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An anonymous reader writes: I don't wear a watch. I never have. So, to me, the push for smart watches has always been a non-starter. But I was discussing with friends some of the features of Android Wear that Google demonstrated at the I/O conference today, and it got me wondering: what set of features would be required for a smartwatch to become viable? Obviously, this is different for everybody — millions of people wear regular watches even though they could easily pull out their phone and check the time there. Any smartwatch can also tell time, but it has advantages (apps that do other things), and disadvantages (needs charging). Clearly, there are some functions for which it's useful to have an object strapped to your wrist, even if that function could be served by the device in your pocket. Telling time is one, and lots of people use sundry fitness doo-dads to measure exercise. It makes sense to me that checking the weather forecast would fall into this category, and perhaps checking notifications. (Conversely, other functions do not translate at all, like taking photos or playing games.) Thus, two questions: if you already wear a watch, what would it take for a smartwatch to replace it? If you don't wear a watch, what features would motivate you to get one?

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  1. Cool solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I suspect much like current watches, this will mostly fill a cosmetic need vice a practical one. Sure, having a wristwatch is handy in some situations, but I wear my skeleton because I’m a geek and I think seeing all those gears doing their thing is badass. Despite being made obsolete by digital technology, a well made mechanical wristwatch is still a marvel of technology.

    It’s a toy and a fashion statement. Some people will have fun with it, a lot of people will think it’s stupid, a handful of people will actually find it fills a legitimate need they had but lets not try to invent reasons we need one.

    This whole thing reminds me of the home automation craze (which google appears to be trying to bring back). It sounds really neat and has some serious gee-wiz appeal to it. I’ll admit back in the day I bought into it (and went with x10... a system I wouldn’t wish on an enemy) but you very quickly realize that after lights, temperature, and maybe the coffeepot, there are very few practical applications. Sure some people will go on about how their curtains automatically close when they flush the toilet, but it was mostly a toy for geeks.

    Personally I won’t likely buy one, but I’m not going to berate someone who does.

    Thanks for reading and have a happy Wednesday :)

    1. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      While I'm not entirely sure I'm the market for these, they can fit a useful niche -- not keeping your phone on the table in front of you all the time, opening the screen for notifications.

      I certainly advocate just getting fewer notifications [IDNGAF that you posted a new picture of your lunch to twittergram], but there are notifications that I want, and that I'd like to see without "risking" my phone out constantly. Also, with things like Google Now getting more and more useful (if you buy into the Google ecosystem), if my watch can support it, it'd be worth considering.

      I just want to keep my phone in my pocket or bag.

    2. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is dead on. I have a rather nice and somewhat expensive watch. Yes, it is nice to be able to check the time riding my motorcycle, or to know how long I have been scuba diving. And yes the new watches can do that. But I have had my watch for 14 years, and it is still a nice and stylish piece of jewelry. I also have a very nice watch I inherited that is significantly older. Performs a time keeping function, but is mostly jewelry. But I would have a hard time investing a few grand in a watch that would be obsolete in 2 years, and would need a new battery (or charging) every night. So for me, the answer is "It ain't happening."

    3. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by cliffjumper222 · · Score: 1
      > But I would have a hard time investing a few grand in a watch

      Wow, a few grand? These watches will be a couple of ton, maybe a monkey max.

    4. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by sl149q · · Score: 1

      When I can get it as an electronic tattoo. No charging and don't need to remember to put it on or take it off.

    5. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 2

      I think you are being a little closed/small minded about this. You are limiting the domain to historical uses of watches when these are capable of far more.

      In my opinion a technology's true value (after the hype cycle has stabilised) is defined by its utility, cosmetic appeal and price. (there are probably others but they are less important)

      You have artificially limited it to one of those (appeal) and I think this is unfair - especially considering most people no longer wear watches.
      Having said that I personally stopped wearing a watch because I realised I had my phone on me 24/7 and it was no longer necessary. If my watch meant I no longer needed my phone on my person (say in my bag or car instead) this would be a big cosmetic bonus in my opinion. A watch on the wrist is far more appealing than having a bulge in your pocket. (that's what she said?)
      It should be noted that utility and cosmetic appeal are in direct conflict in this product. The smaller and nice looking the watch, the less utility it is likely to have and vice versa.

      Price is a big turn off at the moment. They are FAR too expensive for what they are. For elitists this may increase appeal but for most this will not. One assumes that like most things this will decrease sharply in time so this will improve over time.

      My opinion is that utility will make or break these.
      For example: if I can get to a point where all I need available is the watch and perhaps a bluetooth headset then they have a very solid product IMHO.
      My phone (I assume the watch cannot replace these entirely) can be in my bag or car or tucked away. A glance at my watch (even when driving) tells me if I have msgs, who is calling, etc without having to take my phone out. Those annoying car mounts become unnecessary except for GPS.
      And that is just core phone utility without going into the other more niche features or the addition future tech.

      I am not saying they are a guaranteed success but I AM saying that they could be the reason people start wearing watches in the future again. :)

    6. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

      Much more practical: earpiece that gives you your notifications privately, passes through audio outside the earpiece (transparent, sonically speaking.)

      No display, only a mike and a tiny sound transducer, so it can run off minimal power. Right there in your ear canal too, so temperature, pulse, and motion sensors will work great. Add my brilliant idea for a solar skullcap and, viola! Nerdgasm.

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    7. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by fractoid · · Score: 1

      OC Tattoos are gonna be awesome when they happen.

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    8. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Look at the price for a nice watch today, like a Tag or Longines, not to mention Rolex. And my Tag has been worn daily for 14 years and still looks good. Why would I replace it for cheap looking trash? But why would I invest in something that can not last?

    9. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by peragrin · · Score: 1

      The thing is a smart watch means you have to have your phone on you in order to function. In order to get it's updates it has to connect through your phone.

      Now if we could build a smart watch with all phone functionality into it, and have a 48 hour battery life that would be something. Now all smart watches are at best is a secondary screen for your smart phone who can show 20 characters at a time.

      As the another poster said I would rather have a bluetooth earring. that would do text to voice for messages to me. I say earring I have always thought it would be cool to have a chinese dragon clipped to my ear whose tail wrapped around and into the ear canal for the speaker.

         

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    10. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by m00sh · · Score: 1

      It’s a toy and a fashion statement. Some people will have fun with it, a lot of people will think it’s stupid, a handful of people will actually find it fills a legitimate need they had but lets not try to invent reasons we need one.

      It is an a great tool for running. It can show your mileage, pace, heart rate at a glance - though I admit the posture of looking at the watch while running does put some dangers. It is amazing to have instantaneous feedback when you're training for a race. The phone can do it as well but its more difficult to carry and view.

      It is also great as a pedometer and activity, sleep tracker. You can keep records going back years of number of steps, sleep patterns and other biometric data without actually having to think a lot about it.

      I bought mine just for running and now I wear it all the time.

    11. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Because it plays MP3s and tells you the weather?

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    12. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I don't think there's much doubt that a watch that's sufficiently advanced in features will find a niche - it feels like not very long ago that watches did compete on functionality. The 1980s was full of cheap calculator watches and expensive chronometer/time-in-three-time-zones fifty-different-dials type watches. And they sold for a while.

      Me though... I'd actually wear a watch if they weren't uncomfortable. I love the things, especially mechanical watches, so it's not the feature set I find a problem.

      About the only thing that would make me wear one despite the discomfort would be in-built teleportation. That would be the killer app. I doubt Google is working on that though.

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    13. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by tlhIngan · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well, they ARE a solution looking for a problem. Or rather, a problem that's strictly manufactured by marketing.

      See, the problem is, everyone "wants" a bigger screen. They're great for watching movies and playing games. But they're piss-poor at well, communicating. So the user buys this huge phablet, then enjoys it doing movies and games. But then they get around to tweeting and texting and calling, and realize that the damn phone is useless! They can't really hang it off their belt because it's too big and unwieldy, it's a solid slab in their pocket, so the phone migrates to less and less convenient locations.

      Eventually, it migrates to a spot where it's not easy to get to. For a lady, that's their purse. For a man, it's one of those pockets that can tolerate the flatness without being too uncomfortable.

      Of course, now you have a problem because the phone isn't readily available and they want to text and it's a huge pain because they text, and it's too big for their hands, so they have to use two hands to hold it.

      Or they get a text, dig it out and find it was completely useless.

      So the solution? A smartwatch! Because you bought an ill-sized phone that really is only good for a couple of things, and really, really lousy at everything else you use it for, you buy a smartwatch. Don't want to dig the phone out of your pocket or purse to read that text (because a lot of people have no-mo-phone-phobia (the real name is very close to that), the fear of missing out anything that happens on their phone). What's a person to do? Enter the smartwatch so you can glance at the text, reply, all without having to haul that massive slab out from god-knows-where.

      Of course, some use it to cheat their "no phone" rule at some gatherings where the phones are placed on the table and the first guy to check it gets to pay the bill.

      And you know what? I bet Apple is doing the same thing - they're going to introduce the 5.5" iPhone 6, and sell it with the iWatch because user testing has shown that the big phone is completely hard to hold, carry and use for texting and calling and is dumped in the deepest reaches of some pocket.

      (Of course, Apple will probably do it right with a "leading" battery life of a week. But still, my point remains - thanks to marketing, everyone wants big screen phones despite their complete impracticality. Big screen is beautiful. Big screen is also PITA to use.)

      Hell, you can't even buy half decent Androids that don't compromise on something with a smaller, more usable screen.

    14. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 1

      I mentioned in my post that I assumed this was so and that a bluetooth ear piece would be required.

    15. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I certainly HOPE Apple is working on a watch project. It might finally tug them under. Does Tim Cook have a current resume?

      (and can we have the source code for iOS when you're done with it, Apple?)

    16. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THis is typical over hyped tech, companies will blow this up to get yuppies to buy them, then they'll come out with something else, essentially It amounts to a scam.
      But seeing how people are suckers to buy anything and everything that they think makes them hip to the times, or a douche, the cycle of fashionable tech will keep rolling out. No different then the latest clothing trend.

      I do not see the advantage in wearing one. Yes you can load it with a bunch of apps, and use it in a variety of ways. But companies will push something else onto the public to make a quick buck. And I am sure there will be numerous privacy concerns as any information that the watch OS/Apps use will collect detailed information on you.

      Having said that if people want to wear them I'm not going to be a complete ass and ridicule them.

    17. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, because you can't just look outside the window to see what the weather is like. As for listening to music, I think most modern cellphones are able to play mp3's.

    18. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      The kind of person who would benefit from this kind of tech carries a tablet in a jacket pocket or a bag, and has bluetooth headphones for their music. The watch then becomes a remote control device, or a means to check notifications on the tablet without removing it from where it rests.

      Having bought a tablet a few months ago, I can see the appeal.

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    19. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      I have a smartwatch - motoactv. But I don't usually wear it (only when I am out hiking in the mountains), it is strapped to my bicycle handlebar instead.

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    20. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Google Now is supposed to be the big killer app. Having used it on phones I'd say it may well be. Information you want is just there, like traffic on the route home as you are getting up from your desk at 5PM, or what desk you need to make your way to as you walk into the airport.

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    21. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect much like current watches, this will mostly fill a cosmetic need vice a practical one.

      I agree, I wear a watch because it is more convenient to glance at my wrist than haul out the cell phone to see what time it is. A simple timepiece is all I need. I certainly don't want or need yet another electronic device designed from the ground up to spy on me and provide Google with yet another screen to serve ads up on. I think I'll give "smart" watches a pass.

    22. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the bright side, your time will be right twice a day (unless you go with the digital-kind of font and a 24h notation)

    23. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      viola! Nerdgasm.

      Nerds get off on stringed musical instruments?

      Think "vo-ee-la" when spelling the term you were trying to use.

    24. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by carnivore302 · · Score: 1

      another watch might do that, but it will not look as good as a rolex.

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    25. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by Ultra64 · · Score: 1

      "They can't really hang it off their belt because it's too big and unwieldy, it's a solid slab in their pocket, so the phone migrates to less and less convenient locations."

      I wonder how many people who say this have actually used one of the larger screens.

      My Galaxy note 3 is huge compared to my old iphone, but fits in my pocket perfectly comfortably.

    26. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by warpuck · · Score: 0

      My watch spends months in the drawer now that I am retired.

    27. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      I'm a musician. I meant exactly what I said, you Gallophile. Also, À goupil endormi rien ne tombe en la gueule.

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    28. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      What if we add calculator functionality? Would that sway you? We could even disguise it as a 1980s calculator watch, so it looks all retro.

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    29. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      As a former violist, I heartily endorse your comment.

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    30. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well now I know why you get on my damned nerves so much. You're a goddamned frenchie! Your nonsensical posts now make sense. They're still wrong, but they make sense.

    31. Re:Cool solution looking for a problem by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Non, monsieur. Just able to use more than just one language. Sadly, slashdot, still stuck in the non-unicode dark ages, can't handle my favorites.

      But I'll settle for irritating you in English. m'kay? :)

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  2. Only if... by scotts13 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I could make phone calls on it without carrying a separate phone. Beyond that and telling time, I can't think of any other use for a screen I'd want to wear on my wrist.

    1. Re:Only if... by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing, it should be its own phone. But then it isn't an accessory but a standalone smart phone that you wear on your wrist. But in addition to calls and time, navigation and sports apps would be a great addition. GPS readouts, music player interface, etc.

      Taking my phone with me on a bike ride is annoying as I want to travel as light as possible. I only take a bit of cash, drivers license (for id) and phone. It would be nice If I can glance at my watch and see that I have ridden for x miles, current speed, weather and trip time. I don't need maps or graphics. Same would go for distance sports/activities in addition to a pedometer (accelerometers). I can leave my phone in the little pouch on my bike frame and keep it off the handlebars or pocket. It should also be waterproof so I don't care if I get caught in a downpour.

    2. Re:Only if... by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      And you think your battery life is bad now...

    3. Re:Only if... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I could make phone calls on it without carrying a separate phone. Beyond that and telling time, I can't think of any other use for a screen I'd want to wear on my wrist.

      I basically agree. Here is how I see it: the thing on your wrist should do things that make sense for something on your wrist to do.

      Making telephone calls is one. Without any other device necessary. Fitness and sleep tracking are also obvious functions.

      But for just about everything else, you can have a tablet. Tether it to your phone (watch) via Bluetooth, or whatever.

      But the point is, I think current "smartwatch" efforts have it backward. Rather then trying to put everything on your watch, powered by your telephone, put the phone and health apps ONLY on your watch, then tether your tablet to that.

      Best of both worlds, rather than the worst.

    4. Re:Only if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Pebble will do everything that have listed. but you do still need the phone cause the phone is doing all the heavy lifting. I also last ~5days on a charge, and is waterproof enough that i swim with it.

    5. Re:Only if... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "Making telephone calls is one. "
      based on what?

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    6. Re:Only if... by marcosdumay · · Score: 2

      How would a telephone call work on a watch? One can put it near either the mouth or a ear, not both, and in any of those situations, it's quite an unconfortable position.

    7. Re:Only if... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      Dick Tracy comics?

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    8. Re:Only if... by fisted · · Score: 2

      It's got a wireless link to Google Glass, you insensitive clod

    9. Re:Only if... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      How would a telephone call work on a watch? One can put it near either the mouth or a ear, not both, and in any of those situations, it's quite an unconfortable position.

      Like people have traditionally used communication devices where the talkers are polite and don't interrupt each other?

      The word "over" also comes to mind...

    10. Re:Only if... by ewibble · · Score: 0

      You could put it near your ear, if the mic is sensitive enough it should pick up your voice.

      I think this is a better option than having a louder speaker, because of privacy.

      I don't see how your ear is much different from the current position, if you put the speaker on the strap

    11. Re:Only if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Phone calls... Hmm... Are you going to tether it to a Bluetooth headset or are you going to go all Dick Tracy and hold your wrist to you head in various ways? Or are you going to merely bother the crap out of your neighbors by putting the thing on speaker and yelling at it?

    12. Re:Only if... by MozeeToby · · Score: 2

      I can't imagine using it for voice calls.... that would just feel... ridiculous.

      For what it's worth, my possible uses would be more in line with viewing incoming texts, messages, and email (sender and subject only). Maybe it's not really that much of a hassle to pull out your phone when it buzzes; still it would still be a bit more handy just to glance at your wrist.

      Another good use I could see would be Google Wallet, scan and pin credit card transactions. Put a thumb print scanner right on the face to activate that feature and call it good so long as you can wipe the data remotely and it's stored/sent properly.

    13. Re:Only if... by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 1

      It will work by making the wearer look like a schizophrenic who's off his meds. Here's the patent drawing: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Dt2wrr.jpg

    14. Re:Only if... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      I would rather have a bluetooth stylus with speaker and mic that recharges in its parking slot between uses. It would enable you to use your phone more effectively whilst making a call. A stylus is really much better than you finger for making inputs on a smart phone, you only have a relatively thin 'pen' obscuring you screen, something you are used to when writing on paper, rather than your whole hand. It could pop up and illuminate in various colours for various notifications. Add in flash ram and you could transfer bulk data much more quickly from one phone to another, say a large home movie in seconds. So smart stylus far more useful than smart watch. So new shape required for stylus, cylindrical at one end for comfortable holding and battery and flattened at the other end for say micro USB connection and flash ram and blue tooth circuitry.

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    15. Re:Only if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same with Google Glass. You can't do anything fun with it but it's great if you want Facebook to be quite literally In Your Face all day.

      Shame that these cool ideas are hindered by a lack of a single fun thing you can do with them that you can't already do.

    16. Re:Only if... by jafac · · Score: 1

      With the galaxy gear 2, it's just a speakerphone (bluetooth). So it doesn't really matter how you hold it. If it's a situation where I can't speakerphone, I just pull out my actual phone.

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    17. Re:Only if... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "Making telephone calls is one. "
      based on what?

      Based on simple convenience and peoples' time-proven behavior.

      The way it is now, you have a watch telling you that you have an incoming call, so then you have to dig out your phone, or at least have your phone with you so you can answer the call with your watch. And if you didn't dig the damned phone out of your pack or your purse on time, you still missed the damn call, didn't you? "Smart" watch or not.

      Why? Why force you to have TWO devices when you only need one for those things?

      People don't need a tablet all the time. They don't need games all the time. They do (often) need a watch, and a phone. And these days, the fitness trackers might also be called a legitimate thing you want on your arm all the time.

      So... it's simple logic. Put the things you want to have on you all the time on your wrist, and make the other things optional. Instead of the ass-backwards way it is now.

      The way it is now, you have to have BOTH devices on you at all times for the one to be useful at all. That's dumb. Put the essential, all-the-time-carry things in the watch (And hey! Look! They fit!) and leave the rest to the optional thing... a decent tablet.

      Tablet is all fine by itself, unless you need wi-fi or 3g-4g. That's what the watch does. Watch is also all fine by itself, and if you want to take an incoming call, it's there. Even if you forgot your tablet in Trenton.

    18. Re:Only if... by sir-gold · · Score: 1

      And bluetooth earpieces are any better? At least it's clear he is talking into the watch, and not just staring off into space talking to the wall

    19. Re:Only if... by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and I agree that way round would be awesome, but these devices don't run on magic. If you want that sort of core functionality on your wrist then you are talking about a large heavy device to hold enough battery to make sense. Cellphone functionality is power hungry, and that's the thing the watch doesn't have.

    20. Re:Only if... by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

      I could make phone calls on it without carrying a separate phone. Beyond that and telling time, I can't think of any other use for a screen I'd want to wear on my wrist.

      My first thought in response to the question was, "never".

      But if a smartwatch was a phone replacement instead of just a remote control for something that is generally not out of reach, I might consider it.

      Of course, I was never a big fan of wrist watches. I could never get comfortable with one. I prefer pocket watches. So I would buy a pocket smart watch. And being a pocket watch, it would be a little bigger than a wrist watch, with a larger screen.

      Oh wait! I already have that. It's called, "my phone."

      So never. My answer is never.

    21. Re:Only if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if it allows me to fly. And breathe underwater. And time travel....

    22. Re:Only if... by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      I'm growing weary of the "smartphone" - yes, it is very nice to have. But I look at my life and being mobile. Personally a smaller phone would be better - my phone is not my computer.

