Except for a few people, nobody cares about Mars. Only need to see what the politicos and major decision makers are working on. Also from http://www.projectrho.com/rock...
"The Gobi Desert is about a thousand times as hospitable as Mars and five hundred times cheaper and easier to reach. Nobody ever writes "Gobi Desert Opera" because, well, it's just kind of plonkingly obvious that there's no good reason to go there and live. It's ugly, it's inhospitable and there's no way to make it pay. Mars is just the same, really. We just romanticize it because it's so hard to reach."
A manned mission to Mars has always been 20 years away and been presented like this for past 50 years (like fusion energy power plants are 10 years away which been presented like this for past 60 years). After a half century, maybe a different approach? Sorry I don't see how Orion or Musk's Dragon can reach Mars (supplies, food, machine shops to repair when things break down, radiation, microgravity, etc.). Then we got advocates always promoting their "One legged stool"
http://hopsblog-hop.blogspot.c... for the Next Big Initiative.
Of all the stuff I read, Dennis Wingo in his book Moon Rush discusses real driver should be industrial expansion, "Deals of this size are done all the time, and think what having access to and rights over a billion kilos of platinum would do for your corporate portfolio." Wingo also discusses background of major programs Apollo, SEI, Augustine commissions I and II, and why certain decisions were made (and why many times nothing happened after). http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ...
the U.S. economy was better when we had more wealth distribution, stronger unions, and a growing middle class.
Yes but then there will be complaints "it's socialism!" and protests against such practices (ironically by those working folks who will benefit). Or they will say, "too bad but that's capitalism." Yeah but I think in a capitalist system does not include rich people sending lobbyists to legislators to make laws against the competition or laws that game the system in their favor.
There was a time when tech companies provide training and additional education but then another company will poach them away. Then all the companies decide to poach employees instead of providing expense to give them more training and education. Now it seems instead of expense of educating people in schools, simply poach people from other countries.
more I look into this, illustrates how much countries do all kinds of manipulations instead of "intelligence operations" particularly systematic silencing of dissidents at home and abroad.
I probably could have added more content but re-writing much of its talking points? It also has a lot more material than just different space advocates arguing among themselves. Getting back to Mars Direct, a manned mission to Mars has always been 20 years away and been presented like this for past 50 years (like fusion energy power plants are 10 years away which been presented like this for past 60 years). After a half century, maybe a different approach? Sorry I don't see how Orion or Musk's Dragon can reach Mars (supplies, food, machine shops to repair when things break down, radiation, microgravity, etc.)
At the same time, he's choosing to ignore the entire body of work that Dr. Zubrin (and now, Elon Musk is contributing to) which demonstrates that it is not too hard, nor too far away.
Yes and no. In meantime while "Space advocates have been divided into warring camps, each fighting for their version of a 1 legged stool."
http://hopsblog-hop.blogspot.c...
One story, mildly amusing, I believe extensively discussed here was someone dressed in a gorilla suit and would greet hikers in the back country of a national park. He would greet himself as Bigfoot, welcome people to the national park and ask they not litter, stay on the trails, and not abuse plants and animals in the park. He had a friend take video with a camcorder which uploaded footage to Youtube became very popular. Park service protested and banned him from playing Bigfoot on grounds that he didn't have a film permit or a permit to stage a show on national park (or something like that, leading to lots of/. diatribes about IP, guvmint interference, etc.).
sorry for OT but I could not pass this one up. You can here NORAD air defense command center, their callword is Bigfoot, on these frequencies,
http://home.comcast.net/~kilow...
I actually have heard Bigfoot, NORAD's ATC base giving vectors for what I believe was a KC135, I scan the freq regularly. Not much traffic but occasionally hear something.
An article talked about over the years people make claims they've done some incredible feats mostly unintended. Like someone going too fast on a skateboard off a ledge, board separates from rider, board bounces off a wall, lands on hand railing at same time rider lands on board, which then by chance the angle was just right the rider was able to smoothly land on clear surface and come to a controlled stop. Yeah right, oh wait! A friend got it on the phone and it's gone viral on FB!
OK, so where's the space aliens, Bigfoot, and Nessie?
