That lame "interesting" mod should have been "insightful", IMO. Yes, I have circles of freinds. Ever notice that a joke which is hilarious in one circle sounds lame and stupid in another circle? Or, that one bit of data that seems very important to one group is meaningless to all your other freinds? Your wife couldn't care less about some mundane detail of your job, and your girlfriend cares even less. Whoops!!! Wife and girlfreind? You should have put them into two different groups to start with!!
I have to ask what you mean by "minority". I hate IE as much as anyone, but the fact is, it is used by more people than all other browsers put together. I don't tailor my view of reality based on what I like, and you should get out of the habit.
Whoa - I went looking for a link to give my claims some weight - and I found this:
I guess if you are only measuring home users and technical users, you might get figures like that! But, when you include ALL COMPUTERS, you get quite different results.
Don't forget partial pressures of gases. In effect, putting the oxygen under to much pressure can result in a "dieseling" effect. When using exotic atmospheric gas mixtures, the goal is not only to remove potentially harmful gases, but also to control the partial pressure of oxygen itself.
Definition:
The pressure a gas would have if it alone occupied the space in which it is being measured.
For example: Air is 21% oxygen and therefore the partial pressure of oxygen in air at the surface is 0.21, meaning that it would occupy 0.21 of the space on the surface. As depth increases, pressure increases so that at 10 meters (33 feet) of sea water surface pressure is doubled and air pressure is also doubled. This means that while air still occupies 21% of the volume it is now twice as dense and it's partial pressure is now 0.42. The partial pressure of oxygen reaches 1.0 at approximately 37.6 meters (123 feet) and at this depth breathing air is the equivalent of breathing pure oxygen on the surface.
I did find honor. I upgraded to Linux, and stopped playing stupid Windows games. I don't like today's music anyway, so I stopped pirating it. And, I don't like any more than about 2% of Hollywood's offerings, so it's easy to ignore their stuff. Is that honorable enough?
I haven't personally pirated anything in quite a long while. But, I'll certainly help others to do so!
I'm not a coder. I couldn't create a kernel if my life depended on it. I couldn't code a hungry cat to catch a mouse. 1/2 or more of what I read in code is gibberish to me.
But, one thing is pretty sure. Linus Torvalds wrote Linux, and his programming background came directly from Unix. OF COURSE he is going to write the same commands he has used a thousand times in the same way. OF COURSE there are going to be lines that look very much the same, sometimes even identical.
Now, open any dozen books that are 50,000 words in length. Search for strings that are duplicated between the books. Entire sentences, or phrases, it hardly matters. Just do the search. Anyone who is used to playing with databases can probably search those dozen books, and find numerous instances of phrases that were copy/pasted from one author's book to another. In fact, I'll bet that technical and factual books will have a higher incidence of matching phrases and sentences than works of fiction - but fiction will have it's share as well.
And, before we do this data base mining, we need to set up some method of assigning a variable string for proper names. In the wife's romance novels, we would be looking for " $ kissed $ ". It will be repeated so often that you can't help seeing the plegiarism. One author after another rips it from his predecessors.
50 instances are claimed for "copying". Out of how many lines of code? Good grief. I guess it should have been mandatory that Linus write any code not only in a different programming language, but in a different language than English. Then, he MIGHT have been safe. Maybe. Not likely though, because SCO can probably read Chinese, or hire some scumbag lawyer who can.
Ultranova made a good answer to your post. I'll point out, though, that in most cases, whatever doo-dad you have to have is probably produced by numerous companies. Company A adds bling, and advertising, mostly marketing to the non-tech savvy, who are only interested in "pretty". Company B indulges in a lot of bling, but they forego the intensive advertising. Company C just makes the best, most utilitarian product they know how, and does very little if any advertising. Company D makes a cheap knockoff, with shoddy quality. Now, which brand of doo-dad do you think I'm going to buy?
In SOME rare cases, the only company that produces a quality doo-dad is the company that spends zillions on advertising. In such a case, I'll be forced to choose their product.
The best example might be a cell phone. I NEED a phone. There are a dozen choices on the market that are highly overpriced, much more capable than most people ever need, with all kinds of eye candy and bling. I don't need or want geo-location, don't need or want 99 applications, don't need or want texting - I could go on. All I want to do is accept incoming telephone calls, when people need me.
My choice? I go to WalMart, plop down a couple of twenty dollar bills for a no-contract cheapo telephone, activate it, then reactivate it monthly. Cheap, reliable, and I'm only buying what I NEED.