      I'm reminded of the Dilbert where he's surfing the web with one eye on his smartwatch, "h..t..t..p...://w...w...w..."

      My watch tells me the time. Sure I could fish around in my pockets and pull out the phone, turn it on, then put it back in my pocket. Or glance at my wrist - done. Although I don't really need to know the time - guessing tends to be good enough. A quick glance is important.

      Hence - what is a wearable for me: My watch is jewlery/dressy, waterproof, shockproof, multiple years between charges...and above all cheap. If I smash it - I'll buy a new one. It is small, doesn't weigh much, and is fast & good at doing it's main function.

      I've wished that my phone could come apart into a smaller piece. Reading SMS ("hi - we're running late"), Weather alerts, and phone call (emergency), and a few other basic functions when I'm out hiking/biking etc. Having a hunk of aluminum and glass in my pocket is not inconvenient (and some want a bigger phone?!)

      Therefore the mobile watch sounds good. It must have week of battery - I can't be tied to a power cord, esp when traveling. Waterproof, show the time, weather alerts (the only news that really matters), and since it is a sensor - measure some data to help monitor daily goals for exercise. And above all - needs to look nice, and not be a piece of black rubber.

      Although being able to take a photo and post to {insert social media of week} could be fun.

    23. Re:Only if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Recording - memos to yourself, or conversations with third parties.
      Weather forecasting and emergency alerts.
      Navigation.
      Alerts, to be triggered at preset times or when your location matches a preset place.
      Emergency flashlight. ...

      Really, I have no difficulty imagining apps I'd like to have on a smartwatch, if it was as powerful as a phone.

    24. Re:Only if... by funky_vibes · · Score: 1

      You're of course correct.
      But if you look at the development of phone radios.. you'll see that the handsets are getting so over the top ridiculously complex, with like 30 different frequency bands, MIMO and at least 5 topologically different radio technologies. They need those 4 core CPUs in "smart" phones just to handle radio comms.
      Just try fitting all those antennas and other crap inside a watch.

    25. Re:Only if... by q4Fry · · Score: 1
      It's worst when they're alone with you in an elevator.

      Sure. Glare at me when I answer your questions. It's not like you could have been talking to anyone else... oh. You have a dongle. Well, you should at least be used to this by now.

  3. Just.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOTO 360

  4. Acceptable battery life by carlhaagen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Android-based things we've seen so far need to be recharged at the very least once a day. I can't even stand the thought of owning a smartphone model that requires recharging every day.

    1. Re:Acceptable battery life by RabidReindeer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Android-based things we've seen so far need to be recharged at the very least once a day. I can't even stand the thought of owning a smartphone model that requires recharging every day.

      Back when I wore a watch, I had a Casio that was supposed to be "solar-assisted". It was so well assisted that I think I only used 1 set of batteries in 10 years. So definitely I would resent having to rush back to the power well daily or even more often.

      Also, I don't want to wear a 5-pound brick with a 21-inch bezel on my scrawny little wrist. When I want a big screen, I'll find a device that has one.

    2. Re:Acceptable battery life by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

      I currently wear a Citizen Eco-Drive watch. I think I bought it 10 years ago. The watch face is a solar panel that charges itself when it's exposed to light. The watch also has a perpetual calendar (don't have to set the date), it has stop watch and chronograph functionality and it looks like jewelry.

      But the two single most important features for me were the never having to change the battery and the perpetual calendar (never having to set the date, even on leap years). I just shake my head at this "smart" watches, I'd go insane if I had to charge the watch every day and a bit of rain could ruin it.

    3. Re:Acceptable battery life by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      I can't even stand the thought of owning a smartphone model that requires recharging every day.

      What's so hard about plugging it in before you go to sleep at night?

    4. Re:Acceptable battery life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a Pebble watch that lasts about 7 days between charges. It does what I want: shows me texts/emails/who's calling without taking my phone out of my pocket, vibrates when I get these notifications, and is discrete. Works great for me

    5. Re:Acceptable battery life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing, but every time I roll over I yank the plug out. The only time I take my watch off is to shower, and that's not long enough to charge it.

      If I took it off every day to plug it in, then I'd be leaving the house without my watch far too often.

    6. Re:Acceptable battery life by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      What's so hard about plugging it in before you go to sleep at night?

      Oh, nothing. The problem comes when you roll over, and either yank the charger onto the floor, setting your home on fire, or you tear your rotator cuff when the cord gets tangled up with the Hitachi Magic Wand cord and the MW is stuck firmly into its easy-access spot in the headboard.

      Wait... you aren't thinking of taking this off every night and putting it back on every morning, are you? Cuz *that* isn't going to fly.

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    7. Re:Acceptable battery life by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Plugging it in? I set an alarm on it and drop it on the wireless charging pad next to my bed.

    8. Re:Acceptable battery life by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Are you serious?

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    9. Re:Acceptable battery life by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 2

      They are getting better. The Pebble is waterproof (5ATM) and runs for almost a week on a charge.

    10. Re:Acceptable battery life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sad when the insightful thing said on slashdot is simply a troll and/or information from someone who clearly isn't technical.

      My Samsung GT7000 lasted about 3 days out-of-the-box. With Cyanogenmod that approaches a week.

      My wife's identical phone that is loaded with Facebook, Skype, Instagram and a hundred random slots games, THAT needs charging every day.

    11. Re:Acceptable battery life by Bazman · · Score: 1

      It means you have to take a charger with you if there's any chance you might not be spending the night in your own bed when you go out... Of course that won't happen because you're wearing a nerdy watch.

    12. Re:Acceptable battery life by smee · · Score: 1

      I have been wearing a kinetic Seiko Premier for the last 10 years and I totally love the idea of the spring, gears and an eccentric weight working in harmony to make a beautiful, functional, piece of jewelry.

      The other big selling point for me was that changing a watch battery requires opening the seal and, unless the work is done by the manufacturer, your water-resistance guarantee just went out the window. With a kinetic, there's no reason to open the case, so my watch is as water-resistant today as it was a decade ago.

      So, I've really no interest in owning a smart watch.

    13. Re:Acceptable battery life by sir-gold · · Score: 1

      Even a regular non-solar LCD watch should get 5 years out of a single battery

    14. Re:Acceptable battery life by evanh · · Score: 1

      Yeah, for a rechargeable I think I'd be okay with as little as six months per recharge.

    15. Re:Acceptable battery life by carlhaagen · · Score: 1

      I'm happy for you. My iOS phone lasts 5-6 days as well.

    16. Re:Acceptable battery life by carlhaagen · · Score: 1

      There's nothing hard about it at all. I just don't like being at the mercy of a power socket every single day. A device that requires recharging once or more per day isn't a mobile device, it's IMMOBILE. You can't leave civilization (read: trekking, outdoors etc.) with a device like that and you can't rely on it in situations where you leave home for a day without having to carry a charger with you as well.

    17. Re:Acceptable battery life by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Surely you have to take the watch off some times, like when you sleep, right? So if it were wirelessly charged, or even if you had to attach a cable, is it really that bad? Seems like a worthwhile trade off (2 seconds/day extra work) if the functionality is useful to you.

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    18. Re:Acceptable battery life by agentgonzo · · Score: 1

      Taking it off your wrist and plugging it in may not take more than about 30s, but it's a hassle that you should be able to live without. Nothing's hard about plugging it in, but the point of technology is to make things *easier* for you, rather than harder. It's not hard, but why should you have to do it?

      My car has automatic wipers that turn on when it starts raining. Same for the headlights when it goes dark. It's not *hard* for me to flick a stalk with my fingers to turn them on/off, but technology working to save me effort and make my life a bit easier. At the moment I don't have to plug my watch in - having to do extra steps I didn't have to before is a step backwards.

    19. Re:Acceptable battery life by countach · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because it is e-paper like a kindle. Which is fine for some things, but not others.

    20. Re:Acceptable battery life by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      If I have to attach a cable it's not waterproof. If it uses enough energy that it must be charged everyday (my current watch can go 6 months or so without exposure to a single source of light) the battery is unlikely to last much more than a couple years meaning the whole battery replacement thing is back. I want watch that will not require a single battery swap in it's lifetime (this is the single most expensive part of watch ownership and replacing the battery always destroys the water resistance unless all the seals are replaced with the battery), will last at least a decade, is waterproof (my preference is for at least 100m but I could tolerate as little as 20m), it must keep time, have a perpetual calendar and look like jewelry, have an adjustable, removable and replaceable band that's interchangeable with standard bands used in the watch industry, it needs at least one local time setting so I don't have to reset the clock when traveling and a stopwatch function would be nice though not required and I'd prefer a sapphire crystal for the face.

      I've got all of that in my current watch except for the sapphire so the face has a few scratches on it. But Citizen was smart enough to put a raised metal edge around the face so it's less prone to being scratched.

    21. Re:Acceptable battery life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't even stand the thought of owning a smartphone model that requires recharging every day.

      What's so hard about plugging it in before you go to sleep at night?

      Camping; some of us hike and then camp in tents, not in motor vehicles.

      There are other situation where you don't have electricity (or a charger) nearby.

    22. Re:Acceptable battery life by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      If I have to attach a cable it's not waterproof.

      Samsung and Sony already make waterproof phones that have USB.

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    23. Re:Acceptable battery life by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      From what I seen the only thing they claim is splash proof ratings like IP66 (even if their marketing shows dunking in water) which only account for incidental water and can't be in direct rain for extended periods of time. There is a significant difference between splash proof and rated to 100m underwater. Heck there is a significant difference between splash proof and 1 foot underwater. Any depth of water over a few inches requires heavily secured and reinforced rubber seals (typically under pounds of pressure) to ensure water can't penetrate. And frankly I don't see any way you could do that unless you had a watertight pigtail hanging off.

      As I said this and battery life are the most significant issues for me because they are tied together. When you replace the battery on a watch with a waterproof to depth watch you MUST replace all the seals or you can't guarantee water resistance. Even though the coin battery powering a standard phone can be had for about $10, you've got to remove the seals, clean the seats and put new seals in. If you have a jeweler (where 90% of watches are sold and often the only qualified people to do the work) do this you can often end up paying anywhere from $50 to $100 to have this done right. On an inexpensive watch this could be more than a new watch costs, and even on a moderately priced consumer watch (such as mine) it's 1/4 of the value. Only with high end multi-thousand dollar watches is this even a small percentage of the price. And though you can probably buy the seals these days on the internet back even 10 years ago the only place you could even get them was from an authorized dealer for the brand which was pretty much a Jeweler and 90% of them would refuse to sell just the seals to you.

    24. Re:Acceptable battery life by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      That's great and everything, but I (and the poster I was responding to) were both referring to plugging in an android phone. Presumably you already take your phone out of your pocket before going to bed, so I don't see how that's an extra step unless you're in the habit of wearing your phone on your wrist.

      Also, I'd find it more annoying to have to charge my phone every other night. It's a lot easier to have something as a routine you do every day at the same time, rather than to try and remember to do something on only odd days.

    25. Re:Acceptable battery life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you misunderstood the post you replied to, if your comment was only in reference to the smartphone and not the watch.

    26. Re:Acceptable battery life by Xaedalus · · Score: 1

      Come on, there's a better place for the MW--mounted in the mattress. Just drill a hole through the mattress and place the MW head up there, then run the power cord down beneath to a power strip. That way the cord from the watch doesn't interfere with sleeping or other bed-related activities. It's a win-win! No old-fashioned "removing of one's watch before bedtime"! No more "tangling up cords" or getting accidentally stink-shafted in the middle of the night by a used MW falling onto one's face. Practicality, my man, practicality! With a little forethought, one can be at the forefront of technology, get a good night's sleep, AND be sexually satisfied!

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    27. Re:Acceptable battery life by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      I have a Pebble. I like it. I have been wondering what battery life would be like on the next round of watches. 7 days is reasonable. One day is not.

  5. Fitness pretty much covers it by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    The only thing I can think of are the fitness metrics. It would be exciting if a smartwatch could measure not only heart rate, but vo2 stats as well as blood pressure.

    That'd be almost exciting enough to plop down 100 bucks on it.

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    1. Re:Fitness pretty much covers it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing I can think of are the fitness metrics. It would be exciting if a smartwatch could measure not only heart rate, but vo2 stats as well as blood pressure.

      That'd be almost exciting enough to plop down 100 bucks on it.

      Yeah and that would be just about then only thing that I could think of that would induce me to buy one and if they carge more than 100 bucks for it it better cook coffee and secrete honey as well.

    2. Re:Fitness pretty much covers it by l3v1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, rumors are above $200 [1] so good luck with that.

      I've been wearing watches all my life, and no phone could change my habit of checking the time on my wrist. The first thing I'd expect from any watch (smart or not) is to last at least a semi-comfortable 4-6 weeks on a charge. I just want to use it more than I charge it, I don't think that's unfair to ask, and be able to go on extended trips without worrying that I won't be able to tell the freaking time.

      Also, I'd never want a smartwatch that's dumb - i.e., it doesn't really do anything, it's just a clunky extension of your phone... thanks, but keep it.


      [1] http://www.theverge.com/2014/5...

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    3. Re:Fitness pretty much covers it by agentgonzo · · Score: 1

      Fitness sensors and apps seem to be a common thing to put into phone/watch these days, but how useful are they actually? I do plenty of sport (jogging, cycling, playing hockey) and have done so over the last 20 years, but at no point in my life have I ever thought "Wow, I wish I knew what my pulse-rate was right-now!". It may be of use to professional athletes, but to the normal person who does exercise to keep fit or for fun, knowing your pulserate etc is pointless. To me, cramming these fitness sensors into phones and watches is a solution in search of a problem.

    4. Re:Fitness pretty much covers it by grasshoppa · · Score: 2

      Fitness telemetry doesn't *need* a point beyond "it's fun". There's a sizable number of us stats geeks that would love to play with that dataset.

      Seeing how we're effectively talking about a toy here anyway, "fun" is allowed to be the point.

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    5. Re:Fitness pretty much covers it by sessamoid · · Score: 1

      Fitness sensors and apps seem to be a common thing to put into phone/watch these days, but how useful are they actually? I do plenty of sport (jogging, cycling, playing hockey) and have done so over the last 20 years, but at no point in my life have I ever thought "Wow, I wish I knew what my pulse-rate was right-now!". It may be of use to professional athletes, but to the normal person who does exercise to keep fit or for fun, knowing your pulserate etc is pointless. To me, cramming these fitness sensors into phones and watches is a solution in search of a problem.

      Having a portable device track your heart rhythm as well as your heart rate could be of great importance. My aunt suffered a massive right middle cerebral artery stroke, caused by a previously unrecognized atrial fibrillation. If she had some device that could have warned her that her heart rate was irregular, she could have avoided this crippling, life-altering event that has left her unable to walk normally or speak more than one or two words at a time.

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    6. Re:Fitness pretty much covers it by agentgonzo · · Score: 1

      I'm curious now - would any of the health apps or pulse-rate apps or heart-monitoring apps on a phone/smart-watch have warned her of such a condition (I'm genuinely interested). If so and it's a simple check that could be done using any smartphone/watch then it could down on tragic events like your aunt's in a simple quick test anyone could do.

    7. Re:Fitness pretty much covers it by SeanBlader · · Score: 1

      Heart rate monitor usable by Strava and I'd love it. Then I can ditch my chest strap, bleh.

  6. Watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I was a kindergarten teacher for a while.... and you are better off with checking a watch than checking a phone with some jobs.

  7. Built-in A/C and UV light by istartedi · · Score: 2

    Built-in A/C and UV light to compensate for the sweatiness and tan-marks that come from wearing a watch. This is the no. 1 reason why I would never consider wearing a watch again. Obviously I'm joking with the subject line. It ain't happenin', "smart" or otherwise. Now that time and a bunch of other things are in my pocket, they ain't goin' back on my wrist.

    Oh, and bands that snag the hair on your arms. Ouch. Never again.

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    1. Re:Built-in A/C and UV light by geekoid · · Score: 0, Troll

      because of a tan line on your wrist? seriously?
      That's both vain and vapid.

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    2. Re:Built-in A/C and UV light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No one needs a smartwatch, they WANT one.

    3. Re:Built-in A/C and UV light by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      Built-in A/C and UV light to compensate for the sweatiness and tan-marks that come from wearing a watch. This is the no. 1 reason why I would never consider wearing a watch again. Obviously I'm joking with the subject line.

      I wish you were joking about the reason too.

      I've worn a $15 casio watch (I replace it every few years as the faceplate gets scratched up) for the last 15 years and I've never gotten a tan line (and no, I actually do do a lot of outdoor things) or suffered from issues with sweat or hair being caught.

      Are you buying some kind of metal banded watch and then shoving it up your arm to make it as tight as you can or something?

    4. Re:Built-in A/C and UV light by istartedi · · Score: 1

      I don't know what to tell you. I also wore cheapo digital watches back in the 80s. My first one just told time and had red LEDs. That was probably elementary school or jr. high. Later I wore an LCD one that I thought was oh so cool. It had more advanced functions such as stopwatch, alarm, etc. That was probably highschool and early college. Around the same time some of my friends even had calculator watches. We were so high-tech we thought.

      It was always a plastic band. I tried my father's watch once with the flexible metal band, that pulled. I guess he just grinned and bared it because when you live through a Depression and a war a little pulling now and then is no big deal.

      Anyway, unless you don't sweat I don't see how you wouldn't notice the nasty looking (and smelling) whiteness every night you took the thing off. I guess you could have low sweat and fare skin, or something. Of course everybody's different. The watches annoyed me long before the era of cel phones, and I may be somewhat "on the spectrum" so that could have something to do with it.

      I observed that time was everywhere, (microwave, radio station ID, computer, etc.). I just learned to do without time on my wrist even before cel phones. There were those rare occasions when I felt the need to ask. I seem to recall very early in the cel phone era, somebody pulling out their phone to tell me. I thought "well, that's one cool thing about these phones everybody carries now".

      We didn't get a cel until my parents were aged. The idea was that my father would use it for emergencies. So more oddball stuff I suppose. In our house, the mobile phone was for old people. Dealing with my father's illness, death, and estate pushed me into the cel phone era--people began to expect timely contact from me, and then there was no going back.

      "Smart" tech though? Nah, still not on board. There are a few things that are sort of cool about it; but as you gather I have a tendency to move slowly in these areas. You can call me a luddite if you want; but there's a lot to be said for late adoption. A whole class of early bugs and security issues get worked out while I watch from the sidelines. Sometimes entire technologies pass in and out of relevance because my adoption is that late. I see that as win because I didn't waste time on the trendy tech.

      That's not to say I haven't been burned though... MFC, Flickr. I wish I never met 'em. I suppose there's something to be learned from those failures. I suppose I may even err too far on the side of trying to prevent failure. It takes all kinds. I think it's wonderful that we have early adopters, and non-adopters. It'd be boring (and way too crowded) if everybody was on the bus.

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    5. Re:Built-in A/C and UV light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone thinks tan lines are sexy, though. Just saying.

    6. Re:Built-in A/C and UV light by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      Anyway, unless you don't sweat I don't see how you wouldn't notice the nasty looking (and smelling) whiteness every night you took the thing off. I guess you could have low sweat and fare skin, or something.

      I never take my watch off and have never ever had even a hint of that problem. Since you mentioned "on the spectrum", I'd bet there were some sensory issues going on and you were cranking the band down tight.

  8. Cool, opt-in tracking bracelet by rogoshen1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it's rather novel that Google is figuring out how to *sell* tracking bracelets.

    Previously the government, and of all its marketing prowess -- had to actually convict people of a crime in order to drive sales, let alone get people to wear them after the 'newness' factor wore off.

    Was the key change to make them in a wristwatch format vs ankle bracelet? I suppose that's why they get the big bucks eh?

    So kudos to Google, real men of genius.

    1. Re:Cool, opt-in tracking bracelet by jareth-0205 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes yes very good. How's being clever going for you?

      Since that this "tracking bracelet" requires a GPS from the phone you're carrying and the network connection from the phone your're carrying... it's of course nothing to do with a dumb screen on your wrist.

    2. Re:Cool, opt-in tracking bracelet by zlives · · Score: 1

      may be a smart collar is the way to go. You know it makes a statement or some such

    3. Re:Cool, opt-in tracking bracelet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's rather novel that Google is figuring out how to *sell* tracking bracelets.

