So....the entertainment isn't compelling, but you feel the need to buy a box to steal it? Lost me on that one. I'm pretty sure 'I don't think Dodge makes a good car so I'm going to steal one' isn't much of an excuse. This sort of inane justification is used all the time by people doing things they know are wrong.
While you can argue 'they weren't going to buy it anyway, $0 lost'...that simply doesn't make it ok...and if it sucks so much, why are you watching/playing/.listening? I keep going back to my main point - the constant ranting that the movies & music suck and that some how makes it ok to steal it and that you _want_ to then steal it. If it was THAT bad...are you some sort of movie masochist? You're consuming and you didn't pay for it - that's theft people. You can twist it anyway you like but you'll never justify it.
Let me sum it up: 'I don't agree with how they produce something, I think it sucks, but I still want to consume it, so I'm going to steal it'. Huh?
If you feel THAT strongly about it...stop paying for cable, stop going to the movies, stop buying DVDs, stop listening to music,, etc. Vote with your money. Trouble is...90% of the people posting here aren't willing to do that - I'm certainly not. I'm sure a bunch of them claim they are dong this...but I simply don't buy it.
I agree with a lot of the points here but for the solution to be 'I'll steal it and pretend I'm righteous for it' is delusional.
There is no peer review anymore. The scientific method is barely given a nod anymore. The crap getting published these days where no one has replicated the results or, worse, if you don't agree with it, you are ostracized is the norm. It goes hand in hand with the un-abashed bias displayed by the media. If you are quipping the latest trend, no one will hold you accountable, much less check your work.
That's a fantasy. There is no renewable energy source capable of providing our energy requirements. Period. There isn't ONE that isn't subject to some kind of sever limitation (like..nighttime....lack of wind) You will need a mountain of eco UNFRIENDLY batteries to even start to pull this off - and the reality is it won't work. There's a reason all those solar companies went out of business despite the money poured into them.
What we can do is supplement our energy with solar/wind/water. That's about it.
And here, let me gum up your 'make energy more expensive' thing. How many poor people do you think that will affect when you drive up the price of 'non eco friendly' power? As usually, what people think is a quick fix has a ton of side effects that come along with it.
As other people have said...I am unwilling to go into the dark ages for this. Especially when most of the people doing the yelling and screaming are flying in private jets and set to make money off the whole thing.
I hope you realize both sides actively engage in this. The only reason it currently favors the Republicans is due to the mount loses the Dems have had in governors and local politicians.
Or are you one of those people that think your side is only bad because the other side is?
Pretty much how I reacted. That's just...stupid. It's really beyond time for tenor to stop and the government to stop giving any kind of support to these dumbass colleges.
This is such crap. I'm no Vista fan, but your post is just silly - an example of Linux FUD - and of course the Linux fanboi's here quickly mod you up - I mean you MUST be telling the truth. Like Micrsoft, why would you lie? Oh right, because people that use linux are BETTER people than people that use Windows.
Whatever.
I'm sure Linux would be just taking off right now if it weren't for big bad Microsoft. QQ some more. Maybe if you people spent HALF your energy improving the desktop instead of bashing Microsoft..oh good god why am I bothering..bunch of losers.
Your analogy is perfect - I usually don't even bother reading the posts anymore./. is a pretty good place to start with interesting stories.
And, as you have pointed out, they have brought much of it on themselves - however, that's simply no excuse for these posts.
Honestly I never come back to the responses, but I really wanted to see what the replies were on this subject. This was a pleasant suprise. And of course I'm getting good at being moderated a troll *smile* since I don't tow the linux/open source line with blinders on.
If ANY other company than M$ had invented this, you'd be having an intersting discussion about it.
If someone involved with linux or open source had invented it, you'd all be gushing.
Instead you see how many assinine jokes you can come up with - actually it was most of you commenting on the same one wannabe rather than even coming up with something of your own.