So, why exactly are you still developing sites for IE? Do you also think that Home Sapiens should be concerned with Homo Erectus, Cro Magnun, and Neanderthal? Should we reserve seats in the UN for them, or what?
I might argue that you have cited the reason our society is most likely to fail. We protect morons from themselves, so that they can survive to breed. Society is selectively breeding more and more morons with each generation.
If the idiot wants to peer down his fuel tube with a match, LET HIM DO IT!! Don't stand in his way. Hell, let's facilitate the operation - move the gas tank into the trunk, and put a trap door on top of the tank, and put a box of matches right beside the trap door.
Yeah, and what about all those Anons out there? Most are mindless fucks, with nothing in their hearts or in their minds aside from hatred for anyone and everyone. Very few have anything to contribute to anyone, or to anything. They just pop up, shout some hate slogans, then disappear back into obscurity. Mindless fucks. I suspect that many of them aren't even intelligent enough to feed themselves, bathe themselves, to hold a job, or much of anything. Potty trained? Maybe - if they are over 30. Just maybe.
You missed GP's point. Today, he has money to waste on entertainment. He just PAYS FOR IT, because it really is faster, and easier. The pirate who wants to play Super Duper Mario Brothers Meet the Exterminator and Predator has to find a download, find a crack, apply the crack, etc ad nauseum. Then, he probably can't play the online version, which includes the "value added" appearance of Alien.
Piracy is work, in case you hadn't noticed. People who are willing to spend no money, no time, and no effort to get their games/music/entertainment have to do without.
I agree, companies need to fight piracy, but following a mindless nazi doctrine that all pirates are evil and should be exterminated is as stupid as stupid gets.
Jim Baen, over at Baen Books came to understand that. He fought piracy by giving away books. http://www.baen.com/library/ Somewhere on their site, is a rather long discourse, in which Baen Books proves that every time they give away a book, especially an older, out of print book, not only does Baen realize a profit, but so does the author whose books was released for free.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Cooperating with the pirates can be lucrative.
Game producers could take a hint, and release a "pirated" version of their game, put it up on the torrent sites, sit back and allow the wider community to pay for distribution - then wait for a lot of pirates to come back and pay for the "value added" version that includes Alien.
Ahhh - first I'd have to hook up a VCR, capture it in some more modern format, etc, etc. And, it wouldn't be very popular, because it's not in color. The kid in the video is 22 years old now - the video was black and shades of gray, and it took a bit of training to actually see much.
There must be some young mothers and/or fathers here with much better quality videos of their babies, in digital format and living color.;^)
Oh, yes. Ditto on the grocery shopping. I need x number of fast and easy meals this week, because no one will be at home to cook. The kids don't care WHAT IT IS, just so long as they don't have to spend time cooking. Corn dogs? Nope - no meat in them, it's all "pork and chicken byproducts". These frozen dinners? Nope - the list of preservatives is longer than the list of food ingredients. That frozen dinner? Hmmmm - potatoes, carrots, peas, beef, one preservative, and no artificial colors. Looks pretty good - and it's CHEAPER than the one loaded with preservatives!
I wonder how many people really do look at the ingredients? Why pay for sugar, salt, and a boatload of chemicals, when none of them are actually "good" for you?
I'm quite certain that you are right about the subconscious influence. It's like I can hear little wheels whirring away, when I am forced to look at an advert. The company and/or the product is categorized and filed under "NEVER BUY FROM THESE ASSHOLES!" Weeks of months later, when I realize that I need some doo-dad, I shop around, and actually search for whatever it is. When I see the name, or trademark, or whatever, I rank that product down about ten notches.
And, it's not that hard to do, if you're not shopping for "bling". Those companies that spend the most on adverts tend to oversell the bling anyway, and undersell whatever merits the product might have - if any.
Not exactly true. Copyright law is aimed at commercial enterprise. For me to create, then GIVE AWAY a CD, or a dozen CD's, isn't exactly a commercial endeavor. Only if I CHARGE for distributing those CD's do I begin to infringe upon anyone's exclusive right to make money from their songs.
And, that is precisely WHY there is a sliding scale of penalties involved. Any infringement trial should be working hard to determine the motivation for the "distribution", the scale of the operation, number of people involved, gross profits, etc.
Joe Blow grabbing a few songs off the internet, then sharing a little bandwidth via torrent isn't exactly a high profile high profit infringement on anyone's works.
To hell with reading. I'm going to see if I can patent ball scratching. Think about it - half the people in the world scratch their balls, even before they come out of the womb. Reading is just for the elite, who have had time, money, and coddling enough to learn to read. Scratching balls? I can sue people for patent infringement even before they are born! I'll be richer than Microsoft, Apple, Government Motors, and the United States Government combined!
