... as well as the Koran, Snowcrash, Lolita, Romeo and Juliet... I am sure there are many more, a significant part of "classical" literature contains sex scenes involving minors. And since in a lot of countries sex involving a minor is automatically deemed rape, this idea would banish them to the trash bin. That the majority of classic literature was written by a bunch of dirty old men surely doesnt help.
Or am I missing something here?
And millionaire investment bankers / corporate raiders don't ever scam people? When poor people do it, it's criminal, when the wealthy do it, it's a free market.
if I got a penny for being justified in "Thats Marxism" behind a comment here, I'd be pretty well off. Legislative action is heavily dependent from people who are themselves heavily dependent on contributions, and are furtheremore constantly exposed to a mindset that values little more than personal property (Bush was able to forge an election without getting drawn into court and flogged. Imagine the outcry if he'd be caught stealing instead). And this is an observation straigh from "Marx for beginners".
The funny thing is that people seem to assume that just because you subscribe to any of Marx' observations (such as that share-owners earn money from other peoples work), they will assume you also share the stupid conclusions of his brutal pupils. Which is why people cringe as soon as someone tells them "Thats what Marx said" since they expect the FBI to kick in their doors the next night.
You might want to ask what "worked" means, and who is the judge of that. Here in Europe, the French Revolution and the declaration of human rights is seen as the "sine qua non" and central event which all modern notions of human rights, freedom and seperation of state and church are based on. Granted, there was much mutual inspiration between the American revolution and the French, but for Europeans its "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite" that define the human quest for freedom, not the Declaration of independence.
Granted, first they ended up with a dictator (1794), then an emperor (1804), and then the royals they wanted to overthrow were restored forcefully by the other European powers (1815). But the ideas and changes broght by the French revolution provided lasting and led to the democratization of much of Europe in the next 150 years.
Of course you might want to lay blame for the Revolutionary Wars (Millions of dead, Europe laid waste) on the French, or maybe even blame them for the last Two World Wars (their reasons, amonst others, being nationalism and mass conscription, also an invention of the French revolution). However, one might with equal cause then blame the Germans (Hegel, Nietzsche, Marx) or the British (Imperialism). Europe didnt have the luxury of simply declaring itself independent from its rulers and exploring a Brave New World - it had to remove every single of those royal leeches or render them impotent by force. The US has been a great support and inspiration for Europe in the past two centuries, still we had to find our own way.
But judging over some longer timeframe, it worked, the French are today more free than they were in 1900 or 1789.
Oh, and there weren't "10s of thousands of people murdered" but 16,594. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution#Reign_of_Terror). But of course a lot of them were wealthy or gentry, this the outcry. Few bemoaned 20.000 people slaughtered in an average battle between two royals in a fight over a province.
Disclaimer: Am german, I hope the occasional spelling or grammatical error doesnt distract too much from what I am trying to say.
Shit, I remember reading about that in school. Latin class, to be specific - translating a section of Cassius Dio's Historia Romana about its construction. That alone tells you how incredibly old and overdesigned that thing is.
If you build something to last, its not overdesign, its good architecture.
The concept of calulating the lifespan of a building is a very new and sad one, since it means you only build stuff that will make you "get your money back" before that time, preferrably within a generation. I know we cant have the old times back, but I am living in a city quarter that was built in the 1880s and most people in my town woul rather live in those "overdesigned" houses than the overprized concrete crap investors spray into the cityscape here. And, honestly, I would sincerely wish my government would build bridges and buildings that were designed to last, not to crumble after 50 years. What are we going to show our grandchildren? "And here was a building called 'the green mall' when I was a child, but when I was fourty they tore it down to build a school there, and now as you can see they are dynamiting that to replace it with an office building"?
Regards
For about 25 mins LulzSec.com is down, and one self-proclaimed white hat hacker "th3j35t3r" posted enough information on pastebin for the FBI to identify another core member of the LulzSec - http://pastebin.com/76TsPHeU.
Proof again you can break into FBI or CIA, or you can talk about it, but you cant do both for very long.
As a German, I must insist that Pagnol must have read Nietzsche to have this idea:)
Since I'm at work, I dont have the appropriate quote, but Nietzsche extensively examined how reason is searving the desires (and the "will to power" in particular, of course).
Then, I am pretty sure it will be possible to find some prearistotelian thinker who came up with the same idea. Its not really a surprise.
Three years ago I would have happily signed up for such an adventure, even if it was one-way. To be part of that, oh wow. These days, with a wife and a child, I guess I'll envy those who go, but wont be amongst them.
