I was just thinking, if you were born, or came into this World suddenly but with a fully developed intellect, there would be so much to take in in one go, it might stress that intellect to breaking point. A baby has years to get to grips with the World so it is a slow, cumulative affair starting with simple concepts and working up. I assume an AI would just suddenly 'Be' and have to take this all in in one go, instantly.
Obviously if it had to develop like a child does this would be OK.
Has anyone considered the effects on the AI of actually realising it's intelligent? Unlike an organism (Human baby, say) it will not realise this over a protracted period, and may not be able to cope with the concept at all, particularly if it realises that there are other intelligences (us?) which are fundamentally different to itself. It's quite possible that it will go mad as soon as it knows it's intelligent and considers all the implications and ramifications of this.
The best just got better....Great news! I've been a regular user of Opera for a good few years now, firstly on XP and more recently on Ubuntu, and it does everything I want (and a load of things I actually don't need as well) very impressively. Is there a downside to Opera? Well only the very occassional website that doesn't work properly, and that's always the website's fault. No problem...if they can't be bothered to code a decent website, I can't be bothered to view it.
I believe the reason the CIS countries like it so much is it's ability to handle Cyrillic script.
A terminally sick patient in Hospital will often have a 'DNR' (Do Not Resucitate) notice placed over the bed to avoid them suffering needlessly. Shouldn't the same be done for I.E?
Also I suspect it suffers from the 'Dalek problem'...it can't climb stairs. I assume that this is not too much of a problem as most acetylene cylinders are probably kept at ground level. Certainly if it keeps Firefighters safer, it must be a good thing.
"...and the use of Windows on nuclear submarines" Talk about your Blue Screen of Death
It could be worse:
Sub Commander: "Enemy vessel has locked on and fired anti-sub missile. Impact in 10 seconds. Immediate Anti-missile counter-strike authorised. Target enemy vessel with Tomahawk."
Sub operator: "Incoming target acquired and locked on. Tomahawk ready for launch authorisation."
Computer: "Automatic update has replaced current program with I.E 8 as default. Computer re-booting. This will take 30 seconds"
Sub crew: "S**t!"
As a professional educator, please allow me to call this statement horseshit.
No, it's not, thank you A/C
Please kindly look at the age demographics of the study and you will notice that younger people, those closest to their education, score consistently higher in belief in scientific theories such as evolution. The older/further out you get from education, the more likely you are to be making things up.
The same way Worlds greatest Music' polls always have something from the last 5 yers at No 1. People forget!
While I will deeply agree with you about politicians screwing with education, you are also completely removing the culpability of "scientist" to adequately explain exactly what it is they do and how they think to those who are not.
Who's fault is that?
"The public will never catch up with the level of appreciation and understanding scientists have of these matters unless their underlying knowledge and education is adequate, and right now it clearly isn't."
News flash: Scientists don't understand what OTHER scientist do in fields unrelated to theirs.Quantum physicists do not "understand" everything about Macrobiotic evolutionary theory. They believe in the SYSTEM by which those conclusions were reached. They have to because the matters of complexity are so great you'd have to get a PhD or MS in each field to really "understand" them.
If I ask your average pharmacist (a "low level" scientific intensive profession) to read "Origin of the Species" they will pretty much be able to map out Darwin's argument. If I ask your average pharmacist to read "Efficient context-dependent model building based on clustering posterior distributions for non-coding sequences" that same person might have a harder time understanding what the hell is going on.
True, but someone ignorant of scientific METHOD is always going to be at far more of a disadvantage
Their is a great deal of reason for this shift in language use (specialization, complexity of knowledge, etc.) let me be clear I am not faulting that but there has to be some accountability on the part of scientist themselves for the losses that come along with those gains. I see scientist who teach in great big lecture halls (at the university level) who care more about their lab and getting funding then they do about spreading scientific knowledge through teaching. When I see some other amorphous entity like "the media" or "education" blamed for a general lack of scientific knowledge it sets my teeth a grinding.
Exactly, it is the fault of scientists, politicians and so-called professional educators
The disparity between the views of scientists and 'the public' is another illustration of the generally poor quality of education. This is evident here in the UK, and perhaps even more in the US, where the base quality of education is often questionable, and often the subject matter is 'taught' in a far from sensible way. Just look at the debate over how (or even if) evolution should be taught. The populace are never going to be able to participate in informed debate from a position of ignorance, but that is exactly what is currently happening. This whole mess is made even worse by those in power (politicians) putting their own agendas before fact and truth, and by putting short term (political) considerations above the long term good (see the 'debate' raging over global warming for a good example of this). The public will never catch up with the level of appreciation and understanding scientists have of these matters unless their underlying knowledge and education is adequate, and right now it clearly isn't.
