In my American Polictic 101 Class, reading the book "Irony of Democracy" (very book good), it states that the average hour wage for workers has went down from over $8.00 per hour to just over $7 (7.14 IIRC) in less than 5 years.
It also has a theogry in there that the USA wants to become a global playerz (we aren't now), and the only way the coropartions see fit to do this, is my cutting works, lower wages and "Mega-mergering".
Man, my spelling is really bad today, it was extremely painful for me to type that sentance. Grammer-whores and Grammer-trolls, do your best.
So for $30 USD, I can test someone else buggy software? This is a God send! There are actucally companies paying me to test their software, that is crap. I want to not only receive non-payable for beta testing commerical products, but want to put my $30 to them for putting buggy software on the shelf.
$30 seems really cheap, maybe they should change per bug report you send it. Like $5 for each bug report you send in and $50 for each bug you find. Because if you find a bug, the company has to pay their programmers to go in a fix it before release, and this costs alot of money. With this apple method, not only can companies pay for the bug fixes, but they can also make a profit on it!!
Commericaliztion is GGgggggREAT!
If you mod me down, you aren't reading between the lines.
You know what this means don't you? I can compile in SSL support for commerical use into Apache and not have to pay C2 (the makers of stronghold) $1000 a license key!
$45 (or is it 90?) for the Server cert and you have a commerical proffesinal SSL server. If you want to use buzzwords "Ecommerce solution for $45 a year"!
Does HPUX run on X86 hardware? What is the price differant (just in hardware) between a pent 75 (or whatever they use) and what ever hardware HPUX runs on? IIRC HPUX servers don't come cheap
Say you body DID produce caffiene, after awhile your body would either become toterle or emune (god I can't spell) to caffiene to such an extent that you body would have to produce more, which it would come to toterlate as normal. Till one day you body would be in a state that caffiene would no longer have any noticeable effect (reguards of the dose). Then what the hell would you do for a caffiene buzz? Crank?
I would still donate my body to science for this. 3 hours to no sleep sounds like fun!
That are you are looking to far ahead into the vapor ware
Multiplayer is sweet. Use anything from a dial in modem to a full T3. User supplies the bandwidth.
Yeah, multiplayer is sweet. but guess what? even the "lowly" Dreamcast comes with a modem (optional Ethernet module for broadband soon) that'll let them play online -- they can even play against PCs in Quake III! Every console from here on out will have internet capability.
Yea let me get some of that modem. That fact is consoles that include modem only are going to suck big time. Quake III is really bad on 56K. Let me see you connect a deamcast to any cable modem provider, any DSL provider, any dedicated lines (T1, T3, ISDN) or even ethernet. Can a start a lan party with a bunch of dreamcasts? Can you play Quake3 on dreamcast off a unsat T1?
Right now the fastest thing I have seen in a console is a 56K dial up. Slow multiplayer games are nothing but painful to play.
And what about the other type of multiplayer? You know, the kind where you play against someone you actually know instead of some stranger across the country. Ever tried to play on a PC with your wife/brother/roomate/etc? What a pain! Consoles can make a party out of gaming.
Sure sitting around the sofa playing playstation games with your boys is fun for awhile, till that dam split screen gives everyone a headache.
Can I do a dual head on any console? Can I network in a LAN with any other consoles so everyone has there dedicated screen/machine?
Interface. PC has a lot more interfaces to offer from mouse, keyboard to joystick.
Welcome to the new millennium! Even the "lowly" Dreamcast has an optional keyboard and mouse. This is a non-issue.
How many games support this keyboard and mouse? Sitting on a sofa with a keyboard in your lap and a mouse on the coffee table doesn't sound like the most comfortable thing.
Patches: If you find a bug in a PC game, release a patch, no problem. Find a bug in a console game, huh huh your screwed.
Not anymore! Say hello to the hard drive-equipped X-box. As an aside, how many console games can you name that have bugs? The simplicity of the standard console platform makes bugs a much smaler issue on consoles.
Please post a link to ONE patch EVER released for any game on the console please.
Mods: Ever seen a Quake2 mod for the playstation?
Welcome to the console revolution! Internet connection + hard drive = mod capability. I think you've been locked in your room alone with your PC for too long.
