Assuming that you (the AC) are WillyHill, you are becoming as disturbing of a thought as Twitter himself is.
The links above are circumstantial evidence of the ownership of each account.
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Epic shill threads
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Are you building a civil case over this? Or are you going to start a Not-For-Profit Twitter Reduction Organization, Or are you just trying to invoke some sort of Slashdot method to delimitate user accounts, perhaps a mandatory subscription? Is there a newsgroup, or a website in the making?
You can't stop "Twitters" by imposing more rules, you just make them more devious, and by creating such "following" of him/it/them you are solidifying his position as The Most Infamous Troll On Slashdot and most likely if not certainly making him more eager to continue, notice how he seems to be picking up the pace with new accounts? there's what like 8 or so vvillyhill/wiIIyHiII/wlliyhill accounts now... you are feeding the problem, unless of course, you actually are the problem, and a little more adept shilling method, pretend to combat your own trolling or something.
How hard is it to mod him down, or to roll the wheel on your mouse past his comments?
lol... I "switched"... my first "Web browser" was Netscape Navigator (around 1994, Mac) then when I got my own PC, it was Windows, so IE, followed shortly by Linux (uh, wasnt IE), but basically IE, bit of NetNav (2000), then Opera, then Pheonix came out, switched to that strictly, till it became Firefox, then went back to (and remain with) Opera.
However, I have IE7, and FireFox 3.01 (along with Maxthon, and K-Meleon) installed along side Opera 9.52, there's the odd time I may need one of them for something, even if its just to verify some Browser War debate.
Personally, I like to know what they are all 'up to' and am interesting in hearing about new ones, even if they are for OS's I dont use anymore, or ever (ie: Mac, Solaris, etc).
I dont have any reason to leave Opera at the moment, it works for me great, but that doesnt mean its a blind faith, and I shun all other browsers as inferior, nor do I consider a web browser that might be better at something as being heresy to 'my beloved browser'.
But maybe I missed your point, or possibly im just rambling to myself.
Yeah, but it made some sense then, because it was limited to within the University(s), so if someone within the University wanted to know that stuff, they could just get it otherwise regardless of Facebook.
I think they either A: jumped the gun and didn't really think about that when they went mainstream, hence the countless amounts of security issues since, or B: intentionally left it that way, and probably get royalties from various companies, or plan to divulge the information at a alter time if they find it prosperous enough to their business.
Im not sure im following, but I think you mean the "Add Friends" thing? Where you add your e-mail, and that e-mails password so it can log into MSN/Yahoo/Gmail and pick up your contact lists?
If so, I completely agree, I found that terrifying actually, talk about mining, they must have millions of users real e-mail and passwords for multiple chat and networking clients. Which means they could possibly know everyone you talk to online, and then six-degrees of separation.
It asks you to do that just after you "establish" your account, at least it did a year or so ago, as if it was mandatory almost, I think I just killed my browser to get out of it...Fuck That!...
Frankly, I despise Facebook with a passion, however, that doesn't stop me from having it on my SpeedDial, and visiting it multiple times a day, but its limited to random information, and I don't add any "Apps".
Plus the fact that its Google Indexed, you can search for -Your Name- in Google (among other search engines) and find your own Facebook Profile even if yours isn't participating (ie you didn't Opt-Out) in the indexing nonsense because surely at least one of your contacts has that enabled. Try it, "Bob Smith" if you have a Facebook account it'l probably show up in the 20 results of Google, especially if you have a unique name, or you added your middle name etc.
I clear my account (strip all information) then Disable it for a few weeks ever 2 months or so, till its been removed from various Indexes, then added shit again... sorta like a sick game of hide-and-seek.
I was wondering about that, I was thinking your security flaw was as simple as someone saying: "Hey, you left your iron on!" then they just rummage through your shit while yer distracted.
"It's ok, im completely secure as long as my iron is off"
Slight difference, and Facebook doesn't do any extensive verification either, so any e-mail address will do. Still amazes me that people don't have a dedicated "trash" e-mail for stuff like this.
