Your pedantry is only surpassed by mine... We did not descend from apes or monkeys anymore than they descended from us. To say that apes evolved from humans is no more correct or incorrect than to say we evolved from apes. We both evolved from the same thing at some point in history. Technically so did zebras, catfish, and conservatives.
If you don't lose sight of the fact that you're paid to enable the work of others, you'll find yourself better adjusted and more successful in the long run. Your perfectly implemented Git repository, to which you applied the utmost competence and the latest and greatest of best practices, but which nobody at your company likes to use, is not superior to the Sharepoint that Fred from Accounting set up and everyone loves. Your system does not have intrinsic value. It only exists to serve.
That's just wrong... you suggest that half assed systems be setup because the user likes it? How about we put weatherbug on every pc? What about giving them all admin rights... that would make many happy, and supposedly better able to do their job. Just because the user likes it doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Just because IT likes it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Your situation would bring about users creating sites, adding data, perhaps without proper access control, and certianly no reliable way to find/access that data... in short your system is a mess. Again MOSS might be great for document storage, but if you need a system to actually tie into other systems and what not, Fred's server probably won't properly do that in 2 years when the new accounting system is implemented. IT has to take it's knowledge of how data should be handled, and make a system the decision makers want; this should include the usability as a factor, but by no means the deciding factor. Look at many data input applications that still don't have a GUI...
Maybe we differ on this, but I don't do whatever the users want... it would result in madness. I do what would be best for the company... which is often not what the employees want, which is why we have to pay them to show up.
What does "run around shooting guns" thing mean? I'll bet all (except that one asshole) 1.6 million of us here haven't seen a gun fired outside a range/hunting area/other safe place in the past year, or for many such as myself, ever. I just don't even understand.
Does adding the "online" feature really make it novel? Can I file this same thing and put in "bit torrent" or "TOR" and have a novel idea? What about this but using the cellular network? I am just curious if simply adding the latest medium makes anything novel?
This case illustrates the value of having copyright extend beyond the life of the author, since it was his daughter who seemed to suffer for Joyce's art.
Isn't that what an inheritance is for? Don't all kids suffer because of what their parents tried to provide for them? I remember not being able to purchase all the latest toys because my dad always wanted a computer this or that.... but those got me way further than any gi joe would have done. In the case of work released right before death, there should be a minimum time limit, such as 14 years.
I know... let's use all the numbers so everyone is happy. You have copyright until you are 90, unless you die before that point at which time you can only continue benefits if it was less than 14 years ago... and you only get it for 14 years from that date.
And you must have been raised in a closed minded christian household...? You think the only reason someone might look at porn is to directly get off? You don't think the human body can be viewed without ripping off your clothes and letting the devil do his dirty work? I guess the only reason women wear v-necks and tight clothes is to get us to want to wank it right then and there. Perhaps Michaelangelo wanted you to fap when you went into the chapel?
I don't really disagree that it shouldn't be in the workplace, but your attitude towards porn stinks...
The point of the software is to make it easier for the workers to do their jobs. Not to make it easier for the IT staff to interface with
No the point of software is to make the company more money. No other reason. If it is easier and faster to do it on paper, and there are no external forces, then nobody would use computers. Go to your local diner... many still don't have a computerized system as it would not benefit them financially, even though a waitress or two might want the nice touch screens other restaurants have.
As far as "users vs. IT" it isn't much of a contest... IT projects can come in at several thousand times the amount of your salary. When trying to interface your order system (website), inventory & production systems, shippings systems and more, you don't want to have the one cog in your system that every other system has conform to. You want it to conform to your systems, use best practices and be something the IT dept can actually use, troubleshoot, and modify if necessary. In fact, trying to shove a system like sharepoint into a business where it doesn't fit is probably the best recipe for disaster. That disaster will be for the whole company... not the guy at the end of the hall who liked the search feature in sharepoint. That's why it's important that IT be able to work with it, even at a cost of usability.
Thank you... apparently the GP got modded up by people that have never used SPS/MOSS. If they had, and had tried to access the DB to run a sql query, they would see that it is not a simple task to query that db and get proper results... it's not documented and uses some sort of id system to find things that you will not understand. I have moved into positions and was able to understand the DB and work at that level (with confidence, on production systems far more complicated than what SPS should be) in weeks... sharepoint would take years.
