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Plans Unveiled For Full Scale Replica of the Titanic
Hugh Pickens writes "USA Today reports that Australian billionaire Clive Palmer has unveiled plans for construction of Titanic II, a cruise ship designed as a 'full-scale re-creation' of the Titanic, adding that the ship will be built in China and begin carrying passengers in 2016. The Titanic II will be built 883 feet long – 3 inches longer than the original Titanic – and weigh 55,800 gross tons, according to Palmer, who stopped short of calling the vessel unsinkable. It will carry a maximum of 2,435 passengers and 900 crew members, and include a gymnasium, Turkish baths, a squash court, a swimming pool, a theater and a casino. Like the original ship, there will no TVs aboard and probably no Internet service, Palmer says. Passengers will be able to dress in 1912-style clothing, giving them an opportunity to step back in time, or pretend they are Leo DiCaprio or Kate Winslet, who starred in James Cameron's 1997 blockbuster movie. But industry insiders are skeptical about the commercial viability of the ship. 'Titanic II is a curiosity and may have a draw as a floating hotel, but the idea of spending close to a week at sea on a vessel built around such a thin premise is seen as a stretch, at least by many within the industry,' says Michael Driscoll, editor of industry newsletter Cruise Week. Driscoll adds that he is skeptical about the future of Titanic II in the aftermath of the Carnival Triumph fire and last year's shipwreck of the Costa Concordia off the coast of Tuscany. Paul Kurzman, whose great-grandparents, Isidor and Ida Straus, died on the Titanic, says he has 'no problem' with the construction of Titanic II. 'I don't think they would have had any problem whatsoever, as long as the Titanic II steers clear of icebergs.'"
It's born to sink...
I would have to wonder if they will effectively separate classes on a ship as they did in that time, this hardly seems like it would be a popular concept in modern day, however it is hardly an accurate recreation if they ignore this aspect.
... that this is a bad idea. Alot of people are dreaming of a way out, a way to escape modern society.
This may be a bigger hit than expected. Just a stressless cultural experience. Live music, dancing, shows and participation. Skilled artists, great shows, probobly great food too.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640571/ For those who are interested, the expression on the ship's funnel indicates just how good a film this is.
Zap Brannigan will be the captain
There are some parts of the old ship that most definitely should NOT be replicated on the new one.
Like the lifeboats.
And the engines.
And the bridge (and its navigation equipment and iceburg detection systems)
And the kitchens
There are some parts of the old ship that most definitely should NOT be replicated on the new one.
Like the lifeboats.
And the engines.
And the bridge (and its navigation equipment and iceburg detection systems)
And the kitchens
And the iceberg itself. I don't think I'll be comfortable in a recreation of a scenario that ends in people freezing to death.
What's next, Hindenburg replica?
There are some parts of the old ship that most definitely should NOT be replicated on the new one.
Like the lifeboats.
And the engines.
And the bridge (and its navigation equipment and iceburg detection systems)
And the kitchens
What was wrong with the kitchens?
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For those outside Australia, Clive Palmer is well known looney tunes. He has a habit of making outlandish claims (such as the CIA is funding the Green (hippie) party purely to destabilise our coal industry), I'd be surprised if this ever sees the light of day.
So they built another ship called Titanic number 2,
This time they thought they had a ship to sail the ocean blue,
So they christened it with beer and she sunk right off the peer.
It was sad when the great ship went down.
To the bottoms of the sea.
Uncles and ants many many lost the pants,
It was sad when the great ship went down
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The original design had plenty. They just took a lot off because it looked nicer.
Well, they could at least give the crew binoculars:)
Seriously though, replica ships do make some compromises for modern safety laws. The replica of The Matthew for example has a Diesel engine in there.
I'd prefer it to be called the Olympic - the one of the three that didn't sink.
