Bullshit. Almost every single downmodding that occurs on Slashdot is completely unjustified (usually politically or ideologically motivated), as this discussion thread proves again and again.
Your first post is clearly a troll by stating that/.'s mod system is broken
Pointing out the irrefutable fact that the system is broken does not constitute trolling or flamebaiting.
furthermore, it is not a fact (no matter how much anecdotal evidence you offer), but rather, your opinion.
Please. My karma went from excellent to terrible in a matter of hours only because I dared to point out that the moderating system is broken. The evidence is right here in plain sight.
Your other N-1 posts (all but the first) are meta-troll and/or meta-flamebait posts; in each post, you argue that the first post shouldn't have been downmodded for being troll/flamebait, thus sparking a useless discussion about trolls and flamebaits and/.'s mod system.
Perhaps there would be no need to do so if I wasn't constantly downmodded for no reason by corrupt thugs.
I like how Slashdotters are always up in arms about the Outrage of the Day, like Microsoft continuing to exist or the Brits installing CCTVS, yet any bullshit done by Slashdotters gets a completely free pass. Talk about hypocrisy.
how can you explain giving a twelfth of your life away to an organisation obsessed with harassing, repressing, dividing, locking in, shutting out, abusing and killing people for the sole reason that they lived in your country before your parents/grand-parents arrived and drove them off their land?
You left out the part where IDF soldiers open a portal to Hell and send them Palestinian babies in exchange for gold. Then they high five each other.
See, it's this kind of reasoning that gives people the incentive to go and do terrorist attacks.
I've heard this a million times before. Whenever someone suggests a new counter-terrorism measure some Muslim spokesperson (self-appointed or otherwise) says "you shouldn't do this because it will "alienate" people and make them terrorists" which of course translates to "don't try to prevent us from blowing shit up or we'll blow some shit up." The only option, it seems, is to just submit.
I fail to grasp how the idea of killing millions of people you never met can be so attractive to so many people.
See how I got modded flamebait? This is the modus operandi of leftists. They can't debate because they know they're full of shit. That's why they have to resort to censorship. Mod down anyone who speaks the truth and less people will see their posts, and in time their karma will drop so they can't post as many messages, and so forth.
Slashdot is nothing more than a left-wing echo chamber.
This has everything to do with the yellow patches. In Israel, we give Palestinians green or orange ID cards (regular citizen is blue). This is a "second class citizen" card aimed to distinguish a real citizen from a non-person, just as the yellow patches were meant to do. If this database contains info on a persons religion and race (like Israeli ID's used to) this database could (and eventually would) be used in the same manner.
Good, maybe that will help them curb terrorist attacks. Wake me up with Israel plans to genocide the Palestinian population.
Interesting info: not all the people living in Israel are citizens, and not all Israeli citizens are Jewish.
Or, you know, maybe Israel isn't actually a "colony." Not that I really even care since the Palestinians get no sympathy from me anyway. They don't deserve it.
Due to the constant threat of terrorism presented by the Palestinians, I don't find it suprising that Israel has come up with this idea. What else can they even do? Peace is not possible since Hamas will settle for nothing less than the eradication of Israel. There's no place for a Jewish nation in the Ummah.
It's antisemitism because Israel is consistently singled out and subjected to completely ridiculous criticism while every other nation in the region has a free pass to do anything they want without anyone even looking in their direction. No matter what happens everything is always Israel's fault and responsibility. People are falling over each other to denounce Israel for every real and imagined transgression while painting Hamas & friends as a bunch of valiant freedom fighters who would never ever, say, use human shields or blind fire rockets into Israel.
I can't believe this shit got modded +5 insightful. Oh wait, this is Slashdot, the home of rabid antisemitism.
This has fuckall to do with Nazis forcing Jews to wear yellow stars. Every citizen of Israel, which is a Jewish country, will be included in the database, which is being built by the aforementioned Jewish country. For the life of me I cannot understand how this is perfectly equal to Nazis forcing Jews in Germany to wear yellow stars right before genociding them. But hey, the complete absence of logic hasn't stopped leftists before from spouting stream-of-consciousness bullshit.
Since we're on the subject of being honest, I wonder what would happen if, with the wave of a magic wand, all developing countries would be uplifted to the level of, say, China or India? How quickly would the planet be depleted of resources and ruined by pollution?
Factions seem to be breeding like mad too. Soon we'll have the Cenarion Coffee Club faction to grind or some other time suck.
There are way, way too many factions. Some of them don't even do anything, or are only utilized for a few quests. But there they sit in your reputation pane for all eternity. I haven't really played BC content yet, but I can see there's a stupid amount of different factions, with even more on the way courtesy of WotLK.