Please post ONE Quake2 mode avaiable for ANY console platform.
Eye Candy: What can a TV do 320X240 res? Most PC games I play are at 1024X960.
Whew! Took us a while to get to a valid point. Yes, you are correct; TVs are only capable of 640x480 -- sub-par by today's PC standards. But when consoles start supporting HDTV, watch out!
Sure and what are these HDTV running at? I seen one that was 21" going for a little over $6,500. I could get a 25" monitor for cheaper than that.
Sound: TV speakers aren't the greatest. PC gamers supply there own speakers from that little beep speaker in the case to a $5000 home stero system.
What? How can you even bring this up with the plethora of excellent home theatre set-ups available? Would you rather watch the Matrix on a nice home theatre setup or your PC? That's what I thought.
What ever you put your game console on your PC can go on to, and oh yea you don't have to strain your eyes at the crappy blurry TV screen.
Play Diablo on the PC then try playing it on the Playstation, you will be disapointed.
I agree. Unfortunately, I think this statement shows that you're thinking about the history of consoles and not what's just around the corner.
What corner? It is all marketing hype and vaporware. Everyone has been talking about how the game console is going to kick the PC ass (since PRE-dreamcast) and I have YET to see ANYTHING worth a dam. Dreamcast blows chuncks so bad and everyone is saying oh did we say dreamcast we meant X-box.
Show me SOMETHING, ANYTHING that can even keep in PAR with a PC. I have seen nothing but hype.
PC are moving faster than console, and even if the X-box released today, the PC would blow it away in 3 months time. X-box is non-upgrade, 6 months past and the PC is a bad ass mofo, the X-box is starting to smell funny. 9 months past and the PC is getting even fast and the NEW PC GAME KILLER is starting to be hyped and marketed up.
PC can move faster than any console and are more flexiable. the console HAS NEVER been ahead of the PC and it will never be.
Please rent or buy these games and judge for yourself:
PC Playstation
Quake3 Quake2
Diablo 2 Diablo
How's that multiplayer working for you? How is that interface working for you? How is those graphic doing? How is that huge level depth doing for you?
By the time the X-box or any other console gets a game out that is as good as a PC version, it will be 3 months and in 3 months there will be a PC game that can kick it's ass.
console is so slow at everything, hope it dies soon.
Multiplayer is sweet. Use anything from a dial in modem to a full T3. User supplies the bandwidth.
Interface. PC has a lot more interfaces to offer from mouse, keyboard to joystick. Ever play the orginal Diablo on Playstation? Diablo sucks without a mouse.
Patches: If you find a bug in a PC game, release a patch, no problem. Find a bug in a console game, huh huh your screwed.
Mods: Ever seen a Quake2 mod for the playstation?
Eye Candy: What can a TV do 320X240 res? Most PC games I play are at 1024X960
Sound: TV speakers aren't the greatest. PC gamers supply there own speakers from that little beep speaker in the case to a $5000 home stero system.
Did I miss anything?
sure console has the advantage of being able to program for one set of hardware, but with things like Direct X and Glide, is this to much of a concern any more?
I really only see 2 advantages the console market has:
1) Also sitting on a nice comfortable sofa after a long day of sitting in a stiff chair is a bonus for the console. 2)Also being able to rent full version of console games for $2 is a sweet deal.
Play Diablo on the PC then try playing it on the Playstation, you will be disapointed.
MySQL is fun to play with, with all the zombies. I got a Level 24 Knight with a charge attack of 82 and def of 129! I killed the zombie king at the end of quest 4 in world 8 and it is still fun. MySQL kicks ass. Anyone want to trade a level 24 sword of fire (75 attack with 21 fire damage) for any decent helm that has over 23 def?
Apple doesn't run everything they do on Macs -- is that a testament to quality, suitability or history?
IMHO yes. Buy what you sell, sell what you buy. Apple has both a decent server (MacOS X) and workstation (MacOS), so why not?
