I hope the judge throws them out on their forporate ear. I hope he also fines them as much as possible, makes them pay the student's court costs, puts them in public stocks, and orders their pants set on fire.
I can dream.
Copyright infringement is wrong. But this suit is reprehensible.
Well, no. At least, not by a mostly third world country. They got cell phones. They got nukes. They got spaceflight. Maybe one day they'll be able to [political dissent censored].
Before unix's talk there was a VMS command (phone?) that was similar. There were all sorts of similar things at universities - (one was started by a pysch prof, of all folks, at GA Tech).
This is why I had zero interest in SCO even before the current evil was unleashed. I've used exactly one SCO system in my life. It was slow, way behind the times, and just different enough (Xenix legacy?) to be a major pain. It made NeXtStEp look downright perfect, from a Unix administration standpoint. On the other hand, it was as solid and steady as a rock.
Granted, it was a movie set papier mache rock, balanced on a precipice, and it kept falling off, so that it was never up when you needed it, and it was always losing little bits, but at least it was like a rock.
Yeah, I was thinking Darl needs to be on the list. Sorta like Hitler belongs on the list of those who influenced the 20th century. Granted, Darl isn't as powerful and evil a despot as Hitler was, but he seems to be trying.
Most places I've worked that had an actual system used either gnats (two of those places I did a lot of custom work on gnats, esp. for the web front end), or a Remedy (or similar) based solution.
Gnats is a pain to work with. The commercial solutions tend to be expensive. Bugzilla is OK, but not quite what we wanted. So we still use email here.
But I'm going to check into RT and maybe Double Chocolate Latte.
Although... "I got RT installed and working...in only about three hours" (from memory). Yikes!
Since Windows provides a way to disable the driver, is Windows in violation of the DMCA? Is Bill Gates the leader of a secret anti-DMCA cult? Will the DMCA and RIAA Stormtroopers, with BATF support, reduce the Redmon Compound to a smoking rubble heap? Tune in next week, same Bat-time, same Bat-/.page!
But seriously, the DMCA is so vague and absurd, that one probably *could* hold MS accountable for this. Or the Linux providers accountable for not including the ability to auto-install and require DRM-compliant drivers.
I'm going back to my vinyl collection.
Anyone want to buy a non-DRM-compliant, analog CD player? Cash only, unmarked bills, no receipt, we meet in a dark spot we both agree on, with faces covered, wearing gloves...
And those ways tend to be big, slow, and/or complex to configure. With better hardware support, you end up with smaller and faster. Configuration? Some of that will still be up to the software designers. But when that's the main task, instead of an "oh, yeah. we need this, too", it has a better chance of being done well.
I get emails all the time from strangers. Emails I want - I run FAQs and websites for a newsgroup, as well as a memorial website for a musician, etc. So I *expect* email from strangers. But I hate spam, commercial or otherwise.
Authenticating the From address would be much better. If the transport software would check that the From address somehow mated with the connecting host, or failing that of the received-by lines matched up, 80%+ of the spam I get would never even make it to the filetsr.
Maybe because that's supposed to be the closest thing to what the official 1.0 release will be? You know, the thing that's for real users, not developers, hackers, experimenters, and folks with way too much time on their hands? People who just want to see a video, not solve open source puzzles?
SGI has, indeed, had to show their data in public. You can go get the two versions of the kernel and compare them yourself. I'd be willing to bet SGI will happily provid eyou their source of belief the code is PD, and it should be quite easy to research. There are plenty of resources available for that.
This is 180 degrees out of phase with the SCO approach, which has been well documented...
Other than being more charitable to SCO than I would, this pretty well sums up what I got from the letter.
If it weren't such a poorly handled case, I could almost believe M$ was pulling the strings at SCO, as part of their "destroy Linux" campaign. But one thing M$ *does* have is business sense. Another is lawyers. SO I can't believe they own this one.
Whether they're been egging things on is another thing completely.
I've worked on all sides of this fence, including alongside a headhunter when I worked for a firm whose parent firm was a recruiter. I've personally known of 5 good recruiting firms, and 5 bad ones. Of the 5 good ones, two were very small and gave up when high tech went bust, two downsized but are still there, and one I'm not sure about, since I haven't kept up after moving half way across the USA.
I have no idea about the 5 bad ones - I never paid any attention to them again.
Come to think of it, there were also a couple of so-so firms. I didn't keep up with them, either.
I haven't seen any correlation between size or longevity and how well a recruiter does - it all comes down to connections, personality, integrity and business sense. Some have plenty of all of these while others have less or none. Those with the least in these areas tend not to last. 8^/
Shop recruiters like you would jobs or employees. And don't be afraid to try some of the new web-based ASPs like hire.com . (I'm not refering to huge bulletin boards that are worse than the shotgun approach (tactical nukes?))
[I used to work for hire.com, but left for personal reasons. I haven't checked lately, but last time I looked, they still provided lots of value.]