What a bunch of losers. Get your heads out of yours collective asses.
Kudos to the TWO people that actually posted something worth reading. This site is becoming more and more worthless everytday. If I wanted jokes about everything, I'd subscribe to a mailing list.
EK
Lots of whining. Lots of 'oh god now they will do xxxx'.
Glider is a piece of crap software that allows botting. Botting is very bad (and btw, has very little to do with game genie - perhaps you need to play an MMO) - it screws up game economies, screws up spawn rates and in general is used by people trying to gain an upper hand in one way or another.
I've found blizzard pretty even handed - they pretty much leave the multi-boxers alone as long as they aren't using automated tools.
The glider people basically wanted to make cheating tools 'legal'. Blizzard NOT winning this case would have been really bad. The guy deserves what's coming to him - and I hope he loses the eventual appeal. The took a gamble and they lost. Sort of reminds me of NAMBLA - these kinds of people are SUPPOSE to be hiding. It's a serious issue when they try to come into the light and we don't basish them. Somewhere along the way, we forgot what was right and what was wrong.
People who cheat can't be trusted and pretty much are on the lower rungs of society - consider the mindset required to cheat on a regular basis. It's not the type of person you want to be around, much less have any sort of business deaings with.
I would mention that the 'it's only 4 - there are 20 classes' isn't really correct. Since there are 3 realms, this is cutting down the options in certain realms. Assume that a lot of people playing this game, since it is RVR, are guilds. The guilds are making decisions BEFORE the game comes out which realm they will be. So, not a train smash, but not trivial either that two classes in a realm are missing.
To put it in 'WOW' terms it would be like the warrior class being removed from ONLY the Horde side. Well hey, there are still six classes left..sounds ok unless you were planning to play on a horde team.
Dude, did you actually read the article by gmail? I don't think the way google is working with paypal or ebay puts random email in much danger, unless of course your buddy is forging his email to be from paypal or ebay.
Relax. Just because they are a large successful company doesn't make everything they do automatically bad - though that does seem to be the thought process around here.
EK
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This is a silly place to post a review about a C# book. Most of the readers here are way too narrow minded to post any reasonable discussion about the book (or anything involving M$).
The posts here pretty much prove my point. It's actualy kind of sad - it's obvious some of these people are fairly bright, yet they can't seem to see past their 'elitism' BS - which is anything but.
The review itself should probably be marked 'troll'.
I don't particularly like microsoft - but yep, I do code for a living in C# after having done so in Delphi (way back in delphi 1). And sorry guys, but it's pretty damn cool - the database access stuff needs work but in general, it's a very nice language to work with (and the IDE rocks). And yeah, well, as long as windows land is 90% of the world, that's where I'll be coding. Call me back when linux manages to get some desktop penetration worth talking about.
EK
Debating privacy is like trying to debate the death penalty. There is no point in talking to someone that is exteme on either side - i.e. if you have already set your mind to it that the death penalty is wrong, period, you have no business as part of the discussion when it comes to applying it. Same with the privacy issue - there's not a lot of difference between fingerprints and iris scans - the REAL issue here is that these people want nothing kept on anyone. That's just stupid. A real discussion can only come between people that accept some amount of privacy must be given up in a civilized society. The answer has to lie somewhere been nothing and everything - neither can be the final answer.
I assume you are suggesting, that like in say, CHINA, where nearly everyone has a cell phone and is online that information leads to freedom.
This is that same horsehit line pie-in-the-sky people like to push forth. This idea that the internet is somehow going to 'set people free'. It's crap. It's always been crap.
Putting the internet in schools hasn't corrected the fact we underpay teachers and allow unions to force us to keep sub-standard teachers. The education system is still in serious trouble.
Putting the internet in poor peoples homes hasn't caused them to suddenly get jobs or do better - in fact, it's probably result in them having less money (who do you think answers the get rich schemes, actually pays for porno, etc). This one always made me laugh.