So I dont thinnk there be volunteers lacking, Even though I dont know wether they ft the general requirements of mental stability to be locked up in a can for a year. Even the early colonists of the Americas expected to make some money and then return. And even in the Americas it was a three month voyage on a ship, not a year in space.
Considering the absurdity of some patents granted in the past years, I seriously doubt that the number of paptens on file is a good indicator of technical prowess. It merely shows the strengh of the IP regime
My I kindly point out, Sir, that you are arriving at exactly the point some exiled journalist in London came to some 150 years ago?
His basic insight was that power within society stems from posessions and riches, and especially those riches that allow you to produce more riches, which, in a capitalist society, are companies. And that those fortunes have a significant effect on how society is shaped, run, and governed, i.e. they influence which laws are made, how they are made, and by whom. His proposed solution, however, prooved to be remarkably unworkable due to a couple of wrong assumptions regarding the nature of humans.
I do understand, though, that liberal slashdot posters are usually in opopsition to intellectual property and would not always give credit where credit is due.
when the trolls, from the christian world, or the muslim world, or the liberal world or the conservative world, are the ones driving the conversation
the vast majority of christians, muslims, liberals and conservatives are simply good people.
Right. But there is a slight difference between how the muslim trolls treat you and the christian trolls treat you. I honestly cant remember the last time I head about christian or liberal (or "conservative") terrorists over here in Europe.
I doubt the number of bombs going off after someone publicly burned the books of Adam Smith or John Locke would remain rather miniscule. You do not have the right not to be offended.
Sorry if this answer may sound not tech-savy enough or too simple.
I have mails from 1995 onward, by now roughly from 15+ different accounts, most of them defunct. Except for a couple of months of 1996 and 2005, which I wistfully deleted, I converted them all with a small tool (Aid4mail, i think) from PST, Eudora, or Pegasus format into thunderbirds UNIX-compatible format.
+ Open Source (Free + maintained + Supported)
+ Thunderbird searches and indexes just fine
+ plain text format - I can use all sorts of editors on them if necessary)
+ Always on my HDD (Encryption, no public mining, no external servers needed)
+ UNIX-Format guarantees I can convert them into something completely different in 20 years, should the need arise
+ no additional software needed
Am I overlooking some of GPs requirements here? Or is the slashdot crowd prone to a little overengineeering?:)
Then please explain to me what exactly makes "a Turk" turkish, or an Eskimo "greenlandish"?
The US was built (to my understanding) on the idea that anyone could become an US citizen, if he accepted and supported the constitution and wanted to do so.
Unless you are advocating a return to Germanys racist "volksdeutsche"-laws ("German is who has German grandfathers"), your statement is wrong, because what defines nationality is not an unchangable subset of genetic and cultural traits, but first and foremost a conscious choice. You make it sound as if nationalities were not changable.
"You forced us to kill those hostages by not complying with our demands"
That is exactly what Mr Thiessen is spewing out here.
It is not the responsibility of Mr Assange if anyone gets killed.
It is the responsibility of the solider who joins the army of his own free will and pulls the trigger
It is the responsibility of the taliban who decided to join some holy war and plants a roadside bomb or beheads a civilian.
Pieces like the one in the WP are nothing else but FUD that are meant to deflect responsibilities from those who act. You do not have to be a soldier, you do not have to be a terrorist. All those who kill have a choice. Its the old, the young, the women who dont, and nothing Mr Thiessen writes or does or says is with their well-being in mind. It is sad that the WP posts such a propaganda piece.
What, Sir, is your fight with freedom of speech? That you mock the desire for liberty with threats of obscenity is surly a sign of your disability to grasp the importance of the matter at hands.
Yours
Thats pretty much how I feel whenever I see one of my german compatriots around somewhere. As a German, I shouldbe grateful, Muslims successfully replaced "us" as the bogeyman in Hollywood:)
If your Windows were in its 50.000th edition (or how many generations are we homan now?;)), it should at least be able to reply to your insult. As for only 8 Percent, I'm not so sure.
But honestly, it seems pretty obvious that any system reaching a certain point of complexity will include "alien" parts that subsequently hang around cause they get useful one way or the other.
I wonder how a complete rewrite of the human source code would look like. I mean, documented, clean code...
That’s an interesting thought. So the woman gets paid and then the next day is robbed and killed by a roving gang or a warlord’s hunt and terminate party. The other investors complain to the Somalian Stock Exchange that they don’t feel safe investing because their money can’t be guaranteed. Business suffers as a result until the Stock Exchange or some other business springs up and offers protection for that money.