That said, one of the most disconcerting things is when you first sign up, is that to a novice/n00b/idiot a lot of people would assume:
Email: _____ Password: _____ [+] Remember Me
"oh, it wants my e-mail address, oh and now it wants my password" as if they had to use their e-mail password as the login, like MS Passport, or Yahoo, or GMail, or even a legitimate one.
They have since (I signed up about a year ago) changed the sign-up though and added Create Password, as well as a "password strength" (Weak/Med/Strong) thing.
But yes, even when you are not signed in, I imagine they track the cookie (or possibly any number of Java "you need this to do this" crap on the site). PLUS, if you sign in without checking the [+] Remember Me, close the site, and go back to it, it signs you in automatically, and I'm not sure how long that takes to 'expire' if ever, it only removes it if you sign-out before leaving, otherwise you sign in automatically.
My issue is that "No one cares when Opera or Safari have a similar release. [or Internet Explorer, or Konqueror...]" but they do when its Firefox.
Opera 9.51 went through a few RC's and a final and is on 9.52RC/Snapshot, Safari has gone through a couple *.*# and a whole #.0 in the last few months for Mac, Win and Mobile...
But no, Firefox 3.1 Sub-Alpha-Hypothetical-Possibility-Beta-RC Build 3219 hits front page and we're supposed to eat a cracker drink some wine and pray to it, but oh wait, we're all for competition and innovation, as long as its Firefox Vs. Firefox.
Doubtful, when they first started, and had the invite-only thing, there was a lot of sites that would give away account-invites to boost their own traffic/advertise, and even invites being auctioned off, plus you could give your invites to yourself, and breed invites, get our 5 invites, create 5 accounts, get 20 more invites...
It was all just marketing, if they started off with just a free-for all, it wouldn't have made as much hooplah as it did, "common man, gimme an invite" - "you gotta a Gmail account?" - "I'll do your homework for an invite" etc, etc...
Any spammer would have ended up with as many accounts as they wanted anyways, I think the increase is mostly because of that bug/feature mentioned yesterday here on Slashdot, about being able to get peoples real names (if yer stupid enough to have done so) from Gmail accounts.
Well, China manufactures it, but 90% or more of the products are probably made for US companies...
Although... China's Shipping Routes means it has to go through Panama, and since Panama now actually has control over it...
Though controversial within the U.S., the treaty led to full Panamanian control effective at noon on December 31, 1999, and control of the canal was handed over to the Panama Canal Authority (ACP).
And China is the main controller of the shit that ships through it...
Before this handover, the government of Panama held an international bid to negotiate a 25-year contract for operation of the canal's container shipping ports (chiefly two facilities at the Atlantic and Pacific outlets), which was won by the firm Hutchison Whampoa, a Hong Kong-based shipping concern whose owner, Li Ka Shing, is the wealthiest man in China.
"Best way to modernize any country is to connect them to the internet..."
What? everyone in a country could have dedicated high-speed internet, but it wouldnt mean that country would become "modernized" unless it has the money and/or knowhow and/or capability of modernizing the country, which leads into the latter end of your comment, if Cuba has better access to outside sources, it will create a demand for "western" modernization (ie: useless shit, lol) and therefore the US could supply them with said useless shit, granted Cuba isn't that big, but business is business just like Cola and Tobacco companies do in third-world countries, get them hooked, reel in the line... what it may do is make the population less faithful in their government/culture/etc...
The keybindings arent bindable, at least not via typical settings, but perhaps through a custom CSS or something.
There is just the option of enable/disable in Settings - Discussions - Viewing.
As for WSAD (I prefer to go Up/Down/Left/Right when describing) changing it to EDSF or something else can be a good idea for some things, however, I use my pinky for Shift/Caps/Tab... when Shift usually means Fast/Slow, and Tab is for Scores/Mission or whatever... changing it to EDSF makes it harder to reach those, as well as #1 which is often used for Primary weapon, or Preset Msg 1 or whatever... but, like you, thats just my preference.
No, he was probably actually thinking of DRM, or at least not just adware... free to download, illegal to modify, free to download provided you give us your name, address, serial number, hair color, preferred deodorant, how many people live in your household, etc... or keyloggers, and the likes to monitor whats installed and how, when and why you use it... stuff that can be sold to advertising agencies...
