Yes you have a good point in there, most of the telcos in third world make revenue from the service, they offer the glitzy phones and they tend to cost a lot more than the similar ones you can buy in a local shop. They usually give the cheapo ones for free, even without a contract, they just lock the band but you can unlock them for around 4usd.
Nokia 1100 fits that market, sturdy, simple and reliable. People like that phone so much that usually you would like to spend more on one of them than any other new model with similar specs, even color screen, also people like phones with useful features like great camera or mp3 player, it's very common to see people using N1100 and SonyEricssons Wxxx Kxxx / Razr combos. And yes, here we have 3G and similar technologies, iPhones? yes 300usd a pop, jailbreak-ed and ready for any of our tree operators, put the sim and go.
I think people love simple things that just work. Things like voice quality and strong reception are very valuable in third world and it's not a small market, around 65% than the (~25 million)here have at least 1 cellphone, way to more than the estimated 40% of land lines.
I agree theres plenty of Google-support for XP just Google "win xp problem help" vs. "win Vista problem help" and look in the number of results. It's a generic search.
Can you upload the list somewhere? I'd love to take a look since I'm not installing Vista any soon and I'm making a guide alas "100 Reasons You'll Be Speechless" http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/100reasons.mspx for clients insisting in installing Vista on their wooping Celeron Machines.
Maybe because it's some windows patch that will trigger the end of times (tm) You know, You don't want [insert deity] to come here to make accountability just to tell him: "sorry we just have this access bug in XP SP4 and... you have to wait for the patch" He'll piss off and you really don't want that.
Living in a third world country I think i can have some insight in what would happen when that OLPCs come here. Starting from the distribution, I know plenty of NGO workers and I agree, most of them don't give a heck about the real needs of the people, they just want them to learn about Marx and to avoid Coke... If it by government you can rest assured that some percentage of that PC will end under the bed of many relatives of political figures, those who will end in the hands of who they need them will be a blessing.. till the day theres nothing to eat and you have to sell the thing, heck.. In most places of my country kids walk 2+ hours to get to school everyday.. they pass rivers without bridges everyday to get to school or hang over a steel wire to cross a valley
An these kids are fortunate.. they look healthy, happy and even have uniforms... how would it be in places were kids don't even have that?....Look, I'm not saying that the OLPC effort is not a good thing (OS wars apart), I'm thankful for the people that first envisioned the idea and bring it into life. But I believe that the needs of the people in third world have some different priorities that would be hard to understand living in the first world. Yes, kids need education so they can bring development to their communities, a computer should be something that the state gives you free at age of 10 as a GLOBAL POLICY. Also from first hand I know that Edutainment does not promote the education, I put a set up with edubuntu or a 8 yo son of one of my clients, we all tough that was a great idea, the kid loved the thing.. just 3 months later my client called me to install winXP again because the kid messed with his academic year, he just passed the day playing.. but not learning, so yes, It can be a distraction because the kid in my example lives in the city, he can watch tv, go to movies, or waste the day in some "xbox cafe" and a lot of things that kids on "the jungle" can't do.
So It's sad that the things in real world are like that, I , for one, want to thank everyone involved in the project. I hope that it matures and adapts to the real needs of kids all over the world. I would be wise to set up something like an NGO ESPECIALLY DEDICATED t spread the OLPCs globally, so they can control the use and distribution of the computers.
mod parent troll.. don't know why all the bashing against the game (oh wait... is not running on xbox). I certainly have not played it... but your points are just lame.. AFAIK This game has an option to play it as FPS (all the game if You want).. and I have seen the first 30 seconds of the game and does not happen anything you're talking about. [I wanted to post a video from youtube but it says I have JavaScript blocked, since I don't have NoScript don't know whats happening.. anyway you can search for "MGS4 game play demo"]
I remember i have read an article about fungi spores that can live in space (vacuum, radiation etc) I couldn't find the article but this may fit as well: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/02/191229&tid=160 And anyone know if the atmosphere was so dense back then that would fry an incoming object?
You're true on (2) If Bush gets impeached, that will show the world that even after 2 successive errors you (The people of America) can stand up an make the good thing just like the world expect you to do being in the position of world "leadership". -- Not to mention the political blow to all sock puppet presidents around the globe.