Here's one thing that will definitely not be replicated:
ticket prices, which apparently started at £3
I think they should reenact the entire voyage more accurately. Just restrict ticket sales to bankers, lawyers, and politicians.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
I never knew the original Titanic didn't have internet access. I thought it was supposed to be a luxury ship!
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What was wrong with the kitchens?
They sank?
I'm sure I've seen that ship on Futurama
"Raise the Titanic? - Woulda been cheaper Lowering the Atlantic.."
- Bottom of the Atlantic being probably where this idea best remains, if only on grounds of good taste alone.
this has been around for months
Old story
They will be; original link is crap; this one has slightly more information:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/26/titanic-2-launch-new-york-replica
and of course...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_2
They had British chefs.
For all intensive porpoises your a bunch of rediculous loosers
Somewhere a millionaire supervillain is making a steerable iceberg!
The iceberg itself is only a problem if the get a full scale model for that one as well... and hit it... :-)
Nevertheless I think that it would be a nice way to travel about for some folks, think of all the goths that are breaking their piggy-banks *right now* to have a cruise their way!
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Paul Kurzman, whose great-grandparents, Isidor and Ida Straus, died on the Titanic, says he has 'no problem' with the construction of Titanic II. 'I don't think they would have had any problem whatsoever, as long as the Titanic II steers clear of icebergs.'
Nonono, this is a replica of the Titanic, it only has to steer clear of the replica of the iceberg that sunk the original. Other than that, it's totally unsinkable. Well, almost - it's a chinese replica after all.
What is the fascination with this silly, sunken Deathtrap?
gives me a terrible, sinking feeling.
Na. He’s cool with it. ;)
Criticism of different passenger service levels is economically insane! Some people want better service during their long and turbulent voyage, and some people want a cheaper ticket. Force everyone into the same service level in the middle, and some people will be disappointed with the quality of the voyage, and some will not be able to afford to go. This regulation would result in there being separate ships: one better quality, one better value, etc. Cost-efficiency will be lost by having several small ships where one would do, which means everyone is worse off. And when you take away people's ability to get what they want for their money, like crossing the ocean in ideal comfort, the incentive to contribute to the economy to make money is greatly diminished, resulting in a tremendous loss for the economy as a whole.
Oh, and many commie Hollywood myths are greatly exaggerated, or just completely made up...
Ships have been sinking since the dawn of history. In spite of the specific famous disasters like Titanic, crossing the Atlantic has become MUCH safer as the result of the Industrial Revolution, which has been made possible by (relatively) free market capitalism. Capitalism is what has created the opportunities in America that those immigrants were seeking, without which they'd have no choice but stay in the inferior conditions they were trying to leave behind. Millions of people have made it across the ocean on ships similar to the Titanic (though smaller); only a few thousand had perished. Why do some people always want to focus on the negative, and make baseless bashing of capitalism the main narrative of every story they tell?!
--libman
Would you take a ride on Titanic 2?
a) No!!!!!
b) Oh yeah!!!!
c) No, but I would pay for CowboyNeal's ticket
The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism
I was wondering when somebody would step up to the challenge and finally build a ship based on that wonderful movie from a few years back: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640571/?ref_=fn_al_tt_9
They had British chefs.
Can we send Jamie Oliver off in the replica please
It would be more accurate to say he comes across as a Looney. Most of his controversy is carefully planned to generate some distraction in the media.
What else give me hope that this is not a hoax is that most of his outlandish claims are only repeated once and then he disappears into the rather. This on the other hand is the fourth time in a year I've heard him talk about this idea.
The Titanic II will be built 883 feet long – 3 inches longer than the original Titanic
At what temperature? A ship this big could not dilate more than 3 inches if the temperature increases?
(I just thought this size difference detail might be pointless...)
So say we all
Don't worry, global warming took care of this one!
So say we all
I'm sure it'll be fine....as long as the front doesn't fall off...
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And the lack of adequate sealing in the lower compartments. It might actually have stayed afloat long enough for help to arrive if they'd been sealed at the top.