Plus, "buddy" applications, like (god damn mother fucking) "Toolbars", or continuing some sort of monopoly "free, but requires [X] application/driver/graphic-card"...etc etc...
And enough people will go for that, because there are enough game-addicts to support it, those people that just have to have the latest game/demo/update/mod/etc...
Besides, how long would it be before there was "you can download any game for free from our collection of developers as long as you pay us $9.99 a month"... those already exists, and they would end up creating their own lock-ins, kinda like hollywood and the studios and unions, eventually there's just 3 with hundreds of sub-we-arent-them-studios. Then some "little guy" comes out with a truely free game, and everyone goes "wait, but this doesnt work on PSXii-Box Network, it isnt accepted by SuperGameChatIM++, and can only use half of the controls of my FunMaxController because thats copyright/proprietary/toofuckingcomplicated/no-open API/etc...
France Seeks To Push 3-Strikes Law Across Europe...pushing it as an amendment to the pan-European Telecoms Package. This amendment has the potential to impose 3-strikes across Europe, not just in France.
Across, doesn't mean all of Europe, it simply means it stretches across Europe, sorta like the Trans-Canada Highway... goes across Canada, however, it doesn't reach all the Provinces, and actually only covers a really small area of it land-wise.
Indeed, I was hoping they would be a little more quick with it, but I think you are right in saying "long term plan" was about right, although I imagine that if its anything like Slashdot (et al) that trying to find people to blaspheme and create Windows stuff is a problem.
Although, im not sure where the 20MB's came from now anyways (I responded before even looking).. but after looking the installer is only 1.6MB... which isnt too bad, seeing how many languages it supports, and the fact it may even come with 2 different compilers aswell...
Latest version, fine... but whats the 20MB's then? Is the EULA, and ReadMe all in some PDF or something, with some giant flash-based introduction nonsense while it installs... with music?
Like hedwards said, it shouldn't be 20MB, and it shouldn't even be 2MB, a generic Online-Install for a single OS can be as small as 150KB or so and still cover most of the major languages/etc.
Yes, I included it in my example, because its fairly popular, and relatively small (ie: similar to Firefox)
"Advertising works so you have to be against it. Gotcha."
Did I say to abolish all advertising? No, what i said was, when you are attempting to add a new record (or break an existing one) that you shouldn't be able to advertise, if said advertising can effect the outcome of the record, in this case there is a direct correlation between advertising, and the amount of downloads. The Guinness wasnt designed as an advertising mechanism.
"So, according to yor/. UID..."
No, I avoided it because I didn't want to participate in a publicity stunt. Slashdot, is not a "publicity stunt", furthermore, I've been coming to Slashdot since 1999, UID has nothing to do with how long I have been a "member" or how old I may be, or anything.
Yes, probably more than half the time actually, because 90% of the reviews are about as accurate as Slashdot comments, or as accurate as that percentage I just made up.
When it comes to hardware, I may work a bit better, however with the diversity of hardware that exists, that one comment that you missed saying "but don't EVER purchase this and install it if you have an [Insert Product]!" might be exactly what you need to know and the rest is just fluff. The same goes for a lot of software, and you might miss out on that "great find" by that one guy that said "its ok, but it's less efficient/configurable/easy and more glitchy/resource hog than [Product X]"
That only works if the government/country isn't involved in the production or distribution of the product, and sells the pirated software outside of the country, otherwise the money would just loop...
Some guy downloads/steals a shipment/etc of a product from another country, and sells it to his neighbour, then the money is coming from, and go to the same country.
Same guy, same product, sells it back to the country he stole it from, increasing the pirated countries wealth, but that only really works if the company it was stole from either allows it, or doesn't have the staff/etc to track it because it would have to be "boxed" software for that to work, and it would be pretty easy to find hundreds of boxes all matching the serials of the stolen ones, then the legal shit ensues, and the company takes back 10x the amount that was pirated, or finds a "friendly" company inside the pirating country, and gets them to inflict some other form of financial suppression, or assassination, or war, etc...
Simply downloading, and uploading, doesn't make anyone money except the ISP's...
You could pirate, and reverse engineer a piece of software, then sell that as another product.