Right now I'm writing this from an IBM Thinkpad A21m Using Ubuntu 8.04. Right in Live CD mode, Ubuntu configured all of my hardware, even Wifi, the mic, infrared can detect an old phone, No Wonder why Ubuntu have been chosen.
It's a dual boot, having the choice of Win 2K pro, Now I'm planing to install Wolvix in there, I have not so much problem with the speed in Ubuntu.. 256Mb should be enough for everyone (I know I need 512Mb but believe me it runs fine).
They don't need a choice. Arrogance is the word here. They just need to be alone. you're looking at living in that conditions as something bad because you wouldn't stand there for more than a week: You're hungry?.. go hunt... You're sick? go find the precise plant between thousands of possible poisonous plants. They don't need to be like you, (as much as I love tech) they don't need technology. I think that the mind set up of Americans to think that every part of the world should be like America it mere Arrogance.
Sorry As as parent posted, You have your own "uncontacted tribes" talk about drug dependency or alcoholism (People that need to be reintegrated into society).. just the fact that every kilo of coke you snort magically transforms into 5 Ak47's around here, and you know, you can kill a lot of people with them. OTOH If these indians go and hunt a puma, or paint their ass red, you will not be missing nothing, nobody gets hurt in America. Please learn to let the world go with their own flow. Thanks:)
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I'd buy one now
Just to see the face of any trendy client when he ask
-"nice phone it's a moto?"
- no! it's a Happy Joy Laughing Monster Phone
no? not funny? imagine how it sounds translated to Spanish
Yes you have a good point in there, most of the telcos in third world make revenue from the service, they offer the glitzy phones and they tend to cost a lot more than the similar ones you can buy in a local shop. They usually give the cheapo ones for free, even without a contract, they just lock the band but you can unlock them for around 4usd.
Nokia 1100 fits that market, sturdy, simple and reliable. People like that phone so much that usually you would like to spend more on one of them than any other new model with similar specs, even color screen, also people like phones with useful features like great camera or mp3 player, it's very common to see people using N1100 and SonyEricssons Wxxx Kxxx / Razr combos. And yes, here we have 3G and similar technologies, iPhones? yes 300usd a pop, jailbreak-ed and ready for any of our tree operators, put the sim and go.
I think people love simple things that just work. Things like voice quality and strong reception are very valuable in third world and it's not a small market, around 65% than the (~25 million)here have at least 1 cellphone, way to more than the estimated 40% of land lines.
an emo phone?
I agree theres plenty of Google-support for XP just Google "win xp problem help" vs. "win Vista problem help" and look in the number of results. It's a generic search.
Can you upload the list somewhere? I'd love to take a look since I'm not installing Vista any soon and I'm making a guide alas "100 Reasons You'll Be Speechless" http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/100reasons.mspx for clients insisting in installing Vista on their wooping Celeron Machines.
*sounds of golden flushing toilets*
But.. will it run ubuntu?
Maybe because it's some windows patch that will trigger the end of times (tm) You know, You don't want [insert deity] to come here to make accountability just to tell him: "sorry we just have this access bug in XP SP4 and... you have to wait for the patch" He'll piss off and you really don't want that.
no way! I'm on a P3 at 900mhz and 256 of ram running ubuntu and firefox 3 and behaves just fine.. perhaps this thing is haunted. What laptop was that?
do you want a $500 Ethernet cable with that?
Red color makes you salivate more... induces thirst AFAIK, Somebody in marketing psychology told me.
You just have described our present times in 4 lines.. hats off.