Here's a hint: there were other ships in the area and none of them sank due to icebergs.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Well, they could at least give the crew binoculars:)
The lack of binoculars and that affecting the lookouts ability to see the iceberg is a bullshit myth. Even with today's binoculars it's easier to see things in the dark with just bare eyes simply because when you're staring at almost complete darkness with binoculars you have no references you can see when you look around so it's pure luck if you spot something. However, with bare eyes you can easily spot even a tiny difference from the complete darkness ahead (when your eyes have adjusted, which takes 15-20 minutes). Then you use night vision binoculars to figure out what exactly it is that you see. Back then optics were complete shit compared with today's motion stabilized binoculars and nobody back then had even envisioned night vision binoculars.
Because bare eyes are still the best way to notice things in the widest possible field of vision in the dark, ships' lightning is designed very carefully so that none of the lanterns or cabin lights or any other lights are reflected to the bridge windows. If you look closely, you can see that this is the case even with extremely well lit cruise ships at night.
(Yes, I am cruise ship bridge crew.)
The Titanic II is designed by Finnish Deltamarin, who also has been involved with projects like Oasis of the Seas
> to Palmer, who stopped short of calling the vessel unsinkable.
Also like the original Titanic then, which was also never called unsinkable until after it had sunk.
There are some parts of the old ship that most definitely should NOT be replicated on the new one.
Like the lifeboats.
And the engines.
And the bridge (and its navigation equipment and iceburg detection systems)
And the kitchens
And the iceberg itself. I don't think I'll be comfortable in a recreation of a scenario that ends in people freezing to death.
And don't forget the best one of all - a double-hull construction using brittle steel where water, once entered into one of the compartments can then pour over the top into the other compartments!
Having an iceberg in the water doesn't make people freeze to death, though. Being in water cold enough that the icebergs are common, however...
Yup, the name of someone else whose boat journey could have gone better.
Like the original ship, there will no TVs aboard and probably no Internet service
What, the original Titanic only probably had no internet service?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Passengers will be able to dress in 1912-style clothing, giving them an opportunity to step back in time [...]
I am so glad they have given permission to dress as one sees fit. But, Mr Palmer and associates, if I want to dress in 1912-stlye clothing I'd do it with or without your permission, so please stay the fuck out of my personal life and dictation of how I should dress. Thank you. Am I allowed to abstain from shaving?
Millions of people have made it across the ocean on ships similar to the Titanic (though smaller); only a few thousand had perished.
You might want to check your numbers: "It is suspected that of 11 million slaves transported, this represented a third of the slaves from the start. so approximately 22 million slaves died on the slaves ships in the Indies and Americas alone."
Now why after reading all this I am reminded of a certain Futurama episode ?
I honestly find the whole situation really funny.
Now all we need is Iceberg MKII, and we're set.
I have nothing to lose but my bindings.
There are some parts of the old ship that most definitely should NOT be replicated on the new one. Like the lifeboats. And the engines. And the bridge (and its navigation equipment and iceburg detection systems) And the kitchens
And the "watertight" compartments. IIRC, they only went up a couple of decks, so when the water level got high enough, they all flooded.
If you read what I wrote in context, it is obvious that I meant industrial-era steamships "similar to the Titanic", where passengers bought tickets in several service classes. (The last ocean-crossing slave ship to the United States was a two-masted schooner.)
Slavery is the very antithesis of capitalism, which is the economic paradigm that finally ended it.
--libman
Disney's ships hold about 40% more passengers and they are priced at the higher end of the mass market lines. Given operational costs such as fuel are relative fixed it would seem their cruise costs would be significantly higher. The question is is the T2 experience compelling enough to attract capacity crowds and repeat business to be a viable long term business?
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
build a replica of the new york WTC. What are the odds a place will fly into it twice?
There are some parts of the old ship that most definitely should NOT be replicated on the new one.
