a largely Europaen affair.
Another interesting - IMO - thing to note is that Japan is surprisingly weak represented (some 800 registered users), whereas Korea (South) is very strong (only Asian country in the Top Ten). Anyone ideas why?
Just my 2c
Regards
- Mister Humenberger has filed the trademark 'Linux' for Germany in 1993.
- He agreed to transfer his rights to Linus Torvalds in 1997 after an effortless try to get linux.de to acknowledge this rights. (see URL below)
- You can file a trademark again in Germany. However you will only succeed in defending it if you can proof that you used the mark before the original filing occurred in a commercial context. This seems very unlikely.
So why did they do it? Publicity stunt? Ignorance? I don't know. But their chances are next to none.The article referred to in the /. article has already been much critizised for being inaccurate and sensation-seeking.
Reference: Streit um Linux Warenzeichen beigelegt.
If you want bleeding edge, try cooker, Mandrake's real time development distro!
However, if you encounter bugs on pre-Helios, please send them to Mandrake's bug ml.
Thank you!
IIRC inetd is turned on by default on Redhat. The newbie thinks "Great, Internet, I need that". /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are empty and /etc/inetd.conf has turned on ftp and pop by default.
Trouble is that
I mean, what's the use of all those security updates and fixes if the worst holes are provided as an installation default? And with services like dynIP the problem even gets much worse. In its current form Linux is pure dynamite in the hands of people that have no idea of how to smell the fuse.
The author's proposal of having server and workstation editions will at least work for the sensible portion of new users. The rest will have to learn by error, I am afraid.
God, looks like another zero score posting. Where has my karma gone? kaaaarmaaaa!
Actually they teach Linux in their sysadmin courses (beside their own proprietary Unix, Sinix). And their teachers are *very* Unix biased ;-)
- As a representative of the Linux community, participate in mailing list and newsgroup discussions in a professional manner.
- Refrain from name-calling and use of vulgar language. Consider yourself a member of a virtual corporation with Mr.Torvalds as your Chief Executive Officer. Your words will either enhance or degrade the image the reader has of the Linux community.
- Avoid hyperbole and unsubstantiated claims at all costs. It's unprofessional and will result in unproductive discussions.
- A thoughtful, well-reasoned response to a posting will not only provide insight for your readers, but will also increase their respect for your knowledge and abilities.
- Don't bite if offered flame-bait. Too many threads degenerate into a ``My O/S is better than your O/S'' argument. Let's accurately describe the capabilities of Linux and leave it at that.
- Always remember that if you insult or are disrespectful to someone, their negative experience may be shared with many others. If you do offend someone, please try to make amends.
- Focus on what Linux has to offer. There is no need to bash the competition. Linux is a good, solid product that stands on its own.
- Respect the use of other operating systems. While Linux is a wonderful platform, it does not meet everyone's needs.
- Refer to another product by its proper name. There's nothing to be gained by attempting to ridicule a company or its products by using ``creative spelling''. If we expect respect for Linux, we must respect other products.
- Give credit where credit is due. Linux is just the kernel. Without the efforts of people involved with the GNU project, MIT, Berkeley and others too numerous to mention, the Linux kernel would not be very useful to most people.
- Don't insist that Linux is the only answer for a particular application. Just as the Linux community cherishes the freedom that Linux provides them, Linux only solutions would deprive others of their freedom.
- There will be cases where Linux is not the answer. Be the first to recognize this and offer another solution.
Linux Advocacy mini-HOWTOSo shape up or ship out!
Embarrassed
belbo
Well, we are talking about Amiga, aren't we? No possibility to wrap an even weirder theory around their behaviour...
http://www.userfr iendly.org/cartoons/archives/99aug/19990829.html
Well, that's nothing unusual. Have a look at the w3m browser which also comes with tables (hp is at http://ei5nazha.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/~aito/w3m/eng/ )
Well, why not adopting a copyright that has been especially tailored to such documents: The Open Content Public License?
Apart from the license question I am not in favor of programs using a library that is almost exclusively used by one set of programs.
Since they will link the binary statically (I guess) against Qt they also could have chosen a widget set that is somewhat more widespread in use. If they've used a more common set, they could have used shared libraries. We all know the trouble with statically linked programs, don't we?
Anyway, thanks a lot! Can't wait to have this little gem.
belbo. I support zero score posting.
It was that the source compiled without any warning messages . Can't remember to have seen this before. I already knew then: this is it.
And I compared tops with people who are running KDE or GNOME: that's 2 MB vs. 12 MB... (Better stop here before I start drooling :-)
belbo I support zero score posting.
I know for sure that I don't want a preconfigured WM cause this would take half the fun. And regarding how mindboggling easy it is to setup and accustomize that wouldn't really be an issue for distributors.
"We ship WM preconfigured!"
"(yawn). Uhu. Impressive. (shrug)"
belbo. I support zero score posting
Serious, I don't understand this decision. This logo looks neither professional nor intuitive. Guess these guys have just to often used dselect...
NOM, I am very fond of Debian, but I go with Wilde: 'better loosing a friend than a bonmot'.
belbo. I support zero score posting.
The question was about backup software not hardware. Interesting suggestion, though
Regards
belbo
So I ended up installing Lynx. Some 40 MB less, but it just works. It doesn't expect the user to be a complete dum-dum, that's why.
I don't want apps that insult my intelligence. You expect that from MS apps, because that's the MS way of computing. But it's certainly not UNIX.
belbo