Living in a third world country I think i can have some insight in what would happen when that OLPCs come here. Starting from the distribution, I know plenty of NGO workers and I agree, most of them don't give a heck about the real needs of the people, they just want them to learn about Marx and to avoid Coke... If it by government you can rest assured that some percentage of that PC will end under the bed of many relatives of political figures, those who will end in the hands of who they need them will be a blessing.. till the day theres nothing to eat and you have to sell the thing, heck.. In most places of my country kids walk 2+ hours to get to school everyday.. they pass rivers without bridges everyday to get to school or hang over a steel wire to cross a valley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0LZeInblQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX0tcXk09kQ
An these kids are fortunate.. they look healthy, happy and even have uniforms... how would it be in places were kids don't even have that?....Look, I'm not saying that the OLPC effort is not a good thing (OS wars apart), I'm thankful for the people that first envisioned the idea and bring it into life. But I believe that the needs of the people in third world have some different priorities that would be hard to understand living in the first world. Yes, kids need education so they can bring development to their communities, a computer should be something that the state gives you free at age of 10 as a GLOBAL POLICY. Also from first hand I know that Edutainment does not promote the education, I put a set up with edubuntu or a 8 yo son of one of my clients, we all tough that was a great idea, the kid loved the thing.. just 3 months later my client called me to install winXP again because the kid messed with his academic year, he just passed the day playing.. but not learning, so yes, It can be a distraction because the kid in my example lives in the city, he can watch tv, go to movies, or waste the day in some "xbox cafe" and a lot of things that kids on "the jungle" can't do.
So It's sad that the things in real world are like that, I , for one, want to thank everyone involved in the project. I hope that it matures and adapts to the real needs of kids all over the world. I would be wise to set up something like an NGO ESPECIALLY DEDICATED t spread the OLPCs globally, so they can control the use and distribution of the computers.
cool video! I don't mind being rick rolled after seeing this... thanks.
mod parent troll.. don't know why all the bashing against the game (oh wait... is not running on xbox). I certainly have not played it... but your points are just lame.. AFAIK This game has an option to play it as FPS (all the game if You want).. and I have seen the first 30 seconds of the game and does not happen anything you're talking about. [I wanted to post a video from youtube but it says I have JavaScript blocked, since I don't have NoScript don't know whats happening.. anyway you can search for "MGS4 game play demo"]
I remember i have read an article about fungi spores that can live in space (vacuum, radiation etc) I couldn't find the article but this may fit as well: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/02/191229&tid=160
And anyone know if the atmosphere was so dense back then that would fry an incoming object?
so.. why do I have it right now? http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6682/ff3gb5.png it's mine the real 3?
You're talking about that it does not come ported for Linux? Spore could be nice on wine with that requirements. It's just a guess
You get it! they never miss one out, they've been empires even before the west was even "discovered" .. that "third world" thing it so confusing... ;)
You're true on (2) If Bush gets impeached, that will show the world that even after 2 successive errors you (The people of America) can stand up an make the good thing just like the world expect you to do being in the position of world "leadership". -- Not to mention the political blow to all sock puppet presidents around the globe.
That happened to Pinochet, he died peacefully in his home because his medical condition delayed all the process.
Right now I'm writing this from an IBM Thinkpad A21m Using Ubuntu 8.04. Right in Live CD mode, Ubuntu configured all of my hardware, even Wifi, the mic, infrared can detect an old phone, No Wonder why Ubuntu have been chosen.
.. 256Mb should be enough for everyone (I know I need 512Mb but believe me it runs fine).
It's a dual boot, having the choice of Win 2K pro, Now I'm planing to install Wolvix in there, I have not so much problem with the speed in Ubuntu
BTW I'm using Firefox 3no beta, no RC.. Updated just an hour ago! Why I haven't seen an article on this here? http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6682/ff3gb5.png
it's a trap!
They don't need a choice. Arrogance is the word here. They just need to be alone. you're looking at living in that conditions as something bad because you wouldn't stand there for more than a week: You're hungry?.. go hunt... You're sick? go find the precise plant between thousands of possible poisonous plants. They don't need to be like you, (as much as I love tech) they don't need technology. I think that the mind set up of Americans to think that every part of the world should be like America it mere Arrogance.
:)
Sorry As as parent posted, You have your own "uncontacted tribes" talk about drug dependency or alcoholism (People that need to be reintegrated into society).. just the fact that every kilo of coke you snort magically transforms into 5 Ak47's around here, and you know, you can kill a lot of people with them. OTOH If these indians go and hunt a puma, or paint their ass red, you will not be missing nothing, nobody gets hurt in America. Please learn to let the world go with their own flow. Thanks