China is a good example, because China isn't in the G8, so... this is a meeting of the countries being pirated against China, among others, because our governments haven't figured out how to make a profit from piracy, mainly because 90% (assumption) of the software created is owned by the countries in the G8, even if its written/duplicated/printed/boxed/sent out from a country that isn't in the G8.
Yes, I have, but what the hell does that have to do with software piracy?
No matter how much software one government stole from another country... it wouldnt make them any money, how the hell do you sell the material? its all labeled, branded, familliar, and can be compaired.
You wanna steal some potatoes, so be it, no one can say "those were once my potatoes, i grew them" without being laughed at because it can't be proven without spending a bunch of money doing some geneology on potatoes or something, and by then they are eaten or rotten, and your example is a wartime thing ("Privateers were an accepted part of naval warfare from the 16th to the 19th centuries.") which wouldnt matter now anyways, in the 20th Century, fuck rules and laws, they just blatently attacked the opposing forces vessels, and now its illegal (which is fucking retarded as far as im concerned, its war FFS) to do so thanks to WW2.
But honestly, if you think they are making money off of piracy, explain to me how they are doing this, I never said they were incapable, just that currently they havent figured it out, hence
Piracy, they haven't figured out how to profit from this yet...
Yes I did... WinAmp and MSN dont "automatically" update, they just inform you of new versions (until Vista anyways) and you have the option of downloading which isnt an upgrade, but a replacement, im not sure about iTunes, as I avoid it with a 10^10 foot pole, just added it because of its popularity.
I dont really see how thats different from what Mozilla/Firefox did, as it advertised beforehand for about a month or more with the "I will participate" sorta nonsense aswell, and then for almost 2 weeks about exactly what day it would happen, and even the fact that they were "going for the world record" which, I don't really seem fair... because unlike 99.9% of the other records where advertising just means people will watch, advertising this actually effects the outcome of the record, it should have been a secret, until after.
It was all just a marketing ploy, now they can advertise "we are the only Web browser in the Guiness Book Of World Records"... so what, I actually avoided downloading it, because of that.
You aren't looking at it right (as in from their perspective)...
The government(s) make money off of the rest, but they don't make any money off of piracy...
- More energy consumption, means the government makes more money off of taxing the energies.
- War, and thus weaponry, is the most profitable thing for any government, weapons manufacturing (fuel, planes, bullets, bombs, a day * x days), the support of the citizens, and afterwards you get to plant your flag, round up some slaves, and make even more money.
- Violent crime, that's just another war, they don't want to stop it, they want it perpetuated, make it look like they are doing something, but do nothing.
- Inflation, (and the so-called 'Federal' Reserves) this, actually doesn't make them as much money as they could, however, most of the governments aren't aware of this fact, however, inflation makes the banks a FUCKload of money, and those banks have their ties (control) to the governments preventing them from stopping the inflation, et al.
- Piracy, they haven't figured out how to profit from this yet, because its a black whole, unlike the rest where it increases someones wealth, piracy takes money, and vaporizes it... or changes it to another countries monetary format, the only realy direct within-the-same-country profit that is indirectly made is selling hard drives, and video-cards to the people who pirate...so, this is what the summit will be about, either how to stop it, or how to profit from it.
Bitch at them, get some friends, get out your pens and paper, or your carboard and jiffys... etc etc... or maybe your stones, or your weapons... however you see fit...
I look to see this record broken with subsequent launches, as more and more people have access to the internet, and as Mozilla gains more share.
What? only Mozilla related products can break the record?
WinAmp, has probably beaten this record, possibly more than once. I bet MSN Live beat it (when they forced the upgrade over MSN 7.5) iTunes, probably has, and probably a lot of other software that has notifications for new versions. The problem is, you have to actually participate, and get the Guiness people to come watch, and set up special shit on your servers, so I dont really see that many companies clamoring to beat the record, it was just a publicity stunt.
Slashdot Mirror
LOL...
Assuming that you (the AC) are WillyHill, you are becoming as disturbing of a thought as Twitter himself is.
The links above are circumstantial evidence of the ownership of each account.
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Epic shill threads
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Are you building a civil case over this? Or are you going to start a Not-For-Profit Twitter Reduction Organization, Or are you just trying to invoke some sort of Slashdot method to delimitate user accounts, perhaps a mandatory subscription? Is there a newsgroup, or a website in the making?