      Previously the government, and of all its marketing prowess -- had to actually convict people of a crime in order to drive sales, let alone get people to wear them after the 'newness' factor wore off.

      Was the key change to make them in a wristwatch format vs ankle bracelet? I suppose that's why they get the big bucks eh?

      So kudos to Google, real men of genius.

      There is nothign new about selling people tracking devices. Your phone can be used as a tracking device and since the NSA seems to have free access to the infrastructure of most telecoms in the western world they can track you pretty easily by monitoring which cell towers your phone connects to and approximating your position within the cell. Of course that's just one tracking option of many and a rather labor intensive one. It's probably easier to monitor all the crappy apps you installed on your phone and that send location data to Google & Co. or similar data leeches. If they were really determined to keep track of you the boys at the NSA might deem it world while to hack your phone and installing malware on it that sends them your GPS coordinates but as you can see they don't really need to.

    4. Re:Cool, opt-in tracking bracelet by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Yes yes very good. How's being clever going for you?

      Since that this "tracking bracelet" requires a GPS from the phone you're carrying and the network connection from the phone your're carrying... it's of course nothing to do with a dumb screen on your wrist.

      Location services via the telephone network (trilateration) is only guaranteed to within about a kilometer and then only if enough towers are available. When a phone or other device says "GPS", it's literally getting read-only data from the GPS satellite system. Location services is an abstraction where it's possible to select at the programming level what location service provider you select. Trilateration takes less power but is less accurate. GPS takes more power (= battery life) but has a much, much better minimum accuracy.

      Of course, regardless of what location service provider you're taking advantage of, if your cell is set to send/receive calls, you can be located via the cell phone towers. Even if you're not using location-aware apps.

    5. Re:Cool, opt-in tracking bracelet by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      All the cool people have them.

      What's the matter with you? You want to fit in, don't you?

    6. Re:Cool, opt-in tracking bracelet by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 1

      I hate to be the one to break it to you, but lots of things have GPS these days, and you don't need a "bracelet" to be tracked. And every time my browser asks me to "allow x.com to use my location" I'm amazed how accurate it is as well. So if you really want to be "not tracked" you'll need to give up pretty much most of modern technology.

      OTOH, modern technology is a blessing. I LOVE having a GPS and being able to always know where I'm going. I'd 100% agree we need to make sure the NSA isn't logging our every move (although I'd argue that's a civil issue with a civil solution). But there has to be a way to allow modern technology in a way that gives us the benefits, without the tracking.

    7. Re:Cool, opt-in tracking bracelet by SeanBlader · · Score: 1

      RabidReindeer, while that was an excellent technical description of the difference between GPS location and cell tower location, but I'm not sure you noticed your comment didn't actually have anything to do with jareth's comment about the relevance of a smart watch entirely lacking GPS and cellular communications and your smart phone having both active GPS and passive cell tracking while being on a dedicated data network, thereby making the idea of calling them "tracking bracelets" one of the more irrelevant comments in Slashdot history. If you don't want to be tracked as ragoshen has stated, your smart watch would be irrelevant, while your smartphone has the key to your current location as well as your historical location. The fact that your smart watch requires a smartphone doesn't make a smart watch any more capable of tracking you on it's own, regardless of it's actual usefulness on it's own.

  9. No plans to wear a watch by cyberspittle · · Score: 2

    I stopped wearing a watch when my last one broke over 10 years ago. I am surrounded by time - on my computer, the TV guide, cell phone, clock on microwave, clock on stove, clock on standard phone, time is everywhere. Why would I want to strap it on my wrist?

    1. Re:No plans to wear a watch by Anrego · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's useful in a very small handful of circumstances. The main one that comes to mind is checking the time in a meeting or other situation where it would be inappropriate to haul out a phone (although the social expectation of not playing with your phone in these situations is eroding fast).

      Mainly though, it's a piece of jewelry. I know some people are repulsed by the very idea of wearing anything more than the most utilitarian of cloths, but I like wearing one. Mine has a clear faceplate showing off the intricate mechanical workings, which is something I find cool and suits my personality. Other people get something out of the workmanship that goes into those $2000 watches.

      Not everything needs a practical purpose. Some stuff is just cool.

    2. Re:No plans to wear a watch by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      Nah. Each one of those clocks are showing their own time, that may disagree by minutes or entire hours... I don't use a watch, but only use the computers and telephone clocks.

    3. Re:No plans to wear a watch by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      Maybe what you need is an anti-watch that uses anti-time: not only does it not tell you what time it is, but suppresses other clocks around you.

      "What time is it?"

      "It's time for me to press the 'temporary disable' button on my anti-watch. Ah, according to Big Ben, it's 10:38."

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    4. Re:No plans to wear a watch by arth1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe what you need is an anti-watch that uses anti-time: not only does it not tell you what time it is, but suppresses other clocks around you.

      I have one that lacks hands, and the dial says "now".

      The problem is it's always late. I want an upgraded version that says "then" instead.

    5. Re:No plans to wear a watch by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      I stopped wearing a watch as soon as I had a phone with a clock.

      I resumed wearing a watch as soon as I heard of the Basis fitness watch. It tracks heart rate, skin temp, perspiration, and movement. Unfortunately they chose to not include alarm functionality, so I wear a Fitbit next to the watch. I really like the silent alarm functionality on the Fitbit.

      on topic: A smart watch should do what the Basis does, it should also feature vibration alarm, visual notifications of incoming calls, messages, and social media with the notifications highly configurable by the user.
      I think a watch with all these features would convince many people to start wearing a watch again.

  10. Something useful? by RoknrolZombie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would need it to do something useful that would either not be available on my smartphone, or completely replaces my smartphone.

    I doubt that I will be able to (or WANT to) talk on the phone using a smartwatch...while Dick Tracy *looks* neat in comics, It's essentially putting everyone on speaker phone which I think is pretty retarded. With that as my initial stance, it would have to do something other than what my phone does.

    I'm currently in the market for a blood pressure monitor, and I've used the gimmicky pedometers/calorie trackers before. These are things that my phone doesn't do (or doesn't do well), so I guess more or less sets the bar for me.

    I don't care that they can do "neat" stuff. I need it to do *useful* stuff. Simplify my life, don't complicate it even more.

    1. Re:Something useful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its easy to talk on a smart watch phone. All you do is hold your wrist to your ear or even link your hands behind your head. The only issue is the phone must be upside down (face on the bottom of your arm, really not a big deal), or microphone and speaker on the clasp side of the watch.

    2. Re:Something useful? by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 1

      Speaker phone isn't all bad. I use it all the time when multitasking, and I could see being able to click a button on your watch to activate as being quite nice.

    3. Re:Something useful? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      Speaker phone isn't all bad.

      Pro tip: It is bad for the rest of us who happen to be around you during your oh so important call who now view you as an inconsiderate jerk.

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    4. Re:Something useful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm currently in the market for a blood pressure monitor, and I've used the gimmicky pedometers/calorie trackers before. These are things that my phone doesn't do (or doesn't do well), so I guess more or less sets the bar for me.

      I'm wondering when we'll see these medical devices start to feature bluetooth support and lack screens with the expectation that all interaction will be via an app on a smartphone. This is useful since a phone has so much flash that it can easily record longer than any on-board device memory, plus phones feature much larger screens and can therefore display data covering much longer timeframes (not to mention they can do graphs and other nice graphical elements that don't work on the tiny screens of the medical device).

    5. Re:Something useful? by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 1

      Where exactly are you hiding when I'm at home cooking and put my mom on speakerphone? Or when I'm in the car, driving, and trying to pay attention to the road? Or when me and my friends, sitting around the couch with some beers, speaker phone in the one person who was sick and couldn't come join us?

      While there are idiots in the world who are rude and ignorant of other people, their existence does not mean everyone is. Banning speaker phone just because some people are morons makes about as much sense as legislating that we replace all glasses with plastic sippy cups because some idiots break them and hurt themselves.

  11. I already have one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I already a sweet Casio that's wp to 100M, has an altimeter, thermometer, and various time-keeping functions/features. And it was $50 bucks.

    Until, you can give me a Leila-style forearm-puter with a flexible 6-7 inch touch screen...I'm happy with my Casio.

    1. Re:I already have one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $50 bucks is a lot of money, pal. That's like 50!.

  12. Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Since this is addressed to non-watch wearers too (last sentence).... ok, I'll answer.
    If you want me to wear a watch, it needs to have:
    1) extreme reliability - it will last at LEAST 5 years, which I have never seen in any watch, cheap or expensive.
    2) Battery will last 3+ years, or it will require no battery.
    3) It doesn't have a shitty leather strap or shiny shit that will make it get stolen or some shitty material
    4) It costs less than $40.

    I have never seen a DUMB watch which satisfies these, and I suspect that any smart watch would fail miserably at ALL of them. All I want is something which won't fall apart will tell me the fucking time when I'm hiking in the woods for a week and my cell phone dies. ALL watches have failed me so far.

    1. Re:Second category by sexconker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Since this is addressed to non-watch wearers too (last sentence).... ok, I'll answer.
      If you want me to wear a watch, it needs to have:
      1) extreme reliability - it will last at LEAST 5 years, which I have never seen in any watch, cheap or expensive.
      2) Battery will last 3+ years, or it will require no battery.
      3) It doesn't have a shitty leather strap or shiny shit that will make it get stolen or some shitty material
      4) It costs less than $40.

      I have never seen a DUMB watch which satisfies these, and I suspect that any smart watch would fail miserably at ALL of them. All I want is something which won't fall apart will tell me the fucking time when I'm hiking in the woods for a week and my cell phone dies. ALL watches have failed me so far.

      A decent watch will last decades and have a battery that lasts several years.
      There are countless styles and options for the face and band, even in the $40 and under range.
      You're a fucking liar.

    2. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got my watch 13 years ago. It still works.

    3. Re:Second category by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0

      On cheap watches, the cost of replacing the battery is equal to the value of the cheap watch. So much so, that it is getting really hard to find batteries for watches in stock (at least the last time I looked). I don't buy watches as they are simply for tools trying to impress people with "money".

      "Look at my Rolex, such a fine time piece" , Uh no thanks, my less expensive cell phone keeps perfect time, changes time zones automatically for me and does more that your stupid Rolex, which is just a fancy clock bracelet.

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    4. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A decent watch will last decades and have a battery that lasts several years.

      No, they won't, although the batteries might last. Some people just seem to emit EM or some shit which kills watches, regardless of price or quality. It is absolutely true, although I can't explain the mechanism.

      You're a fucking liar.

      Yes, because you personally know everything about an anonymous internet coward, you fucking dick.

    5. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure I've only gone through 2 watches since I started wearing them in 1999. Both plain. Both digital. Both with a metal locking band. Both cheap. Both about $40. The current one is a Casio and I think the old one was too. Never changed the battery in either of them. First one died at some point and I figured I'd just get a new one because it was all scuffed up from the occasional grind against something over the years. Neither fell apart. Neither got stolen. Even if I'm forgetting a third one, that's still 5 years each. Sounds like you're just more rough on your stuff.

      Can't really say anything about the strap, since you basically eliminated every typical possibility... rip the timepiece out of one and put on your own strap. Or maybe get a pocket watch or something. Or if you hike all the time, get one that hooks onto a backpack.

    6. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people just seem to emit EM or some shit which kills watches, regardless of price or quality. It is absolutely true, although I can't explain the mechanism.

      Pro tips: don't put your watch in the clothes washer, don't drop the watch on the floor then walk on it. When you're dead drunk and about to fall asleep in your favourite gutter, try to fall on the arm where you don't wear your watch.

    7. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since this is addressed to non-watch wearers too (last sentence).... ok, I'll answer.
      If you want me to wear a watch, it needs to have:
      1) extreme reliability - it will last at LEAST 5 years, which I have never seen in any watch, cheap or expensive.

      My Omega and Seiko watches (quartz not mechanical) have been running non stop (barring the change in battery every 3 or so years) constantly for the last 30 years. Is that enough for a reliability figure ? And furthermore while my Omega cost me something like 1500$ my Seiko was a 400$ purchase. Can't think of any other product that's been as reliable as these 2 are. Ok maybe HP calculators of old come close enough.

      2) Battery will last 3+ years, or it will require no battery.

      Buy a decent quartz watch (hint not 5$ bottom of the barrel watch).
      Eco drive watches don't even have a battery, they use sunlight and that isn't going out of fashion anytime soon.

      3) It doesn't have a shitty leather strap or shiny shit that will make it get stolen or some shitty material

      You know watches are still made with stainless steel bracelets right ?

      4) It costs less than $40.

      I have never seen a DUMB watch which satisfies these, and I suspect that any smart watch would fail miserably at ALL of them. All I want is something which won't fall apart will tell me the fucking time when I'm hiking in the woods for a week and my cell phone dies. ALL watches have failed me so far.

      A Casio G-Shock is nearly indestructible and goes for 50$ more or less.

    8. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To bad you all have to be so trollish about something you know nothing about. That EM shit he's talking about is real. I have never been able to keep a watch working no matter how nice they were. It was my brother who told me about similar people in our family who have this and blamed the phenomenon on weird magnetic forces. I have no clue if that's true, and to care enough about your trolling asses to look it up. Just wanted to step in this thread and give Can't Wear a Watch guy some support.

    9. Re:Second category by sexconker · · Score: 1

      On cheap watches, the cost of replacing the battery is equal to the value of the cheap watch. So much so, that it is getting really hard to find batteries for watches in stock (at least the last time I looked). I don't buy watches as they are simply for tools trying to impress people with "money".

      "Look at my Rolex, such a fine time piece" , Uh no thanks, my less expensive cell phone keeps perfect time, changes time zones automatically for me and does more that your stupid Rolex, which is just a fancy clock bracelet.

      Batteries can be had on the cheap at this great new site called amazon.com . They've got tons in stock.
      Simply pop open the back, put your new batter in, and you're good to go. If you have a fancy watch that requires a special tool to open, you can substitute a pair of needle nose pliers (with masking tape at the ends to prevent scratching), take it to a store like Macy's or or JC Penny's and get it done for free, or buy the fucking tool for a few bucks on this great new site called amazon.com .

      Unless your watch is worth $5 or less, then your statement is bullshit.

    10. Re:Second category by sexconker · · Score: 1

      A decent watch will last decades and have a battery that lasts several years.

      No, they won't, although the batteries might last. Some people just seem to emit EM or some shit which kills watches, regardless of price or quality. It is absolutely true, although I can't explain the mechanism.

      You're a fucking liar.

      Yes, because you personally know everything about an anonymous internet coward, you fucking dick.

      Funny, I have seem to emit ATW or some shit which keeps tigers away. Decades on this planet and not a single tiger encounter.
      It's absolutely true, although I can't explain the mechanism.

    11. Re:Second category by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      I mainly wear watches because:

      With wristwatch: I wonder what time it is? (glance at wrist). Total time, less than two seconds. I can also do it in meetings without anyone noticing.
      Without wristwatch : I wonder what time it is? ( look around room, no clock available, dig in pocket, shit, I've got my cell phone in there somewhere, but my keys are in the other pocket crammed with stuff, why won't this damn giganto phone come out of the pocket, what the hell am I carrying aroun....ah, my eyedrops are stuck now!). Total time, five seconds and a load of annoyance at all the stuff I've jammed into my pockets, possibly dropping my phone in the process. I guess I COULD wear my phone on a batman style utility belt, but if wearing a wristwatch is silly, a phone case on my belt is absolutely super-dork.

    12. Re: Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll second the Omega quartz. I got mine 11 years ago now and I've got so many compliments on it and it works amazing. I've only had to replace the battery 2 or 3 times now. There isn't too many expensive items that are worth the price but an Omega is one of them.

    13. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That EM shit he's talking about is real . . . I have no clue if that's true

      I'm sorry, I usually am quite kind towards the retarded, but I really had to highlight out the above.

    14. Re:Second category by sir-gold · · Score: 1

      The lack of quote tags makes it look like you are are arguing with yourself.

    15. Re:Second category by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Isn't the battery a CR2032, same as on motherboards? That costs a few bucks. I once needed a couple of them to put in old 3D glasses, I bought them at a tobacco shop 4 euros a piece, knowing it was overpriced.

    16. Re:Second category by countach · · Score: 1

      You can't get an expensive watch to last 5 years? OMG, what is wrong with you?

    17. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Casio G-Shock is nearly indestructible and goes for 50$ more or less.

      Yep, op needs a G-shock. A lot of them have 10+ year batteries, and they are all tough as nails. I did finally break the rubber strap on one after about 10 years, but I just replaced it and it's now at 15+ on its 3rd set of batteries.

    18. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The watch I'm wearing right now cost me about $25, in an airport in Texas in 1999. It's been through 4 straps and 5 batteries since then.

      And it keeps time perfectly.

      And it has a slobbering Scooby-Doo on the face, orbited by Scooby-snacks in place of a sweep hand. What more could you want?

    19. Re:Second category by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) extreme reliability - it will last at LEAST 5 years, which I have never seen in any watch, cheap or expensive.

      What's your definition of expensive? 10$?
      Any average watch which you didn't get with your Kinder Surprise will easily last 5 years unless you're actively trying to break it.

      2) Battery will last 3+ years, or it will require no battery.

      A new watch battery will easily last 3+ years. If that's still too often for you, there are watches which don't even require batteries. Look at Seiko's Kinect (sp?) line.
      I have a 20+ year old Seiko watch my grandfather gave me with that technology which still runs like it did when he bought it.
      That tech comes at a price though.

      3) It doesn't have a shitty leather strap or shiny shit that will make it get stolen or some shitty material

      I don't get it. You don't want nice materials because it'll make your watch desirable to thieves, but at the same time you don't want shitty materials because you want quality.
      So which is it?

      Anyway, there are so many watch brands that you're sure to find something which suits you. If you want something understated, look at Skagen's watches.

      4) It costs less than $40.

      Look, you might as well be asking for a pony. If you want quality you can't expect to pay shit prices.
      A minimally decent watch will set you back around 80$. If you're buying watches for less than 40$, then it's clear why you think all watches are shit.

      ALL watches have failed me so far.

      That's because you're not buying watches. You're throwing your money away slowly by buying disposable crap instead of getting a quality product which will last you years.

  13. History Lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Decades ago there was some discussions amongst the techies about the "Dynabook" --- sort of the predecessor of the tablets that we have today --- and someone actually went and produce a thick and heavy "Dynabook"

    It got a lot of press, but that venture ended up as a failure

    Similar thing happens when Steve Jobs was kicked out of Apple, and the "jobs-less" Apple came up with the "Apple Newton", again, a failure

    Those two examples tell us one thing - just because you can produce some gadgets does not mean that the market would want it

    Same with the so-called "smartwatch" --- this idea actually came from way back, from a comic strip "Dick Tracy", something about that fella's watch that has raised a lot of "fancy thoughts" throughout the years ( see http://techland.time.com/2013/02/11/dick-tracys-watch-the-most-indestructible-meme-in-tech-journalism/ )

    No matter how strong that meme turned out to be, the society we live in today is no longer the 1930's, we have moved on

    In other words, those "smartwatch" won't be big sellers

  14. Portable cloud access to my desktop by randomErr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I want to be able to walk to cafe, hold my watch over sensor, and have my home, school, or work station popup. When I walk away my desktop goes away.

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    1. Re:Portable cloud access to my desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds good...I'd pay up to $200 for that.

      Otherwise, it'd need to cost about the same as my current watch, that is, under $50.

      AND it would need to be completely waterproof, like my current watch. No worries about having it on while I shower.

      The ability to show/buzz for calendar alerts a big plus.

      Showing SMS msgs a plus.

      A working calculator a plus.

      A recording device for short dictations a plus.

      Touch to display the time acceptable.

      Alerts for phone calls a plus.

      Ability to show msgs arrived from selected people a plus.

      Low power consumption a plus.(Long battery life...maybe it could even be powered like the self winding watch my father had from his Army days during the Korean war.)

    2. Re:Portable cloud access to my desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in the day that would have been posted as

      Portable remote access to my desktop

      But apparently even geeks here have succumbed to marketing terminology rather than existing words that already mean the same thing.