I see no evidence that any intelligence other than human can compose original, coherent posts to an online forum. So with over 95 percent confidence, posts at or above Score:1 are written by humans.
I see no evidence that any intelligence...posts to an online forum.
I love the movies, but they can induce numbness to the posterior if watched more than one at a time.
Yep ! I did all three ( extended versions no less ) in one day once, morning session - part 1, afternoon - part 2 and part 3 in the evening. Take a break after each disc and eat between the parts, with 'head-refreshments' along the way and it's do-able, if you're a sad nerd like me. Was it worth it? Hell, yes! A long day in middle earth is an experience never to be forgotten.
Not in your opinion, A/C but there are a lot of us out here who think it is, and with good cause. It's been my browser of choice for some years now. Nothing's perfect, and if you like a legion of add-ons you'll go for Firefox, if you like 'shiny-new' you'll go Chrome and if you like a load of $hit you'll use I.E. Howevr, if you just want a fast, safe, fully customisable, reliable browser packed with useful features (like I do) Opera is the clear winner.
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I was just thinking, if you were born, or came into this World suddenly but with a fully developed intellect, there would be so much to take in in one go, it might stress that intellect to breaking point. A baby has years to get to grips with the World so it is a slow, cumulative affair starting with simple concepts and working up. I assume an AI would just suddenly 'Be' and have to take this all in in one go, instantly. Obviously if it had to develop like a child does this would be OK.
Has anyone considered the effects on the AI of actually realising it's intelligent? Unlike an organism (Human baby, say) it will not realise this over a protracted period, and may not be able to cope with the concept at all, particularly if it realises that there are other intelligences (us?) which are fundamentally different to itself. It's quite possible that it will go mad as soon as it knows it's intelligent and considers all the implications and ramifications of this.
Why not just 'engineer' them to have no brain at all, just like the guy who suggested this!
I'm going to apply for a 'facial configuration' patent: A nose with two eyes above and to either side, with a mouth beneath. Then I'll SUE YOU ALL!
Give me a good, fast, stable browser with a UI that isn't flashy, cluttered or distracting.
No problem, just go here.
The best just got better....Great news! I've been a regular user of Opera for a good few years now, firstly on XP and more recently on Ubuntu, and it does everything I want (and a load of things I actually don't need as well) very impressively. Is there a downside to Opera? Well only the very occassional website that doesn't work properly, and that's always the website's fault. No problem...if they can't be bothered to code a decent website, I can't be bothered to view it.
I believe the reason the CIS countries like it so much is it's ability to handle Cyrillic script.
A terminally sick patient in Hospital will often have a 'DNR' (Do Not Resucitate) notice placed over the bed to avoid them suffering needlessly. Shouldn't the same be done for I.E?
I can't spell but it doesn't matter....Google knows what I meant!
One late ./er did better than this. When Roland Piquepaille passed away, he posted a comment on his own Obituary thread.
NOW THAT'S CREEPY!
Since XP can access the Internet, I don't see the point in putting Linux on your netbook either.
To get rid of the XP ?
Also I suspect it suffers from the 'Dalek problem'...it can't climb stairs. I assume that this is not too much of a problem as most acetylene cylinders are probably kept at ground level. Certainly if it keeps Firefighters safer, it must be a good thing.
Because I don't wear my phone?
This guy does!
1972 Pong. Up/down, Left/right, Time. 3 dimensions!
"...and the use of Windows on nuclear submarines" Talk about your Blue Screen of Death
It could be worse:
Sub Commander: "Enemy vessel has locked on and fired anti-sub missile. Impact in 10 seconds. Immediate Anti-missile counter-strike authorised. Target enemy vessel with Tomahawk."
Sub operator: "Incoming target acquired and locked on. Tomahawk ready for launch authorisation."
Computer: "Automatic update has replaced current program with I.E 8 as default. Computer re-booting. This will take 30 seconds"
Sub crew: "S**t!"
Dare I ask, breeding with other cats, or with humans? The last thing we need is a human-cat hybrid. They'd probably make the purrfect advisary.
