The goal of the excercise wasn't to make M$ lose money on the systems , it was to make sure that the xbox didn't become a popular gaming system , by keeping it out of the hands of willing gamers.
M$ could claim huge numbers of consoles sold (and would have to keep to itself the fact that not many people would be buying games), which the gaming companies would then use as an excuse to make games for it. They are the ones who would be bitten badly by this , and hopefully never write a game for an M$ console ever again.
Of course , the fact that the games that came out were all shit meant that we didn't have to bother anyway.
They don't have to provide ISOs , but my life would be better if they did. I'm running an installfest in melbourne on the 29th , here , but have little choice but to tell people to bring their own SuSE disks along.
there are two meanings of the word "free". We are constantly talking about "free"dom (free speech , not free beer), and you are trying to imply the second meaning, free money.
people should recognise this and stop being baited by it.
I haven't been to any other countries , so I have no idea if RH does this elsewhere or not. In Australia , from the newsagent you can buy RH as a 5 CD set , with a small A5 size installation guide, for about $35AUS (I think). When APC magazine sold their linux "pocketbooks" in newsagencies a few years ago, they were immensely popular, easily selling thousands in a few days, complete with a linux distro. After the third release of the APC pocketbook , RH must have decided to get some of the action, and released their own pocketbook.
Hopefully RH in australia keeps this up , its really nice to be able to go to almost your nearest store, and pick up linux from anywhere. And you still get your RH stickers too:-)
Re:THAT'S considered an acceptible release bug???
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How the heck are RANDOM CRASHES an acceptable release time bug? Especialy with the many MANY users out there who have integrated ATI chips?
what makes you think that it is the fault of the mozilla developers for this?
If you have an "integrated ATI chip" , its a good chance that you have an ATI Rage card of some sort. And the drivers for those cards are pure utter shit.
While using a ATI Rage card, I've seen windows smudge just by moving them (can only be fixed by minimising and restoring) , and I've witnessed BSOD's happen that give the ATI driver as the culprit.
Naturally, none of the above happens on any other graphics card I've seen, by going through the same steps to try and recreate the error.
I was sooo pissed to see a smudged window. I've never seen anything like it on any other computer, ever. I now avoid any machine with an ATI card in it.
I've just given away about 50 knoppix 3.1 CDs at a user group show in melbourne. Its great , you don't have to touch your hard drive at all, and the instructions are dead simple.
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Put this: "mem=nopentium" in your boot parameters. It gets around a bug in AMD chips about how they handle different sized memory pages, by forcing them to always be the same size.
My AMD 1600 box will crash in opengl games without it. And a local school who have replaced almost all their machines with RH 7.3 boxes discovered the same thing.
A "security issue" could be anything from being fuX0r3d by the latest virus, to M$ deciding to DRM your ass to the wall. (which from a certain point of view would be a "feature" anyway).
So don't take it as anything more than a throwaway line.
I'm more worried about the poor soldier that decides to relieve himself on the side of the tank.
I've seen cows pee on electric fences, that's always good for a laugh. Not sure if I'd be laughing if I saw a person with his naughty bits blown clean off...
In fact , he was on the committee for LUV (Linux users of victoria http://www.luv.asn.au) for about 6 months, before he had to go to queensland for work. (I'm now the prez)
He set up the gaming group in LUV, and helped out a lot with events we ran. He also set up lan gaming sessions himself (windows users were welcome to come along).
The nature of his job demands he has a low tolerence of stuff that doesn't work properly. I'm a programmer, so I'm used to stuff that doesn't work properly , and I try to fix it. But I'm frustrated about stuff that doesn't work properly either.
One good example was setting up XSANE to use my new scanner. after swearing at it all day, I discovered that XSANE wanted the config files in/usr/local/etc/,not/etc . Not happy to find that out, especially in a deb packaged program. Another example I was told about last night was quota. Apparently it's been broken for ages. wtf?
Setting up pcmcia on a toshiba laptop with the 2.4 kernel is an exercise in frustration. with 2.2 kernels it works fine. Not a peep out of 2.4
I decided to install mandrake instead of debian on my new laptop, and I must say it's nice having a distro that sets things up well. Stuff just works. I'll probably go back to debian, but for now I'm seeing how it _should_ be. I can't wait until the progeny installer gets put into debian.
If there's a system in linux where you can select a new module, compile and install it without torching your current modules configuration (ie having to recompile NVdriver) then that would go a long way.