Putting (attempting) the internet in poor countries. Yet another falacy for so many reasons. The biggest problem in these countries is the utter lack of birth control combine with a need to kill one's neighbors for seemly no reason. I wish we could require everyone to travel outside the country and get some perspective - most of you have zero idea or understanding of how different people view things around the world. We Americans are extemely guilty of simply ignoring that most of the world simply doesn't think like we do, espeically when it comes to the middle east - but that's another rant for another time. We watch too much TV and think THAT'S how it works - the comments to the parent post show it. 'Gee, if they had the internet they could report the warlord movements.' IF, and that's a HUGE if, you could manage to get some sort of wireless, wired or SAT connection to these people, how long do you think before it became a death sentence to simply have a computer of any kind? Do you not watch the news? We can't get these people to eat the food we give them because it's works better for Islam if everyone over there thinks we are trying to poison them.
Take the blinders off people - the internet isn't gonna solve the worlds ills. PEOPLE need to solve the worlds ills and we are still too busy trying to kill each other off. The level of greed and corruption at the UN should be enough of a warning sign for you to realize how bad it is. But it's easier to fire up that assinine american idol or to make off hand comments about how bush has caused all the problems in the world than to actual do anything about it.
Does this means you guys finally have to own up to the fact that the only reason Macs (and, therefore Linux) seem so secure is due to lack of desktop penetration? That is EXACTLY what we are seeing here. Macs start getting more popular, Macs start getting the attention of the malware writers, suddenly Macs have more vulnerablities than everyone thought (sort of like FireFox).
My issue with all this is the false sense of security most of you push. The idea that open source is more secure because more people look at it (which is just hog wash). The idea that mac os was more secure because we'd never seen a large virus outbreak. Same thing with Linux. It's all an illusion and you do everyone a disservice but suggesting otherwise.
None of these, as the Mac zealots are starting to see, actually prove that the systems are more secure. It just makes you feel better to say it.
Let me be clear - sure I'm a windows users - it's where I make my money (again, because, duh, it has the most market/desktop penetration) I have no illusions about it - I don't think windows is awesome - in fact, I think it sucks. I don't really give a crap what platform I work on as long as I can make a good living. So save the accusations of fan-boism. It's not my views that have that problem.
NONE of this software is safe once it's required to maintain any sort of backward compatiblity and/or needs to work easily for computer illiterate people. THAT is the reality that most people around here like to ignore.
You also said it was 20 years ago. 20 years ago it wasn't happening everywhere like it is today - racist professors, left wing/right wing nut professors, etc. They were there, but the kept their mouths shut. Now it's become ok to act like they do and preach what they do - and I mean public pressure, not censorship.
I was really picking on the colleges, which are mostly liberal - and indoctrinated by mostly liberal professors and deans which allow that kind of crap to go on at all.
But yes, both sides engage in it. I'm conservative but I have no illusions that republicans play anymore fair.
Bottm line - both sides suck. We are so screwed.
EK
There's something wrong with him saying 'Your opponent will get his message out'. Are we suppose to be about free speech? Why is it that liberals never seem to understand that free speech doesn't mean you get to shout down your opponents. BTW, I'd be just as irritated by this if the conservatives were doing it -and they probably are. However, this sort of thing has LONG been a major part of liberal actions - you pretty much can't voice a conservative idea at a college without be shouted down - I find it very amusing that the 'bastions of new ideas' think it's ok to suppress speech.
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So....the entertainment isn't compelling, but you feel the need to buy a box to steal it? Lost me on that one. I'm pretty sure 'I don't think Dodge makes a good car so I'm going to steal one' isn't much of an excuse. This sort of inane justification is used all the time by people doing things they know are wrong.