If you pay $500 for a trillion verified email addresses, and your three spam campaigns get you only 12 buyers at $19.95, you not only have lost money, you probably can't afford to change your phone number, which you need by then.
But if you can get, say, 500 buyers at $19.95, you not only made money and bought the phone number of a dead drug kingpin everyone is afraid to call, but you have a lot more incentive to keep spamming.
-Miles
[look for my email about how you can build wealth reselling my vanilla cookies!]
Freedom of speech is just that. It is *not* a right to force others to hear you, to interrupt others, to invade their homes, etc.
You want to stand on teh corner and wave a sign about how great your product is, fine. You wanna tell me all about it when I call you or walk into your store, fine. You wanna sell ads to the magazines, fine. But you have *no right* to demand that I listen to you, or to barge into my home, place of business, etc. Period.
I'd really like to know what kind of diligence Ren did in this case. VCs (at least, those with any brains) don't just take a company's word for it. They look into it *in depth*. I've worked for a variety of startups, and that's how things work (gee, just like you'd expect them to work!)
So at least one of three things seems to have happened:
1) Ren didn't do very good diligence. 2) SCO flat out lied and presented some major-league bogus evidence. 3) Ren believed as SCO appears to believe - that they could get away with this farce.
While I can't speak for the author, I didn't take this as a vi ad, per se (and vi is my editor or choice for almost everything!)
I took it as an endorsement of vi *and similarly simple yet powerful editors*. Things that let you just do the job. Things that don't try to do a bunch of extra stuff. Things that don't encourage you to major in the minors.
I use vi because it just works, and is generally available on everything I use. With the exception of Windows, I don't even have to chase it down; it's just there. If I used VMS, I guess I'd have to chase vi down- or maybe I'd just revert to EDT. I've learned way too many editors over the years, and forgotten most of them. vi is nearly ubiquititous, easy and powerful, so I use it.
But if joe, or nEdIt, or whatever works for you, great. But for serious writing- no matter how complex- keep it simple.
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I hope the judge throws them out on their forporate ear. I hope he also fines them as much as possible, makes them pay the student's court costs, puts them in public stocks, and orders their pants set on fire.
I can dream.
Copyright infringement is wrong. But this suit is reprehensible.
Well, no. At least, not by a mostly third world country. They got cell phones. They got nukes. They got spaceflight. Maybe one day they'll be able to [political dissent censored].
Before unix's talk there was a VMS command (phone?) that was similar. There were all sorts of similar things at universities - (one was started by a pysch prof, of all folks, at GA Tech).
Nah. This was probably just the warning that they're about to go after Apache and OpenSSH users next.
This is why I had zero interest in SCO even before the current evil was unleashed. I've used exactly one SCO system in my life. It was slow, way behind the times, and just different enough (Xenix legacy?) to be a major pain. It made NeXtStEp look downright perfect, from a Unix administration standpoint. On the other hand, it was as solid and steady as a rock.
Granted, it was a movie set papier mache rock, balanced on a precipice, and it kept falling off, so that it was never up when you needed it, and it was always losing little bits, but at least it was like a rock.
Sort of.
Kind of.
A pet rock would have been more useful.
Yeah, I was thinking Darl needs to be on the list. Sorta like Hitler belongs on the list of those who influenced the 20th century. Granted, Darl isn't as powerful and evil a despot as Hitler was, but he seems to be trying.
Most places I've worked that had an actual system used either gnats (two of those places I did a lot of custom work on gnats, esp. for the web front end), or a Remedy (or similar) based solution.
Gnats is a pain to work with. The commercial solutions tend to be expensive. Bugzilla is OK, but not quite what we wanted. So we still use email here.
But I'm going to check into RT and maybe Double Chocolate Latte.
Although... "I got RT installed and working...in only about three hours" (from memory). Yikes!
Since Windows provides a way to disable the driver, is Windows in violation of the DMCA? Is Bill Gates the leader of a secret anti-DMCA cult? Will the DMCA and RIAA Stormtroopers, with BATF support, reduce the Redmon Compound to a smoking rubble heap? Tune in next week, same Bat-time, same Bat-/.page!
But seriously, the DMCA is so vague and absurd, that one probably *could* hold MS accountable for this. Or the Linux providers accountable for not including the ability to auto-install and require DRM-compliant drivers.
I'm going back to my vinyl collection.
Anyone want to buy a non-DRM-compliant, analog CD player? Cash only, unmarked bills, no receipt, we meet in a dark spot we both agree on, with faces covered, wearing gloves...
-Paranoid
And those ways tend to be big, slow, and/or complex to configure. With better hardware support, you end up with smaller and faster. Configuration? Some of that will still be up to the software designers. But when that's the main task, instead of an "oh, yeah. we need this, too", it has a better chance of being done well.
"You get four times greater impact with APS than you do without it,"
!!!!!!
I'm guessing he meant it can survive impacts up to four times as strong, or four times as many impacts.
But I'm also wondering how true that is. A 10th of a second seems awfully slow...