Thats exactly how every modern government in Europe came into existence. The British, the Dutch, and the Portuguese started out as pirates - Drake, the Ostindian Company, Spanish... it was organized crime supported by the local powers in being (i.e. kings & queens), and it got formalized after a while. The alternative way for people to make a living is go and conquer the neighbourhood, which is what Russia, Germany, and some other countries did in lieu of some decent sea routes to plunder.
I wouldn't ridicule this too much, it is a good development - a stock exchanges *does* need the protection of property and lives, and will lead to people you can negotiate with and that know the value of trust. Those people currently have the choice between starvation and becoming criminal. You can talk to them - try bargaining with some well-fed, middle-class, well-educated jihadist who is convinced the universe owes him more and thats why he's going to blow up himself together with some civilians if they don't stop listening to Popsongs.
During most of the 20th century, "progress" was a big theme. We don't hear that phrase used much any more.
The number by which one measures "progress" for the average Joe, "per capita median real income for urban wage earners", peaked in 1973. (Median income, not average income; the average is biased by wealth concentration to rich people.) Back then, a guy without a high school diploma could get a job at GM and make enough to buy a house, two cars, a boat, and an education for his kids. That's over. (You don't see that number mentioned much any more. It was heavily publicized back when the US boasted "the highest standard of living in the world".)
That's why SF is dead. The plausible future sucks.
Although I would offhand agree with a lot of things you said, the US census bureau seems to dissagree with you and sees raising median real incomes:
Maybe you're over 35 too, from here on, the world will always be a worse place than when we were young:D
But seriously, there was a lot of gloom and doom in the seventies and eighties, when everyone expected we'll die from pollution or simply exterminate ourselves in an atomic war (I have several dozen novels dealing with that possibility alone). Still there was lots of great SF.
I don't think there is less good SF around, its just that the future has become more complicated. I mean, these days William Gibson is not writing SF anymore, he's writing plain novels."At some point there, we left the present and entered the future" (http://xkcd.com/652). I'd say its the abundance of progress, which makes predictions so hard. Come one, compare the youth of someone in the 80ies to todays kids: always online? always being able to chat, mail, watch porn, play, flirt, and reserach for homework? Time is moving fast.
Regards
Slashdot Mirror
... as well as the Koran, Snowcrash, Lolita, Romeo and Juliet... I am sure there are many more, a significant part of "classical" literature contains sex scenes involving minors. And since in a lot of countries sex involving a minor is automatically deemed rape, this idea would banish them to the trash bin. That the majority of classic literature was written by a bunch of dirty old men surely doesnt help. Or am I missing something here?
And millionaire investment bankers / corporate raiders don't ever scam people? When poor people do it, it's criminal, when the wealthy do it, it's a free market.
if I got a penny for being justified in "Thats Marxism" behind a comment here, I'd be pretty well off. Legislative action is heavily dependent from people who are themselves heavily dependent on contributions, and are furtheremore constantly exposed to a mindset that values little more than personal property (Bush was able to forge an election without getting drawn into court and flogged. Imagine the outcry if he'd be caught stealing instead). And this is an observation straigh from "Marx for beginners".
The funny thing is that people seem to assume that just because you subscribe to any of Marx' observations (such as that share-owners earn money from other peoples work), they will assume you also share the stupid conclusions of his brutal pupils. Which is why people cringe as soon as someone tells them "Thats what Marx said" since they expect the FBI to kick in their doors the next night.
You might want to ask what "worked" means, and who is the judge of that. Here in Europe, the French Revolution and the declaration of human rights is seen as the "sine qua non" and central event which all modern notions of human rights, freedom and seperation of state and church are based on. Granted, there was much mutual inspiration between the American revolution and the French, but for Europeans its "Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite" that define the human quest for freedom, not the Declaration of independence.
Granted, first they ended up with a dictator (1794), then an emperor (1804), and then the royals they wanted to overthrow were restored forcefully by the other European powers (1815). But the ideas and changes broght by the French revolution provided lasting and led to the democratization of much of Europe in the next 150 years.
Of course you might want to lay blame for the Revolutionary Wars (Millions of dead, Europe laid waste) on the French, or maybe even blame them for the last Two World Wars (their reasons, amonst others, being nationalism and mass conscription, also an invention of the French revolution). However, one might with equal cause then blame the Germans (Hegel, Nietzsche, Marx) or the British (Imperialism). Europe didnt have the luxury of simply declaring itself independent from its rulers and exploring a Brave New World - it had to remove every single of those royal leeches or render them impotent by force. The US has been a great support and inspiration for Europe in the past two centuries, still we had to find our own way.
But judging over some longer timeframe, it worked, the French are today more free than they were in 1900 or 1789.