Oh, for anyone who wonders - we have video from a sonogram that distinctly shows the kid scratching at his groin at around 7 months gestation. It's time we dragged that out and showed it to everyone again. LMAO
Yep. Backtrack seems better than an Ubuntu, for a pentesting suite, I think.
I like Ubuntu, and I've installed it at the house, because the wife likes it too. But, for pentesting and analysis, you just don't need, or even want, all the pretties and the extra libraries and apps that Ubuntu lugs around as baggage.
Backtrack doesn't have EVERYTHING a guy might want for every purpose - or it didn't the last time I looked - but you can easily install anything that you need.
Maybe you should do routine maintenance on your Studebaker?
"A new 164.3-cid six-cylinder engine was designed expressly for the lightweight Champion and made for sprightly performance and sparkling economy. It wasn't long before owners were bragging of 25-mpg economy and 80-mph top speed. In various forms, this durable L-head would be a staple at Studebaker through model year 1960.
Sparked by early reports of its miserly ways, the Champion topped 30,000 sales in its introductory year. Thousands of over-the-road salespeople took a real liking to this economical traveler, and Studebaker enjoyed its best year since 1928. " http://www.howstuffworks.com/1939-studebaker-champion.htm
Granted, you don't want to run any vehicle at it's top speed all the time - but the Studebaker can be expected to run 65 to 70 mph, which means you can keep up with the flow of traffic almost everywhere.
Nahhh. You're forgeting that it's FUN to argue, criticize, correct, brag, show off, etc ad nauseum. Even being wrong in an argument is more fun than learning anything. Check out 4chan and similar sites.
Nice try. I gave a passing nanosecond's thought to the idea that you had actually worked out something to give the same hash. But, your failed.
guy@guy-desktop:~$ echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: seek and destroy the 'anonymous coward' user on slashdot, while simultaneously engaging in direct warfare upon all clear definitions of the cyber command's mission statement so as to maximize the payout in future humoristic series" | md5sum e7af0759f645b6fe6e7994784bbfd407 -
"said in the article that it had to do with their mission"
Exactly. I read that far, and went looking for their mission statement. Looked back here, and two people had apparently already done as much, ahead of me. Phhht. I'm not as smart as I thought I was, or at least not as smart as fast as other people, or something like that.;^)
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That lame "interesting" mod should have been "insightful", IMO. Yes, I have circles of freinds. Ever notice that a joke which is hilarious in one circle sounds lame and stupid in another circle? Or, that one bit of data that seems very important to one group is meaningless to all your other freinds? Your wife couldn't care less about some mundane detail of your job, and your girlfriend cares even less. Whoops!!! Wife and girlfreind? You should have put them into two different groups to start with!!
Wait til those monkey soldiers meet our Buffalo soldiers. Monkey stew!
Ever thought about sending a report to the owners of the pages that crash your browser? Tell 'em Flash sucks, and tell 'em why.
I have to ask what you mean by "minority". I hate IE as much as anyone, but the fact is, it is used by more people than all other browsers put together. I don't tailor my view of reality based on what I like, and you should get out of the habit.
Whoa - I went looking for a link to give my claims some weight - and I found this:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
I guess if you are only measuring home users and technical users, you might get figures like that! But, when you include ALL COMPUTERS, you get quite different results.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0
Do sports count as "doing something"? I would say no, but I've already been accused of being an opinionated old bastard.
Don't forget partial pressures of gases. In effect, putting the oxygen under to much pressure can result in a "dieseling" effect. When using exotic atmospheric gas mixtures, the goal is not only to remove potentially harmful gases, but also to control the partial pressure of oxygen itself.
Definition:
The pressure a gas would have if it alone occupied the space in which it is being measured.
For example: Air is 21% oxygen and therefore the partial pressure of oxygen in air at the surface is 0.21, meaning that it would occupy 0.21 of the space on the surface. As depth increases, pressure increases so that at 10 meters (33 feet) of sea water surface pressure is doubled and air pressure is also doubled. This means that while air still occupies 21% of the volume it is now twice as dense and it's partial pressure is now 0.42. The partial pressure of oxygen reaches 1.0 at approximately 37.6 meters (123 feet) and at this depth breathing air is the equivalent of breathing pure oxygen on the surface.
http://scuba.about.com/od/scubaterminology/g/partialpressure.htm
There are probably better links out there, feel free to use Google to satisfy your curiosity. ;^)
I did find honor. I upgraded to Linux, and stopped playing stupid Windows games. I don't like today's music anyway, so I stopped pirating it. And, I don't like any more than about 2% of Hollywood's offerings, so it's easy to ignore their stuff. Is that honorable enough?