If you do it for fun, then use whatever you want. If doing it for a job, then it has either been chosen for you by the Project or you select the appropriate language for the task. Of course can have problems if a certain language is better suited but you don't know it and then selected a dud. Probably avoid something that will go out of date soon and nobody will know what it is. For me, ugh I need to learn some of this (been doing html on Notepad since 20th century). My gripe are webpages with tons and tons of script that really don't do much except provide gates for marketeers to blast me with ads and pop-ups. I mean a site that is 2MB of stuff which a 60K html and a few 100K jpgs will do just as good (and download faster). I hate seeing "waiting for aodnqefhgthwe-rhew.googleanalytics.andotherstupidstufftodownload.xml" at bottom of window.
thanks for posting link, I actually RTFA. An interesting mention was,
"What’s more, both Davison and Law say there are a number of other potential places the plastic could be ending up. It could be washing ashore, and a lot of it could be degrading into pieces too small to be detected. Another possibility is that organisms sticking to and growing on the plastic are dragging the junk beneath the ocean’s surface, either suspending it in the water column or sinking it all the way to the sea floor. Microbes may even be eating the stuff."
Once again, we still live with that legacy today. Arguably, one might say it even has led to the modern crisis of credit, inability of people to understand loans and mortgages, etc., because those practical math elements were expunged or downplayed in the new curriculum.
Now we have a new generation of corporate foundations seeking to interfere with education and put their mark on it. I'm sure they'll do a few good things, as all the previous reforms did, but they'll also have some disastrous long-term consequences, as the previous reforms continue to have....
This should be Post of the Month. All this push for math and yet nothing is taught on relevant business math to all except a few that major in the subject.
from the article:
These miscarriages are avoidable. Under the English common law we inherited, a crime requires intent. This protection is disappearing in the U.S. As Mr. Silverglate writes, "Since the New Deal era, Congress has delegated to various administrative agencies the task of writing the regulations," even as "Congress has demonstrated a growing dysfunction in crafting legislation that can in fact be understood." Prosecutors identify defendants to go after instead of finding a law that was broken and figuring out who did it. Expect more such prosecutions as Washington adds regulations.
huh? Germany ends contract with US company like Russia wants to make their own chips instead of buying from US. You mean like uh you know as like um the stuff NSA did is ruining US business in other countries? Golly, that's an astonishing concept.
Yes, it is further away, intense radiation (except under the ice), more difficult but then Mars used to be like that (in some ways still is). But rather sending another rover to Mars with more evidence of water used to be there, bla-bla, etc. Cynthia Phillips of SETI said, "when looking for life, go where the water is." And there is lots more water there than on Mars but we don't know much of what is under all that ice. Mars has interesting geological features (forget sending people there, it's a bridge too far and we can't even send people to the moon). But just imagine a submarine taking pictures and video of the little fishies in the Europa oceans. Don't know if there is any there but that first mission under the ice will be very interesting.
about 10 years ago an article about "Losing History" as result of govt leaders using email. We can look at letters and notes written by Roosevelt, Churchill, and others to see what they were thinking when making major decisions. But with emails that are volatile historians years from now will not be able read the same by Bush, Cheney, and others.
I presume people have modded it funny because they have forgotten Nixon was forced to resign over 18 minutes of missing tape out of 200 hrs of conversation related to the break in at Watergate.
and the picture of Nixon's secretary showing how she accidently pressed a foot switch while talking on a phone opposite desk, and the position she was in (awkward). It looked so hokey this "18 minutes" was obvious conspiracy.
Seeing this article, I immediately remembered the book Innovative Linear Circuits by Jim Williams (by EDN, 1985). Though dated it has lots of interesting techniques (much of it I have forgot, but incentive to re-learn this stuff). Here's something mildly amusing,
A quiz of various circuits (and how to make imperfect components function perfectly together), and ratings of correct answers:
Number: Rating
20-25: Circuit designer
15-20: Electrical engineer
10-15: TTL jockey
5-10: Microprocessor scholar
0-5: Computer programmer
But seriously we can find ourselves in a situation with no space station. Like there is no Shuttle, Orion is decades away, we are depended on Musk to make Dragon2 work. After Apollo there was concern at the time if US would have a manned space program in early 1970s when still debating Shuttle, and it could have been no Shuttle meaning Apollo-Soyuz in 1975 could have been the last time US put people in space. Hear Dale Myers talk about this per MIT OC course in 2005, https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Everyone is spending a lot of time arguing budgets. That's a big chunk of hardware in orbit, c'mon you guys it may not be ideal but it's something.
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Except for a few people, nobody cares about Mars. Only need to see what the politicos and major decision makers are working on. Also from http://www.projectrho.com/rock...
"The Gobi Desert is about a thousand times as hospitable as Mars and five hundred times cheaper and easier to reach. Nobody ever writes "Gobi Desert Opera" because, well, it's just kind of plonkingly obvious that there's no good reason to go there and live. It's ugly, it's inhospitable and there's no way to make it pay. Mars is just the same, really. We just romanticize it because it's so hard to reach."