    3. Re:Portable cloud access to my desktop by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      And apparently, Anonymous Cowards have succumbed to ignorance.

      Cloud != Desktop Remote Access.

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    4. Re:Portable cloud access to my desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That actually wouldn't be that hard to cobble together with existing technologies, although some additions could make it more friendly. noVNC lets you do VNC using HTML5 (so nothing to install on the cafe computer). I've actually authenticated computers by displaying an SSH public key on the screen as a QR code and using my phone's QR code reader to copy it into my desktop's authorized_keys file. The same concept could be made user-friendly (and maybe use NFC instead of QR). The catch is that you need a public IP address for the VNC proxy/server and you need an HTTPS public key for the server. A new protocol could let the latter come from your watch/phone, but the need for a public IP address isn't friendly and probably requires a 3rd party intermediary for a user-friendly solution. Additionally, NFC/BT could be used to implement the "log out when I walk away" portion, which also probably requires support from the cafe computer.

  15. A smart phone first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not paying 600 dollars for a phone, and fuck contracts.

    1. Re:A smart phone first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not paying 600 dollars for a phone, and fuck contracts.

      You would not pay for a fuck contract? Well I suppose it depends on who's fucking who.

  16. Cam built in Dick Tracy Style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dick Tracy style built in cam and skype/video call capable. Can bluetooth to my phone for all I care. I want quick access to voice commands and video calls via the watch.

    1. Re:Cam built in Dick Tracy Style by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      I was thinking same thing. I've never considered one but hey, maybe just like in the comic series (and complete with taglines "2-way wrist TV").

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  17. It would need bing integration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because i need more metro in my life

  18. Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by sir-gold · · Score: 2

    If you are the kind of person who pulls their phone out just to check the time, then you aren't the type of person that would benefit from a smart-watch in the first place

    I wear a basic timex digital watch, not because it's some sort of fashion statement, but because it's easier to look at my wrist (especially while driving) than it is to pull my phone out, without dropping it or getting it dirty.

    1. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Andreas+Mayer · · Score: 1

      I wear a basic timex digital watch, not because it's some sort of fashion statement, but because it's easier to look at my wrist (especially while driving) than it is to pull my phone out, without dropping it or getting it dirty.

      Your car dashboard does not have a clock built in?

    2. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      What are you driving that doesn't have a clock already built into the dash somewhere?

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    3. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use the Toyota approved and provided clock in my Toyota made car for checking the time while inside the car. Try it, you'll like it.

    4. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe new cars have fancy automatically-set clocks, but mine still shows the number of hours (mod 12) and minutes since the last time my car's battery died...

    5. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      What are you driving that doesn't have a clock already built into the dash somewhere?

      Almost any motorcycle, for one...

    6. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet you ask your kids to program your VCR for you.

    7. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having not owned almost every motorcycle, I can't speak for certain. But I can say that my 06 GSX-R does. I never use it however as it can show either the time OR the odometer OR the trip odometer. And I find the trip odometer the most useful since the gas gauge is garbage. A light comes on at a quarter tank.

    8. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by sir-gold · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to buy a new car just to get a dash clock.

    9. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by sir-gold · · Score: 2

      I drive a non-luxury car that is more than 10 years old. I'm lucky to have cup holders.

    10. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your car battery is dying repeatedly, and your solution is to buy a watch? :)

    11. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to buy a new car just to get a dash clock.

      In 1981, my dad stuck a self-adhesive LCD clock to the dashboard of his then two-year-old 1979 Plymouth Volare. I think it cost him a couple bucks. Way cheaper than a new car, even by 1981 standards. His '84 Olds had a clock integrated in the radio. My '66 Mustang didn't have a clock -- no rally package, bummer -- but the retrofit radio I installed in 1987 had one.

      What are you driving? A Model T?

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    12. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by sir-gold · · Score: 1

      It's kinda funny how everyone read my comment, and the ONLY thought going through their head was "there's a clock on my dashboard, why does he need a watch?"

      Maybe I'm riding my bike, maybe I'm riding a motorcycle, maybe I'm running, maybe I'm wearing a clown suit and riding a unicycle, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

      The point was that it's easier to look at my wrist than dig in my pocket, when I'm are doing something that requires all my concentration.

    13. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      The cars I drove 20-30 years ago had clocks. Even the crappy J (unk) 2000 I started with had a clock (it was the only thing that worked in that POS car).

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    14. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      Did you forget what you wrote?

      because it's easier to look at my wrist (especially while driving) than it is to pull my phone out

      In your justification for a watch you emphasized the one scenario where you are in the extremely small minority, to the point of it being almost incredulous. That's why people are focusing in on it.

      Your larger point is valid, but got overshadowed by how you phrased your position.

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    15. Re:Smart-watches are for watch-wearers by amxcoder · · Score: 1

      My car does not have a clock built in. It DID, but doesn't anymore. When I modded my car (WRX) I replaced the clock pod on the dash with a gauge pod that holds 3 engine gauges (Boost, EGT, and Oil Press). All of the guages are more important than the clock was, so now I have no clock. Not because the car is cheap, but because dash space was at a premium, and I opted to replace the clock with something I need more.

  19. Transporter beam, health scanner, scary laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just have it do everything, that's all I want

  20. all I'd need there is a sports iPod by swschrad · · Score: 1

    wireless, several hours battery time, over 4 gig. everything else is on my smartphone, the new fogey's pocket watch.

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    1. Re:all I'd need there is a sports iPod by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Several hours battery life? I would want at least several weeks, so I can go on vacation without a charger.
      My normal watches run for years, so a few weeks is really not too much to ask.

    2. Re:all I'd need there is a sports iPod by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It depends how it is charged. If it was wireless you could just have a charge pad on your dresser where you put the watch when you sleep anyway.

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    3. Re:all I'd need there is a sports iPod by anethema · · Score: 1

      Ya my current watch (Casio pathfinder http://i219.photobucket.com/al... ) is already pretty smart as far as watches go (has altimiter, barometer, compass) and half the face is a solar panel. I've not had to change a battery since I got it, and expect I wont for a long long long time.

      Be nice if a smart watch could be rugged without being the size of a phone, and have solar or some kind of decent battery life. A month even would be nice.

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    4. Re:all I'd need there is a sports iPod by frostfreek · · Score: 1

      and take your charge pad with you on vacation...

    5. Re:all I'd need there is a sports iPod by Krojack · · Score: 1

      First off.. I wish I could go on vacation for several weeks at a time.. damn. To be fair, you can't even get this out of most dumb phones.

      Second, I use the same wall charger to charge my watch that I use to charge my phone minus the little small part that snaps onto my watch.

  21. No brainer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Battery life that lasts longer than 5 seconds.

  22. Beam me up Scotty,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ,,,otherwise WTF4?

  23. A smart phone first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where the fuck are you where it costs $600 to get a basic smart phone?

  24. I'll buy one when by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    it is made by Patek.

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  25. User Interface by vanyel · · Score: 1

    Phones are barely big enough to be usable for apps as it is - while I would like to move to a smartwatch to avoid hauling a phone or tablet around, it needs a way to have a large display on demand and simple user interface that isn't audible (for privacy and security reasons). Until we get a neural or perhaps google glass style interface, I don't think it's possible to solve that problem. And all that with a 24hr battery life.

  26. A bunch of factors by BillYee · · Score: 1

    A considerable increase in a combination of the following: Price decrease, Useful features, Battery Life, Aesthetics

  27. lots of money..in the millions by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    it would take billions more to make me wear it daily.

    1. Re:lots of money..in the millions by bobbied · · Score: 2

      You stole my response.... Smart watch???? You mean that thing that requires another device to actually DO something?

      I'll keep my old analog watch because it takes no batteries, keeps reasonable time, and is going to work when all else fails...

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    2. Re:lots of money..in the millions by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "You mean that thing that requires another device to actually DO something?"
      no. An independent device that can do it's own set of things AND couple with other devices to do more things.
      I'm surrounded by clocks. And if EVERYTHING FAILS knowing the time is the least of you problems.

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    3. Re:lots of money..in the millions by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Then this "smart watch" isn't a watch. I carry a watch to tell the what time it is, when I'm interested in knowing. Why wear a "smart watch" if that's not what it's for?

      When all else fails, Knowing the time may not be a huge problem, but it will be nice to have one. It makes it a lot easier to do a lot of things like getting around, cooking and living a well regulated life in the face of everything falling apart around you. You can time how long you boil that water you collected so you know it's safe, or how long to let the stew cook in the dutch oven. It also makes a great addition to my food and water supplies that sits next to the camping equipment, propane and charcoal supply which is next to the battery operated ham radio gear. I keep the firearms and ammo elsewhere.

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  28. It would have to be delivered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... by Scarlett Johansson.

    1. Re:It would have to be delivered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes... yes. And to put it on, you have to lift her skirt and... never mind.

  29. stopwatch, metronome and caller id and vibrate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only place I can see it being useful is fitness, and I don't do much of that these days. It would be convenient to see things like pace, laptimes, pulse, etc, without having to take out the phone and unlock the screen. I'm horrible at keeping a pace, so maybe some help with that.

    The only non-fitness use case I can think of is caller ID - if I'm in a meeting, I want to be notified of a call discreetly and silently, and be abel to check my caller ID to see if I care. I always have my phone in vibrate mode, but don't always notice the ring in a loose pocket - something in constant skin contact ought to do better. However, I don't think I would spend $100 on this.

  30. I stopped wearing a watch some years ago. by Sique · · Score: 1
    I am working all day with computers, and there I have the time somewhere in a widget or just a command away. The car has a watch. There are watches all over town. Thus, I don't need a wristwatch, and in the few situations where I need to know the time and there is no watch around right now, I still can pull out the mobile and check.

    Thus for me: Currently nothing could convince me to buy a smart watch.

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    1. Re:I stopped wearing a watch some years ago. by geekoid · · Score: 0

      You're car has a watch? how stylish. Most cars just have clocks.

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    2. Re:I stopped wearing a watch some years ago. by Sique · · Score: 1

      Sorry for not being a native speaker. I will try to change that as soon as possible.

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    3. Re:I stopped wearing a watch some years ago. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you really are a tool.

      Pedantic, and not funny.

  31. I have enough devices... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't need another one with half the features of a smartphone.

  32. Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Calling Dick Tracy, come in Dick Tracy.

  33. Handcuffed by AndyCanfield · · Score: 1

    I live in Thailand. In 1992 I was going to visit the USA. so I bought a watch. A month later I was in the US. A month after that I lost the watch. A watch feels too much like a handcuff. Be there then, race the clock, step in time, step in time, step in time. No thank you. My heart made the choice. I haven't owned a watch since then. If I want to know what time it is I reach in my pocket and pull out my new Sony Smartphone. It tells me the time, and connects me with other people and the world's schedules. But only when I chose. It's not a handcuff.

    1. Re:Handcuffed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because your phone is around your wrist, doesn't make you any less shackled to it.

    2. Re:Handcuffed by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Your topic made me think you were going to tell a whole other kind of story. But it got me to thinking. The obvious answer is handcuff key. A little knife blade would be nice, too.

      I'm not wearing a wristwatch until a holographic computer can pop out of it, and that's the whole thing. Not in this lifetime.

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    3. Re:Handcuffed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm... can you post pictures? I think you were wearing it wrong.

    4. Re:Handcuffed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel exactly the same way. I like the seeming ebb and flow of time depending on what I'm doing. I rarely focus on the time. My phone will tell me when it's time for me to attend a meeting or head out for an appointment. Otherwise I'd rather not be reminded that I have a finite number of minutes that are monotonously ticking away. I've never been into the whole man jewelry thing either. If that's something you're into, great. Just not my thing. Really, I can't think of any positive role that a smart watch could play in my life.

    5. Re:Handcuffed by Ozymandias_KoK · · Score: 1

      You know that you can check the time on your watch only when you choose, too, right?

      That said, I do appreciate the pain of knowing the time in a place where the time is irrelevant. :)

  34. How does it go... by azadrozny · · Score: 0

    Something dealing with snowballs, hell, and a whole lot of pigs.

  35. bigger display by Ultra64 · · Score: 1

    A screen the size of my Galaxy note 3.

  36. Nothing. by YukariHirai · · Score: 2

    There is nothing that would motivate me to get a smartwatch. Everything they can possibly do is done better by a smartphone, with the sole exception of the convenience of being able to tell the time with a glance at your wrist, and that is offset by the inconvenience of having an uncomfortable chunk of metal strapped to your wrist. One might possibly be able to make a case for Google Glass or something like it, but not a smartwatch.

  37. settle on a fucking standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Besides that I had a timex data link watch back in the day. So perhaps a time machine as well would be in order. Make it work stand alone.

  38. It's Very Simple -- Loyalty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I'm going to pay money to own this smart watch, I want it, its OS, and its apps to be loyal to me, not to its manufacturer. I don't want the device's manufacturer, the phone company, the ISP, the NSA, or anyone else keeping records of what I do and where I go. I want to be able to trust my property.

    I think that pretty much means I won't be buying smart watch, I won't be upgrading from my feature phone, and I'll continue working to rid myself of cellular technology altogether.

  39. Google would have to offer a new service by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 4, Insightful

    called "Google Private", where they take a subscription fee from you for services and in return, they send noise data to their marketing customers about you while providing you with a list of all entities that make user-specific queries about you.

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    1. Re:Google would have to offer a new service by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 1

      So, you want Google to provide a service where you can pay them not to do something to hurts you? That must be a totally new concept. No, wait...

    2. Re:Google would have to offer a new service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you read Water by any chance?

    3. Re:Google would have to offer a new service by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      Hah! for a moment I thought you said Google Privates. That sounds more marketable than a watch, albeit a bit more creepy. But I daresay that there are probably more fetishists out there who would welcome whatever Google Privates would be than people wanting to buy this watch.

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  40. Glucose Monitoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would buy a smartwatch and wear it--at least at certain times a day--if it provided some sort of blood sugar monitoring. The next release of the iPhone is rumored to have this. If the iPhone 8 has a consistent and/or reliable glucose monitor, I will buy one the first day and start wearing a wrist watch again. (I quit wearing a wrist watch in ~1990 because they ate my shirt cuffs. I wore expensive, for the time, dress shirts to work everyday and my dive watch chewed them up like candy.)

    1. Re:Glucose Monitoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      same. me too! Blood sugar monitoring , recording the data ever 5 minutes, etc... would be awesome

    2. Re:Glucose Monitoring by swillden · · Score: 1

      This seems like a better solution for blood sugar monitoring: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tec...

      Or does the upcoming iPhone claim to have some method that doesn't require getting access to blood?

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  41. Two necessary requirements by petes_PoV · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Firstly, like in an ordinary watch the battery life should be measured in years and it should require no other maintenance.
    Second, people should be openly admiring of it - both as a technological marvel and as a timepiece.
    If it could do anything else than keep good time, that would be nice but not necessary.

    Personally, I consider the first of these needs to be the most achievable.

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    1. Re:Two necessary requirements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a more serious note, unless you're camping or something I don't see any problem with a battery life of a few days (or perhaps even less), especially if it has wireless charging. I also like maintenance if it means updates to add features I want, or to correct a problem that wasn't noticed until after production (and both of those better be free at least until the warranty is up, if not longer).

    2. Re:Two necessary requirements by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "Second, people should be openly admiring of it - both as a technological marvel and as a timepiece. "
      wow, you are such a douche. You must have what 5? 6? Trilbys?

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    3. Re:Two necessary requirements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Second: "the battery life should be measured in years and it should require no other maintenance."

      Well, that's what would make me happy. I realize that might not be feasible if the device is doing more than just keeping track of time. However, it should last at least 7 days of normal usage (normal meaning whatever I happen to use it for). Until then, charging hassle is likely not worthwhile, so I'm waiting.

    4. Re:Two necessary requirements by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

      wow, you are such a douche

      That whooshing noise you heard just after you read the post ... you have any idea - any at all - even the slightest inkling - what that was?

      --
      politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
    5. Re:Two necessary requirements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't wear it when sleeping, and it has a wireless charging, there's no "hassle" at all, just take it off and set it down, then wake up in the morning to a fully charged device. I don't get what the problem is unless you want to use it in the backwoods with no power source (even then you could invest in some kind of solar charger if you don't live at the north pole in winter).

    6. Re:Two necessary requirements by funky_vibes · · Score: 1

      It is feasible, (1-3yrs) just depends how smart your watch really is.
      These full blown PC-operating systems running on "watches" with full colour displays are obviously never going to have more than a few days battery time.

  42. Nice try Mr. Cook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but we're not going to give you the secret keys to our wallets just yet.
    One hint though, make something that's actually useful without a phone. Integrating it with a phone is fine, but it should still have helpful functionality when not currently paired...

  43. Pants with no pockets. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great reason to wear this around is not having a weird bulge in your skinny jeans :)

    1. Re:Pants with no pockets. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who have weird bulges should NOT wear skinny jeans.

  44. There are no such features by physicsphairy · · Score: 1

    Frankly, I stopped wearing a digital watch because I noticed when I forgot it class passed by much more quickly and enjoyably than when I was counting away the minutes until it was over. Also, it lead to the rude habbit to be checking my watch when conversing or keeping company with someone, as if I was just waiting to get away.

    Having technology always at the ready is at least mildly antisocial, especially when it's visible to others. If I'm sitting down to do work then I want my full laptop. I will carry a smartphone for alarms, texting, important email, GPS, etc., but that stays in my pocket until it's needed, I don't fiddle with it and distract myself while I have any kind of company or other work to do. If there were useful features that only a smartwatch could perform, then I would carry the smartwatch in my pocket. I absolutely don't want some gaudy box on my wrist which can distract me from whatever I am presently doing. For the most part, each feature you add to it is another reason I don't want it.

    1. Re:There are no such features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must mean asocial, antisocial is something else.

      I am asocial, which means i dont give a shit about being social or what the fuck other people do together.
      If i was antisocial, i would do everything in my power to fucking ruin your life instead.

      There is a difference.

    2. Re:There are no such features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, cut the bullshit. Are you really that concentrated-on-my-work-that-I-don't-look-at-watch type? Maybe you also work in soundproof room without windows because they can distract you too?
      Do you even talk to other people during your oh-so-important work?
      In short - you don't like it - fine, don't buy it. But spare "I'm too busy for this" type of crap.

  45. A standalone smart watch for me. by antdude · · Score: 1

    I still wear an old school Casio DataBank (150 model) watch. I do not use mobile phones. I'd like a smartwatch to replace my old watch since it is difficult/hard to find another one. I do not want to buy a phone. I just want simple features like scheduler, times, address book, etc. Nothing fancy. I have disabilities so I can't hold mobile devices well. Watches are perfect. They cannot be big and heavy since I have thin arms and other issues with my old weird body. :( Anyways, it seems like the current and upcoming smartwatches won't meet my needs. :(

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    1. Re:A standalone smart watch for me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think this is exactly what I would want. A very basic watch that could quickly and effortlessly sync with with my smartphone. Basically like one of those old calculator watches but with the ability to sync the calendar, alarms, contacts, time, maybe even my YNAB budget.. Nothing that needs to be realtime, graphics intensive, or otherwise drain a lot of battery, just things that are hard to enter in on a ridiculously small keyboard.

      So the most complicated I want keeps the idea of the LCD screen, maybe as smart as to have an eink screen, and sync abilities on command (not continuous battery draining mode)

      But then the reality is, I don't think I'll ever use a watch again... Except maybe a dive watch, while I'm diving... But even that I'd prefer stayed simple, and synced with my smartphone when I get out of the water for more details.

    2. Re:A standalone smart watch for me. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Nothing will meet your needs. You are way out on the edge of the bell curve.

      http://www.casio-usa.com/produ...

      apparently you need to be a scarf wearing tattooed douche bag to wear them. Hmm Interesting marketing there Casio.

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    3. Re:A standalone smart watch for me. by antdude · · Score: 1

      Yeah, hence why the difficulities. Too bad they don't carry that 310 model anymore. :(

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  46. Can't quite stand stuff on my wrist. by Sowelu · · Score: 1

    Don't know why, just bugs me to wear them, and I keep bashing them on things. Before I got a cell phone, I wore a carabiner watch on my belt and it was pretty cool...they were built with cheap springs though, had a tendency to stop staying clipped after a year or two, and after I lost one down an elevator shaft while disembarking I pretty much swore off timepieces (coincidentally that's around when I got a cell phone and stopped needing them).