Oh, and there weren't "10s of thousands of people murdered" but 16,594. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution#Reign_of_Terror). But of course a lot of them were wealthy or gentry, this the outcry. Few bemoaned 20.000 people slaughtered in an average battle between two royals in a fight over a province.
Disclaimer: Am german, I hope the occasional spelling or grammatical error doesnt distract too much from what I am trying to say.
Shit, I remember reading about that in school. Latin class, to be specific - translating a section of Cassius Dio's Historia Romana about its construction. That alone tells you how incredibly old and overdesigned that thing is.
If you build something to last, its not overdesign, its good architecture. The concept of calulating the lifespan of a building is a very new and sad one, since it means you only build stuff that will make you "get your money back" before that time, preferrably within a generation. I know we cant have the old times back, but I am living in a city quarter that was built in the 1880s and most people in my town woul rather live in those "overdesigned" houses than the overprized concrete crap investors spray into the cityscape here. And, honestly, I would sincerely wish my government would build bridges and buildings that were designed to last, not to crumble after 50 years. What are we going to show our grandchildren? "And here was a building called 'the green mall' when I was a child, but when I was fourty they tore it down to build a school there, and now as you can see they are dynamiting that to replace it with an office building"? Regards
The idea of defining anything as being the norm for humans is actually offensive to me.
Proof again you can break into FBI or CIA, or you can talk about it, but you cant do both for very long.
This here explains it in some more words: https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/14706-LulzSec-How-Not-to-Run-an-Insurgency.html#.TgNxjyifa2A.twitter
Pictures, or it isn't true. TFA is worthless if not providing link to the presentation.
Since I'm at work, I dont have the appropriate quote, but Nietzsche extensively examined how reason is searving the desires (and the "will to power" in particular, of course).
Then, I am pretty sure it will be possible to find some prearistotelian thinker who came up with the same idea. Its not really a surprise.
Three years ago I would have happily signed up for such an adventure, even if it was one-way. To be part of that, oh wow. These days, with a wife and a child, I guess I'll envy those who go, but wont be amongst them.
So I dont thinnk there be volunteers lacking, Even though I dont know wether they ft the general requirements of mental stability to be locked up in a can for a year. Even the early colonists of the Americas expected to make some money and then return. And even in the Americas it was a three month voyage on a ship, not a year in space.
But hell, what a ride.
Considering the absurdity of some patents granted in the past years, I seriously doubt that the number of paptens on file is a good indicator of technical prowess. It merely shows the strengh of the IP regime
For a saint...
or for Samuel L Jackson!
Now THAT would be a biopic of St. patrick even I as an atheist would want to see!
How the fuck is that posting informative? It is plainly FUD
Ahmadinejad has said again and again that he intends to destroy Israel
Go check yourselves
My I kindly point out, Sir, that you are arriving at exactly the point some exiled journalist in London came to some 150 years ago?
His basic insight was that power within society stems from posessions and riches, and especially those riches that allow you to produce more riches, which, in a capitalist society, are companies. And that those fortunes have a significant effect on how society is shaped, run, and governed, i.e. they influence which laws are made, how they are made, and by whom. His proposed solution, however, prooved to be remarkably unworkable due to a couple of wrong assumptions regarding the nature of humans.
I do understand, though, that liberal slashdot posters are usually in opopsition to intellectual property and would not always give credit where credit is due.
when the trolls, from the christian world, or the muslim world, or the liberal world or the conservative world, are the ones driving the conversation
the vast majority of christians, muslims, liberals and conservatives are simply good people.
Right. But there is a slight difference between how the muslim trolls treat you and the christian trolls treat you. I honestly cant remember the last time I head about christian or liberal (or "conservative") terrorists over here in Europe.
I doubt the number of bombs going off after someone publicly burned the books of Adam Smith or John Locke would remain rather miniscule. You do not have the right not to be offended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ3VcbAfd4w
I have mails from 1995 onward, by now roughly from 15+ different accounts, most of them defunct. Except for a couple of months of 1996 and 2005, which I wistfully deleted, I converted them all with a small tool (Aid4mail, i think) from PST, Eudora, or Pegasus format into thunderbirds UNIX-compatible format.
+ Open Source (Free + maintained + Supported)
+ Thunderbird searches and indexes just fine
+ plain text format - I can use all sorts of editors on them if necessary)
+ Always on my HDD (Encryption, no public mining, no external servers needed)
+ UNIX-Format guarantees I can convert them into something completely different in 20 years, should the need arise
+ no additional software needed
Am I overlooking some of GPs requirements here? Or is the slashdot crowd prone to a little overengineeering? :)
Regards!