A manned mission to Mars has always been 20 years away and been presented like this for past 50 years (like fusion energy power plants are 10 years away which been presented like this for past 60 years). After a half century, maybe a different approach? Sorry I don't see how Orion or Musk's Dragon can reach Mars (supplies, food, machine shops to repair when things break down, radiation, microgravity, etc.). Then we got advocates always promoting their "One legged stool" http://hopsblog-hop.blogspot.c... for the Next Big Initiative.
Of all the stuff I read, Dennis Wingo in his book Moon Rush discusses real driver should be industrial expansion, "Deals of this size are done all the time, and think what having access to and rights over a billion kilos of platinum would do for your corporate portfolio." Wingo also discusses background of major programs Apollo, SEI, Augustine commissions I and II, and why certain decisions were made (and why many times nothing happened after). http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ...
the U.S. economy was better when we had more wealth distribution, stronger unions, and a growing middle class.
Yes but then there will be complaints "it's socialism!" and protests against such practices (ironically by those working folks who will benefit). Or they will say, "too bad but that's capitalism." Yeah but I think in a capitalist system does not include rich people sending lobbyists to legislators to make laws against the competition or laws that game the system in their favor.
There was a time when tech companies provide training and additional education but then another company will poach them away. Then all the companies decide to poach employees instead of providing expense to give them more training and education. Now it seems instead of expense of educating people in schools, simply poach people from other countries.
That's my Gripe Of The Month for now.
more I look into this, illustrates how much countries do all kinds of manipulations instead of "intelligence operations" particularly systematic silencing of dissidents at home and abroad.
on how they bungled every mission involving Moose and Squirrel.
I probably could have added more content but re-writing much of its talking points? It also has a lot more material than just different space advocates arguing among themselves. Getting back to Mars Direct, a manned mission to Mars has always been 20 years away and been presented like this for past 50 years (like fusion energy power plants are 10 years away which been presented like this for past 60 years). After a half century, maybe a different approach? Sorry I don't see how Orion or Musk's Dragon can reach Mars (supplies, food, machine shops to repair when things break down, radiation, microgravity, etc.)
At the same time, he's choosing to ignore the entire body of work that Dr. Zubrin (and now, Elon Musk is contributing to) which demonstrates that it is not too hard, nor too far away.
Yes and no. In meantime while "Space advocates have been divided into warring camps, each fighting for their version of a 1 legged stool." http://hopsblog-hop.blogspot.c...
One story, mildly amusing, I believe extensively discussed here was someone dressed in a gorilla suit and would greet hikers in the back country of a national park. He would greet himself as Bigfoot, welcome people to the national park and ask they not litter, stay on the trails, and not abuse plants and animals in the park. He had a friend take video with a camcorder which uploaded footage to Youtube became very popular. Park service protested and banned him from playing Bigfoot on grounds that he didn't have a film permit or a permit to stage a show on national park (or something like that, leading to lots of /. diatribes about IP, guvmint interference, etc.).
sorry for OT but I could not pass this one up. You can here NORAD air defense command center, their callword is Bigfoot, on these frequencies, http://home.comcast.net/~kilow...
I actually have heard Bigfoot, NORAD's ATC base giving vectors for what I believe was a KC135, I scan the freq regularly. Not much traffic but occasionally hear something.
An article talked about over the years people make claims they've done some incredible feats mostly unintended. Like someone going too fast on a skateboard off a ledge, board separates from rider, board bounces off a wall, lands on hand railing at same time rider lands on board, which then by chance the angle was just right the rider was able to smoothly land on clear surface and come to a controlled stop. Yeah right, oh wait! A friend got it on the phone and it's gone viral on FB!
OK, so where's the space aliens, Bigfoot, and Nessie?
If you do it for fun, then use whatever you want. If doing it for a job, then it has either been chosen for you by the Project or you select the appropriate language for the task. Of course can have problems if a certain language is better suited but you don't know it and then selected a dud. Probably avoid something that will go out of date soon and nobody will know what it is. For me, ugh I need to learn some of this (been doing html on Notepad since 20th century). My gripe are webpages with tons and tons of script that really don't do much except provide gates for marketeers to blast me with ads and pop-ups. I mean a site that is 2MB of stuff which a 60K html and a few 100K jpgs will do just as good (and download faster). I hate seeing "waiting for aodnqefhgthwe-rhew.googleanalytics.andotherstupidstufftodownload.xml" at bottom of window.
thanks for posting link, I actually RTFA. An interesting mention was,
"What’s more, both Davison and Law say there are a number of other potential places the plastic could be ending up. It could be washing ashore, and a lot of it could be degrading into pieces too small to be detected. Another possibility is that organisms sticking to and growing on the plastic are dragging the junk beneath the ocean’s surface, either suspending it in the water column or sinking it all the way to the sea floor. Microbes may even be eating the stuff."