While you can argue 'they weren't going to buy it anyway, $0 lost'...that simply doesn't make it ok...and if it sucks so much, why are you watching/playing/.listening? I keep going back to my main point - the constant ranting that the movies & music suck and that some how makes it ok to steal it and that you _want_ to then steal it. If it was THAT bad...are you some sort of movie masochist? You're consuming and you didn't pay for it - that's theft people. You can twist it anyway you like but you'll never justify it.
Let me sum it up: 'I don't agree with how they produce something, I think it sucks, but I still want to consume it, so I'm going to steal it'. Huh?
If you feel THAT strongly about it...stop paying for cable, stop going to the movies, stop buying DVDs, stop listening to music,, etc. Vote with your money. Trouble is...90% of the people posting here aren't willing to do that - I'm certainly not. I'm sure a bunch of them claim they are dong this...but I simply don't buy it.
I agree with a lot of the points here but for the solution to be 'I'll steal it and pretend I'm righteous for it' is delusional.
My 0.02
EK
There is no peer review anymore. The scientific method is barely given a nod anymore. The crap getting published these days where no one has replicated the results or, worse, if you don't agree with it, you are ostracized is the norm. It goes hand in hand with the un-abashed bias displayed by the media. If you are quipping the latest trend, no one will hold you accountable, much less check your work.
Actually it's anything but clear WHAT is causing it. That's the fallacy in all of this.
That's a fantasy. There is no renewable energy source capable of providing our energy requirements. Period. There isn't ONE that isn't subject to some kind of sever limitation (like..nighttime....lack of wind) You will need a mountain of eco UNFRIENDLY batteries to even start to pull this off - and the reality is it won't work. There's a reason all those solar companies went out of business despite the money poured into them.
What we can do is supplement our energy with solar/wind/water. That's about it.
And here, let me gum up your 'make energy more expensive' thing. How many poor people do you think that will affect when you drive up the price of 'non eco friendly' power? As usually, what people think is a quick fix has a ton of side effects that come along with it.
As other people have said...I am unwilling to go into the dark ages for this. Especially when most of the people doing the yelling and screaming are flying in private jets and set to make money off the whole thing.
I hope you realize both sides actively engage in this. The only reason it currently favors the Republicans is due to the mount loses the Dems have had in governors and local politicians.
Or are you one of those people that think your side is only bad because the other side is?
If you think the Dems aren't also wanting to do this, you're politically blind.
ARGHHHHH Knew that didn't look right when I typed it. NICE!
I figured they are going to piss off someone with some real money that's going to put a price on their heads. I wish I had the money to do it.
If I watch a trailer and feel like 'well...just saw the whole movie'...I simply don't see it. Usually ever.
Pretty much how I reacted. That's just...stupid. It's really beyond time for tenor to stop and the government to stop giving any kind of support to these dumbass colleges.
I would put forth that Hitler had more to do with the defeat of Nazi Germany by engaging the Russians in the first place....
If I had mod points, I'd mod you down.
This is such crap. I'm no Vista fan, but your post is just silly - an example of Linux FUD - and of course the Linux fanboi's here quickly mod you up - I mean you MUST be telling the truth. Like Micrsoft, why would you lie? Oh right, because people that use linux are BETTER people than people that use Windows.
Whatever.
I'm sure Linux would be just taking off right now if it weren't for big bad Microsoft. QQ some more. Maybe if you people spent HALF your energy improving the desktop instead of bashing Microsoft..oh good god why am I bothering..bunch of losers.
EK
Your analogy is perfect - I usually don't even bother reading the posts anymore. /. is a pretty good place to start with interesting stories.
And, as you have pointed out, they have brought much of it on themselves - however, that's simply no excuse for these posts.
Honestly I never come back to the responses, but I really wanted to see what the replies were on this subject. This was a pleasant suprise. And of course I'm getting good at being moderated a troll *smile* since I don't tow the linux/open source line with blinders on.
EK
You guys should simply be ashamed of yourself.
If ANY other company than M$ had invented this, you'd be having an intersting discussion about it.