Olympic, Titanic's twin sister, was in service for 24 years on the North Atlantic run.
I don't see any problem with the engines.
If your complaint is about the inefficacies of coal or the manning requirements and working conditions aboard a coal-fired ship, take it up with Winston Churchill. Naval innovation: From coal to oil
If you are First Lord of the Admiralty. you can make these things happen.
I don't see any problems with the kitchens.
Last Dinner On the Titanic: Menus and Recipes from the Great Liner, in print since 1997, and a particularly fine example of the cookbook as art and history, is far from obsessed with the first class service alone.
will it take an HP lawsuit to keep it afloat?
Titanic II through the north Atlantic with half of its lifeboats.
So, in this Titanic 2.0 we're going to have Gordon Ramsey, Jamie Oliver and Nigella Lawson?
What's that old saying, "A fool and his money are soon partying"?
Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
The junk steel and the compartment divisions that stop short of the ceiling are the bits of authenticity that are most troubling. Seriously though, it's not a remarkable object with the benefit of hindsight and scarcely merits a replica. Maybe he can be persuaded instead to sink some money into architecture and rebuild Frank Lloyd Wright's 1906 Larkin Building in Buffalo, NY. This would rectify a very real loss to history with the added benefit of a significantly decreased iceberg threat. It's a win/ win.
Well, it was designed to withstand a breach of two compartments, but three were breached which exceeded the design spec. It was not intended that they drive it directly into icebergs.
That's a big one right there.
Hell yeah! I want to see them! I'd go on this thing just to poke around its inards. Maybe offer ultra cheap tickets for geeks who just want to check out the technology of the day.
Speaking of which, he's gonna power this sucker with coal? And hire a bunch of guys to shovel it into the furnaces?
Shit! This thing is gonna cost a fortune to operate! And no one will want some coal smoke spewing thing in their ports.
The new ship would have to comply with all the current SOLAS (safety of life at sea) conventions. The loss of the Titanic was the catalysis that started the move towards increased Safety. Since then (mainly reacting to numerous disasters) the conventions have been enhanced over time.
Technological advances will also alter the ship. The Titanic used riveted rather than welded steel for its hull, this reduced the strength and increased the iceberg damage. Modern ships use diesel rather than coal, most of the funnels would be decorative (a tactic used by Disney Cruise Line) and the engine noise would be different. The RADAR, communication equipment, helipad etc. would all change the look of the ship.
The onboard facilities would have to match modern expectations (such as larger cabins with en-suite bathrooms and air conditioning,most cruise ships have cabins with balconies. The very large first class suites (with extra accommodation for servants) may need to be reworked to meet price targets and get enough customers.
In the end I think this will end up as a modern ship with a similar outline to the original Titanic, with some internal areas looking similar. I would like to see a (very) accurate replica, this would be interesting to visit for a short period of time but would be difficult to sell to customers (especially in 2nd and 3rd class).
To be honest Clives recent endeavours appear to be misguided attempts to buy favour with Chinese investors so that he can get his latest IPO off the ground...
1. Buy football (soccer) team but screw it up so badly the team gets expelled from the league.
2. Buy PGA golf course / resort but make such a mockery of the game with his robotic dinosaur and other crazy antics that the course gets removed from the 2013 tour.
3. Contract Chinese shipbuilders to construct replica of HMS Titanic... await spectacular failure.
There has always been something shady about his business deals, from unscrupulous tactics regarding his dealings with competitors and business partners / investors and then there are the increasingly frequent rumours of bribery and corruption.
What makes you think modern cruise ships are any different? A hole in the bottom and the thing nearly capsized in shallow water. Many of those cruise ships cannot use the North Atlantic in winter.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
I assume that future stories about Clive Palmer will refer to him as "Australian former billionaire Clive Palmer." I can't imagine anyone else being foolish enough to invest in this venture.
I mean, if your goal is a meticulous re-creation, why the 3" difference?