XP isn't much of an OS I'm afraid. It's annoying, and I've BSOD'd it three times in two days. one just by plugging in a ps2 mouse, another by trying to fullscreen a dvd movie, and another one... (can't remember) So I don't agree with him there.
Don't call kNIGits a troll , he doesn't deserve it.
>Because so many people refuse to vote, the democratic process is utterly meaningless.
well , when everyone _has_ to vote, it's not much better. politicians will suck up to the 50% they think can win the election for them, and blatently screw the rest. When the political parties both look and talk the same, you have no choice at all.
aren't DVD players built the same way? All the MPAA has to do is not publish a manufacturers key on new DVDs that get presses, suddenly your player becomes useless for all new DVDs.
Of course, it would take a manufacturer, not J Random H@X0r, to piss off the MPAA enough to do that.
http://www.lge.com/about/rnd/think/homenet.shtml Seeing as this fridge uses a new comms standard called upnp, developed by both M$ and LG, It sounds like this fridge runs windows. I'd rather not pull the fridge out of the wall just to reset the thing. And when the fridge "crashes", do you lose all your food?
The story claims that recipies in the fridge can be updated through the internet, as well as mp3 files. Why not locally? How much do you have to pay just to upload a recipe?
It's a shame that/. is being used to blatently advertise M$ products.
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The goal of the excercise wasn't to make M$ lose money on the systems , it was to make sure that the xbox didn't become a popular gaming system , by keeping it out of the hands of willing gamers.
M$ could claim huge numbers of consoles sold (and would have to keep to itself the fact that not many people would be buying games), which the gaming companies would then use as an excuse to make games for it. They are the ones who would be bitten badly by this , and hopefully never write a game for an M$ console ever again.
Of course , the fact that the games that came out were all shit meant that we didn't have to bother anyway.
They don't have to provide ISOs , but my life would be better if they did. I'm running an installfest in melbourne on the 29th , here , but have little choice but to tell people to bring their own SuSE disks along.
there are two meanings of the word "free". We are constantly talking about
"free"dom (free speech , not free beer), and you are trying to imply the
second meaning, free money.
people should recognise this and stop being baited by it.
I can still detach a tab by clicking and dragging it outside the window. The menu option for it is gone , yes. But the feature isn't.
sort of... after the meeting when we go out for pizza, you might find onion on the pizzas.
:-) (penguin mints , hypermints, etc)
At the meeting any food you can get has high amounts of caffiene in it
That's true , but there's a bunch of members of OSV who are in the local user group(s) anyway , so its not a big deal.
OSV can concentrate on evangelism for companies and other groups , and the LUGs can concentrate on helping their members.
I haven't been to any other countries , so I have no idea if RH does this elsewhere or not. In Australia , from the newsagent you can buy RH as a 5 CD set , with a small A5 size installation guide, for about $35AUS (I think). When APC magazine sold their linux "pocketbooks" in newsagencies a few years ago, they were immensely popular, easily selling thousands in a few days, complete with a linux distro. After the third release of the APC pocketbook , RH must have decided to get some of the action, and released their own pocketbook.
:-)
Hopefully RH in australia keeps this up , its really nice to be able to go to almost your nearest store, and pick up linux from anywhere.
And you still get your RH stickers too
How the heck are RANDOM CRASHES an acceptable release time bug? Especialy with the many MANY users out there who have integrated ATI chips?
what makes you think that it is the fault of the mozilla developers for this?
If you have an "integrated ATI chip" , its a good chance that you have an ATI Rage card of some sort. And the drivers for those cards are pure utter shit.
While using a ATI Rage card, I've seen windows smudge just by moving them (can only be fixed by minimising and restoring) , and I've witnessed BSOD's happen that give the ATI driver as the culprit.
Naturally, none of the above happens on any other graphics card I've seen, by going through the same steps to try and recreate the error.
I was sooo pissed to see a smudged window. I've never seen anything like it on any other computer, ever. I now avoid any machine with an ATI card in it.
You more than likely bought a piece of garbage.
Microsoft Windows Update doesn't trash itself , just Microsoft Windows.
if he offered to pay the full amount of money (just imagine for a sec that he said he would , we all know he can't)
would the RIAA have to pay any kind of tax on that money, even though they don't have it yet?