I haven't personally pirated anything in quite a long while. But, I'll certainly help others to do so!
Ho-hum.
I'm not a coder. I couldn't create a kernel if my life depended on it. I couldn't code a hungry cat to catch a mouse. 1/2 or more of what I read in code is gibberish to me.
But, one thing is pretty sure. Linus Torvalds wrote Linux, and his programming background came directly from Unix. OF COURSE he is going to write the same commands he has used a thousand times in the same way. OF COURSE there are going to be lines that look very much the same, sometimes even identical.
Now, open any dozen books that are 50,000 words in length. Search for strings that are duplicated between the books. Entire sentences, or phrases, it hardly matters. Just do the search. Anyone who is used to playing with databases can probably search those dozen books, and find numerous instances of phrases that were copy/pasted from one author's book to another. In fact, I'll bet that technical and factual books will have a higher incidence of matching phrases and sentences than works of fiction - but fiction will have it's share as well.
And, before we do this data base mining, we need to set up some method of assigning a variable string for proper names. In the wife's romance novels, we would be looking for " $ kissed $ ". It will be repeated so often that you can't help seeing the plegiarism. One author after another rips it from his predecessors.
50 instances are claimed for "copying". Out of how many lines of code? Good grief. I guess it should have been mandatory that Linus write any code not only in a different programming language, but in a different language than English. Then, he MIGHT have been safe. Maybe. Not likely though, because SCO can probably read Chinese, or hire some scumbag lawyer who can.
Ultranova made a good answer to your post. I'll point out, though, that in most cases, whatever doo-dad you have to have is probably produced by numerous companies. Company A adds bling, and advertising, mostly marketing to the non-tech savvy, who are only interested in "pretty". Company B indulges in a lot of bling, but they forego the intensive advertising. Company C just makes the best, most utilitarian product they know how, and does very little if any advertising. Company D makes a cheap knockoff, with shoddy quality. Now, which brand of doo-dad do you think I'm going to buy?
In SOME rare cases, the only company that produces a quality doo-dad is the company that spends zillions on advertising. In such a case, I'll be forced to choose their product.
The best example might be a cell phone. I NEED a phone. There are a dozen choices on the market that are highly overpriced, much more capable than most people ever need, with all kinds of eye candy and bling. I don't need or want geo-location, don't need or want 99 applications, don't need or want texting - I could go on. All I want to do is accept incoming telephone calls, when people need me.
My choice? I go to WalMart, plop down a couple of twenty dollar bills for a no-contract cheapo telephone, activate it, then reactivate it monthly. Cheap, reliable, and I'm only buying what I NEED.
So, why exactly are you still developing sites for IE? Do you also think that Home Sapiens should be concerned with Homo Erectus, Cro Magnun, and Neanderthal? Should we reserve seats in the UN for them, or what?
I might argue that you have cited the reason our society is most likely to fail. We protect morons from themselves, so that they can survive to breed. Society is selectively breeding more and more morons with each generation.
If the idiot wants to peer down his fuel tube with a match, LET HIM DO IT!! Don't stand in his way. Hell, let's facilitate the operation - move the gas tank into the trunk, and put a trap door on top of the tank, and put a box of matches right beside the trap door.
The gene pool really needs to be filtered.
Yeah, and what about all those Anons out there? Most are mindless fucks, with nothing in their hearts or in their minds aside from hatred for anyone and everyone. Very few have anything to contribute to anyone, or to anything. They just pop up, shout some hate slogans, then disappear back into obscurity. Mindless fucks. I suspect that many of them aren't even intelligent enough to feed themselves, bathe themselves, to hold a job, or much of anything. Potty trained? Maybe - if they are over 30. Just maybe.
You missed GP's point. Today, he has money to waste on entertainment. He just PAYS FOR IT, because it really is faster, and easier. The pirate who wants to play Super Duper Mario Brothers Meet the Exterminator and Predator has to find a download, find a crack, apply the crack, etc ad nauseum. Then, he probably can't play the online version, which includes the "value added" appearance of Alien.
Piracy is work, in case you hadn't noticed. People who are willing to spend no money, no time, and no effort to get their games/music/entertainment have to do without.
I agree, companies need to fight piracy, but following a mindless nazi doctrine that all pirates are evil and should be exterminated is as stupid as stupid gets.