Did someone measure wrong and just shrug and say "whups, oh well, it's close"?
-Styopa
Actually, load the the ship with the "top 1%" and sink the bitch fast, no lifeboats.
They sunk #2 making the movie.
Since I've got a materials background I thought that as well, especially since I've spent a lot of time hitting little bits of steel that had been soaked in ice water with a huge hammer and seeing how brittle some are. There definitely is unsuitable steel for ships in the North Atlantic, as seen later when the Liberty ships used the cheapest steel available and repeated earlier mistakes. However after reading Joseph Conrad's newspaper article on the Titanic enquiry (thanks to Project Gutenburg), it's hard to argue with his suggestion that the impact was so large that the toughest steel available would not have helped enough. That's a lot of momentum and the point of impact with the ice would not have been large.
Indeed, global warming may result in more iceburgs.
It is also notoriously inaccurate as competing 24 hour news outlets attempt to out-scoop one another with little, if any, story validation. Early reporting at recent FPS stories like Sandy Hook, Fort Hood, and the Colorado theater included a misidentifed shooter and multiple-shooter inaccuracies. The best intellectual reflection is usually done when variables such as untruths can be left out of one's regression analysis.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
If 1912 is too soon, then 1776 is too soon. Your move Amerifats, we have double your minimum wage and socialism!
I highly doubt with the name "Titanic" permanently etched in people's minds for over a century as a name synonymous with one of the most horrific disasters in history, that anyone would want to sail aboard the Titanic II, even if it avoids icebergs or other dangers. And yet another product built in China? (My God, what's NOT built in China now?) Not proudly made by the British at the Southampton shipyards like the original? That would have better followed the tradition, if that's what all this is about. The British have been proud for centuries of their navy and their shipbuilding. And no TV or Internet on a modern-day cruise ship? How much is this privilege going to cost? No thanks, I'll choose Disney or Royal Caribbean if I ever go on a cruise. FAIL.
I'm going to sign up for a berth in Steerage Class; that looked a lot more entertaining than the upper decks (at least until things got wet).
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I've run the numbers with carbon fiber composites, assuming stock pulltruded shapes for most of the structure. Completely plausible. Using Ceconite instead of doped cotton for the skin will hugely reduce the weight. The top of the structure will be tied to the bottom with kevlar instead of steel, also decreasing weight and deliberately decreasing rigidity. Fuel efficiency has increased greatly; a few turboprops v.s. several recips will also improve the situation.
FAA regulations specifically prohibit hydrogen as a lifting gas for airships. However, ammonia and methante are legal, and might be cost effective. Ammonia is alsio a lot easier to condense. than helium, which really improves recovery and ballast control.
Upper class women were often left at home for long periods while their husbands went off to rule the Empire. The result was a culture of affairs with men of similar social standing, and also of sex with the servants. The latter was in some ways a form of prostitution; in exchange for a clean indoor job involving standing around handing out food and drink and shifting luggage, all board, lodging and clothes provided, a footman was expected to service the mistress and perhaps her friends. In a divorce case (which was really considered scandalous) it was not done to cite other parties lower than one's own social status, i.e. bonking servants didn't count.
Not in all cases obviously, perhaps not in a majority, but the rules have been well documented.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
I hope it's not an EXACT replica. I, for one, would prefer to be on a ship that has watertight compartments all the way to the main deck.
Proverbs 21:19
I'm gonna crash it into the new Titanic.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
Not twins, technically, but two of a set of triplets.
At least it looks like a *ship*, instead of the more typical floating office building with the ass end of a whale glued on top.
They ought to hire the captain of the Costa Concordia for the maiden voyage.
And get him drunk.
Very, Very Drunk.
What would be worthwhile, I think, for entertainment and historical value, is a full scale replica that could sink the same way. So... it'd have to be some sort of submarine-hybrid so as not to ... kill everyone.
Titanic 2 or Chitanic 1 ?
Just ask The Doctor for help.
