Actually, it uses lsof and a few other niceties to locate open files that change over time, then scans them for presence of time/date stamps, mailaddress or other "log" activity.
So, no, its not just "locate log" that somone suggested, nor is it "find/var/log" either, but a bit more complex.
As for the comment about competent site-admin. This is a bit more than that too, its also about users and active software, peoples IRC logs, various ftp clients that clobber up and log passwords along with everything else in their config dir. And so on and so forth.
Then update comes along. New configfile format that requires an update. New configfile also requires some configuration, like say. Your Ip number.
then you either update automatically, and miss that leftover "die" in the config, or you don't and reboot the machine.
in any case, it requires intervention, or you're off in the cold.
no, Gentoo , as good as it is, isn't the automagical solution to everything. please don't tout it as if it would be, all cases like this require an administrator to do it. A Good Linux in this case would be deploy once and wouldn't require updates for a Long Time.
It would be a small and specific set of packages, and only Just That. When the update comes along, an updater-tool migrates all changed configs. And all things/* Hah! */
The plethora of alternatives that Debian, Gentoo, Fedora and others supply invites more complexity. keeping things simple means less work on updating and less administrator effort.
The devs have so far promised that they will not delete game accounts until after a few months of idle-time.
This should mean that you can keep your character, account and everything while you don't pay, and then come back and pay another month for your account and keep playing.
However, I guess they will implement some kind of "pruning" of "dead" accounts after a while (as perhaps with the free trial accounts that don't pay for subscription) , since thats basically what I would do in a case like this.
Its Twitch based FPS, you ship is your sole avatar. There is a level-grind with missions to unlock the avaiability of higher level ships (basically, lighter mass, some various tradeships that carry more cargo and so on) but its light enough that I can do it in a couple of hours.
There is even more concern that various factions in space actually have to -like- you in order to sell you the improved versions of ships, sure. anywhere where you aren't a criminal will sell you a ship. But the price might be high, and you won't get that low-mass a bit more agile and a bit improved hull version.
(And if you're branded criminal / KOS ? good luck. They'll do their best to kill you;)
However, the game is entirely skillbased when it comes to space-combat. There is not an uberness of strike +100 vorpal rockets, nor can you buff your ship more than anyone just because you've been grinding for two days.
And you can't auto-grind either, since you actually pilot your ship in the FPS sense.
As for the games status, I've seen it change quite a bit (early tester / alpha) with a small devteam (4 people) who actually listen to the community (and partake ingame). Garage style development, with a fairly solid base.
oh. And appearantly it will go live on monday, which I rather regret. No more free game for me:(
So, this is a progression of the age-old idea of a rootkit. A program installed with administrator (root,superuser,avatar) rights to remotley control the machine.
Admitted, this one looks a bit more aggressive than some (running jack the ripper on the md5 passwords is blatant and obvious) but this is hardly any news for anyone.
What strikes me as confusing is that Mac users aren't used to this already? It's been standard issue with all Unix, Windows and some BeOS applications, that people would post "faked" binaries of some popular software that would instead own the system completely. Or for that matter, latch them on to an existing download, the same way spyware does in windows.
Overall, this isn't self-replicating, its blatantly obvious and appears quite easy to recover from. Don't fret.
the price seems to be on a difficulty scale, and gaim integration is harder. And gaim isn't an official Gnome project, and as I've understood it doesn't want to introduce Gnome dependencies.
According to IRC (ergo, its a rumour) Novell donated 25k to Gnome Foundation to setup this. Gnome Foundation then organized it and push it along with doing the screening and judging.
Actually, its on a tight timeframe, the rules state that it has to be officially accepted into CVS, follow clean code and be nice.
People may cooperate, but unite behind one front-man.
This means that a lot of hacking will go on in the shadows, then pour out "when its done", Just like usual. Since the code has to pass the module maintainers eyes, form and correctness will be ensured.
Overall I think this is a great incentive. (Compare this to Abiword and the patchbounty, for example )
if you already have alsa installed for 2.4 its a breeze, just tag the 2.6 kernel to build the alsa sound stuff as modules (include oss emulation) and remove the native OSS support.
Well need to note, you still need the alsa-lib, but they don't need to be changed just because you are bouncing kernels.
This might prove interesting.. I found it hard to know where in the discussion to tuck it, but here seems good since Linus touches on the part of "new features" and so on.
No, Suspend to Ram BROKE with 180.x series and worked with 17x series.
Actually, it uses lsof and a few other niceties to locate open files that change over time, then scans them for presence of time/date stamps, mailaddress or other "log" activity.
/var/log" either, but a bit more complex.
So, no, its not just "locate log" that somone suggested, nor is it "find
As for the comment about competent site-admin. This is a bit more than that too, its also about users and active software, peoples IRC logs, various ftp clients that clobber up and log passwords along with everything else in their config dir. And so on and so forth.
AGH!
:
/* Hah! */" /* Hah! */
plain-old-text removed my bracket emphasis!
"New configfile format that.."
was
New "foo daemon" configfile format that..
"And all things
Was:
And all things "just work"
Then update comes along. New configfile format that requires an update. New configfile also requires some configuration, like say. Your Ip number.
/* Hah! */
then you either update automatically, and miss that leftover "die" in the config, or you don't and reboot the machine.
in any case, it requires intervention, or you're off in the cold.
no, Gentoo , as good as it is, isn't the automagical solution to everything. please don't tout it as if it would be, all cases like this require an administrator to do it. A Good Linux in this case would be deploy once and wouldn't require updates for a Long Time.