    I guess if I was working in a physical, mobile job...where taking a phone out was inconvenient (dirty hands, gloves, hands always full)...and being able to time things was really important...I'd wear a watch. I could control it with voice, that could be a killer app for some job I don't know what. ("Smartwatch, give me a thirty second countdown on my mark... Mark.") Yeah, the only use for a watch in my mind is checking the time without using your pockets, and always-on voice control is the only "smart" addition that makes sense. If you had the use of your hands to fumble with buttons or a touch screen, a phone would be easier to use.

  47. tough one by hurfy · · Score: 2

    Probably not good I had to think so hard to come up with just one answer.

    Universal remote control

    I can't find a pro that would overcome the cons. The only thing I'll use a smartphone (when I get around to one) is a better camera, it could do remote Credit Card transactions for 10 days a year(meh), and it could monitor the office security system. I can't see anything about a smartwatch to compensate for the losses.

    The poor call quality and battery life have so far kept me from even getting the smartphone yet. No way is a watch going to help either of those, so really, none.

    1. Re:tough one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't want it.

      Years and years ago, I had a watch that was also a universal remote control. It was indeed capable of controlling just about every brand of TV and doodad you could think of, at least as far as power, channels, and volume were concerned (it might have had eject too, I forget). Which all sounds great. Except you had to select from one of about a gazillion different control whatevers to control stuff with it and god help you if you lost the manual (which contained the precious index detailing with "channel" matched which brand of TV). Fortunately, only a dozen or so of the two hundred and sixty odd "channels" were necessary (I found myself only needing two or three, and much of their functionality overlapped).

      To use the blasted thing, you had to hold your wrist up in front of you aimed at the TV like you were about to challenge someone to a Yu Gui Oh duel, and press the button you wanted and hoped you remembered the right "channel" for the brand you were targetting. It was quite obvious, and a bit finicky. I eventually just set it to an extremely common "channel" that worked on several brands as far as POWER control went, and used it to just turn off TVs I found annoying.

      The watch was also a cheap piece of plastic and rubber crap with a poorly contrasting LCD (with meager, but adequate backlighting available). I stopped wearing it mostly because it had about the same cache as a calculator watch and less utility.

    2. Re:tough one by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Probably not good I had to think so hard to come up with just one answer. Universal remote control

      You can get everything important for a watch to do including UIR in a watch with 1980s technology for ten dollars and change. Sadly, it also features 1980s styling.

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    3. Re:tough one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I just remembered: It did have a "scan" function. You would have to hold down a button as it whickered through all two hundred sixty odd "channels" until you discovered the proper frequency (or close enough to the proper one) to get a response from the TV you were targetting. The way you discovered this is when the TV powered off.

      A full scan took upwards of a minute of a half of standing there with the stupid thing held out in front of you, for all the world to see. It was not discreet.

    4. Re:tough one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have one of those watches with the TV and VCR and CableBox remotes built in and its battery last three years.... Lets see Google do better. Also a calculator and stopwatch must be included. Mine has. Universal Remote indeed.

  48. teleportation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buildin human teleporter would motivate me to get one.

    1. Re:teleportation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. If it was required to keep all my molecules together, I'd consider it.
      Otherwise, no.

  49. Not for watch-wearers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People who wear watches aren't necessarily the target customers. Nowadays watches are more jewelry than necessities, and so far I haven't seen a smart-watch concept that isn't ugly as stink. The people who are most likely to buy a smart watch are those who DON'T wear a watch regularly and get one for the novelty of for some specific feature (no idea what it would be though).

    1. Re:Not for watch-wearers by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      The new pebble steel is probably the best looking of the smart watches, but thats not saying a lot. It almost looks like a normal watch, instead of a half an iPhone on a wrist band.

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  50. Blowjobs or Atropine maybe? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    Honestly, I may occasionally joke about wanting an actual PipBoy, but the truth is, I don't want to wear anything on my arm, even a small thing. Maybe an upper arm/bicept device, but, not wrist or forearm. Possibly even a small pendant device, especially if it could be belt attached or pocketed as needed....but it would have to be a pretty clever device to overcome my suspicion that its going to end up left behind in a drawer forever in 3 weeks.

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  51. Durability and independent operation by erice · · Score: 1

    I wear a shock resistant dive watch. Quite unlike my smart phone, I don't worry about dropping it, hitting it against solid objects, or getting it wet because it shrugs these things off like it was nothing. I don't worry about losing it because it comfortably resides on my wrist regardless of what I am wearing.

    I want a smart watch that is like that.

    However, much of that advantage is lost if I still have to carry around a cumbersome, unattached, and fragile smart phone. It is fine to augment the smart phone when the two devices are together but if the smart watch is non-functional on it's own than I don't want one.

    If the technology is not up to these challenges (And, frankly, I don't think it is) then it is not up to creating practical smart watches. Come back in 10 years and there may be a smart watch worth wearing. The battery problem may be solved by that time too.

    1. Re:Durability and independent operation by geekoid · · Score: 0

      Why are you comparing a specialty dive watch to a smart watch.

      It would be like me saying I would buy a Dive watch, but there don't have a phone and I can check my airline reservation from one.

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    2. Re:Durability and independent operation by erice · · Score: 1

      Why are you comparing a specialty dive watch to a smart watch.

      It would be like me saying I would buy a Dive watch, but there don't have a phone and I can check my airline reservation from one.

      Because anything less than a dive watch is a device that I have to be careful with around water. It isn't about the dive functions (made largely obsolete in recent years by wrist mounted dive computers) and there is very little "Special" about a dive watch. It is just an exceptionally robust watch. This is the kind of watch that people who wear watches for function tend to wear, as opposed to those where watches are jewelry.

  52. Home Automation by Aeyan · · Score: 1

    I might wear one if it provided a responsive interface for various home automation functions (lights, security, HTPC, etc). Honestly, it might be part of Apple's plan with HomeKit and the oft-rumored iWatch.

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    1. Re:Home Automation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So for you, the smart-watch of the future is an RFID band? Actually doesn't sound too bad... Just make sure I can turn the damn thing off so I'm not constantly broadcasting my location to every store I walk into.

  53. Who gave Google marketing PR an account? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, why is /. letting Google do their market research here? Pathetic.

    To answer the question NOTHING will get me to use Google products if it can at all be avoided. They've already broken the web.

    Don't feed the Google beast!

  54. Mandatory features: by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mandatory features of any smartwatch that costs more than $100:

    * Acceptable aesthetics.I'm setting the bar pretty low here, but it has to at least look rugged & utilitarian, if not actually attractive. If it looks like a Fisher Price toy or some cheap piece of plastic junk, it's not happening.

    * Ability to use normal wrist straps, absent some compelling and good reason to the contrary.

    * Glass that's either independent of the screen & can be replaced when cracked by me for $10 or so worth of parts and an hour of time, or hardened enough to survive getting repeatedly scraped against rough concrete walls. I destroyed dozens of watches growing up by accidentally getting too close to a wall/concrete pillar/whatever and scraping or smashing the glass.

    * MINIMUM 36-hour battery life

    * At least two tactile hard buttons that can be easily pinched independently of one another and used as a modifier key with the other. I hate HATE ***HATE*** touchscreens in general, and a watch would be the worst touchscreen environment of all. The only way to make it random-touch-resistant would be to add latency and sample delays that would make it feel laggy & slow.

    * Rootable & reflashable as I see fit. Android would be nice, some Linux variant would be OK, and frankly I could live with an Atmel AVR as long as I can personally reflash it.

    * Real, honest-to-god e-ink (not LCD-based "e-paper") display that takes a cue from the DSTN LCD displays of yore & has two or more independent controllers that can update different parts in parallel (doubling or quadrupling the time to redraw the display). Enough framebuffer ram to do full-blown double/triple-buffering with *really fast* DMA (to let you compose changes, then propagate them to the actual display in an instant instead of 200-400ms) would be even better. There's no technical reason why an e-ink display HAS to be glacially slow... they've just been slow up to now because they were designed to minimize component cost and conserve battery life. But since they'd only consume power while being actively updated, the power budget difference between e-ink with parallel controllers and e-ink with one slow controller would be fairly small (think: race to sleep instead of always running slowly).

    * If it DOES have a touchscreen (in addition to the aforementioned pair of diagonally-opposed hardkeys from a few points back), that touchscreen needs to be capable of AT LEAST 120 samples/second (if not with stock firmware, at least the hardware itself when reflashed to a custom ROM). A tiny screen NEEDS a high sample rate to get any kind of acceptable resolution from a capacitive sensor.

    1. Re:Mandatory features: by cliffjumper222 · · Score: 1

      Agree with you on lots of these. Interesting about the battery life - why 36 hours? You mention e-ink - but mirasol looks better. Color, high res, high frame rate, great outdoors. With you on the touch screen - I prefer buttons. Could be okay though, but you still have the glove issue when it's cold.

    2. Re:Mandatory features: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why only 36 hours? To be fair, he did say MINIMUM.

      But I'm guessing that he forgot that he has plans to go camping with me on the next 3-day weekend; he should have said 100 hours MINIMUM.

    3. Re:Mandatory features: by zoefff · · Score: 1

      ok, but what would you use it for... as a wrist thingy, I mean. What you describe, is just hardware specs, not much short of describing a general mobile device.

    4. Re:Mandatory features: by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      That's because I'm demanding unlocked hardware with proper documentation, so its only limits will be those imposed by the bare-metal hardware itself instead of those imposed by somebody else's tunnel vision. The Atari 2600 is a perfect example. Officially, its capabilities were little better than a Pong game. It was the ability of programmers to bitbang registers mid-scanline that made it interesting and allowed it to persist well into the early 80s. Give it open-ended input options (diagonal buttons, high-resolution touchscreen, non-limiting display tech, good wireless connectivity (probably in conjunction with a nearby phone), and abundant ram & flash, and let the end users themselves decide how to use it instead of dictating its usage to them a-la-Apple.

    5. Re:Mandatory features: by phorm · · Score: 1

      Most of these the Pebble seems to meet.

      * Acceptable aesthetics : Pebble
      * Ability to use normal wrist straps : Pebble
      * MINIMUM 36-hour battery life: Pebble (I charge mine approx weekly and it has never run down)
      * Rootable & reflashable as I see fit: I've read about people re-flashing a Pebble with modified firmware, but I'm not sure how customizable it actually is.
      * At least two tactile hard buttons that can be easily pinched independently of one another and used as a modifier key with the other: Pebble (for tactile buttons, usage depends on programming)
      * Real, honest-to-god e-ink (not LCD-based "e-paper"): Not aware of any "smartwatch" that does this

  55. What if... by kosh271 · · Score: 1

    If the watch could:
    -directly enhance my physical health - not just a health monitor
    or
    -fully replace my phone+wallet+keys - tethering to another device is not acceptable

    *And:
    should be capable of recharging in a matter of seconds, not minutes/hours
    should be durable so the device does not fail after a bump into a table corner

    As it stands today, *smart* watches are only a gimmick that will struggle to gain any traction. Smart watches will most likely never be able to compete vs smart phones. The physical dimensions required for the watch vs the phone will work to the phone's advantage every time.

  56. No less than all of the following: by maliqua · · Score: 1

    A Phaser.
    A Tricorder.
    A real time universal translator that operates transparently while conversing with people of other languages.
    The ability to respond to voice commands no matter how obscure.

    also it would need to keep time

    Ok i could do without the phaser and as long as it could always get time from gps or network connections i dont mind if it doesnt have an internal clock

    1. Re:No less than all of the following: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about Predator-style wrist computer with medikit and self destruct device? That should be easier to achieve with current technology.

  57. replace my phone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    phone, sms, email, maps, simple browser searches. I'm surounded by quite powerfull computers for most of my waking life, so i don't use my smart phone much, and quite happily swap it for a watch that does the vital things. I understand this isn't for everyone, it wont suit the guys checking their phone every 5 minutes, downloading all the apps, those without a proper computer, and writing hundreds of messages to friends. and don't get me wrong i think smartphones are great, i just dont like carrying them around everywhere.

    1. Re:replace my phone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It also has to be waterproof.

  58. Its a cool idea.... by mlwmohawk · · Score: 1

    It needs to be a complete phone with all the bells and whistles, just with a small screen.

    Extra credit, it should plug into a bigger display for things like maps, chat, pictures, and email.

  59. I'll buy one by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    as soon as it generates its own power from my movements, like my 30 year old mechanical one does.

    1. Re:I'll buy one by twosat · · Score: 1

      My thoughts entirely. If the smartwatch is low on energy you could just shake your wrist. No need for a charger, and never needs a battery replacement. Maybe have a small solar panel on the front to keep it going when it's not on your wrist.

  60. watch requirements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. easy to read hands to tell time
    2. solar power or self-winding
    3. accurate
    4. metal band with flip open clasp
    5. easy to change current time zone

  61. The SmartWatch is here to stay by TechForensics · · Score: 1

    I already have a smartwatch, but if I didn't these would be the reasons today I would get one:
    (These are all real, existing apps.)

    App that ..sends slow-scan video to watch from phone or takes and displays pictures ..sends nav screen to watch ..can display forecast, barometric pressure, wind direction and velocity ..gets full weather report ..lets you activate watch features based on a value on the internet e.g. **buy alert** goog is at $450
    or "new post on your blog", etc. ..lets you know your phone needs charging ..keeps you on-time with buzzing alarms ..(maybe not yet) tells you if your flight is on time ..displays your track as you wander around hoping to wander back

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    1. Re:The SmartWatch is here to stay by geekoid · · Score: 1

      The market of people who want to slap somehting o there wrist is still shrinking.
      We have two generation of people where wearing a watch was not a necessity.

      Unless that have an actually killer app or tech(holographic display) there value doesn't warrant the limitations.
      Obviously there are specialty area for a watch to be worn. I can't think of one where you would want a smart watch due to is fragile nature.

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  62. Never! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont wear or even own a watch, so why the hell would i need a smart one??

  63. lock/unlock function by excelsior_gr · · Score: 1

    The only advantage of a smartwatch over a smartphone is that it can't be that easily stolen/lost/broken. I would therefore like it to take over more critical functions that, however, require a minimum of interaction with the smartwatch. Have it automatically unlock/lock my house/car using proximity sensors, for example. Of course it should provide all sorts of time-telling functions, like time-zone conversion and it should have calendar reminders. It should be 100% waterproof so I can wash my hands without having to take it off. Did I mention that the battery should last for at least a year? Don't bother with anything inferior than that.

  64. To make it worth it. by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The key features to make a 'smartwach' worth my money, in my mind, starting from the hardware side:

    1. E-ink display. Easy to read in daylight, can be illuminated from the side for low light use, extremely low power use.
    2. Inductive charging. I need to be able to take my watch off and set it down on a stand, and pick it up in the morning knowing its charged, no fiddling with little connectors that get corroded by my personal humidity.
    3. Decent water resistance. This is an extension of number 2, but vital. I need to be able to sweat, wash my hands, slosh a drink, and not be worried about ruining a multi hundred dollar piece of hardware strapped to my hand.

    as for software features, I desire:

    1. Show me the time without having to screw with it. - I don't want to be pressing buttons on my watch just to see the time during the day. At night, yes, a button for a light, but I need it to be a 'at a glance' function.
    2. caller ID function, and ignore call function. This thing is linked to my phone, so most of its point is to be able, at a glance, to see who is calling me, and ignore the call if desired. Single dedicated button for this function would be best.
    3. Volume control for headphones attached to phone. - say, I have my phone in a pocket/arm case, using headphones to listen to music or make calls. digging the phone out to change volume, or fiddling with tiny buttons on the side of my head at my headset sucks, It would be nice to be able to use a volume control on my wrist to adjust the volume of whatever i'm using. Remember, this 'watch' is supposed to be an extension of my phone. basic pause/play/skip function would be nice also.

    Honestly, thats about it. The main thing that makes me dislike the current smart watch offerings is bulk, charging, and over-feature. There are very few things I will want to do on a screen small enough to fit on my wrist comfortably, and as such, I see the smart watch as more of a peripheral device, not a primary interaction vector for my devices.

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    1. Re:To make it worth it. by cliffjumper222 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sounds like the Pebble or the Toq. Toq has the inductive charging and they both have reflective displays.

    2. Re:To make it worth it. by tazbert · · Score: 1

      Most of those are provided by the Pebble. I've been wearing one for almost a year; I bought it as a peripheral for my phone.

      Hardware
      1. E-Ink display - good daylight visibility, flick your wrist to turn the light on.
      2. Not inductive - contacts with a magnetic clip. Haven't seen any corrosion so far. Lasts almost a week on a charge.
      3. Water resistant - I wear mine in the pool so I don't have to turn the ringer on my phone up.

      Software
      1. Time display always visible, depending on the display you load. I use several watch faces - large numbers when I'm driving, full time/date at my desk, analog just because.
      2. Caller ID with ringer silence via button press. Probably apps available to accept call to speakerphone or respond with a text; haven't looked for them.
      3. Remote control apps for most music players - start/stop/prev/next/volume. Also displays track info.

      Hundreds of other apps if you want to get more involved. Price tag ($150) was a little high, but I think it was worth it. Still a lot cheaper then the numbers I've been hearing for some of the new smartwatches on the way.

    3. Re:To make it worth it. by chaotixx · · Score: 1

      I'm with you. The only other feature I would add is to be aesthetically pleasing. I don't have giant wrists/hands so I don't want a giant watch. I'd like to be able to switch out the watch band to any aftermarket one I like. It seems like the watch we want doesn't really need to be "smart" at all. I think Bluetooth could handle all of those features.

  65. Instructions on how to wind a watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is so much better in spanish. I found a decent translation....
    Preamble to the instructions on how to wind a watch (Julio Cortázar)

    Think of this: when they present you with a watch, they are gifting you with a tiny flowering hell, a wreath of roses, a dungeon of air. They aren't simply wishing the watch on you, and many more, and we hope it will last you, it's a good grand, Swiss, seventeen rubies; they aren't just giving you this minute stonecutter which will bind you by the wrist and walk along with you. They are giving you - they don't know it, it's terrible that they don't know it - they are gifting you with a new fragile and precarious piece of yourself, something that's yours but not a part of your body, that you have to strap to your body like your belt, like a tiny, furious bit of something hanging onto your wrist. They gift you with the job of having to wind it every day, an obligation to wind it, so that it goes on being a watch, they gift you with the obsession of looking into jewelry-shop windows to check the exact time, check the radio announcer, check the telephone service. They give you the gift of fear, someone will steal it from you, it'll fall on the street and get broken. They give you the gift of your trademark and the assurance that it's a trademark better than others, they gift you with the impulse to compare your watch with other watches. They aren't giving you a watch, you are the gift, they are giving you yourself for the watch's birthday.

  66. samsung galaxy gear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Galaxy gear first generation ($300 at launch) I was super excited for all the things that it was supposed to do and all the apps that were going to be developed. There are a few things that I love about it. My very favorite feature is that I am only 2 touches away from the 7day weather forcast. I am a motorcycle rider and keeping an eye on the weather is key for me. I love that I can use the watch as a phone as long as im close to my cell phone. At home I never carry my phone so when it rang it was a mad dash to find the phone before the call goes to voicemail. Now I just answer on the watch. The things I dont like are the silly samsung voice search. It's just like the google search but it never works, why they didnt just pipe the audio into the google voice search I will never understand. Where are all the apps that were supposed to make the watch so cool? there is only a hadfull of apps to download for the watch and some of them are not even in english. Of course the worst part of it the cost. I love my watch but it was not worth 300 bucks not even close.

  67. What would it take to buy a Smartwatch... by hackus · · Score: 2

    Probably some sort of brain seizure of something that suspends my belief that technology is support to serve a purpose, and is definitely not a method to sell trinkets.