The Arctic Circle announced today that it was starting construction of 'A Big-Ass Iceberg' intended to explain, once again, the concept of hubris.
The lifeboats should be replicated! 3x over, in fact.
Also I'd put their luxury kitchen up against a modern one any day.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Besides for THAT, "steerage" aboard the Titanic was NICER than the homes most of them came from and for many was their FIRST exposure to running water and flush toilets! That said, the evil of *unregulated* capitalism led the owners to sail with inadequate safety equipment. After the Titanic rules were put in place that made sea travel much safer.
The ship will be unable to get insurance or clearance into most ports without meeting 2013 safety regs, so I doubt they will be recreating the ship THAT exactly.
Not necessarily, but there will be a motorcoach for making out in in the forward cargo hold between some crates of beer from Prussia and sacks of spice from Persia.
Why would the engine NOISE be different. I can't imagine they won't use oil-fired boilers, but the actual engines will still get the same steam as always, or did I miss something?
Slavery is the very antithesis of capitalism, which is the economic paradigm that finally ended it.
There is nothing in the theory of pure capitalism which says it is opposed to slavery. In fact, the only way slavery is ended is when the government makes it illegal, and that is an interference in the free market.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
So, in this Titanic 2.0 we're going to have Gordon Ramsey, Jamie Oliver and Nigella Lawson?
Well, I wouldn't mind going down on her.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
The new ship is planned to have "diesel engines driving azimuth thrusters" rather than steam piston engines.
The QE2 was the last steamship built to cross the Atlantic. She used a steam turbine (rather than piston) engine. Diesel engines replaced her steam equipment after about 20 years of service.
Several years ago I toured a Titanic museum in Valencia, Spain.
The halls were beautiful to behold. The modern cruise ships I've been on
are by comparison rather drab.
No coal driven boilers in the Titanic II. Most of the smokestacks are merely decorations.
I wouldn't expect to see a spark gap wireless except perhaps as a display.
My interest in this thing just dropped to less than zero. The engines would - by FAR - be the coolest part of the whole ship. I went on a short trip aboard a steam powered ship and spent the whole time in the engine room watching the triple-expansion engine. Anyway, steam ships are still being built. Some LNG tankers use the gas that boils off to run the boiler.
iceburg detection systems
Back then they used a pair of carbon based arrays of rods and cones used to detect electromagnetic radiation in a frequency range of 430–790 THz.
Unless they were pirates, many of them only had a single array.
Capitalism is the lack of any organized wealth distribution system. Literally, it's people keeping the fruits of their labor and deciding for themselves what to do with it.
Slavery obviously is a direct antithesis, as slaves cannot keep the fruits of their labors. This disconnect is in part responsible for the increased racial stereotyping and denigration of black people in the south tween the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. It became increasingly necessary for southern slave owners to try to portray black people as sub-human and thus basically too stupid to keep the fruits of their own labor. First came slavery, then came the racial bullshit to rationalize it.
You know every fucking passenger will have to "experience" it, but there's only one prow on this ship, and more people there just ruins the experience.
Maybe they'll use FastPass to reserve your place in line?
"My love, I reserved the King of the World ride at 6pm, followed by a frolic in the back seat of an old clunker!"
So romantic!
Man is the animal that laughs.
And occasionally whores for Karma.
I'd settle for unstinkable.
"Displaces" would be a better word.
I certainly hope he knows the difference
Ah yes:
Heaven - where the police are British, the chefs are French, the lovers are Italian, the cars are made by the Germans, and it's organized by the Swiss.
Hell - where the police are German, the chefs are British, the lovers are Swiss, the cars are made by the French, and it's organized by the Italians.
I am officially gone from
So, what do you think, slashdotters - should I start a kickstart for a project to build a self-moving, steerable iceberg?
mark "the ship sank; get over it"
Compressing 70 million people onto the boat would certainly make it sink fast.