You can't stop "Twitters" by imposing more rules, you just make them more devious, and by creating such "following" of him/it/them you are solidifying his position as The Most Infamous Troll On Slashdot and most likely if not certainly making him more eager to continue, notice how he seems to be picking up the pace with new accounts? there's what like 8 or so vvillyhill/wiIIyHiII/wlliyhill accounts now... you are feeding the problem, unless of course, you actually are the problem, and a little more adept shilling method, pretend to combat your own trolling or something.
How hard is it to mod him down, or to roll the wheel on your mouse past his comments?
Google: "isp common carriers" returns...
The Uncommon Carrier
A Quick Wiki returns...
Network neutrality in the United States
A Quick Slashy returns...
Cable Internet Service Not Common Carrier
Find your own sources from there and agree or disagree.
lol... I "switched"... my first "Web browser" was Netscape Navigator (around 1994, Mac) then when I got my own PC, it was Windows, so IE, followed shortly by Linux (uh, wasnt IE), but basically IE, bit of NetNav (2000), then Opera, then Pheonix came out, switched to that strictly, till it became Firefox, then went back to (and remain with) Opera.
However, I have IE7, and FireFox 3.01 (along with Maxthon, and K-Meleon) installed along side Opera 9.52, there's the odd time I may need one of them for something, even if its just to verify some Browser War debate.
Personally, I like to know what they are all 'up to' and am interesting in hearing about new ones, even if they are for OS's I dont use anymore, or ever (ie: Mac, Solaris, etc).
I dont have any reason to leave Opera at the moment, it works for me great, but that doesnt mean its a blind faith, and I shun all other browsers as inferior, nor do I consider a web browser that might be better at something as being heresy to 'my beloved browser'.
But maybe I missed your point, or possibly im just rambling to myself.
Yeah, but it made some sense then, because it was limited to within the University(s), so if someone within the University wanted to know that stuff, they could just get it otherwise regardless of Facebook.
I think they either A: jumped the gun and didn't really think about that when they went mainstream, hence the countless amounts of security issues since, or B: intentionally left it that way, and probably get royalties from various companies, or plan to divulge the information at a alter time if they find it prosperous enough to their business.
Im not sure im following, but I think you mean the "Add Friends" thing? Where you add your e-mail, and that e-mails password so it can log into MSN/Yahoo/Gmail and pick up your contact lists?
If so, I completely agree, I found that terrifying actually, talk about mining, they must have millions of users real e-mail and passwords for multiple chat and networking clients. Which means they could possibly know everyone you talk to online, and then six-degrees of separation.
It asks you to do that just after you "establish" your account, at least it did a year or so ago, as if it was mandatory almost, I think I just killed my browser to get out of it...Fuck That!...
Frankly, I despise Facebook with a passion, however, that doesn't stop me from having it on my SpeedDial, and visiting it multiple times a day, but its limited to random information, and I don't add any "Apps".
Plus the fact that its Google Indexed, you can search for -Your Name- in Google (among other search engines) and find your own Facebook Profile even if yours isn't participating (ie you didn't Opt-Out) in the indexing nonsense because surely at least one of your contacts has that enabled. Try it, "Bob Smith" if you have a Facebook account it'l probably show up in the 20 results of Google, especially if you have a unique name, or you added your middle name etc.
I clear my account (strip all information) then Disable it for a few weeks ever 2 months or so, till its been removed from various Indexes, then added shit again... sorta like a sick game of hide-and-seek.
I was wondering about that, I was thinking your security flaw was as simple as someone saying: "Hey, you left your iron on!" then they just rummage through your shit while yer distracted.
"It's ok, im completely secure as long as my iron is off"
Facebook uses a e-mail address as the login.
Slight difference, and Facebook doesn't do any extensive verification either, so any e-mail address will do. Still amazes me that people don't have a dedicated "trash" e-mail for stuff like this.
That said, one of the most disconcerting things is when you first sign up, is that to a novice/n00b/idiot a lot of people would assume:
Email: _____
Password: _____
[+] Remember Me
"oh, it wants my e-mail address, oh and now it wants my password" as if they had to use their e-mail password as the login, like MS Passport, or Yahoo, or GMail, or even a legitimate one.