If someone involved with linux or open source had invented it, you'd all be gushing.
Instead you see how many assinine jokes you can come up with - actually it was most of you commenting on the same one wannabe rather than even coming up with something of your own.
What a bunch of losers. Get your heads out of yours collective asses.
Kudos to the TWO people that actually posted something worth reading. This site is becoming more and more worthless everytday. If I wanted jokes about everything, I'd subscribe to a mailing list.
EK
Lots of whining. Lots of 'oh god now they will do xxxx'.
Glider is a piece of crap software that allows botting. Botting is very bad (and btw, has very little to do with game genie - perhaps you need to play an MMO) - it screws up game economies, screws up spawn rates and in general is used by people trying to gain an upper hand in one way or another.
I've found blizzard pretty even handed - they pretty much leave the multi-boxers alone as long as they aren't using automated tools.
The glider people basically wanted to make cheating tools 'legal'. Blizzard NOT winning this case would have been really bad. The guy deserves what's coming to him - and I hope he loses the eventual appeal. The took a gamble and they lost. Sort of reminds me of NAMBLA - these kinds of people are SUPPOSE to be hiding. It's a serious issue when they try to come into the light and we don't basish them. Somewhere along the way, we forgot what was right and what was wrong.
People who cheat can't be trusted and pretty much are on the lower rungs of society - consider the mindset required to cheat on a regular basis. It's not the type of person you want to be around, much less have any sort of business deaings with.
EK
I would mention that the 'it's only 4 - there are 20 classes' isn't really correct. Since there are 3 realms, this is cutting down the options in certain realms. Assume that a lot of people playing this game, since it is RVR, are guilds. The guilds are making decisions BEFORE the game comes out which realm they will be. So, not a train smash, but not trivial either that two classes in a realm are missing.
To put it in 'WOW' terms it would be like the warrior class being removed from ONLY the Horde side. Well hey, there are still six classes left..sounds ok unless you were planning to play on a horde team.
EK
Dude, did you actually read the article by gmail? I don't think the way google is working with paypal or ebay puts random email in much danger, unless of course your buddy is forging his email to be from paypal or ebay.
Relax. Just because they are a large successful company doesn't make everything they do automatically bad - though that does seem to be the thought process around here.
EK
This is a silly place to post a review about a C# book. Most of the readers here are way too narrow minded to post any reasonable discussion about the book (or anything involving M$).
The posts here pretty much prove my point. It's actualy kind of sad - it's obvious some of these people are fairly bright, yet they can't seem to see past their 'elitism' BS - which is anything but.
The review itself should probably be marked 'troll'.
I don't particularly like microsoft - but yep, I do code for a living in C# after having done so in Delphi (way back in delphi 1). And sorry guys, but it's pretty damn cool - the database access stuff needs work but in general, it's a very nice language to work with (and the IDE rocks). And yeah, well, as long as windows land is 90% of the world, that's where I'll be coding. Call me back when linux manages to get some desktop penetration worth talking about.
EK
Debating privacy is like trying to debate the death penalty. There is no point in talking to someone that is exteme on either side - i.e. if you have already set your mind to it that the death penalty is wrong, period, you have no business as part of the discussion when it comes to applying it. Same with the privacy issue - there's not a lot of difference between fingerprints and iris scans - the REAL issue here is that these people want nothing kept on anyone. That's just stupid. A real discussion can only come between people that accept some amount of privacy must be given up in a civilized society. The answer has to lie somewhere been nothing and everything - neither can be the final answer.
EK
Don't be silly. Most people here think Bush is Stalin. They have their heads so far up their asses they haven't seen daylight in a long time.
I assume you are suggesting, that like in say, CHINA, where nearly everyone has a cell phone and is online that information leads to freedom.
This is that same horsehit line pie-in-the-sky people like to push forth. This idea that the internet is somehow going to 'set people free'. It's crap. It's always been crap.