Catwoman!
As a professional educator, please allow me to call this statement horseshit.
No, it's not, thank you A/C
Please kindly look at the age demographics of the study and you will notice that younger people, those closest to their education, score consistently higher in belief in scientific theories such as evolution. The older/further out you get from education, the more likely you are to be making things up.
The same way Worlds greatest Music' polls always have something from the last 5 yers at No 1. People forget!
While I will deeply agree with you about politicians screwing with education, you are also completely removing the culpability of "scientist" to adequately explain exactly what it is they do and how they think to those who are not.
Who's fault is that?
"The public will never catch up with the level of appreciation and understanding scientists have of these matters unless their underlying knowledge and education is adequate, and right now it clearly isn't." News flash: Scientists don't understand what OTHER scientist do in fields unrelated to theirs.Quantum physicists do not "understand" everything about Macrobiotic evolutionary theory. They believe in the SYSTEM by which those conclusions were reached. They have to because the matters of complexity are so great you'd have to get a PhD or MS in each field to really "understand" them. If I ask your average pharmacist (a "low level" scientific intensive profession) to read "Origin of the Species" they will pretty much be able to map out Darwin's argument. If I ask your average pharmacist to read "Efficient context-dependent model building based on clustering posterior distributions for non-coding sequences" that same person might have a harder time understanding what the hell is going on.
True, but someone ignorant of scientific METHOD is always going to be at far more of a disadvantage
Their is a great deal of reason for this shift in language use (specialization, complexity of knowledge, etc.) let me be clear I am not faulting that but there has to be some accountability on the part of scientist themselves for the losses that come along with those gains. I see scientist who teach in great big lecture halls (at the university level) who care more about their lab and getting funding then they do about spreading scientific knowledge through teaching. When I see some other amorphous entity like "the media" or "education" blamed for a general lack of scientific knowledge it sets my teeth a grinding.
Exactly, it is the fault of scientists, politicians and so-called professional educators
Seriously, what are they going to do? Fine him if he ever goes to England?
Yes, eventually, after he's been arrested and no doubt held on remand (effectively in prison) while the legal niceties are sorted out.
The disparity between the views of scientists and 'the public' is another illustration of the generally poor quality of education. This is evident here in the UK, and perhaps even more in the US, where the base quality of education is often questionable, and often the subject matter is 'taught' in a far from sensible way. Just look at the debate over how (or even if) evolution should be taught. The populace are never going to be able to participate in informed debate from a position of ignorance, but that is exactly what is currently happening. This whole mess is made even worse by those in power (politicians) putting their own agendas before fact and truth, and by putting short term (political) considerations above the long term good (see the 'debate' raging over global warming for a good example of this). The public will never catch up with the level of appreciation and understanding scientists have of these matters unless their underlying knowledge and education is adequate, and right now it clearly isn't.
I, for one, welcome our artificially intelligent overlords!
I see no evidence that any intelligence other than human can compose original, coherent posts to an online forum. So with over 95 percent confidence, posts at or above Score:1 are written by humans.
I see no evidence that any intelligence...posts to an online forum.
Fixed that for you !
Wow...almost nothing but offtopic and redundant posts so far.
Well, this is /. What do you expect?
I've just been modded 'Offtopic' for this </gobsmacked>.
Bet THIS post is 'Redundant' </cynicism>
Wow...almost nothing but offtopic and redundant posts so far.
Well, this is /. What do you expect?
It'll be fine after SP3, just in time for it to be replaced by a bloated, road-hogging monstrosity.
I love the movies, but they can induce numbness to the posterior if watched more than one at a time.
Yep ! I did all three ( extended versions no less ) in one day once, morning session - part 1, afternoon - part 2 and part 3 in the evening. Take a break after each disc and eat between the parts, with 'head-refreshments' along the way and it's do-able, if you're a sad nerd like me. Was it worth it? Hell, yes! A long day in middle earth is an experience never to be forgotten.
in my opinion opera is already the best browser
...but it's not.
Not in your opinion, A/C but there are a lot of us out here who think it is, and with good cause. It's been my browser of choice for some years now. Nothing's perfect, and if you like a legion of add-ons you'll go for Firefox, if you like 'shiny-new' you'll go Chrome and if you like a load of $hit you'll use I.E. Howevr, if you just want a fast, safe, fully customisable, reliable browser packed with useful features (like I do) Opera is the clear winner.