Once again, we still live with that legacy today. Arguably, one might say it even has led to the modern crisis of credit, inability of people to understand loans and mortgages, etc., because those practical math elements were expunged or downplayed in the new curriculum.
Now we have a new generation of corporate foundations seeking to interfere with education and put their mark on it. I'm sure they'll do a few good things, as all the previous reforms did, but they'll also have some disastrous long-term consequences, as the previous reforms continue to have....
This should be Post of the Month. All this push for math and yet nothing is taught on relevant business math to all except a few that major in the subject.
you have to buy the copyrighted laws from a private company to be able to know the law.
damn, another "boost" for Three Felonies A Day.
from the article:
These miscarriages are avoidable. Under the English common law we inherited, a crime requires intent. This protection is disappearing in the U.S. As Mr. Silverglate writes, "Since the New Deal era, Congress has delegated to various administrative agencies the task of writing the regulations," even as "Congress has demonstrated a growing dysfunction in crafting legislation that can in fact be understood." Prosecutors identify defendants to go after instead of finding a law that was broken and figuring out who did it. Expect more such prosecutions as Washington adds regulations.
huh? Germany ends contract with US company like Russia wants to make their own chips instead of buying from US. You mean like uh you know as like um the stuff NSA did is ruining US business in other countries? Golly, that's an astonishing concept.
In ways it is a tragedy. There's a violence ridden ghetto right between two of most wealthiest companies Facebook and Google.
I was thinking same thing. I've never considered one but hey, maybe just like in the comic series (and complete with taglines "2-way wrist TV").
I've been living quite well on <$30k.
mom doesn't charge rent for the basement?
It's been said Capitalism is where man exploits man. Communism it's the other way around.
Yes, it is further away, intense radiation (except under the ice), more difficult but then Mars used to be like that (in some ways still is). But rather sending another rover to Mars with more evidence of water used to be there, bla-bla, etc. Cynthia Phillips of SETI said, "when looking for life, go where the water is." And there is lots more water there than on Mars but we don't know much of what is under all that ice. Mars has interesting geological features (forget sending people there, it's a bridge too far and we can't even send people to the moon). But just imagine a submarine taking pictures and video of the little fishies in the Europa oceans. Don't know if there is any there but that first mission under the ice will be very interesting.
can't wait for those whining on the forums, "damn Americans stealing jobs from hard working people."
about 10 years ago an article about "Losing History" as result of govt leaders using email. We can look at letters and notes written by Roosevelt, Churchill, and others to see what they were thinking when making major decisions. But with emails that are volatile historians years from now will not be able read the same by Bush, Cheney, and others.
I presume people have modded it funny because they have forgotten Nixon was forced to resign over 18 minutes of missing tape out of 200 hrs of conversation related to the break in at Watergate.
and the picture of Nixon's secretary showing how she accidently pressed a foot switch while talking on a phone opposite desk, and the position she was in (awkward). It looked so hokey this "18 minutes" was obvious conspiracy.
Seeing this article, I immediately remembered the book Innovative Linear Circuits by Jim Williams (by EDN, 1985). Though dated it has lots of interesting techniques (much of it I have forgot, but incentive to re-learn this stuff). Here's something mildly amusing,
A quiz of various circuits (and how to make imperfect components function perfectly together), and ratings of correct answers:
Number: Rating
20-25: Circuit designer
15-20: Electrical engineer
10-15: TTL jockey
5-10: Microprocessor scholar
0-5: Computer programmer
before we have a trampoline gap!
But seriously we can find ourselves in a situation with no space station. Like there is no Shuttle, Orion is decades away, we are depended on Musk to make Dragon2 work. After Apollo there was concern at the time if US would have a manned space program in early 1970s when still debating Shuttle, and it could have been no Shuttle meaning Apollo-Soyuz in 1975 could have been the last time US put people in space. Hear Dale Myers talk about this per MIT OC course in 2005, https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Everyone is spending a lot of time arguing budgets. That's a big chunk of hardware in orbit, c'mon you guys it may not be ideal but it's something.