They have since (I signed up about a year ago) changed the sign-up though and added Create Password, as well as a "password strength" (Weak/Med/Strong) thing.
But yes, even when you are not signed in, I imagine they track the cookie (or possibly any number of Java "you need this to do this" crap on the site). PLUS, if you sign in without checking the [+] Remember Me, close the site, and go back to it, it signs you in automatically, and I'm not sure how long that takes to 'expire' if ever, it only removes it if you sign-out before leaving, otherwise you sign in automatically.
"...it might be easier to get the Mac software running under Linux "
I for one, welcome our browser caring overlords.
My issue is that "No one cares when Opera or Safari have a similar release. [or Internet Explorer, or Konqueror...]" but they do when its Firefox.
Opera 9.51 went through a few RC's and a final and is on 9.52RC/Snapshot, Safari has gone through a couple *.*# and a whole #.0 in the last few months for Mac, Win and Mobile...
But no, Firefox 3.1 Sub-Alpha-Hypothetical-Possibility-Beta-RC Build 3219 hits front page and we're supposed to eat a cracker drink some wine and pray to it, but oh wait, we're all for competition and innovation, as long as its Firefox Vs. Firefox.
(stomps off)
Doubtful, when they first started, and had the invite-only thing, there was a lot of sites that would give away account-invites to boost their own traffic/advertise, and even invites being auctioned off, plus you could give your invites to yourself, and breed invites, get our 5 invites, create 5 accounts, get 20 more invites...
It was all just marketing, if they started off with just a free-for all, it wouldn't have made as much hooplah as it did, "common man, gimme an invite" - "you gotta a Gmail account?" - "I'll do your homework for an invite" etc, etc...
Any spammer would have ended up with as many accounts as they wanted anyways, I think the increase is mostly because of that bug/feature mentioned yesterday here on Slashdot, about being able to get peoples real names (if yer stupid enough to have done so) from Gmail accounts.
Well, China manufactures it, but 90% or more of the products are probably made for US companies...
Although... China's Shipping Routes means it has to go through Panama, and since Panama now actually has control over it...
Though controversial within the U.S., the treaty led to full Panamanian control effective at noon on December 31, 1999, and control of the canal was handed over to the Panama Canal Authority (ACP).
And China is the main controller of the shit that ships through it...
Before this handover, the government of Panama held an international bid to negotiate a 25-year contract for operation of the canal's container shipping ports (chiefly two facilities at the Atlantic and Pacific outlets), which was won by the firm Hutchison Whampoa, a Hong Kong-based shipping concern whose owner, Li Ka Shing, is the wealthiest man in China.
So... yeah, uhm... I misspelt China...
"Best way to modernize any country is to connect them to the internet..."
What? everyone in a country could have dedicated high-speed internet, but it wouldnt mean that country would become "modernized" unless it has the money and/or knowhow and/or capability of modernizing the country, which leads into the latter end of your comment, if Cuba has better access to outside sources, it will create a demand for "western" modernization (ie: useless shit, lol) and therefore the US could supply them with said useless shit, granted Cuba isn't that big, but business is business just like Cola and Tobacco companies do in third-world countries, get them hooked, reel in the line... what it may do is make the population less faithful in their government/culture/etc...
But, I could be wrong...
The keybindings arent bindable, at least not via typical settings, but perhaps through a custom CSS or something.
There is just the option of enable/disable in Settings - Discussions - Viewing.
As for WSAD (I prefer to go Up/Down/Left/Right when describing) changing it to EDSF or something else can be a good idea for some things, however, I use my pinky for Shift/Caps/Tab... when Shift usually means Fast/Slow, and Tab is for Scores/Mission or whatever... changing it to EDSF makes it harder to reach those, as well as #1 which is often used for Primary weapon, or Preset Msg 1 or whatever... but, like you, thats just my preference.
Similar thing it does in games...