And that passenger who was on all three ships when they crashed/sank, became a pro at handling ship sinkings:
"She had also made sure to grab her toothbrush before leaving her cabin on the Britannic, saying later that it was the one thing she missed most immediately, following the sinking of the Titanic."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Jessop
I think we should execute this man. He is right that we all breathe the same air and he is a big waste.
After dinner, can I go down below deck where the people really party instead of hanging out with bunch of stogy old men with port and cigars discussing the stock market?
mfwright@batnet.com
These people are idiots
we could have a solar power satellite or a moon base for the same money
Oh, yeah, that works?!?!?! NOT!
The old engines with their boilers took up half the ship below the water line. Throw in one of those new ship diesels and you could easily reclaim half that space. This would be much better than the old Titanic.
I'd like those who modded this Insightful to please explain why.
This is going be fiancial headache if he doesn't modify the ship little bit after the novelity wears out. A total replica of the original ship barring safety equipment and navigation. People will either be bored out of there minds, or distruntled
Silly thing is there was a old campfire song about the Titanic II.
Here part of the song.
"They built a ship Titanic to sail the ocean blue
They thought they had a ship that the water'd never go through
She was on her maiden trip, when and iceberg hit the ship
It was sad when the great ship went down"
Chorus
"There's an additional verse to Titanic that our troop sings at the end:
Well they built another ship, the SS Titanic 2.
And they thought they had a ship, that the water could not go through.
So they christened it with beer, And it sank right off the pier.
It was sad when the great ship went down."
Here the link if you care: http://www.macscouter.com/songs/Titanic.asp
Workers cannot keep the fruits of their labour either. They get paid for their labour, but they don't get the fruit of it. If something they made turns out to be very successful, not the employees make the big money, but the employer. So from that logic, employment would be a direct antithesis of capitalism, too.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
What would those £3 be today after adjusting for inflation?
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Is that a fucking joke? Better get James Cameron aboard so he can film the sinking as it happens this time.
Nostalgia is Weird, people look back fondly at HORRIBLE stuff.
How are they supposed to microwave the hot pockets with an old kitchen?
[posted from steerage]
All these comments, and no one suggested building a Costa Concordia II?
There are two Matthew's. The one from Bristol had a diesel, and a GPS fitted to one of the masts. Assumedly, it had some level of proper accomodations - though when it arrived in 1997, the tour area was basically just the main deck. Also, being over a decade ago, memory is a little fuzzy. And I've been drinking. The one here in Newfoundland is locally designed and rather more or less accurate for the time, aside from the lumber (locally sourced, except the masts - they are Douglas fir from British Columbia). That boat has, to my knowledge, been to sea once - to film a documentary about the exploration of the Hudson River; a feat which in itself was difficult to arrange, due to insurance concerns. It is kept in Bonavista as a tourist attraction.
!Equality through palindromes semordnilap hguorht ytilauqE!
Because Clive Palmer, that's why.
Oh and Gina Rinehart.
And Twiggy Forrest.
And anybody other billionaire who wears Hi Viz on TV and blusters on about Jobs For Australians. All the while meaning Profits For Me. And Acshly Is Jobs for Migrants.
Only if it too hits an iceberg and sinks.
The captain instructed that the Diesel be started and then had all the display lights turned on - it must have been quite impressive out there in the Southern Atlantic. Very soon after a one word message arrived: "Sorry".
Auxiliary Diesels on sailing ships can come in very handy at times.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
I agree, I would be much more interested in this project if it was a stationary, exact replica on land that operated as a museum. Of course, it would not have to be totally complete (ie. only a few completed staterooms, with the rest of them just being closed doors). This would allow you to tour all parts of the ship (the bridge, the engine rooms, the Turkish baths, etc.) just as if you were on the real Titanic.
Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow?
Thanks to global warming icebergs are no longer a threat! :-)
Sure enough, the cow costume was hanging up next to the superhero outfit and sailors uniform. (S,Spud)