Some sig I seen in a mailing list somewhere:
"Buy what you sell, sell what you buy" -- unknown
If you have seen Microsoft Marketing Machine (MMM) lately it is shouting out:
"Move from those old junk Unix servers to the Shiny NEW Windows 2000 for these reasons...." "It is easy to upgrade you old junk Unix servers to the Shiny NEW Windows 2000.... "
What are the departments inside of MS saying "We can't move to Windows 2000, there is NO reason" "Upgrading to Windows 2000 would be such a pain in the ass"
So the marketers are giving you one thing and the internal tech staff is saying another. Lies. Someone is lying. They need to sync up and what the "truth" is, or atleast what they will claim as the truth.
Depends on what you are talking about. Are you rating them on Techinal qualities? Money making qualities? What flavor they taste like? How many FPS they can get in Quake ASCII?
I personal think Unix is "superior" because on LSD it tastes like Blue. WinNT tastes like vomit, therefore "inferior". MacOS is the most "superior" because it tastes like apples.
Please define what you rating you defination of "superior" and "inferior" on.
why not inclose the robots in a bullproof, safety glass, plexglass transparent container? Or put then in a steal cage. Or take the crowd out and just have carmea's, all the metal flying, but no one gets hurt.
Anyone else thinks this looks like a "sleezy" OS? I don't know, I just got that first impression. That is the first word that came to my mind when I seen their home page. I haven't used it and am pretty sure it isn't "sleezy".
But I felt kinda dirty looking at the web site, when a co worker walked by I quickly closed the window, like it was porn. I don't do that with any other OS web site, including Microsoft and Sun's, well expect for the p0rn OS homepage.
Slashdot Mirror
There was a pimp in Taxi Driver?
Price of MP3 Player: $140
Price of Selling Slashdot nickname: $102
Total Price: $38
Dam tab key. Anyways sorry for the last post.
Note, at this time (Aug 31, 2000) the firmware does not yet support the DRAM. This means it will work without a SIMM
Does this mean it won't even work with a SIMM if you install one? For now, is putting a SIMM in it, just dead weight?
I am going to make a transpart case for mine and see if Apple will sue me.
Note, at this time (Aug 31, 2000) the firmware does not yet support the DRAM. This means it will work without a SIMM
In my American Polictic 101 Class, reading the book "Irony of Democracy" (very book good), it states that the average hour wage for workers has went down from over $8.00 per hour to just over $7 (7.14 IIRC) in less than 5 years.
It also has a theogry in there that the USA wants to become a global playerz (we aren't now), and the only way the coropartions see fit to do this, is my cutting works, lower wages and "Mega-mergering".
Man, my spelling is really bad today, it was extremely painful for me to type that sentance. Grammer-whores and Grammer-trolls, do your best.
So for $30 USD, I can test someone else buggy software? This is a God send! There are actucally companies paying me to test their software, that is crap. I want to not only receive non-payable for beta testing commerical products, but want to put my $30 to them for putting buggy software on the shelf.
$30 seems really cheap, maybe they should change per bug report you send it. Like $5 for each bug report you send in and $50 for each bug you find. Because if you find a bug, the company has to pay their programmers to go in a fix it before release, and this costs alot of money. With this apple method, not only can companies pay for the bug fixes, but they can also make a profit on it!!
Commericaliztion is GGgggggREAT!
If you mod me down, you aren't reading between the lines.
I guess I told you wrong. I got mine from Thawte last year some, I guess it was probably around $125. I was probably thinking of internic.
sorry my bad.
YES!
You know what this means don't you? I can compile in SSL support for commerical use into Apache and not have to pay C2 (the makers of stronghold) $1000 a license key!
$45 (or is it 90?) for the Server cert and you have a commerical proffesinal SSL server. If you want to use buzzwords "Ecommerce solution for $45 a year"!
good point
If HPUX is so good - why are they using Linux?
Does HPUX run on X86 hardware? What is the price differant (just in hardware) between a pent 75 (or whatever they use) and what ever hardware HPUX runs on? IIRC HPUX servers don't come cheap
What if I want to print my IRC logs out at 20 pages per minute!
Every try and print an entire slashdot story with all the comments on a lousy "home consumer" bubble jet?
and a caffiene and napster blurb...
Oh and where the hell is John Katz bitching about "Geek Rights" when you need him?!? This is a DIRECT ATTACK from HP on geekrights.
sorry to nit pick, but won't it be
H++;P++
??