W = Up
S = Down
A = Out Of Thread and/or Last
D = Into Thread and/or Next
No, he was probably actually thinking of DRM, or at least not just adware... free to download, illegal to modify, free to download provided you give us your name, address, serial number, hair color, preferred deodorant, how many people live in your household, etc... or keyloggers, and the likes to monitor whats installed and how, when and why you use it... stuff that can be sold to advertising agencies...
Plus, "buddy" applications, like (god damn mother fucking) "Toolbars", or continuing some sort of monopoly "free, but requires [X] application/driver/graphic-card"...etc etc...
And enough people will go for that, because there are enough game-addicts to support it, those people that just have to have the latest game/demo/update/mod/etc...
Besides, how long would it be before there was "you can download any game for free from our collection of developers as long as you pay us $9.99 a month"... those already exists, and they would end up creating their own lock-ins, kinda like hollywood and the studios and unions, eventually there's just 3 with hundreds of sub-we-arent-them-studios. Then some "little guy" comes out with a truely free game, and everyone goes "wait, but this doesnt work on PSXii-Box Network, it isnt accepted by SuperGameChatIM++, and can only use half of the controls of my FunMaxController because thats copyright/proprietary/toofuckingcomplicated/no-open API/etc...
Semantics,
France Seeks To Push 3-Strikes Law Across Europe ...pushing it as an amendment to the pan -European Telecoms Package. This amendment has the potential to impose 3-strikes across Europe, not just in France.
Across, doesn't mean all of Europe, it simply means it stretches across Europe, sorta like the Trans-Canada Highway... goes across Canada, however, it doesn't reach all the Provinces, and actually only covers a really small area of it land-wise.
Indeed, I was hoping they would be a little more quick with it, but I think you are right in saying "long term plan" was about right, although I imagine that if its anything like Slashdot (et al) that trying to find people to blaspheme and create Windows stuff is a problem.
Although, im not sure where the 20MB's came from now anyways (I responded before even looking).. but after looking the installer is only 1.6MB ... which isnt too bad, seeing how many languages it supports, and the fact it may even come with 2 different compilers aswell...
Latest version, fine... but whats the 20MB's then? Is the EULA, and ReadMe all in some PDF or something, with some giant flash-based introduction nonsense while it installs... with music?
Like hedwards said, it shouldn't be 20MB, and it shouldn't even be 2MB, a generic Online-Install for a single OS can be as small as 150KB or so and still cover most of the major languages/etc.
Ooh, ooh, I can do that too!
"Because of its popularity?"
Yes, I included it in my example, because its fairly popular, and relatively small (ie: similar to Firefox)
"Advertising works so you have to be against it. Gotcha."
Did I say to abolish all advertising? No, what i said was, when you are attempting to add a new record (or break an existing one) that you shouldn't be able to advertise, if said advertising can effect the outcome of the record, in this case there is a direct correlation between advertising, and the amount of downloads. The Guinness wasnt designed as an advertising mechanism.
"So, according to yor /. UID..."
No, I avoided it because I didn't want to participate in a publicity stunt. Slashdot, is not a "publicity stunt", furthermore, I've been coming to Slashdot since 1999, UID has nothing to do with how long I have been a "member" or how old I may be, or anything.
...or focus on a few outliers?
Yes, probably more than half the time actually, because 90% of the reviews are about as accurate as Slashdot comments, or as accurate as that percentage I just made up.
When it comes to hardware, I may work a bit better, however with the diversity of hardware that exists, that one comment that you missed saying "but don't EVER purchase this and install it if you have an [Insert Product]!" might be exactly what you need to know and the rest is just fluff. The same goes for a lot of software, and you might miss out on that "great find" by that one guy that said "its ok, but it's less efficient/configurable/easy and more glitchy/resource hog than [Product X]"
That only works if the government/country isn't involved in the production or distribution of the product, and sells the pirated software outside of the country, otherwise the money would just loop...
Some guy downloads/steals a shipment/etc of a product from another country, and sells it to his neighbour, then the money is coming from, and go to the same country.
Same guy, same product, sells it back to the country he stole it from, increasing the pirated countries wealth, but that only really works if the company it was stole from either allows it, or doesn't have the staff/etc to track it because it would have to be "boxed" software for that to work, and it would be pretty easy to find hundreds of boxes all matching the serials of the stolen ones, then the legal shit ensues, and the company takes back 10x the amount that was pirated, or finds a "friendly" company inside the pirating country, and gets them to inflict some other form of financial suppression, or assassination, or war, etc...