If you work on web services all day, CAML and XML are second nature to you, and you have quite a bit of experience with MS api's, you might be able to make sharepoint usable from other applications... but many of us in smaller businesses have better stuff to do and would be better served using something open source, or at least where you can reasonably access your data. I wish the management understood that. However the ability to setup sections for each department, and have a project page for every project in a month (but they were all unconnected sites, with no integrity, then users were given access to create their own sites/pages) was too much "Oooh, neat and shiny" for the execs to handle... oh what a mess.
I don't think he knows wtf he's talking about? Is there a new version of IIS with win7? - I doubt it... pretty sure it came with Server 2008, you know, that OS that people actually run IIS on.
That's highly dependent on where you live. Yes I know some in the south don't have AC, but they don't usually have a job - so they can stink all they want.
Along the same lines... there was recently a case about fantasy sports stats that concluded it was public info and therefore MLB had no right to restricts someones use of those stats. It seems that "any reproduction, account or description of this game..." stuff is BS and I am glad someone finally called them on it.
I guarantee that the marketing guys will think this is a success. Banking is one of many industries that can benefit from "gettin'em young". I bet this will bring in a ton of new accounts; and that is worth far more than paying back a few thousand because someone's twitter account got pawned.
I saw on some news program that SS won't be broke in the sense you claim. They will be able to pay over 70% of what they will owe in 2030 (or exactly whenever) and from there on out. And I would posit that it has been "our", as in the citizen's, fault that it is now facing these problems; when enacted it was intended to cover the last few years of your life and we have changed that to make it a retirement plan. We finally upped the age for benefits, but not in time (medicine advanced far quicker than the ages did).
And worse... they are making it cool again. In a water-cooler talk, someone said they heard that cigarettes are now so expensive it is considered a status symbol among kids. It's like the kids are saying "Yeah, I'm cool. I can afford 6 bucks a day".
Isn't that all part of it? You have to select the people that you want to do business with. Sure google could shut down gmail or docs tomorrow, but I don't think they will. Sure my ISP could close up shop, godaddy could blow up, my accountant might get hit by a bus...
You will never mitigate all the risks... but instead of me worrying about DNS, Hosting/Colo, the code, the server(s), the disk space, the db, the backups, and on and on and on... I have outsourced those worries to google in return for a small risk they may unexpectedly shut down some day. If you have taken the proper steps to mitigate that risk (simple offline backups of your docs/email) then you have no issues.
I certainly don't see this as a reason to start the evil mantra again.
I don't use it the way the GP describes, but the imaging software I have used will usually let you kick off a job over the network, but the data is on a partition on the computer. This does mean that someone could mess with that data, but bots aren't that smart yet, and most users couldn't do more than delete data (which is easily restored). It cuts down greatly on network usage; also I would assume you would need one hell of a server to push that out to more than a few dozen computers.
Your gonna threaten MS to remove the right to sell their product in your state? First, I don't think that would fly with the > 80% of voters that use MS products in that state (including the state govt, i'm sure). No second needed... but mod him up, brilliant idea!
How else would you notify the device playing music that you wish for the music to stop?
Well there has to be a full circuit... Simple switch that is always on when it has pressure, such as being jammed in your ear; when removed from the pressure the contact is broken and so is the circuit.
Furthermore, changes are only pushed out every 15 seconds from the Google server, making real-time collaboration difficult.
Well that seems reasonable to me. What in the hell are doing to a text file that requires faster updates? That just seems like a mess, and something most companies/people wouldn't really want to do. Have you ever had someone fight you when you try to remote control a machine? That's what this sounds like.
First, we are talking about a book produced by the state to help lawyers understand the enigmatic laws of the state. That is sad enough. Now I don't like passive-aggressive actions, but the only other options are to pay for something that should be unnecessary and public domain, or to try to follow the laws and get it changed through direct challenge of these laws that are apparently so difficult to understand, therefore requiring you to purchase this book anyways.
I converted two people in my office to Ubuntu recently
oreally?
he only thing they needed help with was installing the proprietary media codecs (and I should point out all I did was send them links). They installed Ubuntu themselves
I wouldn't be bragging too much... seems you picked the low hanging fruit and act like a god for doing so... Write back when you get grandma uploading pics from her digital camera to facebook on linux and playing movies.
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Your pedantry is only surpassed by mine... We did not descend from apes or monkeys anymore than they descended from us. To say that apes evolved from humans is no more correct or incorrect than to say we evolved from apes. We both evolved from the same thing at some point in history. Technically so did zebras, catfish, and conservatives.