I guess you weren't at one of the later sessions when linus was out the front :-)
his kids were madly running around the lecture theatre, I guess they were bored out of their minds.
I was going to ask linus in the Q&A session about how he handles runaway spawned processes...but I never got picked to ask a question.
I've just given away about 50 knoppix 3.1 CDs at a user group show in melbourne. Its great , you don't have to touch your hard drive at all, and the instructions are dead simple.
Put this: "mem=nopentium" in your boot parameters. It gets around a bug in AMD chips about how they handle different sized memory pages, by forcing them to always be the same size.
My AMD 1600 box will crash in opengl games without it. And a local school who have replaced almost all their machines with RH 7.3 boxes discovered the same thing.
5 pressed cds!. it's very generous of them , isn't it? It would have cost them about two dollars to make.
from the dish...
It turns out it's the largest radio telescope in the southern hemisphere.
What's it doing in the middle of a sheep paddock?
The Americans spend billions of dollars to let us watch a man walk on the moon and in the end it falls to you blokes. How do you feel about that?
A lot better before you opened your trap.
sums things up quite nicely I think. baa!
that's nice. how am I supposed to read the warning from that far up?
sounds like someone was a bit slack in testing.
A "security issue" could be anything from being fuX0r3d by the latest virus, to M$ deciding to DRM your ass to the wall. (which from a certain point of view would be a "feature" anyway).
So don't take it as anything more than a throwaway line.
I'm more worried about the poor soldier that decides to relieve himself on the side of the tank.
I've seen cows pee on electric fences, that's always good for a laugh. Not sure if I'd be laughing if I saw a person with his naughty bits blown clean off...
get off the grass!.
:)
oh, that's right , you're lazy.
windows is only cheap if your time is worthless.
Unix admin costs less than windows admin , you need less admins to get the job done.
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In fact , he was on the committee for LUV (Linux users of victoria http://www.luv.asn.au) for about 6 months, before he had to go to queensland for work. (I'm now the prez)
/usr/local/etc/ ,not /etc . Not happy to find that out, especially in a deb packaged program. Another example I was told about last night was quota. Apparently it's been broken for ages. wtf?
He set up the gaming group in LUV, and helped out a lot with events we ran. He also set up lan gaming sessions himself (windows users were welcome to come along).
The nature of his job demands he has a low tolerence of stuff that doesn't work properly. I'm a programmer, so I'm used to stuff that doesn't work properly , and I try to fix it. But I'm frustrated about stuff that doesn't work properly either.
One good example was setting up XSANE to use my new scanner. after swearing at it all day, I discovered that XSANE wanted the config files in
Setting up pcmcia on a toshiba laptop with the 2.4 kernel is an exercise in frustration. with 2.2 kernels it works fine. Not a peep out of 2.4
I decided to install mandrake instead of debian on my new laptop, and I must say it's nice having a distro that sets things up well. Stuff just works. I'll probably go back to debian, but for now I'm seeing how it _should_ be. I can't wait until the progeny installer gets put into debian.
If there's a system in linux where you can select a new module, compile and install it without torching your current modules configuration (ie having to recompile NVdriver) then that would go a long way.
XP isn't much of an OS I'm afraid. It's annoying, and I've BSOD'd it three times in two days. one just by plugging in a ps2 mouse, another by trying to fullscreen a dvd movie, and another one... (can't remember) So I don't agree with him there.
Don't call kNIGits a troll , he doesn't deserve it.
>Because so many people refuse to vote, the democratic process is utterly meaningless.
well , when everyone _has_ to vote, it's not much better. politicians will suck up to the 50% they think can win the election for them, and blatently screw the rest. When the political parties both look and talk the same, you have no choice at all.
aren't DVD players built the same way? All the MPAA has to do is not publish a manufacturers key on new DVDs that get presses, suddenly your player becomes useless for all new DVDs.
Of course, it would take a manufacturer, not J Random H@X0r, to piss off the MPAA enough to do that.
http://www.lge.com/about/rnd/think/homenet.shtml
/. is being used to blatently advertise M$ products.
Seeing as this fridge uses a new comms standard called upnp, developed by both M$ and LG, It sounds like this fridge runs windows. I'd rather not pull the fridge out of the wall just to reset the thing. And when the fridge "crashes", do you lose all your food?
The story claims that recipies in the fridge can be updated through the internet, as well as mp3 files. Why not locally? How much do you have to pay just to upload a recipe?
It's a shame that