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  68. Ruggedized outdoor watch by SpaceGhost · · Score: 1

    While I can use my Note2 for all things digital, I still wear a watch quite often, a Casio G-Shock. The main feature that it has that keeps it on my wrist is the compass, although I use the alarm and timers more often.
    I would like to see what the email/text/whatever is that I just got so I can decide if I need to read it now or later. I would like to have biometrics like pedometer, pulse, etc. Customizable watch faces are a must. Working with the phone GPS to display waypoint direction would be great.
    Has to have GREAT battery life, it would be awesome to have solar like my current watch. I would turn off some of the features to get better battery life.
    MUST be water/shock resistant.
    My last smartwatch, a Timex Datalink, had some neat features, like being able to upload a days worth of MSExchange appointments. This endeared it to the astronaut crowd. It had some neat apps available too, but it wasn't rugged enough, and mine didn't alarm so I stopped wearing it.
    If Casio or Suunto come out with a smartwatch version of their "adventure" watches they would probably qualify, but I wouldn't want to spend more than $200, so I'm figuring it will be 2-3 years at least for this feature/market intersection.

  69. Round display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More than anything I just want a watch with a round display.. (Moto 360?)

    Doubtful would actually wear it and most likely would not spend hundreds of dollars to buy.... have a few "cool" watches already I never use.

    So for me to actually spend $$$ bar/coolness factor would need to be quite high .. probably unrealistically so.

    I won't even consider a watch "featuring" any of the following:

    • * Camera
    • * Battery lasts less than a week between recharges
    • * Battery not user replacable
    • * Bulky / heavy
    • * Locked down/closed
    • * Vendor BS:
      • - Endless nonsensical excuses for data collection, spying, market intelligence, ads, ad nauseam
      • - Unecessary requirements to be connected for features to work or device controlled via vendor mothership and google accounts. (Google glass type bullshit = complete deal breaker)

    Features I would like to see:

    • * Barometer and high sensitivity magnetometer
    • * Massive watch face/style libraries + simple style customization with huge library of information options.. weather, tidal charts (/w tide stations), moon phases, GPS+baro+forecast separate and fused, stars, planets, compass, world clock.
    • * Display technology with properties more like e-ink.. must be perfectly visible in direct sunlight, display must be on at all times and battery life must not suck.
    • * Outer dial that can be physically rotated to scroll thru data and menus.
    • * Stereo speakers
    • * Water proof
    • * Solar charging
  70. Make watches thinner by snsh · · Score: 1

    Watches are still way too thick. You still can't find a digital watch (except for some ridiculous e-ink devices) less than 5mm thick.

    While they're at it, why do dial watches still have crowns? You should be able to hold them up to a computer screen to set the time and date like those old databank watches. All they need is a sensor or solar cell and a tiny bit of logic.

  71. Stopped wearing a watch by Spazmania · · Score: 1

    I mostly stopped wearing a watch because my phone does that now. I only need a watch in secure areas where phones (and smart watches) aren't allowed.

    Pocket watches went out of style when miniaturized and rugged wristwatches became cost effective. Now pocket watches are "back" in the form of a small computer in a pouch - aka a smart phone. A wristwatch can't have enough of a display area to be useful as "the" mobile computer a person carries around. And there's no real reason someone would want to carry two. So except perhaps as a style thing, the wristwatch isn't coming back.

    You'd have better luck with a fallout-style pip boy -- a band covering the forearm with a screen a good 8 inches long.

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    1. Re:Stopped wearing a watch by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      I agree with your sig 100%.

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    2. Re:Stopped wearing a watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, if it could slow down time and help my aim against the radscorpions, that would be great.

  72. GPS by kiphat · · Score: 1

    GPS and stats for while I'm biking.

  73. I would only consider it if by tehlinux · · Score: 1

    If it was shaped like a candy bar and fit in my pocket so I didn't have to wear it on my wrist.

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  74. shouldn't that be a "smartch"? by spads · · Score: 1

    xx

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    1. Re:shouldn't that be a "smartch"? by dlb · · Score: 1

      Only if you're trying to get to the 'meating meyer' website.

  75. I'd need one that comes with a car... by FlipperPA · · Score: 1

    ...and that car must be K.I.T.T., the Knight Rider Two Thousand.

  76. Any One Of: by Sir+Realist · · Score: 1

    Any one or more of:
    Time Travel.
    Teleportation.
    Anti-gravity.
    A pricetag of $0.

  77. A smart watch? Nothing. by DaveyJJ · · Score: 1

    I haven't worn a watch in 15-20 years. So nothing could get em to start wearing one again. And a Google watch? Bwahaha!! I'd rather have root canal work done by a twitching drunk sadist dentist then touch anything Google ever makes. P.S. My WiFi blocked Nest thermometer is for sale, cheap, ever since Google bought them ... make me an offer.

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  78. A reason... by Feadin · · Score: 1

    If it were cheap, non-plasticky, water and shockproof, medium size and with several years of battery life I'd probably get one... but only if my Timex Expedition gives up first.

  79. If it comes with the woman of my choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    catering to my preference for solid-thighed brunettes.

  80. Battery and cost by neminem · · Score: 1

    My dumbwatch's battery lasts about 2 years, and when that battery dies, I can go to a store and buy another one for a few bucks. When the watch itself eventually dies, I can go to a store and buy a whole new watch for about 25-30.

    I would buy a smartwatch when those things are true of smartwatches. Until then, I'll stick with the watch I have, thanks. I don't really *need* a watch to do anything other than tell me what time it is and have an alarm on it, after all - in fact, doing other things would probably just make it less useful for those primary tasks, a la Stroustrup's great quote about phones: "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone."

  81. It would have to be sexy by Snotnose · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sexy enough so a hot 20 year old would hop into bed with my fat 56 y/o self when she sees me wearing it.
    / make that a hot 20 y/o female
    // human female
    /// I have no explanation as to why she would wander into mom's basement to see me wearing it tho.

    1. Re:It would have to be sexy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. It would have to be made by Apple.

  82. Perhaps not a full watch.. by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 1

    I probably wouldn't get a fully featured smartwatch, but the Nabu Smartband from Razer is about as close as I'd personally get. Mostly for the annoyance factor my phone tends to garner when it's constantly going off with Hangouts, GroupMe, Twitter, Facebook, Skype, and many other applications that cause my phone to make noise. With the smartband, the annoyance is isolated to just myself and the vibrating band on my wrist, allowing me to permanently turn down the notification volume.

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    1. Re:Perhaps not a full watch.. by dale.furno · · Score: 1

      Are you aware you can turn off notifications from those apps and put your phone on vibrate so you don't disturb the good folk?

    2. Re:Perhaps not a full watch.. by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 1

      Yeah... Disabling notifications from those apps means I never get notified, even when I want or need to be. And putting it on vibrate results in the phone reverberating upon whatever surface I happen to have the phone on, resulting an even greater annoyance as the phone skitters along the table/desk/shelf under it's own mis-guided motive power. Both options don't work as easily as the Nabu would.

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  83. Simple - $100 / day by motorsabbath · · Score: 1

    $100 / day, paid in full by google, direct deposit, and I'll wear a stupid fucking smart watch.

    I don't have to use it, do I?

    PS: I already wear a watch.

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    1. Re:Simple - $100 / day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You also seem to suck a cock every day too, Apple fagfanfag. Keep sucking that Steve Jobs dick.

  84. Awe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am in shock and awe that no one even thinks of reminders... I believe I have read a good majority of these comments and see some very valid features.

    Sports Tracking (eg Time, Distance, Pre-Determined time left or Distance left for any activity Biking, running or otherwise.)
    Time
    Notifications from other Apps
    A method where charging is either not needed or needs replacing after x years

    But what about Date reminders? Or Reminders of your daily schedule at a new job or school? I think that would be a huge plus, glance at your watch and see "Next appointment in X hours" or "at X:XX"

    1. Re:Awe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, and the device itself doesn't need to do a thing... it connects to your popular smartphone VIA bluetooth, keeps a cache of any needed data in case of temporary disconnect, and the watch can warn you when you are forgetting your phone somewhere. Would an NFC in your wallet work as well?

  85. battery life. by steak · · Score: 1

    my last watch went 14 years on one battery, my current watch is about 3 years old.

  86. Easy by geekoid · · Score: 1

    holographic display; instead of a watch so bulky it looks like the people selling them aren't comfortable wearing one.

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  87. Bundle it with the Myo by Sowelu · · Score: 1

    Already posted, but got a better idea. Combine it with that Myo thing that measures your tendons or whatever so it can tell what hand or finger motions you're making. The hell with touch control or voice control: Make it something you can operate by only moving the hand it's strapped to, without touching anything. Use with Bluetooth earbuds, put your thumb against your third and fourth fingers, 'swipe' up to start/stop your music, or down to skip track...maybe something to answer or hang up a phone call. This is given the assumption that the required hand signals are simple and do not have false positives. Hell, maybe you can write by signing letters in ASL under the table so you can text in a boring meeting, better than subvocal. *IF* the input was extremely usable and reliable, that just might be novel enough for me.

    Of course, it occurs that I could just wear a Myo by itself and pair it to the phone in my pocket.

  88. A head injury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that might work

  89. Why put the smarts in the watch? by overshoot · · Score: 1

    We already grant that the person wearing the watch has a phone, so why not just keep the watch simple (and thus power-stingy) and slave it to the phone?

    That way, if there's a feature you want on the watch, get the phone app to do it.

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  90. nothing by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

    this is a solution searching for a problem that doesn't exist. I still wear a nice watch, mainly as a backup for when my phone has a flat battery or is in an awkward to reach place. my current watch does everything I need it to do, it tells the time, is water proof so I never need to be concerned where I am with it and doesn't need recharging more than once a year, maybe one day a smart watch will also be able to do all those things, but what's the point!

  91. Waterproof 100m & sail-racing ready... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...which by consequence means it would be ready for plenty more of activities (various sports, trekking/travelling, survival device under extreme weather).

    Ideally, it should be able to:
    - Replace/improve upon the function of any 50$ watch & timekeeping device ;-)
    - Keep track of GPS coordinates and assorted functions, just like any Garmin eTrex device is capable of
    - Allow to download maps, weather forecasts, marine traffic bulletins & civil protection alerts; extra bonus for real-time updates
    - Permit to collect information for racing performance, dynamically providing hints for potential improvement options or, risks.

    In sort, provide what machines can do, instead of humans, when you are on-board.
    Much of this business can be automated, it is just some magic hand missing to put it all together!

  92. Smartwatch. phew ! by Clived · · Score: 1

    I have an android smartphone. Why would I need a smartwatch ?

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  93. Patek Philippe by PPH · · Score: 1

    n/a

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  94. Better form factor! by Joosy · · Score: 1

    Smart watch designers have to let go of their idea that it has to look like a watch. It's like the early years of automobiles, where cars were designed to look like carriages without the horse, or vegetarian food in the 1950's and 1960's which had to look like meat.

    I want something long and more or less rectangular that wraps partly around my arm, starting from the wrist and going maybe halfway up the forearm up to the elbow. This would allow me to read text messages or notifications without having to squint at something tiny. It would open things up to a huge market for apps that just don't work on something about 1" across. It would allow me - eventually, once they were touchscreens - to press buttons or even type with one hand. And it would open up a huge market for digital tattoo "screensavers".

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  95. not look like a smart watch by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

    a smart watch that used a regular dial and had a siri-like but massively expanded voice prompt system, and it needs to use a kinetic charger or an induction charger so I never have to plug it in to anything for any reason.

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  96. Cell phones aren't enough? by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 1

    Feel free to wear a smart watch. It's not like your cell phone isn't already telling people where you are even when you think it isn't. Also go ahead and pay for it too, saves me some tax dollars when people pay for their own "spywear" as well as any fees for connectivity.

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  97. Inspired to... meh by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Until it can sit on my wrist for a year or so without needing my attention, it's not a watch, it's an annoyance. I'm so unwilling to fuss with stuff like that, I bought a deep water capable tritium watch that is illuminated (glows) all the time, numbers, hands and outer ring.

    I think this is how smartwatches will go over with just about everyone else. Less function than the phone, which we already have, twice the annoyance (have to take it off to charge it.) Not likely to fly. Google glass (which I *despise* but anticipate the success of) is a much more functional wearable (and you could easily shoehorn med sensors in there, too... just a little more integration, etc.)

    As for the medical/sports aspect, it's a pretty lame "sport" (croquet?) that would let a watch get by unscathed, and medical sensor suites are already available, and with considerably longer time-between-charges, too.

    Just gonna go ahead and call this the Segway of wrist thingees. :) Sounds good, looks good, isn't good.

    Semi related, when is someone going to market a solar-cell surfaced skullcap? I mean, heck, if you're going to wear a computer on your face, you might as well wear a power supply assist on your head. Maybe a little propeller for when the wearable's batts and the skullcaps reserves are fully charged. ;)

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    1. Re:Inspired to... meh by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      Until it can sit on my wrist for a year or so without needing my attention, it's not a watch, it's an annoyance.

      That's certainly reasonable for replaceable batteries, but with a chargeable watch I could accept anything that would easily cover two weeks. That said my solar powered radio watch has been going for five years without having to change batteries or adjust it and I'd need some pretty good features to persuade me to move on from that,

    2. Re:Inspired to... meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until it can sit on my wrist for a year or so without needing my attention, it's not a watch, it's an annoyance.

      So you are the proverbial man who is punctual once in a year an late the rest?

    3. Re:Inspired to... meh by OS2toMAC · · Score: 1

      The propeller could also be useful as a wind turbine. Solar and wind power in one device!

    4. Re:Inspired to... meh by IronChef · · Score: 1

      What's your tritium watch, got a link?

  98. A dedicated device by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    I want a Dick Tracy 2 way wrist TV that operates by audio commands. I mean audio commands that actually work in some reasonable fashion. Not:

    "Call Chuck at home."

    "You said have sex with woodland animals behind your house?"

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  99. Priorities by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Here's my priorities for a smart-watch, in decreasing order of importance. Satisfy all of these and I'll consider wearing one:

    1. Battery life. Useless if it needs charging every day or two.
    2. Responsiveness. Staring blankly at a spinner while the watch synchronizes is a show-stopper.
    3. Security. How easy is it for someone else to connect to it or the controlling tablet/phone without my permission?
    4. Feature set. Yes, this is only fourth on the priority list.
    5. Price. I'd rather it didn't cost a month's wages to buy one, but if they become popular enough there will be a second-hand market soon enough.
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  100. Old fashioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing. No thanks ever.

    At home* there are dumb phones, dumb TVs, gaming consoles, a laptop and a high end PC loaded with music, games and useful, easy to use software. At work I have a phone and a PC with music and useful software. Plenty of those have clocks built in.

    When I'm not at either of those places, I'm probably going from one to the other or running errands. For those situations I have a plain digital watch because I ain't all up on instantaneously interpreting that analog shit, also fuck "class". I have a discman that has been home to the same, unchanged, 34 hour, 460 song CD since 2005. Yes, those numbers are correct. No, I'm not an audiophile, I don't give a shit how much data is lost in compression (atrac3+), still sounds fine to me. Headphones while walking, headphone-to-cassette adapter while driving. No cellphone of any kind because I don't go far enough in any direction that I couldn't walk home... even if took a few hours. It'd be pretty useless anyway if I was dead in a crash, and I'm not going to obligate myself to calling 911 when somebody else gets nailed because there's always plenty of other people out and about who can do it. (Is my apathy showing?)

    When I'm going from A to B or running an errand, I don't want to talk to people about work or family shit, and it should make sense that I'm too busy to be dicking around with some stupidly expensive fidget toy. I don't take cabs, buses or trains. I drive and I'm not going to distract myself. You're welcome, fellow motorists.

    I have everything I need.

    * There's also a tablet at home that nobody ever uses. I strongly discouraged them from getting it because I saw that coming.

    Captcha was "overhead"...

  101. Battery, Battery, Battery !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly, I am sure they'll get everything else [more or less] right except this, which IMO matters the most in terms of usability. I dont wanna charge a half dozen devices every other day.

  102. WIsh list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) As good as the timex I have (Size, features, battery life 1 year, cost, ruggedness)
    2) Watch function can be setup from a smart phone (Bluetooth?)
    3) Can be driven from apps on the smart phone (Who's calling, answer or drop call, next appt, Inbox peek, Pos or Neg ack to text, etc)
    4) Available as a cheap $50 plastic gadget up to a $1000 piece of jewlery.
    5) Hopefully a standard case so the electronics can be swapped keeping the jewlery case.
    6) Pulse and pedometer maybe, but not at the expense of the above.

    I would buy a mass producuced TImex replacement that's smartphone aware for $50.
    The swappable, standard form factor electronics in a jewlery case might attract the high end market.
    The ability to download code seems doomed to geekdom niche due to the loss of works as good as a timex.
    But if the standard case thing worked out, eventually more functions would fit allowing feature/battery life tradeoffs.

  103. Calculator Watches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember those faggy calculator watches from decades ago, where you had to use the tip of a pen or some such to use it? The ones that screamed to all who beheld, "I AM A DORK"?

    These are the equivalent for 2014. You have been warned.

  104. Her'er are some answer'ers by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're(sic) car has a watch? how stylish. Most cars just have clocks.

    My're car (well, truck) has a monitor, which I often watch. So I don't accidentally clock somebody. It's a timely solution.

    You should see what I did to solve my blind driveway problem. That one involves a radio transmitter, a frame combiner, two cameras, and a remote receiver in the truck. I watch that too, similarly concerned about clocking issues. Solves a number of problems hands down.

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  105. No smartwatch for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a lifelong track record for breaking watches while wearing them. (I an a very physically active person.) As a result, I now only buy watches for $30. If one lasts until the battery needs replacement it is an exception but most last me less than one year. Maybe when I get old and my activity level declines, a 'watch' with bells and whistles will make more sense.

  106. I bought a Pebble for just one reason by hey! · · Score: 1

    Calendar reminders. That's it. I don't always keep my phone in my pocket and sometimes I have the thing on silent. It's worked out well for me. I tried the email and facebook notifications, but I really don't care about missing those things. For me the whole point of email over phone calls is that you don't have to drop what you're doing because somebody has something to tell you.

    Now I've always worn watches; I like them. I like being able to glance to see the time. I also like the quick, crude analog timing function of a rotating bezel, although I can live with a digital stopwatch. And I like a good looking watch; for me this means simple, functional elegance. I think the best looking watch ever made was the Rolex Submariner, although I'd never spend that kind of money. Generally cheap watches are too cluttered for my taste, but you can find a reasonable Submariner knock-off around $80 (e.g., an Invicta 8926OB).

    It's not a matter of impressing people with how much I spend. One of my favorite watches costs only $35 (Timex Expedition T45181). I like it because it is simple, functional, and aesthetically pleasing in a subdued way.

    But with the Pebble any question of aesthetic elegance goes right out the window. It's an ugly hunk of plastic. It will not impress anyone. But then, missing an appointment because your phone is in your coat pocket on silent isn't going to impress anyone either. The Pebble does one critical thing (other than tell time) and does it really well. Most of the time that makes it my go-to watch. On weekends I go for my Submariner knock-off, or if I'm doing something that will beat up the watch I'll go for the Timex.

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    1. Re:I bought a Pebble for just one reason by canadiannomad · · Score: 1

      But with the Pebble any question of aesthetic elegance goes right out the window. It's an ugly hunk of plastic. It will not impress anyone.

      Just saw the Pebble Steal, sorry, Steel online. Honestly doesn't look so bad...

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    2. Re:I bought a Pebble for just one reason by carnivore302 · · Score: 1

      The new submariners with ceramic bezels are near indestructible. It's the wristband that will get the most damage. Funny enough, mine was scratched within a week after purchase on the cyclops eye... while swimming. It will have no problems going 1000 ft under water, but if you scratch it against the wall while doing some crawls it will take a hit...

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  107. Knight Industries 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll need one to call my self driving car.

  108. I ordered mine today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mashed the refresh button on Google Play feverishly all day until it showed up, then ordered the LG G Watch with one day shipping. Can't wait! I call BS on the majority of the haters and skeptics here, you know you ordered one too!

  109. Already own one by Enry · · Score: 1

    I keep my phone in my pocket and usually on complete mute. So when there's a phone call or meeting reminder I don't get it until it's too late. Broke down and bought a Pebble a few months ago and a slight buzz at my wrist tells me there's something I need to pay attention to, and in a meeting or with friends it's a lot easier to just glance at my wrist to read a text than pull my phone out, turn on the screen, enter my unlock code, get into the app, and read the message.

