You mean it's not supposed to be like that? Man, I should really stop throwing my Playstation 2 against the wall when I fail missions and stop using my game disks as coasters for ceramic mugs.
I just noticed something a little disturbing about that webpage. Did you notice that under the NBC logo it says "is furious about playstation piracy"
We're not furious at the piracy, we're furious at how the DMCA is being used to throw people in jail for 10 years for modifying other's hardware with permission. He was not arrested for piracy...
Bus Driver: Well, not me personally but a guy I know. Him and her *got it on*. Wooo-eee!
Billy Madison: No, they didn't.
Bus Driver: No, no, no they didn't. But you could imagine what it'd be like if they did, right...? Everybody on, good, great, grand, wonderful. No yelling on the bus!
Dogs look at you and think "you feed me, you clean me, you pick up after me... you must be god!" Cats look at you and think "you feed me, you clean me, you pick up after me... I must be god!"
Perhaps some people have an easier time becoming immersed in a game. I've played a number of games that allowed me to become immersed in them (mostly RPGs, and a few from other genres), and essentially identify myself with the main character.
They don't necessarily need great graphics, or sound for that matter. They need storyline and character development. They need relatively smooth gameplay, with very few and short delays. The control scheme needs to be such that after a while it becomes transparent... almost a reflex. If you have to think about how you need to use the controller to do a specific task even after hours of gameplay, I'd say the developer failed on the controls. Removing external distraction helps in becoming immersed as well.
You should try to feel like a character in a game. It may enhance the experience for you. Yes, we know you is where your consciousness lives, but wouldn't it be nice to let it visit another time and place once in a while? If not, why are you playing the game when you're life is obviously more exciting than it?
Noooo! It's all lies! Bathrooms are there for fully clothed bathing, brushing teeth and decoration only! I feel my mind corrupting! Make it stop! I know...
If you just think of the bits stored in the brain, perhaps you'd overestimate the pure storage of it due to the brains automatic decompression (by the methods listed in parent post) of the data. The link to geocities seems like it may overestimate due to the assumption that all synapse junctions represent 8 bits (256 levels) of *recoverable* data (though they give the possibility of storage at the molecular level). It also does not distinguish parts of the brain that can possibly store data with parts that have more a computational purpose.
Perhaps we should use an estimate by studying how much data with extremely low entropy/redundancy someone can memorize. 83,431 digits of pi were recited by Akira Haraguchi. Each digit is worth essentially 3.3 bits, so that makes it around 275000 bits. Of course, he knows a lot more than just the digits of pi, but that's how much "brain space" he was able to "allocate" to memorizing pi.
Perhaps if we could determine the average number of memories a person can remember and the average bits to store the average memory (compressed, of course), then we could come up with another estimate. Though this would ignore any type of specialized memory.
But really, I have no idea. Of course, if you don't care about recovering data with any type of speed then you could store everything as just an array of atoms or subatomic particles.
As for the doors and doorknobs example, are you sure the toddler never watched you use a door before they got to try it? Learning by imitation (which seems innate) is a powerful thing. I think AI research will keep bootstrapping along, but the development of true AI does seem like a rather impossible goal. How would you program consciousness anyway? Could it ever truly be conscious/sentient? Then again... are we just complex computers? What is our subconscious doing? Perhaps it is more like a machine interpreting code than we think. And perhaps *SEGMENTATION FAULT*
Did anyone else envision a school bus with rows of toilets as seats?
Pee-as-fuel could work to reduce pit stops on long drives. Car seat toilets would create boundless awkward moments though. "Just a second officer, *grunt* *wince*... aaahhh. What were you saying again?" "Get out of the car... but don't forget to wipe first!"
Oh bathroom humor... is there anything it can't do?
The real question, however, is determining whether the cat will be alive, dead, both, or can has cheezburger before opening the bag again to check on it.
Wow... looking at how the responses to this post are rated, I've gotta get in on the action. +5 insightful/interesting coming my way! Oh yeah! (who knew it was as easy as responding to a troll?)
And, um... EULA... pirates... NYCL will save us (no offense to NYCL intended, keep fighting the good fight)... copyright... hypocrisy... $2M for 24?... Disney... public domain... MAFIAA
And just for good measure... FSM (blessed be his noodly appendages)... creationists... evolution... Godwin'd... RTFA!... In Soviet Russia, Slashdot "FIRST POST!"'s you!... Get off my lawn...
Agreed. We need to move away from games that have you faking seizures in front of your TV and back to games that actually produce real ones!
Promptly remove yourself from the grassy portion of my yard!
p.s. Wouldn't it be great if this replaced "goodbye" for old people in the future? Reminds me of the "smell ya later" episode of the Simpsons. "Smell ya later, Bart. Smell ya later, forever..."
Slashdot Mirror
I Hate - about 99,200,000
I Love - about 534,000,000
I - about 8,480,000,000
Hate - about 198,000,000
Love - about 1,570,000,000
pizza - about 145,000,000
noodly - about 182,000
I clearly see that you can also use the google machine ;)
I believe you misheard. Those rat brain cells were harvested from dead rats, and they were stating how they died.... AtE-TeR-MiN-Ex! AtE-TeR-MiN-Ex!
You mean it's not supposed to be like that? Man, I should really stop throwing my Playstation 2 against the wall when I fail missions and stop using my game disks as coasters for ceramic mugs.
Hey eLaFER, have you seen fluffy?
evil, Lying and Flesh Eating Robot: No. ...
Hmm. That name makes me think of a robotic flesh eating Joker character. "Why so delicious?"
Ya know, the unemployment rate is bad enough right now without ghosts taking jobs from living writers.