Putting the internet in schools hasn't corrected the fact we underpay teachers and allow unions to force us to keep sub-standard teachers. The education system is still in serious trouble.
Putting the internet in poor peoples homes hasn't caused them to suddenly get jobs or do better - in fact, it's probably result in them having less money (who do you think answers the get rich schemes, actually pays for porno, etc). This one always made me laugh.
Putting (attempting) the internet in poor countries. Yet another falacy for so many reasons. The biggest problem in these countries is the utter lack of birth control combine with a need to kill one's neighbors for seemly no reason. I wish we could require everyone to travel outside the country and get some perspective - most of you have zero idea or understanding of how different people view things around the world. We Americans are extemely guilty of simply ignoring that most of the world simply doesn't think like we do, espeically when it comes to the middle east - but that's another rant for another time. We watch too much TV and think THAT'S how it works - the comments to the parent post show it. 'Gee, if they had the internet they could report the warlord movements.' IF, and that's a HUGE if, you could manage to get some sort of wireless, wired or SAT connection to these people, how long do you think before it became a death sentence to simply have a computer of any kind? Do you not watch the news? We can't get these people to eat the food we give them because it's works better for Islam if everyone over there thinks we are trying to poison them.
Take the blinders off people - the internet isn't gonna solve the worlds ills. PEOPLE need to solve the worlds ills and we are still too busy trying to kill each other off. The level of greed and corruption at the UN should be enough of a warning sign for you to realize how bad it is. But it's easier to fire up that assinine american idol or to make off hand comments about how bush has caused all the problems in the world than to actual do anything about it.
Denial..it ain't just a river in africa.
BK
Does this means you guys finally have to own up to the fact that the only reason Macs (and, therefore Linux) seem so secure is due to lack of desktop penetration? That is EXACTLY what we are seeing here. Macs start getting more popular, Macs start getting the attention of the malware writers, suddenly Macs have more vulnerablities than everyone thought (sort of like FireFox).
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My issue with all this is the false sense of security most of you push. The idea that open source is more secure because more people look at it (which is just hog wash). The idea that mac os was more secure because we'd never seen a large virus outbreak. Same thing with Linux. It's all an illusion and you do everyone a disservice but suggesting otherwise.
None of these, as the Mac zealots are starting to see, actually prove that the systems are more secure. It just makes you feel better to say it.
Let me be clear - sure I'm a windows users - it's where I make my money (again, because, duh, it has the most market/desktop penetration) I have no illusions about it - I don't think windows is awesome - in fact, I think it sucks. I don't really give a crap what platform I work on as long as I can make a good living. So save the accusations of fan-boism. It's not my views that have that problem.
NONE of this software is safe once it's required to maintain any sort of backward compatiblity and/or needs to work easily for computer illiterate people. THAT is the reality that most people around here like to ignore.
My
EK
You also said it was 20 years ago. 20 years ago it wasn't happening everywhere like it is today - racist professors, left wing/right wing nut professors, etc. They were there, but the kept their mouths shut. Now it's become ok to act like they do and preach what they do - and I mean public pressure, not censorship.
For what it's worth I think both sides suck.
I was really picking on the colleges, which are mostly liberal - and indoctrinated by mostly liberal professors and deans which allow that kind of crap to go on at all.
But yes, both sides engage in it. I'm conservative but I have no illusions that republicans play anymore fair.
Bottm line - both sides suck. We are so screwed.
EK
There's something wrong with him saying 'Your opponent will get his message out'. Are we suppose to be about free speech? Why is it that liberals never seem to understand that free speech doesn't mean you get to shout down your opponents. BTW, I'd be just as irritated by this if the conservatives were doing it -and they probably are. However, this sort of thing has LONG been a major part of liberal actions - you pretty much can't voice a conservative idea at a college without be shouted down - I find it very amusing that the 'bastions of new ideas' think it's ok to suppress speech.
We are so screwed.
EK