Say you body DID produce caffiene, after awhile your body would either become toterle or emune (god I can't spell) to caffiene to such an extent that you body would have to produce more, which it would come to toterlate as normal. Till one day you body would be in a state that caffiene would no longer have any noticeable effect (reguards of the dose). Then what the hell would you do for a caffiene buzz? Crank?
I would still donate my body to science for this. 3 hours to no sleep sounds like fun!
PC have ALOT of offer compared to console:
Your not keeping up, are you?
That are you are looking to far ahead into the vapor ware
Multiplayer is sweet. Use anything from a dial in modem to a full T3. User supplies the bandwidth.
Yeah, multiplayer is sweet. but guess what? even the "lowly" Dreamcast comes with a modem (optional Ethernet module for broadband soon) that'll let them play online -- they can even play against PCs in Quake III! Every console from here on out will have internet capability.
Yea let me get some of that modem. That fact is consoles that include modem only are going to suck big time. Quake III is really bad on 56K. Let me see you connect a deamcast to any cable modem provider, any DSL provider, any dedicated lines (T1, T3, ISDN) or even ethernet. Can a start a lan party with a bunch of dreamcasts? Can you play Quake3 on dreamcast off a unsat T1?
Right now the fastest thing I have seen in a console is a 56K dial up. Slow multiplayer games are nothing but painful to play.
And what about the other type of multiplayer? You know, the kind where you play against someone you actually know instead of some stranger across the country. Ever tried to play on a PC with your wife/brother/roomate/etc? What a pain! Consoles can make a party out of gaming.
Sure sitting around the sofa playing playstation games with your boys is fun for awhile, till that dam split screen gives everyone a headache.
Can I do a dual head on any console? Can I network in a LAN with any other consoles so everyone has there dedicated screen/machine?
Interface. PC has a lot more interfaces to offer from mouse, keyboard to joystick.
Welcome to the new millennium! Even the "lowly" Dreamcast has an optional keyboard and mouse. This is a non-issue.
How many games support this keyboard and mouse? Sitting on a sofa with a keyboard in your lap and a mouse on the coffee table doesn't sound like the most comfortable thing.
Patches: If you find a bug in a PC game, release a patch, no problem. Find a bug in a console game, huh huh your screwed.
Not anymore! Say hello to the hard drive-equipped X-box. As an aside, how many console games can you name that have bugs? The simplicity of the standard console platform makes bugs a much smaler issue on consoles.
Please post a link to ONE patch EVER released for any game on the console please.
Mods: Ever seen a Quake2 mod for the playstation?
Welcome to the console revolution! Internet connection + hard drive = mod capability. I think you've been locked in your room alone with your PC for too long.
Please post ONE Quake2 mode avaiable for ANY console platform.
Eye Candy: What can a TV do 320X240 res? Most PC games I play are at 1024X960.
Whew! Took us a while to get to a valid point. Yes, you are correct; TVs are only capable of 640x480 -- sub-par by today's PC standards. But when consoles start supporting HDTV, watch out!
Sure and what are these HDTV running at? I seen one that was 21" going for a little over $6,500. I could get a 25" monitor for cheaper than that.
Sound: TV speakers aren't the greatest. PC gamers supply there own speakers from that little beep speaker in the case to a $5000 home stero system.
What? How can you even bring this up with the plethora of excellent home theatre set-ups available? Would you rather watch the Matrix on a nice home theatre setup or your PC? That's what I thought.
What ever you put your game console on your PC can go on to, and oh yea you don't have to strain your eyes at the crappy blurry TV screen.
Play Diablo on the PC then try playing it on the Playstation, you will be disapointed.
I agree. Unfortunately, I think this statement shows that you're thinking about the history of consoles and not what's just around the corner.
What corner? It is all marketing hype and vaporware. Everyone has been talking about how the game console is going to kick the PC ass (since PRE-dreamcast) and I have YET to see ANYTHING worth a dam. Dreamcast blows chuncks so bad and everyone is saying oh did we say dreamcast we meant X-box.
Show me SOMETHING, ANYTHING that can even keep in PAR with a PC. I have seen nothing but hype.
PC are moving faster than console, and even if the X-box released today, the PC would blow it away in 3 months time. X-box is non-upgrade, 6 months past and the PC is a bad ass mofo, the X-box is starting to smell funny. 9 months past and the PC is getting even fast and the NEW PC GAME KILLER is starting to be hyped and marketed up.