The US was built (to my understanding) on the idea that anyone could become an US citizen, if he accepted and supported the constitution and wanted to do so.
Unless you are advocating a return to Germanys racist "volksdeutsche"-laws ("German is who has German grandfathers"), your statement is wrong, because what defines nationality is not an unchangable subset of genetic and cultural traits, but first and foremost a conscious choice. You make it sound as if nationalities were not changable.
I got really good with the spoon. Can I haz PhD now?
(http://games.adultswim.com/amateur-surgeon-2-twitchy-online-game.html)
"You forced us to kill those hostages by not complying with our demands"
That is exactly what Mr Thiessen is spewing out here.
It is not the responsibility of Mr Assange if anyone gets killed.
It is the responsibility of the solider who joins the army of his own free will and pulls the trigger
It is the responsibility of the taliban who decided to join some holy war and plants a roadside bomb or beheads a civilian.
Pieces like the one in the WP are nothing else but FUD that are meant to deflect responsibilities from those who act. You do not have to be a soldier, you do not have to be a terrorist. All those who kill have a choice. Its the old, the young, the women who dont, and nothing Mr Thiessen writes or does or says is with their well-being in mind. It is sad that the WP posts such a propaganda piece.
Regards
What, Sir, is your fight with freedom of speech? That you mock the desire for liberty with threats of obscenity is surly a sign of your disability to grasp the importance of the matter at hands. Yours
Not Yurek Rutz?
Thats pretty much how I feel whenever I see one of my german compatriots around somewhere. As a German, I shouldbe grateful, Muslims successfully replaced "us" as the bogeyman in Hollywood :)
If your Windows were in its 50.000th edition (or how many generations are we homan now? ;)), it should at least be able to reply to your insult. As for only 8 Percent, I'm not so sure.
But honestly, it seems pretty obvious that any system reaching a certain point of complexity will include "alien" parts that subsequently hang around cause they get useful one way or the other.
I wonder how a complete rewrite of the human source code would look like. I mean, documented, clean code...
That’s an interesting thought. So the woman gets paid and then the next day is robbed and killed by a roving gang or a warlord’s hunt and terminate party. The other investors complain to the Somalian Stock Exchange that they don’t feel safe investing because their money can’t be guaranteed. Business suffers as a result until the Stock Exchange or some other business springs up and offers protection for that money.
Thats exactly how every modern government in Europe came into existence. The British, the Dutch, and the Portuguese started out as pirates - Drake, the Ostindian Company, Spanish ... it was organized crime supported by the local powers in being (i.e. kings & queens), and it got formalized after a while. The alternative way for people to make a living is go and conquer the neighbourhood, which is what Russia, Germany, and some other countries did in lieu of some decent sea routes to plunder.
I wouldn't ridicule this too much, it is a good development - a stock exchanges *does* need the protection of property and lives, and will lead to people you can negotiate with and that know the value of trust. Those people currently have the choice between starvation and becoming criminal. You can talk to them - try bargaining with some well-fed, middle-class, well-educated jihadist who is convinced the universe owes him more and thats why he's going to blow up himself together with some civilians if they don't stop listening to Popsongs.
During most of the 20th century, "progress" was a big theme. We don't hear that phrase used much any more. The number by which one measures "progress" for the average Joe, "per capita median real income for urban wage earners", peaked in 1973. (Median income, not average income; the average is biased by wealth concentration to rich people.) Back then, a guy without a high school diploma could get a job at GM and make enough to buy a house, two cars, a boat, and an education for his kids. That's over. (You don't see that number mentioned much any more. It was heavily publicized back when the US boasted "the highest standard of living in the world".)
That's why SF is dead. The plausible future sucks.
Although I would offhand agree with a lot of things you said, the US census bureau seems to dissagree with you and sees raising median real incomes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States, specifically
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Household_income_65_to_05.png
Maybe you're over 35 too, from here on, the world will always be a worse place than when we were young :D
But seriously, there was a lot of gloom and doom in the seventies and eighties, when everyone expected we'll die from pollution or simply exterminate ourselves in an atomic war (I have several dozen novels dealing with that possibility alone). Still there was lots of great SF.
I don't think there is less good SF around, its just that the future has become more complicated. I mean, these days William Gibson is not writing SF anymore, he's writing plain novels."At some point there, we left the present and entered the future" (http://xkcd.com/652). I'd say its the abundance of progress, which makes predictions so hard. Come one, compare the youth of someone in the 80ies to todays kids: always online? always being able to chat, mail, watch porn, play, flirt, and reserach for homework? Time is moving fast. Regards
towards the tits?