If you don't lose sight of the fact that you're paid to enable the work of others, you'll find yourself better adjusted and more successful in the long run. Your perfectly implemented Git repository, to which you applied the utmost competence and the latest and greatest of best practices, but which nobody at your company likes to use, is not superior to the Sharepoint that Fred from Accounting set up and everyone loves. Your system does not have intrinsic value. It only exists to serve.
That's just wrong... you suggest that half assed systems be setup because the user likes it? How about we put weatherbug on every pc? What about giving them all admin rights... that would make many happy, and supposedly better able to do their job. Just because the user likes it doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Just because IT likes it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Your situation would bring about users creating sites, adding data, perhaps without proper access control, and certianly no reliable way to find/access that data... in short your system is a mess. Again MOSS might be great for document storage, but if you need a system to actually tie into other systems and what not, Fred's server probably won't properly do that in 2 years when the new accounting system is implemented. IT has to take it's knowledge of how data should be handled, and make a system the decision makers want; this should include the usability as a factor, but by no means the deciding factor. Look at many data input applications that still don't have a GUI...
Maybe we differ on this, but I don't do whatever the users want... it would result in madness. I do what would be best for the company... which is often not what the employees want, which is why we have to pay them to show up.
What does "run around shooting guns" thing mean? I'll bet all (except that one asshole) 1.6 million of us here haven't seen a gun fired outside a range/hunting area/other safe place in the past year, or for many such as myself, ever. I just don't even understand.
Does adding the "online" feature really make it novel? Can I file this same thing and put in "bit torrent" or "TOR" and have a novel idea? What about this but using the cellular network? I am just curious if simply adding the latest medium makes anything novel?
This case illustrates the value of having copyright extend beyond the life of the author, since it was his daughter who seemed to suffer for Joyce's art.
Isn't that what an inheritance is for? Don't all kids suffer because of what their parents tried to provide for them? I remember not being able to purchase all the latest toys because my dad always wanted a computer this or that.... but those got me way further than any gi joe would have done. In the case of work released right before death, there should be a minimum time limit, such as 14 years.
I know... let's use all the numbers so everyone is happy. You have copyright until you are 90, unless you die before that point at which time you can only continue benefits if it was less than 14 years ago... and you only get it for 14 years from that date.
And you must have been raised in a closed minded christian household...? You think the only reason someone might look at porn is to directly get off? You don't think the human body can be viewed without ripping off your clothes and letting the devil do his dirty work? I guess the only reason women wear v-necks and tight clothes is to get us to want to wank it right then and there. Perhaps Michaelangelo wanted you to fap when you went into the chapel?
I don't really disagree that it shouldn't be in the workplace, but your attitude towards porn stinks...
The point of the software is to make it easier for the workers to do their jobs. Not to make it easier for the IT staff to interface with
No the point of software is to make the company more money. No other reason. If it is easier and faster to do it on paper, and there are no external forces, then nobody would use computers. Go to your local diner... many still don't have a computerized system as it would not benefit them financially, even though a waitress or two might want the nice touch screens other restaurants have.
As far as "users vs. IT" it isn't much of a contest... IT projects can come in at several thousand times the amount of your salary. When trying to interface your order system (website), inventory & production systems, shippings systems and more, you don't want to have the one cog in your system that every other system has conform to. You want it to conform to your systems, use best practices and be something the IT dept can actually use, troubleshoot, and modify if necessary. In fact, trying to shove a system like sharepoint into a business where it doesn't fit is probably the best recipe for disaster. That disaster will be for the whole company... not the guy at the end of the hall who liked the search feature in sharepoint. That's why it's important that IT be able to work with it, even at a cost of usability.
Thank you... apparently the GP got modded up by people that have never used SPS/MOSS. If they had, and had tried to access the DB to run a sql query, they would see that it is not a simple task to query that db and get proper results... it's not documented and uses some sort of id system to find things that you will not understand. I have moved into positions and was able to understand the DB and work at that level (with confidence, on production systems far more complicated than what SPS should be) in weeks... sharepoint would take years.