  110. Conceptually, the iWatch might crack the challenge by Camembert · · Score: 1

    If reports of Apple's upcoming smartwatch are true: a device crammed with non invasive health related sensors, (with more sensors being added to later models), then I could see it succeeding at creating a new market. If it is not clunky. I can see this approach as a gamechanger. I also wouldn't be surprised if it could be used to control home automation via their homekit api. While you are sitting in the sofa, a quick swipe to adjust the light. Finally i can see it exchanging maps information with an iphone which is in your pocket. A quick glance for directions as tou walk. Curious what the real featureset will be. We live in interesting times.

  111. Why do we have wristwatches? by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

    Why do we have wristwatches? Because they are more convenient than having a timepiece in one's pocket to take out to check the time.

    Therefore a wrist-phone must be more convenient than both a wristwatch and a "pocket" phone. It can't just tell time. A wristwatch does that. It can't just tell you that you have a call, your phone does that. It also can't do something that requires user interaction . . . Why? Because you need two hands to interact with a smartwatch. The hand with the watch strapped to its wrist, and the hand manipulating it.

    So when will a smartwatch be useful and desirable? When you find an interface method that doesn't require two hands.

    And no. I don't know what that method is. And if I did, I wouldn't tell you.

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  112. Only if . . . by jshackney · · Score: 1

    I'd get one if it could do all of these things:
    1) Tell time in at least three time zones at one glance (local, UTC, home)
    2) Must be solar powered (those kinetic watches are crazy pricey) -- My last trip to a jeweler for a battery change was wasted with a 45 minute sales pitch for Melaleuca. No thank you!
    3) Must NOT be crazy pricey (I'd rather spend $100 for a GOOD watch)
    4) Must, absolutely must be light and comfortable (ideally of a size that would be considered large for a ladies' watch, yet smallish for a mens' watch)

    I'd be flexible on these:
    1) Be able to tell the time of sunset, sunrise, civil twilight, and anything else interesting as far as sunset/sunrise is concerned, but must be able to give LOCAL times without me resetting the location manually each time.
    2) Exercise tracking ability (obviously GPS/calculator/etc/)
    3) USB/Bluetooth/IR connectivity

    Things I really DO NOT need:
    1) An E-6B built-in to the face.
    2) Fancy/flashy face and/or band

  113. Absolutely Nothing by LittlePud · · Score: 1

    I wear a mechanical self-winding wristwatch. I would never wear a smart watch.

  114. What would it take? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    You pay me $50/month, with the proviso I can leave it turned off 24/7.
    And by 'off', I mean in a metal box so it can never phone home accidentally.

  115. It's a watch first by chuckugly · · Score: 1

    Since it's a watch, it has to run at least a year, and preferably longer without my thinking about charging it. Whether that's solar, or something else, I don't care. It has to look decent, and not be too big, and do something useful that my simple mechanical watch doesn't already do.

  116. I hate the feeling of watches by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

    I hate the feeling of a watch on my wrist. I'm not sure why, but I never liked it. When I was a kid before cell phones became common I discovered that, and quickly became the only kid in high school with a pocket watch. And a pocket smart watch is just a cell phone. Possibly with a lanyard, though my current phone (SGS4) sadly lacks a way to attach one.

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  117. Price by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

    Other people have mentioned price as a factor. For me, that's the ONLY factor. It needs to be cheap enough that if it turns out to be useless, it didn't inconvenience me.

    I wouldn't mind a smart watch just for mucking around with and seeing what hacks I could do with it. But I can't justify the expense of buying one on a whim.

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  118. I have a smart watch by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    My watch has the time and date, a chronometer, an alarm, a light, and even a countdown timer. It's smartest features are its ability to hold a charge for over a year, plus being fairly rugged and cheap. Plus, it's got built-in 100% foolproof hardware protection against any tracking malware. Can't get much smarter than that.

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  119. What it would take... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone else's money.

  120. self winding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    make it self winding like an automatic.

  121. Holographic Interactive Projections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - Biggest requirement for me: Just like in many sci-fi movies / games.
    - Batteries which hold a charge for a LONG period of time - I should be able to find this thing in a landfill 50+ years from now turn it on and have it work.
    - Wireless charging ... if I take it off at night anywhere within 15 ft. of a charger, NOT have to plug it in, and be able to pick it up the next morning fully charged.

  122. Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3 years of battery life

  123. What would it take? by Chas · · Score: 1

    Can it print money (has to be usable denominations)?
    Can it get me in bed with women who're completely and utterly out of my league?
    Can I press a button and have the head of every Mac-tard within a square mile explode?

    Come talk to me when you get it working the way I want...

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  124. PimpBoy 3 Billion, baby. by BBF_BBF · · Score: 1

    Because watches are man-jewelery.

    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/...

    Honestly, something with a landscape screen, but less bulky than a pipboy, and more like a wrist watch.

  125. Garmin Forerunner 610 by movdqa · · Score: 1

    I have a Garmin GPS Watch. It's great to track your runs and has a website where you upload your run information and biometrics so that you can replay your run or analyze your performance. It works as a regular watch as well. It can also give you a picture of your run or walk so that you can determine where you are relative to where you started in case you get lost. So it's good for running and they have models for triathletes that are waterproof to 10 meters or something like that. Mine handles the rain just fine. It will interface with fitness club equipment and digital scales and it comes with a chest strap that you can use to measure your heartrate while you workout. You can also set alarms for minimum and maximum limits. The updated model also has motion sensors in the chest strap so it can do things like analyze other stuff about how you run and make recommendations. Of course there are limitations. It's big and thick. It has a touch screen but it's imprecise and there's not a lot that you can do on a touchscreen that small. It will run for 8 hours on a charge. You need a special charger. I'm a runner and most people think that runners are nuts and they're probably right but a runner and geek will put up with the limitations to get the functionality present. I really doubt that Apple, Samsung, Google, etc. are going to produce something that caters to this market. I don't think that their products will have the durability of a special-purpose device and I don't think that their biometrics sensors will be anywhere as useful as the Garmin's chest strap. So I will be happy to see what they come up with but I have a lot of doubts as to how useful the devices will be. BTW, one thing that I would like is an iPod Nano with BlueTooth for my runs. I have older generation Nanos with wired headsets but I'd much rather go wireless. An iPod Nano watch would work but I'd have to wear my Garmin on one wrist and the Nano on the other.

  126. Rugged by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    It needs to be so rugged that it won't matter if it gets soaked in mud, chemicals on it, slammed against a concrete wall, in direct sunlight for hours, etc.

    It needs to have it's own powering that will last for a week. Solar electric cell should be built into the face and band to constantly boost the energy levels. Kinetic powering caused by the swing of my arm to further boost the battery life.

    If it had that and was essentially a smaller version of my iPodTouch/iPhone/iPad then it would be of interest.

    And it has to be inexpensive. Oops.

  127. email by BradMajors · · Score: 1

    The ability to receive email.

    10 years ago, I wore a watch that could receive email. This watch was discounted and I have not been able to find another one.

  128. It tells you time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... If you don't wear a watch, what features would motivate you to get one?

    It tells time? Especially if it sounded like Christina Hendricks in Firefly. I don't think anyone would see my left hand again.

    Too lazy to log in.

    Mellowlocke

  129. Equal existing functionality +provide new features by eye_blinked · · Score: 1

    A new watch just needs to do what my existing one does, only better, and for a similar price. Any new features are a bonus. This is how smart phones evolved. Every new phone I gained added new features to the basic phone functionality. In this area still we are still generating phones with additional features. We have not yet decidedly reached the era of computers that just happen to have a phone feature.

  130. Hookers and blow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And a sandwich.

  131. Round with a decent interface. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Round LCD screen with a rotary encoder (with detents) around the screen. Some means to make it pressure sensitive. Turn the rotary to select/input, squeeze to click.

    With a rotary, you could do most of the thing you'd really want. Scroll down a list of contacts. Move forwards and backwards on a calender quickly. Set a timer.

  132. Many, many iterations by itomato · · Score: 1

    I won't buy the first, second, or probably third generation of the current 'smartwatch'. Fool me once, shame on me.

  133. As a diabetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a diabetic, I would like to see an app with associated hardware that can read your blood sugar in realtime and display it. Get the app to record it and you can even tell when your Blood Sugar goes low overnight, average for the week, etc.

    Getting realtime readings without constant blood tests would be awesome for the user and for the Dr's being able to get hold of the actual data rather than the anecdotal evidence would be better for your health too.

    I imagine it would also be able to use pulse, O2 saturation and other readings too...

    But technology might need to catch up for that to work...

  134. Not tell time. by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    1) Monitor and keep and continuous chart of blood glucose, sleep cycles, blood pressure and pulse rate, blood oxygenation. Don't even know if the tech is viable for these, but they'd interest me.
    2) Be part of a payments system that actually gets traction out there. Let me import all of my cards of various kinds and then provide them wirelessly to others without having to pull out a card (and/or a phone with a specialized app).
    3) Same thing, but hold all of my tickets for entry into events.
    4) Connect to a voice-to-text service to enable personal logging/journal-keeping just by talking at it.
    5) Find a way to operate clearly and reliably using gestures and voice recognition rather than touch input when desired.
    6) Have built-in GPS and voice navigation.
    7) Have a built-in high-resolution camera to enable convenient visual capture of information.
    8) Do all of this in a cloud-based manner so that everything that the watch did/tracked was available from all of my other tech devices.
    9) Have a between-recharges time measured in weeks.

    I don't know, it would have to be pretty freaking fabulous. But there are some basic things that I *don't* care if a smartwatch does, and those are probably more telling. I absolutely do not care about doing these things on a smartwatch:

    1) Calls
    2) Web
    3) Email
    4) Facebook
    5) SMS
    6) Linking it to my phone via bluetooth
    7) Telling time

    Number 6 in particular is a non-starter for me. Battery life on phones is already too short. And phones are the devices that I use for web, email, and other informational tasks on the go because they (not a smartwatch) have the screens suitable for reading/editing. I need them to last as long as possible, and I have no interest in duplicating their functions on a smartwatch. So I refuse to enable bluetooth on my phone all the time just to get some additional "watch" features.

    It needs to be a "standalone" device in the sense of no other devices needed for it to operate normally, but a completely cloud-integrated device in the sense of "but I can access everything it does and it can access everything I do on my other devices over the network."

    Number 7 is also pointedly interesting. I don't care if something on my wrist can tell time. Social "time" as a concept is more ambient than ever. Everything has a clock on it. Your computer. Your phone. Your thermostat. Your radio. Your car dash. Every ticket machine of every kind, from movies to transit to events. Public spaces and the sides of buildings and billboards and retail shop signs. I don't look at my wrist or my phone to know what time it is. I do a quick visual 360 and in general, I find what I'm looking for, wherever I happen to be. A "time-telling device" is frankly a bit 19th/early-20th century a this point.

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  135. My conditions by Casandro · · Score: 1

    Well first of all the usual stuff. It needs to be completely open source and have an open bootloader so there is a chance of security. It also needs to have rather simple code so it can be checked, as well as decent battery life.

    Then there is the whole issue of user interfaces which isn't even solved for mobile phones these days. What you need is a powerful interface that works on small devices. So far the best contestant in that area seems to be the HP-01 calculator watch.
    http://www.led-forever.com/htm...
    It allows you to start a stop watch, and then use the result in real time to do calculations on it.

    Unfortunately it seems like "smartwatch" manufacturers will go the other route, making them rather useless. Just like they already did with the idea of a "smartphone" when they turned it from something like the Nokia Communicator to something like the iPhone.

  136. Battery Life + Health Tracking by skaag · · Score: 1

    The only way I would ever consider wearing something on my wrist:

    1. Long battery life (Charging it once a month would be a reasonable compromise, but ideally once every 6 months or 12 months).
    2. It tracked my health in a meaningful way, and produced helpful insights that actually help me keep healthy.
    3. NO PHONE FEATURES and NO GPS! I prefer to leave that for my phone.

    Things I want me watch to tell me:

    - You are lacking fluids, drink water
    - You are too stressed, relax
    - You are hunched, stand straight
    - You have been sitting for too long, get up and walk for 5 minutes
    - Blood Oxygen levels too low, do some exercise
    - You are not sleeping well, consider changing your sleeping environment (or a number of recommendations about sleep)

    Those are just a few, I'm sure I can think of a few more if I really put my mind to it.

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  137. I've worn a watch for almost 60 years... by the_rajah · · Score: 1

    I have a stainless steel self-winding Rolex Explorer that I bought for $157 in Gibraltar in November of 1969. I've had it serviced once. It still keeps very good time. It tells time in the 12 hour system. No day, no date, black face, high contrast very visible hands. It's a basic watch and it's exactly what I want in a watch. I don't think I need a "smart watch" to augment my smart phone. I will admit that I sometimes use a Plantronics Bluetooth headset with the smartphone, in part, to comply with our new laws regarding phone use while driving. That, so far, is the extent of my wearable technology.

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  138. What I DON'T want it to do by Morpeth · · Score: 1

    - broadcast my location to anyone
    - store any personal information (or at least allow me to have total control over what is stored)
    - be hackable
    - require me to charge it like a cellphone, fuck that, I want it to last for a year+ like a regular watch
    - require the presence of my phone for its functionality
    - act like a Dick Tracy gadget, there's enough asshats talking out loud via Blueooth et. al.

    Honestly I'm not interested in a 'smart' watch, to me I see it being mainly just another piece of tech that people will be f*cking with when they should be watching the road, or making eye contact while talking to the person in front of them.

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  139. One feature only: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A "Panic" button that, when pressed, will invoke an IFFF script and notify whoever you like (including 911). Two biggest markets that I see: 1) College women walking across campus at night, and 2) the elderly "I've fallen, and I can't get up!" crowd.

  140. As a type I diabetic by archetypeone · · Score: 1

    If it can do CGM or even interface with a CGM sensor then it will be totally worthwhile. Currently the best CGM solution cost around 3k and requires another mobile phone sized bluetooth device which is NOT my phone.

    1. Re:As a type I diabetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This! I have lost more than one CGM receiver (phone sized device), because I have too many devices in my pockets (insulin pump, CGM receiver, phone), and I pull it out, set it down to do a confirming finger stick on another device (glucose monitor), treat with either insulin or glucose, and then forget to put the receiver back in my pocket.

  141. One feature only: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry; I meant "IFTTT recipe". :-)

  142. Pebble by dZap · · Score: 1

    I have the same opinion on features as you and I think the Pebble is close enough so that is why I'm wearing one rigth now and it's a long time since I wore a watch but I got really tired of pulling up my smartphone from my pocket all the time. Very happy with it so far. With a 3rd party app I can also get just the right amount of notifications.

  143. It has to beat my $30 Timex. by Mercury · · Score: 1

    The #1 priority, it has to be at least as good as my $30 Timex at what that $30 Timex actually does.

    I could live with the battery needing charging every week, but not more often, half the point of my watch is being able to tell at a quick glance how much longer I have to sleep. (Without putting my glasses on, thanks, a clock on the night stand really doesn't help here.)

    Better programmable alarms, alarm noises, and vibration alerts than I can get with a simple watch would be good.

    Beyond that, give me a good heart rate monitor, and other basic sensors, and a good API to play with it all.

  144. you are holding it wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got a smart watch phone (omate true smart) i wear it upside down on my wrist and can easily take calls just by putting my wrist to my ear, or by linking my hands behind my head. It has worked perfectly fine for the month or so i've been using it as my only phone without any bluetooth accessories (people on call don't even know i'm using a watch phone).

  145. While driving by spasm · · Score: 1

    A watch is easier to look at when you're driving than a smartphone. Work out something that's useful to have when you only have a split second to look at it, and you have a market. Otherwise you're just talking about a fashion accessory which happens to tell the time.

  146. A lobotomy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An utterly useless idea

  147. Nothing by pmontra · · Score: 1

    I didn't wear anything on my wrists in the last 25 years and I can't think about any feature that would me want to do it again. One of the good features of a phone is that you put it into a pocket and take it out only when you need it. Your hands and wrists are free. When I go cycling I've already got my bike computer, on the bike. About monitoring all those quantified self things, they don't matter to me.

  148. spidey.apk by kamathln · · Score: 1

    when it can detect spider-man guesture and throw spider webs on your enemy

  149. heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    considering how hot a smartphone can get I'm sceptic to wear something like that (hey both got the word "smart" in their name so the technology must be the same) so close to my skin..

  150. i want privacy by mnt · · Score: 1

    - most important: a sync feature (for example with a basestation at your home) that does NOT give up your personal health data to the manufacturers server, which in term will sell your data to health insurance companies and what not. - standalone operation, not a dumb device that needs a bluetooth tethered smartphone near it all the time - buttload of sensors, like pulse, oxygen level, blood pressure, odometer, body/outside temperature - battery run time in the region of weeks or months - physical buttons on the front, not side. if it has an laughable stamp-sized touchscreen i am not going to buy it - waterproof, not water resistant

  151. WP Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Pebble Steel is pretty close to what I want, if it got Windows Phone support I think I'd be sold.

  152. Nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing would motive me to buy a "smart"watch. I cannot think of any scenario, where a smartwatch would help me in my daily life.

    I prefer automatics, due to the inherent absence of current, the more natural feel and the not-connectedness.

  153. I don't want a smartwatch by ubersoldat2k7 · · Score: 1

    I want a PipBoy damn it!

  154. negative cost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it would have to be free, or less, I have a good watch, I don't see any real value in the functions of the current smart watches. But that's based on my personal needs, or lack of them.

  155. No cool factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless Apple can make the smart watch cool. I don't see many buying one. I certainly won't, for the same reason I don't want Google glass. I don't need to wear tech.

  156. Technology doesn't exist by swb · · Score: 1

    I don't think the technology exists.

    The bracelet on my Tag chronograph recently broke/wore out and I bought a Seiko analog chronograph to wear while I get the Tag bracelet replaced. The Seiko is a solar quartz and charges via any kind of light and supposedly has nearly 30 days of reserve power when fully charged but otherwise never needs battery changes (from what I read in reviews it will stay charged from ambient light merely sitting on a dresser). I can't tell where the "solar panels" are on this watch face, either.

    For me to wear it, it would have to look like a quality analog watch on the outside. The face should continuously display a high res view of an analog watch, adjusting the display image/brightness to ambient light (so in low light it would resemble an analog watch in low light, with just the luminescent glow of the hands and numbers/markers).

    The battery should last at least a month without taking it off (which is where the technology doesn't exist part comes in).

    Trouble is, I can't see what "smart" features I would care about. All I can think of is that it would be cool to load new watch faces (ie, with exposed 'mechanisms', chronographs, moon phases, etc).

  157. Smartwatch on airplane = switch off? by Moskit · · Score: 1

    "I am surrounded by time - on my computer, the TV guide, cell phone, clock on microwave, clock on stove, clock on standard phone"

    Once you get out of parents basement, time is not everywhere ;-)

    It's true though that there will be people who find utility in wearing watches, and those who don't. Enforcing one solution for all will not make people happy - if you don't want a watch on your wrist, why wear it?

    Interesting to see whether smartwaches would need to be turned off at an airplane... they use radio for some of functionality.

  158. Smart alarm, navigation, payments, standalone by Katatsumuri · · Score: 1

    A few things come to mind.

    1. A sleep tracker and a smart vibrating alarm, so I could get the most from my sleep hours and not wake up my wife and baby. Something similar exists and does not require an OS like Android, but would be a nice feature for a device like this.

    2. Solve the city navigation. To the level of "now which exit should I take from this subway station?" and "now where is this bus stop I'm supposed to take next?"

    3. Electronic wallet, if they can make it universally acceptable.

    4. It would be nice if it could replace the phone for calls and maybe music, even if phone calls are not as convenient and are only meant to be a backup option. It has to work as a standalone device without also carrying a phone in your pocket, anyway. Optional software integration is welcome.

    5. It must work at least a week without recharging, and maybe have an optional wireless charger you could use at your work desk without taking it off. Battery life is more important here than the display colors or the ability to play video.

    6. There can be different screen sizes (jewelry to PipBoy 2000) and different price points. It's going to be hard to balance the screen, batteries, looks and price. If you want it to be popular, there has to be a $100 version with limited functionality, a $300 version that replaces all the main smartphone functions (maybe use a flexible/curved 4" screen), and multiple $1000+ fashion makes.