Even/. suffers from this to a certain extent, but for the most part its moderation system makes comments a little easier to sift through. Sure sometimes mod points are misused in ideological arguments.
Sometimes? Try all the fucking time. The average Slashdotter doesn't have the intelligence to actually argue about anything, so instead they just downmod anyone they don't like (and yes, they will also downmod anyone who points this out to them). What's even worse is that getting bad karma will limit how many posts you can make per 24 hours, how quickly you can post them and how many people will see them (I recall that -1 comments are filtered out by default). So essentially the system punishes you if your views deviate from mainstream ideology. What's ironic is that Slashdot submitters are tripping over themselves to post the next "our freedom of speech/something is being taken away" story while the commenters go on and on about Orwell and the rise of the police state while being oblivious to their own 1984-like behavior. Very, very few people truly believe in freedom of speech.
So my question is this: How come other forums don't use a moderation system like/.?
Because it sucks so much ass. Because it's broken beyond repair. Because its only purpose is to empower left-wing fanatics who are most likely to abuse any power given to them. I'd rather have complete anarchy than the system used here (in fact, I always prefer to play on unmoderated game servers because the moderated ones are guaranteed to be run by a delusional powertripper).
I think the most interesting thing about trolling is how people are using imaginary trolling as a blatant excuse to downmod, censor or ban people. Someone says something you don't like, and you can't come up with a counter-argument? No problem, just silence or get rid of the guy and claim he was trolling. Everyone will most likely believe you.
Sadly this behavior is not limited to the Internet, and it becomes quite dangerous when it's undertaken by politicians and other powerful people.
You don't like opinion pieces and you expect them to contain "supporting data," yet your own counter-argument consists of an anecdote entirely lacking "supporting data."
I never said anything about bombs. Fact is that Rwanda was simply a genocide stemming from tribalism. That's it. But you keep missing the point: whether or not it was terrorism makes no difference for your argument, since Rwanda was a drop in the ocean compared to the daily onslaught of Islamic terrorism that persists year after year in almost every part of the world. If you go beyond the terrorism of the 20th and 21st century, you'll find that millions and millions of people have been killed in the name of Jihad over the course of 1400 years or so.
I can't even remember the last time I heard about terrorism that didn't involve Muslims, but Islamic terrorism continues to be a daily problem all over the world.
The vast, vast majority of terrorism is perpetrated by Muslims (and there are many of them in Africa too). For all intents and purposes they have a monopoly on terrorism.
Protip to moderators: "trolling" has a specific definition, so you can't just point at a random post and arbitrarily decide that it must be "trolling." If you have no idea what trolling means, then maybe you should leave moderating to people who actually do. There was no element of trolling whatsoever in my post. Expressing a sincere opinion that's on-topic cannot be trolling no matter how much you want to believe otherwise.
But ok, let's stop pretending: the real reason why Slashdotters downmod people is because they can't come up with a real counter-argument. They either lack the ability or they know the other person is right.
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Bullshit. Almost every single downmodding that occurs on Slashdot is completely unjustified (usually politically or ideologically motivated), as this discussion thread proves again and again.
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Pointing out the irrefutable fact that the system is broken does not constitute trolling or flamebaiting.
Please. My karma went from excellent to terrible in a matter of hours only because I dared to point out that the moderating system is broken. The evidence is right here in plain sight.
Perhaps there would be no need to do so if I wasn't constantly downmodded for no reason by corrupt thugs.
I like how Slashdotters are always up in arms about the Outrage of the Day, like Microsoft continuing to exist or the Brits installing CCTVS, yet any bullshit done by Slashdotters gets a completely free pass. Talk about hypocrisy.
You left out the part where IDF soldiers open a portal to Hell and send them Palestinian babies in exchange for gold. Then they high five each other.
What holocaust is taking place now? Please share.
I've heard this a million times before. Whenever someone suggests a new counter-terrorism measure some Muslim spokesperson (self-appointed or otherwise) says "you shouldn't do this because it will "alienate" people and make them terrorists" which of course translates to "don't try to prevent us from blowing shit up or we'll blow some shit up." The only option, it seems, is to just submit.
Huh?
See how I got modded flamebait? This is the modus operandi of leftists. They can't debate because they know they're full of shit. That's why they have to resort to censorship. Mod down anyone who speaks the truth and less people will see their posts, and in time their karma will drop so they can't post as many messages, and so forth.
Slashdot is nothing more than a left-wing echo chamber.
Good, maybe that will help them curb terrorist attacks. Wake me up with Israel plans to genocide the Palestinian population.
I don't remember saying otherwise.
Or, you know, maybe Israel isn't actually a "colony." Not that I really even care since the Palestinians get no sympathy from me anyway. They don't deserve it.