But, how would they feel if the living started haunting each other? Turnabout is fair play. Oh wait, we do... it's called stalking.
Zap: "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised."
I just noticed something a little disturbing about that webpage. Did you notice that under the NBC logo it says "is furious about playstation piracy"
We're not furious at the piracy, we're furious at how the DMCA is being used to throw people in jail for 10 years for modifying other's hardware with permission. He was not arrested for piracy...
I'm sure they're furious on the inside. Either that or they didn't RTFA.
Messing with a pompous CEO - Priceless (but free with coupon code!)
Bus Driver: Well, not me personally but a guy I know. Him and her *got it on*. Wooo-eee!
Billy Madison: No, they didn't.
Bus Driver: No, no, no they didn't. But you could imagine what it'd be like if they did, right...? Everybody on, good, great, grand, wonderful. No yelling on the bus!
pizza.... french fries.... pizza.... french fries....
The lion wouldn't know you. Perhaps if it did...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvCjyWp3rEk
nuff said.
Dogs look at you and think "you feed me, you clean me, you pick up after me... you must be god!"
Cats look at you and think "you feed me, you clean me, you pick up after me... I must be god!"
Perhaps some people have an easier time becoming immersed in a game. I've played a number of games that allowed me to become immersed in them (mostly RPGs, and a few from other genres), and essentially identify myself with the main character.
They don't necessarily need great graphics, or sound for that matter. They need storyline and character development. They need relatively smooth gameplay, with very few and short delays. The control scheme needs to be such that after a while it becomes transparent... almost a reflex. If you have to think about how you need to use the controller to do a specific task even after hours of gameplay, I'd say the developer failed on the controls. Removing external distraction helps in becoming immersed as well.
You should try to feel like a character in a game. It may enhance the experience for you. Yes, we know you is where your consciousness lives, but wouldn't it be nice to let it visit another time and place once in a while? If not, why are you playing the game when you're life is obviously more exciting than it?
Noooo! It's all lies! Bathrooms are there for fully clothed bathing, brushing teeth and decoration only! I feel my mind corrupting! Make it stop! I know...
Everyone likes being happy
Whew.... that was a close one.
If you just think of the bits stored in the brain, perhaps you'd overestimate the pure storage of it due to the brains automatic decompression (by the methods listed in parent post) of the data. The link to geocities seems like it may overestimate due to the assumption that all synapse junctions represent 8 bits (256 levels) of *recoverable* data (though they give the possibility of storage at the molecular level). It also does not distinguish parts of the brain that can possibly store data with parts that have more a computational purpose.
Perhaps we should use an estimate by studying how much data with extremely low entropy/redundancy someone can memorize. 83,431 digits of pi were recited by Akira Haraguchi. Each digit is worth essentially 3.3 bits, so that makes it around 275000 bits. Of course, he knows a lot more than just the digits of pi, but that's how much "brain space" he was able to "allocate" to memorizing pi.
Perhaps if we could determine the average number of memories a person can remember and the average bits to store the average memory (compressed, of course), then we could come up with another estimate. Though this would ignore any type of specialized memory.
But really, I have no idea. Of course, if you don't care about recovering data with any type of speed then you could store everything as just an array of atoms or subatomic particles.
As for the doors and doorknobs example, are you sure the toddler never watched you use a door before they got to try it? Learning by imitation (which seems innate) is a powerful thing. I think AI research will keep bootstrapping along, but the development of true AI does seem like a rather impossible goal. How would you program consciousness anyway? Could it ever truly be conscious/sentient? Then again... are we just complex computers? What is our subconscious doing? Perhaps it is more like a machine interpreting code than we think. And perhaps *SEGMENTATION FAULT*
Did anyone else envision a school bus with rows of toilets as seats?
Pee-as-fuel could work to reduce pit stops on long drives. Car seat toilets would create boundless awkward moments though. "Just a second officer, *grunt* *wince*... aaahhh. What were you saying again?" "Get out of the car... but don't forget to wipe first!"
Oh bathroom humor... is there anything it can't do?
Do you really want those awkward moments when you walk into the room and see the game playing with itself? "It's not what it looks like!"
Soon the game's multiplayer modes will atrophy and it will start "first post!"ing on /.
The real question, however, is determining whether the cat will be alive, dead, both, or can has cheezburger before opening the bag again to check on it.
Wow... looking at how the responses to this post are rated, I've gotta get in on the action. +5 insightful/interesting coming my way! Oh yeah! (who knew it was as easy as responding to a troll?)
And, um... EULA... pirates... NYCL will save us (no offense to NYCL intended, keep fighting the good fight)... copyright... hypocrisy... $2M for 24?... Disney... public domain... MAFIAA
And just for good measure... FSM (blessed be his noodly appendages)... creationists... evolution... Godwin'd... RTFA!... In Soviet Russia, Slashdot "FIRST POST!"'s you!... Get off my lawn...
There goes my karma....
Using portal bumping you can get out of certain levels. I remember climbing around on top of one level for a while.
Agreed. We need to move away from games that have you faking seizures in front of your TV and back to games that actually produce real ones!
Promptly remove yourself from the grassy portion of my yard!
p.s. Wouldn't it be great if this replaced "goodbye" for old people in the future? Reminds me of the "smell ya later" episode of the Simpsons. "Smell ya later, Bart. Smell ya later, forever..."
"The meteor that will kill that dinosaur is out in orbit."
But will we have enough freedom to push back once the government micromanages all aspects of our lives?
"No time like the present"
Another **AA? When is this one going to start suing random people and sending out threatening letters?
And they even named themselves HIP AA in an attempt to appeal to the younger crowd... just sad...