    All these features don't have to be present in every device. For example, I would not use a 4" device for a wearable smart alarm.

  159. Only a few things by Djehuty3 · · Score: 1

    First up; I have type three Ehlers-Danlos, which means that my joints randomly dislocate, and I take huge amounts of analgesia. Sometimes I have to deliberately take a larger dose than I am supposed to to get home if I don't have my wheelchair with me. This leads to episodes of confusion. So a nice big simple In Case Of Emergency button would be exceptionally helpful if I fall over or get too out of it. Additionally, the ability to have it remind me to take medication would be helpful. The ability to pull up Maps and navigate without having to pull out a device; it is not easy to defend myself. Finally, robust remote media controls for the paired phone or tablet. When I pass through crowded stations, particularly Westminster or London Liverpool Street, in my wheelchair, I occasionally get absolute fucking morons walking into me, despite flashing lights on my wheels and on the crutches on the back of the chair at about head height. To deal with this, I keep a set of quite loud Bluetooth speakers mounted to me chair, and blast metal as I travel. This also motivates my pushing. The ability to easily control this from my wrist, without having to dig into my pouch, would be very helpful. Oh, and telling the time would be a nice bonus, too.

  160. I wouldn't buy one! by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

    I'm actually making my own. I don't see why I should spend ~$200 to just get a microcontroller with some circuitry on my wrist, not to mention it's really fun to design and build. My goal is to release my design as an open source alternative when it's done including both the hardware and software.

  161. Here's what you do by JonathanHart · · Score: 1

    Phone Gauntlet. Shiny black plastic outside, soft thin grip enhanced material on the palm side. Actual phone electronics and screen are placed on the forearm. Maybe a little fold out keyboard there. Heres the hook: to make or answer phone calls you place your hand up against your head just as you would if you were making the hand signal for talking on the phone. The speakers situated on the thumb and the microphone on the pinky finger.

    1. Re: Here's what you do by JonathanHart · · Score: 1

      Oh and what the heck, might well make it feature rich. Setup the Bluetooth in the phone electronics and write some drivers such that you can use the glove as a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard with laptops/desktops that are so enabled. Furthermore, add a IR LED on the end of the index finger to act as a programmable remote. One of the fingers will need a camera, of course in addition to the one on the forearm for video calls. Finally, a few pockets on the wrist side for credit cards, money, and ID. Then the only you'd be missing is a key ring.

  162. Kitt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having Kitt at the other end and coming to pick me up

  163. Two things... by WileyC · · Score: 1

    The first is if it becomes a TRUE replacement for the things that I put into my pockets... ALL of them: loyalty cards, credit cards, keys, etc.
    The second is if it replaces about, oh, 80% of what I use my cellphone for: scanning the titles of emails (and quick deletes thereof), texts, GPS/locationing, and, oh, telling the time. =)

    Give me those two things with a decent interface, and I'm in.

    --

    /// Not a super-genius . . . yet. ///

  164. Data plan matters. by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 1

    If the device had a long battery life, and I could get an unlimited data plan, I'd use it.

  165. Anklet for a Bracelet, no thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps Lindsey Lohan could be the spokes person.

  166. well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (a) one that had enough resources on it's own to qualify as "smart", or IOW the capability to operate on it's lonesome w/o needing a smart phone, etc.
    (b) given (a) some useful functions other than dumbass things like displaying calls and messages
    (c) and the hard part(maybe) ability to last say at least a week between charges, augmenting with solar charging this should be feasible
    (d) not ginormous

    (d) I have casio protrek(replaced an older hamilton selfwinding) and pretty much regret it. It passes the charging test as it's solar chargeable and in over a year hasn't dropped below it's max power indicator level, but most of it's other functions are pretty much useless, e.g. compass might be north, might be south just depends, altimeter well I'm either basically at sealevel or a couple km above depending upon I guess the phase of the moon, air pressure, horoscope... tidefunction is similarly useless, barometer is useful only that while not accurate(readingwise) does give an indication of trend which is the important part, and time/date functionality works but the freaking watch is just ginormous to have so many [s]mostly[/s] entirely useless functions

  167. Smart anything by hooiberg · · Score: 1

    It is about early to ask about smart watches. How about first asking what it would take people to buy a smart phone, or a smart television? Personally, perhaps threats of cruel death, on all three accounts.

  168. Medical monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a watch that tells the time, and a smartphone that does my mobile apps, and a laptop that does my work stuff. The watch is the only thing that's "always" touching me, the others I can put down. To make a smartwatch viable, it would need to take advantage of that ... monitors for blood sugars for diabetics, pedometer / pulse / blood pressure for health nuts and hypochondriacs, various monitors for people on tricky medications. It would need ability to log data, reliability and long battery life, ability to emit loud warnings / alarms if something is amiss ... perhaps call for help on its own. For anything that doesn't require constant monitoring, other tools would probably be better suited (larger screens, more features, more range or longer life, etc). ... and of course, reasonable price.

  169. It needs to help me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want any tool I carry to help me.

    If my phone rings it should show me the caller ID without me doing a thing.

    If I get a text I should see it without me doing a thing.

    If I get an email I should see the sender/subject without me doing a thing.

    If I have a meeting coming up in XX minutes, show me the title and location without me doing a thing.

    If any of the above are displayed I should be able to tap/swipe and get more details.

    I'd say 75% of what I get does not need immediate attention. I can tell that with the above information, a quick glance at the watch and I know I can ignore it for now. Another 15% I need to read and not respond. A single tap should give me that.

    If I need to respond a double tap should open the appropriate app on the phone so I can deal with it.

    Give me that in something that looks good and I'll be happy.

    I tried the Sammy watch with a new Galaxy and gave it away after a week. It didn't do what I needed when I needed. Too many taps/swipes to do anything.

    The first product that is aesthetically acceptable and does what I need when I need will win big.

  170. Zawinski's Watch by gregroush · · Score: 1

    Why do all of my things need to do all of the things?

    I still wear a watch because it's generally quicker and more convenient to glance at my wrist than to dig my phone out of my pocket. In addition, I'm not required to turn my watch off when I get on a plane (though that's less of a reason now), the battery lasts on the order of years, not days (or hours), and I don't always have my phone on my person.

  171. I wear a "dumb" watch by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    It's easier to glance at my wrist for the time, rather than digging my phone out of my pocket. It also has a stopwatch & timer, though the phone's is so much better that I rarely use the watch for that anymore.

    For anything else, I can't think of anything that I can't just as easily do with my phone.

    --
    Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
  172. $99 price point by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Like modern tablets started at $500, with decent ones around $200 now. There will be a shake-out in smartwatch feature sets and manufacturing economies of scale. You probably dont need a camera on a watch as some have tried.

  173. TROLLS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, you know a huge percentage of you trolls out there poo-poo'ing these devices either:

    a) Immediately ordered one with 1-day shipping the second it became available yesterday afternoon
    or..
    b) Can't afford it and are just crying 'sour grapes'.

    Seriously. Tolls. Your bridge called, and needs you back.

  174. pipe fitting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $> tail -f -n 10 apache.error.log | wristwatch

  175. Great for Jogging/Cycling/Running by smist08 · · Score: 1

    First off it needs to be waterproof. And sufficiently waterproof to swim with. I have a Garmin GPS watch which is great (except it isn't waterproof enough to swim with). The battery life sucks, but it is still great for running and cycling and has a heart rate monitor. I have an iPhone and there are better apps for that, but it really isn't up to the environment. Would be nice to get the better phone apps on a Garmin type watch with better durability and battery life. For any athletic activity these are great for collecting and sharing useful metrics.

  176. I wear an automatic wristwatch by trailerparkcassanova · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't replace it with a smartwatch. I wouldn't even replace it with a quartz watch. I wear 3 silver Navajo bracelets on my opposite wrist so there's no place left for a smart wristwatch.

  177. Personally I like mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really enjoy my smart watch for a few reasons. I work in an IT department like so many others; I receive 30-40 text messages from computer systems throughout the day. Some of these messages need attention and others don't; In addition to work text's I also have personal and work email come to my phone and can both be accessed via my smart watch.

    I personally feel that pulling your phone out for every notification, especially in the presence of others, is rude. But being in IT, I cannot just ignore all my messages; my watch allows me to glance down and see if it is anything urgent. Also, if you happen to set your phone down and walk away from your phone, your watch will vibrate when go out of range. If you happen to someone that leaves your phone places this could be an added benefit. There is also a phone finder app that will cause your phone to ring loudly if you set your phone down somewhere in your house.

    But on the other hand if I didn't happen to work in an industry where I am usually connected, a smart watch might not make as much sense. The time and weather are just icing.

    In case anyone is curios I am using the Sony SmartWatch V1; I got it before V2.

  178. G-Shock Tough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm hard on my watches, and I have been very happy with the Casio G-Shocks. I'm not interested in something I have to baby, so I wouldn't get anything fragile for a start.

  179. Your phone, your watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.etsy.com/listing/163762025/communications-bracer?ref=sr_gallery_2&ga_search_query=Communication+bracer&ga_ship_to=US&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery

    Communication bracer made by Two Gentlemen of Fortune on etsy.com. They can actually make this for any smartphone. 'Nuff said.

  180. Features by phorm · · Score: 1

    I've already got a Pebble. There are many things I like about it but things I would love to see:

    * Inductive charging /w a decent charging base
    * Ability to "answer" a call (rather than only suppress ring). This is doable with Pebble but for some reason requires a ton of extra software on the phone
    * BT Microphone on the watch (this will likely kill batteries unless new battery tech comes out)
    * Better battery life (I get about a week).
    * Works with multiple languages (Pebble only seems to support English)

  181. Pocket Watch by DERoss · · Score: 1

    I bought a new Hamilton Railway Special conductor's pocket watch with the first paycheck I earned as a computer programmer in 1962. Since then, I have never worn a wrist watch and do not plan to wear one.

    I retired the Hamilton when I got a pocket Casio with a calculator, alarm, and count-down timer. I now have an electronic pocket watch with a round dial and hour, minute, and second hands; it also shows the date (but not the month or year). I have to reset the date when a 30-day month ends. When that happens, I recheck the time against a global array of atomic clocks that are tied to the Internet; I find it keeps excellent time.

    Yes, I was a computer geek in the early days of geekdom and remained so until I retired. I do not own a smart phone or even a dumb cell phone. When I leave the house, I prefer to leave it entirely -- phones, computers, etc. But I do carry a watch in my pocket on the end of a chain attached to my belt.

    By the way, during much of my career, I was the go-to person for issues relating to time-keeping and the rotation of the earth on which time-keeping is based. This was for various projects involving earth-orbiting, military space satellites.

  182. Small enough, track workouts without phone present by aclarke · · Score: 1

    I'm considering replacing my iPhone 4 with something bigger, as my eyes are getting worse. If I get a larger phone, I'm not going to want to take it with me as much when I'm running or skiing. Give me something that can still track my workouts without my phone being present, and isn't stupid large and I might consider it. It also needs to be reasonably inexpensive, durable, waterproof, and have battery life long enough that it won't always be out of batteries when I go to wear it.

  183. To make it worth it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the idea of inductive charging. Also a good battery capacity, i wear a watch everyday because i'm used to wear one since i was a kid and also because my phone might die on me and i always need something reliable to know what time it is (happened a lot of times with smartphones).

  184. The ability to... by Keyboard+Rage · · Score: 1

    ...zap any NSA agent, or people of similar ilk, by mere voice command.

    Unfortunately, given the amount of morons who want to know all about you, I might get vocal problems quite quickly...

  185. Not much really... by Lord+Flipper · · Score: 1

    I'll buy one the day after The Leafs win the Cup.

  186. Low price... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the price is right (and it isn't yet close), I'd wear a smartwatch.

    I stopped wearing regular watches more than 30 years ago, and only started carrying any sort of timepiece when cellphones became common about 10 years ago.

  187. Feature list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm too poor for this shit, but if I had the money the following things would be desired:

    1.) Bluetooth connectivity for my real phone and my headset.

    2.) Ability to control music playback

    3.) Ability to present my address book and allow me to start a call

    4.) Ability to let me pick up a call, and end it if necessary

    5.) Ability to give me directions while riding my bike

    6.) Ability to read new text messages as they come in

    7.) Batteries must last a week

    8.) Its got to cost less than $250.

    All in all, I think I'll be a late adopter.

  188. Here is what I would realitiscally want by strikethree · · Score: 1

    This is not an entertainment device so an E-Ink display would be great. Can they be made touchscreen?
    Another reason for the E-Ink display would be great battery life.

    I want one of the models to be fairly large; almost like strapping a Nexus 5 to my wrist.
    It must be thin. The batteries can be in the wrist strap (which should allow for very long batter life (24 hours minimum)).
    The wrist strap must not absorb anything, must not be coated with hard metal, and must let my skin breathe.

    Applications that I would use/need:
    GPS/Maps (navigation is not needed! I am perfectly capable of finding my own way, just show me where I am.)
    Time (of course)
    Text messaging (possibly with a removable handheld keyboard type thing for when having long conversations via Hangouts or whatever).
    Phone capabilities with a hardwired earpiece that can be pulled from the device and automatically retracted. Speakerphone optional.
    Built in microphone and camera with LEDs hardwired (can not be surreptitiously turned on in software!) to show if they are active. May as well have an LED to show if the earpiece is active as well.

    If other neat things like body and air sensors can be implemented, then great. Air pressure, blood pressure, blood oxygenation levels, sugar levels, body temp, air temp, etc etc. Magnetic compass. You get the idea about sensors. Ability to turn them individually and as a group.

    A hardware switch that turns off all data collection and transmission (making it essentially a digital watch for the duration) that can not be bypassed by software.

    I would pay large sums of money for such a device. I would be afraid to have such a device without the hardware switches described.

    --
    "Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
  189. Priorities for Smartwatch design by phlawed · · Score: 1

    In order:

    - minimum a full week battery life. Even that is really too often for a watch-like device, but as long as available technology is what it is, say a week.
    - did I mention battery life yet?
    - I'LL RECHARGE SUNDAY NIGHTS ONLY, OK?
    - wireless charging or a dock, I don't care. No fiddly connectors, or port covers.
    - IP68
    - always on display, readable in sunlight
    - guaranteed periodic software updates for a minimum of 5 years from launch. Make sure the device has enough RAM onboard.
    - functions:
            - open API for third party apps
            - timekeeping.
            - periodic sync of paired smartphone calendar to local calendar, so one can get events and browse the calendar without the phone around
            - periodic sync of paired smartphone contact list, so one can use the smartphone as a dialer. Also remote keypad.
            - ability to display alerts and messages from a paired smartphone.
            - heart rate monitor. Togglable. (Is that a word?). Also readable from smartphone via BLE. Will eat battery, ok. Accurate. Works when exercising. Talk to MIO.
            - NFC, so the smartwatch can be used as a key.
            - compass. (GPS is useful with a map, a smartwatch does not have enough screen realestate for a map. And it eats battery.)
            - multimedia controls for a connected smartphone
            - virtual leash, so either the phone or the watch notifies you if the other part appears out of range
            - ability for smartphone apps to use smartwatch as a remote display of sorts. Will eat battery, ok.
    - design. Think Macbook Air. For the wrist. Soft shapes, solid appearance. Or something. I am not a designer. A shiny, overheated lego brick doesn't cut it, ok?

    I do not see a smartwatch as a (primary) input device. Think remote display and sensors.

    --
    Dag B
  190. extras... Re:Mandatory features: by Fubari · · Score: 1

    Also... I'd consider buying a Smart Watch with any of these capabilities...
    * Time travel, +/- 5000 years, with return feature
    * Teleportation, up to 50km distance
    * Time dilation ("bullet time"), minimum 60 seconds subjective to 1 second external observer.
    * 3D copier (3D scanner + 3D printer; synthesize feedstock from atmospheric carbon)
    * Flight (up to 30 minutes, max load 200kg, max speed 50km/hr)
    * Force shield (deflect rain + bullets), 60 minute runtime
    * Transforms into giant Battle Robot
    * Underwater breathing support + waterproof (rated to 300 m)
    * 2d projector (4m diagonal w/1200 lumens @ 20m)
    * Holographic projector that plays "Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi..."; monochrome image ok
    * Sleep gas feature
    * Dog-walking feature

  191. Change Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...even though they could easily pull out their phone and check the time ..." -- not so fast. For the past 13 years, I've worked at a high-tech company as a SW Engineer where all electronics on your person are strictly prohibited for security reasons. Just yesterday, security personnel came walking by with a handheld cell phone detector (no joke). As a lover of technology, I unfortunately won't be able to wear a smart watch during my working hours even if it is the best thing since sliced bread!

  192. Pocket watch by spaceman375 · · Score: 1

    When my cell phone comes in a pocket watch form factor is when I'll buy a smart watch. Screw wearing it on my wrist.

    --
    On the one hand you take life too seriously, and on the other, you do not take playful existence seriously enough. Seth
  193. It would have to be Mechanical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steampunk'd!

  194. Data generator, not data viewer by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

    Frankly, I'd like it to be more like the crop of data acquiring bands that we see right now with a small time display, and that's it. I'd like it to capture a lot of health data (HR, distance travelled, etc.) and it should sync with my ANT+ bike equipment (cadence monitor, speed, power, everything) and act as a proxy to my phone and feed my phone data.

    Look, the phone is the thing with the screen that you actually want to look at. A watch face is too small for anything except small bites of information except the time and the date. The new Withings Activite watch actually looks pretty good; no digital display at all. The battery lasts a year. It tells you if you're meeting your daily goals and basically nothing else. But it captures data. THAT'S useful.

    I'm never going to read email on my watch that's coming from my phone; how could that possibly make any sense? MAYBE I wouldn't mind a sort of morse code vibration to it that tells me if I got a notification by text, mail or other.

    Part of the problem with the current crop of smart watches is they haven't thought about what kind of information is appropriate to display on a screen that small. A watch is meant to be GLANCED at, not stared at. Information has to come in digestible, atomic chunks. We can process the relative position of two arms on the face very quickly, but an email or text requires a few seconds of reading, particularly if the font is small or the words have been forced to be wrapped.

    We need to rethink data display before we can make use of these devices. Right now, it's the wrong data for the form factor.

  195. Don't need one by Albert71292 · · Score: 1

    All I need a watch to do is to tell me what time it is, and my $30 Timex does that job just fine!

    --
    "A Bird In The Hand Will Poop On Your Wrist"-Benny Hill,1982
  196. silent vibrate. phone on wrist. chakra. watersport by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

    I liked the idea of that kickstarter waterproof thingy. Would be nice to have a phone on my arm while surfing... Only the boss can then bug me and its not really very waterproof.

    I view it as a phone that you strap to your wrist. I only wear watches for travel. A phone that you strap to your wrist is just a little bit more convenient. You have vibrate better. Its also away from centre of the body so its a little away from your chakra line if you go in for that kind of thing.

  197. swap batteries... what happened? by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

    Why don't people like to swap batteries or devices designed to charge that way any more? Be it smartphones, electric cars or.in this case watches.

  198. Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just why the fuck?!!!

  199. get a few things right by dwpro · · Score: 1

    doing just a few things well might be enough:
    -good timepiece. Obvious clock, but also timer.
    -good flashlight.
    -dead simple integration with select phone apps. Less is more as long as quality is high.
    -be rugged, I don't want to have to baby a thing I wear all the time.
    -look attractive, I'd say mimic non-smart watch look as much as possible.
    -not require me to do a lot to charge the thing or haul around another charger. I would love to see something like kinetic charging.
    -do something novel. Synth display with ambient sound in a club? NFC ring? Just a few ideas done right might put it over the top.

    --
    Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon. -- Susan Ertz
  200. 6-24 months battery time. by funky_vibes · · Score: 1

    I'd say 6 months is the minimum battery time for a device to be called a watch and not a wristband-PC.

  201. 3 main functions plus more by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    My desirable functions:
    1. Blood pressure
    2. Cholesterol
    3. Blood Sugar
    4. Blood Oxygen %
    5. Air quality
    6. Altitude
    7. Velocity
    8. Lux
    9. Wifi
    10. Solar re-charging

    So far everything misses the mark.

    --
    Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!