Due to the constant threat of terrorism presented by the Palestinians, I don't find it suprising that Israel has come up with this idea. What else can they even do? Peace is not possible since Hamas will settle for nothing less than the eradication of Israel. There's no place for a Jewish nation in the Ummah.
It's antisemitism because Israel is consistently singled out and subjected to completely ridiculous criticism while every other nation in the region has a free pass to do anything they want without anyone even looking in their direction. No matter what happens everything is always Israel's fault and responsibility. People are falling over each other to denounce Israel for every real and imagined transgression while painting Hamas & friends as a bunch of valiant freedom fighters who would never ever, say, use human shields or blind fire rockets into Israel.
I can't believe this shit got modded +5 insightful. Oh wait, this is Slashdot, the home of rabid antisemitism.
This has fuckall to do with Nazis forcing Jews to wear yellow stars. Every citizen of Israel, which is a Jewish country, will be included in the database, which is being built by the aforementioned Jewish country. For the life of me I cannot understand how this is perfectly equal to Nazis forcing Jews in Germany to wear yellow stars right before genociding them. But hey, the complete absence of logic hasn't stopped leftists before from spouting stream-of-consciousness bullshit.
Uh... when did I assert that I decide/should decide what other countries can or can't do, and how is my personal life in any way related to this?
Since we're on the subject of being honest, I wonder what would happen if, with the wave of a magic wand, all developing countries would be uplifted to the level of, say, China or India? How quickly would the planet be depleted of resources and ruined by pollution?
Woosh.
There are way, way too many factions. Some of them don't even do anything, or are only utilized for a few quests. But there they sit in your reputation pane for all eternity. I haven't really played BC content yet, but I can see there's a stupid amount of different factions, with even more on the way courtesy of WotLK.
But were items simply stolen back then in the name of "national security?"
Sometimes? Try all the fucking time. The average Slashdotter doesn't have the intelligence to actually argue about anything, so instead they just downmod anyone they don't like (and yes, they will also downmod anyone who points this out to them). What's even worse is that getting bad karma will limit how many posts you can make per 24 hours, how quickly you can post them and how many people will see them (I recall that -1 comments are filtered out by default). So essentially the system punishes you if your views deviate from mainstream ideology. What's ironic is that Slashdot submitters are tripping over themselves to post the next "our freedom of speech/something is being taken away" story while the commenters go on and on about Orwell and the rise of the police state while being oblivious to their own 1984-like behavior. Very, very few people truly believe in freedom of speech.
Because it sucks so much ass. Because it's broken beyond repair. Because its only purpose is to empower left-wing fanatics who are most likely to abuse any power given to them. I'd rather have complete anarchy than the system used here (in fact, I always prefer to play on unmoderated game servers because the moderated ones are guaranteed to be run by a delusional powertripper).
I think the most interesting thing about trolling is how people are using imaginary trolling as a blatant excuse to downmod, censor or ban people. Someone says something you don't like, and you can't come up with a counter-argument? No problem, just silence or get rid of the guy and claim he was trolling. Everyone will most likely believe you.
Sadly this behavior is not limited to the Internet, and it becomes quite dangerous when it's undertaken by politicians and other powerful people.
Nobody owns chess, it's ancient. What is your point?
You don't like opinion pieces and you expect them to contain "supporting data," yet your own counter-argument consists of an anecdote entirely lacking "supporting data."
Cuil needs to stop dicking around!
I never said anything about bombs. Fact is that Rwanda was simply a genocide stemming from tribalism. That's it. But you keep missing the point: whether or not it was terrorism makes no difference for your argument, since Rwanda was a drop in the ocean compared to the daily onslaught of Islamic terrorism that persists year after year in almost every part of the world. If you go beyond the terrorism of the 20th and 21st century, you'll find that millions and millions of people have been killed in the name of Jihad over the course of 1400 years or so.
You're doing it wrong.
I can't even remember the last time I heard about terrorism that didn't involve Muslims, but Islamic terrorism continues to be a daily problem all over the world.
The vast, vast majority of terrorism is perpetrated by Muslims (and there are many of them in Africa too). For all intents and purposes they have a monopoly on terrorism.
Protip to moderators: "trolling" has a specific definition, so you can't just point at a random post and arbitrarily decide that it must be "trolling." If you have no idea what trolling means, then maybe you should leave moderating to people who actually do. There was no element of trolling whatsoever in my post. Expressing a sincere opinion that's on-topic cannot be trolling no matter how much you want to believe otherwise.
But ok, let's stop pretending: the real reason why Slashdotters downmod people is because they can't come up with a real counter-argument. They either lack the ability or they know the other person is right.