I get emails all the time from strangers. Emails I want - I run FAQs and websites for a newsgroup, as well as a memorial website for a musician, etc. So I *expect* email from strangers. But I hate spam, commercial or otherwise.
Authenticating the From address would be much better. If the transport software would check that the From address somehow mated with the connecting host, or failing that of the received-by lines matched up, 80%+ of the spam I get would never even make it to the filetsr.
End of the Internet predicted, and all that.
I vote we use the papers' authors as practice bombs.
Maybe because that's supposed to be the closest thing to what the official 1.0 release will be? You know, the thing that's for real users, not developers, hackers, experimenters, and folks with way too much time on their hands? People who just want to see a video, not solve open source puzzles?
SGI has, indeed, had to show their data in public. You can go get the two versions of the kernel and compare them yourself. I'd be willing to bet SGI will happily provid eyou their source of belief the code is PD, and it should be quite easy to research. There are plenty of resources available for that.
This is 180 degrees out of phase with the SCO approach, which has been well documented...
The code in question appears to be either:
- PD code that ended up being used in two separate products (in this case, Unix and Linux), or
- code so obvious that (at least) two different progranmmers came up with the same code
Both of these are common occurances. To claim copyright infringement in such a case is ludicrous.Other than being more charitable to SCO than I would, this pretty well sums up what I got from the letter.
If it weren't such a poorly handled case, I could almost believe M$ was pulling the strings at SCO, as part of their "destroy Linux" campaign. But one thing M$ *does* have is business sense. Another is lawyers. SO I can't believe they own this one.
Whether they're been egging things on is another thing completely.
Too late, they already put Windows on my gun, and it just keeps rebooting when I pull the trigger.
I've worked on all sides of this fence, including alongside a headhunter when I worked for a firm whose parent firm was a recruiter. I've personally known of 5 good recruiting firms, and 5 bad ones. Of the 5 good ones, two were very small and gave up when high tech went bust, two downsized but are still there, and one I'm not sure about, since I haven't kept up after moving half way across the USA.
I have no idea about the 5 bad ones - I never paid any attention to them again.
Come to think of it, there were also a couple of so-so firms. I didn't keep up with them, either.
I haven't seen any correlation between size or longevity and how well a recruiter does - it all comes down to connections, personality, integrity and business sense. Some have plenty of all of these while others have less or none. Those with the least in these areas tend not to last. 8^/
Shop recruiters like you would jobs or employees. And don't be afraid to try some of the new web-based ASPs like hire.com . (I'm not refering to huge bulletin boards that are worse than the shotgun approach (tactical nukes?))
[I used to work for hire.com, but left for personal reasons. I haven't checked lately, but last time I looked, they still provided lots of value.]
...ping shelob and survive?
Directly? Nothing. Indirectly? Everything.
If you pay $500 for a trillion verified email addresses, and your three spam campaigns get you only 12 buyers at $19.95, you not only have lost money, you probably can't afford to change your phone number, which you need by then.
But if you can get, say, 500 buyers at $19.95, you not only made money and bought the phone number of a dead drug kingpin everyone is afraid to call, but you have a lot more incentive to keep spamming.
-Miles
[look for my email about how you can build wealth reselling my vanilla cookies!]
Freedom of speech is just that. It is *not* a right to force others to hear you, to interrupt others, to invade their homes, etc.
You want to stand on teh corner and wave a sign about how great your product is, fine. You wanna tell me all about it when I call you or walk into your store, fine. You wanna sell ads to the magazines, fine. But you have *no right* to demand that I listen to you, or to barge into my home, place of business, etc. Period.
``involved scientists dangling from a helicopter''
Admittedly, this is an exciting prospect, but to really reach its potential, I think we should test this concept with SCO execs...
No thanks!
I'd really like to know what kind of diligence Ren did in this case. VCs (at least, those with any brains) don't just take a company's word for it. They look into it *in depth*. I've worked for a variety of startups, and that's how things work (gee, just like you'd expect them to work!)
So at least one of three things seems to have happened:
1) Ren didn't do very good diligence.
2) SCO flat out lied and presented some major-league bogus evidence.
3) Ren believed as SCO appears to believe - that they could get away with this farce.
Note that these are not mutually exclusive.
More and more, it smells like Enron to me.
While I can't speak for the author, I didn't take this as a vi ad, per se (and vi is my editor or choice for almost everything!)
I took it as an endorsement of vi *and similarly simple yet powerful editors*. Things that let you just do the job. Things that don't try to do a bunch of extra stuff. Things that don't encourage you to major in the minors.
I use vi because it just works, and is generally available on everything I use. With the exception of Windows, I don't even have to chase it down; it's just there. If I used VMS, I guess I'd have to chase vi down- or maybe I'd just revert to EDT. I've learned way too many editors over the years, and forgotten most of them. vi is nearly ubiquititous, easy and powerful, so I use it.
But if joe, or nEdIt, or whatever works for you, great. But for serious writing- no matter how complex- keep it simple.