PC can move faster than any console and are more flexiable. the console HAS NEVER been ahead of the PC and it will never be.
Please rent or buy these games and judge for yourself:
PC Playstation
Quake3 Quake2
Diablo 2 Diablo
How's that multiplayer working for you? How is that interface working for you? How is those graphic doing? How is that huge level depth doing for you?
By the time the X-box or any other console gets a game out that is as good as a PC version, it will be 3 months and in 3 months there will be a PC game that can kick it's ass.
console is so slow at everything, hope it dies soon.
Is there a Mike Roch in here, anyone seen Mike Roch?
you mean slashdot posted bunk information, what is the world coming to? If I can trust slashdot who on this planet can I trust?
They are all against me now.
PC have ALOT of offer compared to console:
Multiplayer is sweet. Use anything from a dial in modem to a full T3. User supplies the bandwidth.
Interface. PC has a lot more interfaces to offer from mouse, keyboard to joystick. Ever play the orginal Diablo on Playstation? Diablo sucks without a mouse.
Patches: If you find a bug in a PC game, release a patch, no problem. Find a bug in a console game, huh huh your screwed.
Mods: Ever seen a Quake2 mod for the playstation?
Eye Candy: What can a TV do 320X240 res? Most PC games I play are at 1024X960
Sound: TV speakers aren't the greatest. PC gamers supply there own speakers from that little beep speaker in the case to a $5000 home stero system.
Did I miss anything?
sure console has the advantage of being able to program for one set of hardware, but with things like Direct X and Glide, is this to much of a concern any more?
I really only see 2 advantages the console market has:
1) Also sitting on a nice comfortable sofa after a long day of sitting in a stiff chair is a bonus for the console. 2)Also being able to rent full version of console games for $2 is a sweet deal.
Play Diablo on the PC then try playing it on the Playstation, you will be disapointed.
MySQL is fun to play with, with all the zombies. I got a Level 24 Knight with a charge attack of 82 and def of 129! I killed the zombie king at the end of quest 4 in world 8 and it is still fun. MySQL kicks ass. Anyone want to trade a level 24 sword of fire (75 attack with 21 fire damage) for any decent helm that has over 23 def?
Apple doesn't run everything they do on Macs -- is that a testament to quality, suitability or history?
...." "It is easy to upgrade you old junk Unix servers to the Shiny NEW Windows 2000 .... "
IMHO yes. Buy what you sell, sell what you buy. Apple has both a decent server (MacOS X) and workstation (MacOS), so why not?
Some sig I seen in a mailing list somewhere:
"Buy what you sell, sell what you buy" -- unknown
If you have seen Microsoft Marketing Machine (MMM) lately it is shouting out:
"Move from those old junk Unix servers to the Shiny NEW Windows 2000 for these reasons
What are the departments inside of MS saying "We can't move to Windows 2000, there is NO reason" "Upgrading to Windows 2000 would be such a pain in the ass"
So the marketers are giving you one thing and the internal tech staff is saying another. Lies. Someone is lying. They need to sync up and what the "truth" is, or atleast what they will claim as the truth.
Depends on what you are talking about. Are you rating them on Techinal qualities? Money making qualities? What flavor they taste like? How many FPS they can get in Quake ASCII?
I personal think Unix is "superior" because on LSD it tastes like Blue. WinNT tastes like vomit, therefore "inferior". MacOS is the most "superior" because it tastes like apples.
Please define what you rating you defination of "superior" and "inferior" on.
why not inclose the robots in a bullproof, safety glass, plexglass transparent container? Or put then in a steal cage. Or take the crowd out and just have carmea's, all the metal flying, but no one gets hurt.
Apple is suing for this transparent design, they claim it infinriges on there iMac model.
Anyone else thinks this looks like a "sleezy" OS? I don't know, I just got that first impression. That is the first word that came to my mind when I seen their home page. I haven't used it and am pretty sure it isn't "sleezy".
But I felt kinda dirty looking at the web site, when a co worker walked by I quickly closed the window, like it was porn. I don't do that with any other OS web site, including Microsoft and Sun's, well expect for the p0rn OS homepage.
um, 2000? no no that isn't my final answer.