Simply downloading, and uploading, doesn't make anyone money except the ISP's...
You could pirate, and reverse engineer a piece of software, then sell that as another product.
China is a good example, because China isn't in the G8, so... this is a meeting of the countries being pirated against China, among others, because our governments haven't figured out how to make a profit from piracy, mainly because 90% (assumption) of the software created is owned by the countries in the G8, even if its written/duplicated/printed/boxed/sent out from a country that isn't in the G8.
Yes, I have, but what the hell does that have to do with software piracy?
No matter how much software one government stole from another country... it wouldnt make them any money, how the hell do you sell the material? its all labeled, branded, familliar, and can be compaired.
You wanna steal some potatoes, so be it, no one can say "those were once my potatoes, i grew them" without being laughed at because it can't be proven without spending a bunch of money doing some geneology on potatoes or something, and by then they are eaten or rotten, and your example is a wartime thing ("Privateers were an accepted part of naval warfare from the 16th to the 19th centuries.") which wouldnt matter now anyways, in the 20th Century, fuck rules and laws, they just blatently attacked the opposing forces vessels, and now its illegal (which is fucking retarded as far as im concerned, its war FFS) to do so thanks to WW2.
But honestly, if you think they are making money off of piracy, explain to me how they are doing this, I never said they were incapable, just that currently they havent figured it out, hence
Piracy, they haven't figured out how to profit from this yet...
Yes I did... WinAmp and MSN dont "automatically" update, they just inform you of new versions (until Vista anyways) and you have the option of downloading which isnt an upgrade, but a replacement, im not sure about iTunes, as I avoid it with a 10^10 foot pole, just added it because of its popularity.
I dont really see how thats different from what Mozilla/Firefox did, as it advertised beforehand for about a month or more with the "I will participate" sorta nonsense aswell, and then for almost 2 weeks about exactly what day it would happen, and even the fact that they were "going for the world record" which, I don't really seem fair... because unlike 99.9% of the other records where advertising just means people will watch, advertising this actually effects the outcome of the record, it should have been a secret, until after.
It was all just a marketing ploy, now they can advertise "we are the only Web browser in the Guiness Book Of World Records"... so what, I actually avoided downloading it, because of that.
You aren't looking at it right (as in from their perspective)...
The government(s) make money off of the rest, but they don't make any money off of piracy...
- More energy consumption, means the government makes more money off of taxing the energies.
- War, and thus weaponry, is the most profitable thing for any government, weapons manufacturing (fuel, planes, bullets, bombs, a day * x days), the support of the citizens, and afterwards you get to plant your flag, round up some slaves, and make even more money.
- Violent crime, that's just another war, they don't want to stop it, they want it perpetuated, make it look like they are doing something, but do nothing.
- Inflation, (and the so-called 'Federal' Reserves) this, actually doesn't make them as much money as they could, however, most of the governments aren't aware of this fact, however, inflation makes the banks a FUCKload of money, and those banks have their ties (control) to the governments preventing them from stopping the inflation, et al.
- Piracy, they haven't figured out how to profit from this yet, because its a black whole, unlike the rest where it increases someones wealth, piracy takes money, and vaporizes it... or changes it to another countries monetary format, the only realy direct within-the-same-country profit that is indirectly made is selling hard drives, and video-cards to the people who pirate...so, this is what the summit will be about, either how to stop it, or how to profit from it.
Bitch at them, get some friends, get out your pens and paper, or your carboard and jiffys... etc etc... or maybe your stones, or your weapons... however you see fit...
I look to see this record broken with subsequent launches, as more and more people have access to the internet, and as Mozilla gains more share.
What? only Mozilla related products can break the record?
WinAmp, has probably beaten this record, possibly more than once. I bet MSN Live beat it (when they forced the upgrade over MSN 7.5) iTunes, probably has, and probably a lot of other software that has notifications for new versions. The problem is, you have to actually participate, and get the Guiness people to come watch, and set up special shit on your servers, so I dont really see that many companies clamoring to beat the record, it was just a publicity stunt.