If you work on web services all day, CAML and XML are second nature to you, and you have quite a bit of experience with MS api's, you might be able to make sharepoint usable from other applications... but many of us in smaller businesses have better stuff to do and would be better served using something open source, or at least where you can reasonably access your data. I wish the management understood that. However the ability to setup sections for each department, and have a project page for every project in a month (but they were all unconnected sites, with no integrity, then users were given access to create their own sites/pages) was too much "Oooh, neat and shiny" for the execs to handle... oh what a mess.
I don't think he knows wtf he's talking about? Is there a new version of IIS with win7? - I doubt it... pretty sure it came with Server 2008, you know, that OS that people actually run IIS on.
That's highly dependent on where you live. Yes I know some in the south don't have AC, but they don't usually have a job - so they can stink all they want.
Along the same lines... there was recently a case about fantasy sports stats that concluded it was public info and therefore MLB had no right to restricts someones use of those stats. It seems that "any reproduction, account or description of this game..." stuff is BS and I am glad someone finally called them on it.
I guarantee that the marketing guys will think this is a success. Banking is one of many industries that can benefit from "gettin'em young". I bet this will bring in a ton of new accounts; and that is worth far more than paying back a few thousand because someone's twitter account got pawned.
I saw on some news program that SS won't be broke in the sense you claim. They will be able to pay over 70% of what they will owe in 2030 (or exactly whenever) and from there on out. And I would posit that it has been "our", as in the citizen's, fault that it is now facing these problems; when enacted it was intended to cover the last few years of your life and we have changed that to make it a retirement plan. We finally upped the age for benefits, but not in time (medicine advanced far quicker than the ages did).
And worse... they are making it cool again. In a water-cooler talk, someone said they heard that cigarettes are now so expensive it is considered a status symbol among kids. It's like the kids are saying "Yeah, I'm cool. I can afford 6 bucks a day".
Isn't that all part of it? You have to select the people that you want to do business with. Sure google could shut down gmail or docs tomorrow, but I don't think they will. Sure my ISP could close up shop, godaddy could blow up, my accountant might get hit by a bus...
You will never mitigate all the risks... but instead of me worrying about DNS, Hosting/Colo, the code, the server(s), the disk space, the db, the backups, and on and on and on... I have outsourced those worries to google in return for a small risk they may unexpectedly shut down some day. If you have taken the proper steps to mitigate that risk (simple offline backups of your docs/email) then you have no issues.
I certainly don't see this as a reason to start the evil mantra again.
I don't use it the way the GP describes, but the imaging software I have used will usually let you kick off a job over the network, but the data is on a partition on the computer. This does mean that someone could mess with that data, but bots aren't that smart yet, and most users couldn't do more than delete data (which is easily restored). It cuts down greatly on network usage; also I would assume you would need one hell of a server to push that out to more than a few dozen computers.
Your gonna threaten MS to remove the right to sell their product in your state? First, I don't think that would fly with the > 80% of voters that use MS products in that state (including the state govt, i'm sure). No second needed... but mod him up, brilliant idea!
Used my points already, but that was interesting to read.
How else would you notify the device playing music that you wish for the music to stop?
Well there has to be a full circuit... Simple switch that is always on when it has pressure, such as being jammed in your ear; when removed from the pressure the contact is broken and so is the circuit.
Bubb Rubb says "The whistles go WOOOOOO!"
Furthermore, changes are only pushed out every 15 seconds from the Google server, making real-time collaboration difficult.
Well that seems reasonable to me. What in the hell are doing to a text file that requires faster updates? That just seems like a mess, and something most companies/people wouldn't really want to do. Have you ever had someone fight you when you try to remote control a machine? That's what this sounds like.
First, we are talking about a book produced by the state to help lawyers understand the enigmatic laws of the state. That is sad enough. Now I don't like passive-aggressive actions, but the only other options are to pay for something that should be unnecessary and public domain, or to try to follow the laws and get it changed through direct challenge of these laws that are apparently so difficult to understand, therefore requiring you to purchase this book anyways.
However, the lack of a decent grammar checking package in oo is a real drawback for our students who are supposed to write research papers.
Uhhh... for students that are learning the proper way to write (or should have already), that sounds like a feature not a bug!
I converted two people in my office to Ubuntu recently
oreally?
he only thing they needed help with was installing the proprietary media codecs (and I should point out all I did was send them links). They installed Ubuntu themselves
I wouldn't be bragging too much... seems you picked the low hanging fruit and act like a god for doing so... Write back when you get grandma uploading pics from her digital camera to facebook on linux and playing movies.