It would be a small and specific set of packages, and only Just That. When the update comes along, an updater-tool migrates all changed configs. And all things
The plethora of alternatives that Debian, Gentoo, Fedora and others supply invites more complexity. keeping things simple means less work on updating and less administrator effort.
The devs have so far promised that they will not delete game accounts until after a few months of idle-time.
This should mean that you can keep your character, account and everything while you don't pay, and then come back and pay another month for your account and keep playing.
However, I guess they will implement some kind of "pruning" of "dead" accounts after a while (as perhaps with the free trial accounts that don't pay for subscription) , since thats basically what I would do in a case like this.
If you want, I could ask the devs?
Oh that too :)
:)
and it can play ogg playlists from ingame as well
Oh, I forgot to say:
its a first person shooter style game : )
Tux on the box
Same price for all platforms
Fastpaced game action with PvP
Skillbased combat system, not "most expensive stuff wins"
Fastpaced, no "point, click, wait"
Minimal grinding (no hoursof waiting for the minings)
Developer contact. Several player ideas have been implemented, some within days
Developers actually ingame
Unfortunately addictive
Might I introduce you to Vendetta Online?
Its Twitch based FPS, you ship is your sole avatar. There is a level-grind with missions to unlock the avaiability of higher level ships (basically, lighter mass, some various tradeships that carry more cargo and so on) but its light enough that I can do it in a couple of hours.
There is even more concern that various factions in space actually have to -like- you in order to sell you the improved versions of ships, sure. anywhere where you aren't a criminal will sell you a ship. But the price might be high, and you won't get that low-mass a bit more agile and a bit improved hull version.
(And if you're branded criminal / KOS ? good luck. They'll do their best to kill youHowever, the game is entirely skillbased when it comes to space-combat. There is not an uberness of strike +100 vorpal rockets, nor can you buff your ship more than anyone just because you've been grinding for two days.
And you can't auto-grind either, since you actually pilot your ship in the FPS sense.
As for the games status, I've seen it change quite a bit (early tester / alpha) with a small devteam (4 people) who actually listen to the community (and partake ingame). Garage style development, with a fairly solid base.
oh. And appearantly it will go live on monday, which I rather regret. No more free game for me :(
*chuckle*
So, this is a progression of the age-old idea of a rootkit. A program installed with administrator (root,superuser,avatar) rights to remotley control the machine.
Admitted, this one looks a bit more aggressive than some (running jack the ripper on the md5 passwords is blatant and obvious) but this is hardly any news for anyone.
What strikes me as confusing is that Mac users aren't used to this already? It's been standard issue with all Unix, Windows and some BeOS applications, that people would post "faked" binaries of some popular software that would instead own the system completely. Or for that matter, latch them on to an existing download, the same way spyware does in windows.
Overall, this isn't self-replicating, its blatantly obvious and appears quite easy to recover from. Don't fret.
viml pheed
openssh
lftp
zsh
nethack
fortune-mod
sy
mplayer
rhythmbox
openbox
well. Its Netgear. The same netgear that says that their Gig-E cards don't support multiple network connections.
*cough*
http://dev.gentoo.org/~spider/netgear.txt
Well, as they state themselves :
http://gentoo.org/~spider/netgear.txt
( Ichi the Killer )
;)
Blood, gore, and sadistic violence, sets a very different mood if you can laugh about that sort of thing. (I guess it depends on your company..
aaagh.. But but.. they can't do this, can they?
... never? No.. please?
*Whimper*
*Whine*
*snif*
I've wasted hours and hours on the previous games, I even invested time in Fallout Tactics (all in wine, yes)...
I admit that i thought Fallout3 was a ways into the future, but
the price seems to be on a difficulty scale, and gaim integration is harder. And gaim isn't an official Gnome project, and as I've understood it doesn't want to introduce Gnome dependencies.
According to IRC (ergo, its a rumour) Novell donated 25k to Gnome Foundation to setup this. Gnome Foundation then organized it and push it along with doing the screening and judging.
Actually, its on a tight timeframe, the rules state that it has to be officially accepted into CVS, follow clean code and be nice.
People may cooperate, but unite behind one front-man.
This means that a lot of hacking will go on in the shadows, then pour out "when its done", Just like usual. Since the code has to pass the module maintainers eyes, form and correctness will be ensured.
Overall I think this is a great incentive. (Compare this to Abiword and the patchbounty, for example )
Nope.
The song "Vision Thing" by The Sisters of Mercy. It's even from the album "Vision Thing" .
There is. it's called the BSA. And if you'd been around a while you'd see that the /. crowd is as rabid about them as about anything else.
Oh yes. BMG can really produce wonders. Like producing bugs for software that doesn't exist.
no., curl -O will output to file /dev/null and you have it right.
no option to curl and pipe into
if you already have alsa installed for 2.4 its a breeze, just tag the 2.6 kernel to build the alsa sound stuff as modules (include oss emulation) and remove the native OSS support.
Well need to note, you still need the alsa-lib, but they don't need to be changed just because you are bouncing kernels.
I have to agree. This trap which is the sk. "Software Patents" needs to be stopped before its sprung here in EU as well.
This might prove interesting.. I found it hard to know where in the discussion to tuck it, but here seems good since Linus touches on the part of "new features" and so on.
here at lwn