Jim Baen, over at Baen Books came to understand that. He fought piracy by giving away books. http://www.baen.com/library/ Somewhere on their site, is a rather long discourse, in which Baen Books proves that every time they give away a book, especially an older, out of print book, not only does Baen realize a profit, but so does the author whose books was released for free.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Cooperating with the pirates can be lucrative.
Game producers could take a hint, and release a "pirated" version of their game, put it up on the torrent sites, sit back and allow the wider community to pay for distribution - then wait for a lot of pirates to come back and pay for the "value added" version that includes Alien.
Ahhh - first I'd have to hook up a VCR, capture it in some more modern format, etc, etc. And, it wouldn't be very popular, because it's not in color. The kid in the video is 22 years old now - the video was black and shades of gray, and it took a bit of training to actually see much.
There must be some young mothers and/or fathers here with much better quality videos of their babies, in digital format and living color. ;^)
Some pretty decent looking videos here - I'll watch a few later:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sonograms+of+baby&aq=1
Oh, yes. Ditto on the grocery shopping. I need x number of fast and easy meals this week, because no one will be at home to cook. The kids don't care WHAT IT IS, just so long as they don't have to spend time cooking. Corn dogs? Nope - no meat in them, it's all "pork and chicken byproducts". These frozen dinners? Nope - the list of preservatives is longer than the list of food ingredients. That frozen dinner? Hmmmm - potatoes, carrots, peas, beef, one preservative, and no artificial colors. Looks pretty good - and it's CHEAPER than the one loaded with preservatives!
I wonder how many people really do look at the ingredients? Why pay for sugar, salt, and a boatload of chemicals, when none of them are actually "good" for you?
I'm quite certain that you are right about the subconscious influence. It's like I can hear little wheels whirring away, when I am forced to look at an advert. The company and/or the product is categorized and filed under "NEVER BUY FROM THESE ASSHOLES!" Weeks of months later, when I realize that I need some doo-dad, I shop around, and actually search for whatever it is. When I see the name, or trademark, or whatever, I rank that product down about ten notches.
And, it's not that hard to do, if you're not shopping for "bling". Those companies that spend the most on adverts tend to oversell the bling anyway, and undersell whatever merits the product might have - if any.
"Giving the mix CD to someone else - not so OK."
Not exactly true. Copyright law is aimed at commercial enterprise. For me to create, then GIVE AWAY a CD, or a dozen CD's, isn't exactly a commercial endeavor. Only if I CHARGE for distributing those CD's do I begin to infringe upon anyone's exclusive right to make money from their songs.
And, that is precisely WHY there is a sliding scale of penalties involved. Any infringement trial should be working hard to determine the motivation for the "distribution", the scale of the operation, number of people involved, gross profits, etc.
Joe Blow grabbing a few songs off the internet, then sharing a little bandwidth via torrent isn't exactly a high profile high profit infringement on anyone's works.
To hell with reading. I'm going to see if I can patent ball scratching. Think about it - half the people in the world scratch their balls, even before they come out of the womb. Reading is just for the elite, who have had time, money, and coddling enough to learn to read. Scratching balls? I can sue people for patent infringement even before they are born! I'll be richer than Microsoft, Apple, Government Motors, and the United States Government combined!
Oh, for anyone who wonders - we have video from a sonogram that distinctly shows the kid scratching at his groin at around 7 months gestation. It's time we dragged that out and showed it to everyone again. LMAO
Yep. Backtrack seems better than an Ubuntu, for a pentesting suite, I think.
I like Ubuntu, and I've installed it at the house, because the wife likes it too. But, for pentesting and analysis, you just don't need, or even want, all the pretties and the extra libraries and apps that Ubuntu lugs around as baggage.
Backtrack doesn't have EVERYTHING a guy might want for every purpose - or it didn't the last time I looked - but you can easily install anything that you need.
Maybe you should do routine maintenance on your Studebaker?
"A new 164.3-cid six-cylinder engine was designed expressly for the lightweight Champion and made for sprightly performance and sparkling economy. It wasn't long before owners were bragging of 25-mpg economy and 80-mph top speed. In various forms, this durable L-head would be a staple at Studebaker through model year 1960.
Sparked by early reports of its miserly ways, the Champion topped 30,000 sales in its introductory year. Thousands of over-the-road salespeople took a real liking to this economical traveler, and Studebaker enjoyed its best year since 1928. "
http://www.howstuffworks.com/1939-studebaker-champion.htm
Granted, you don't want to run any vehicle at it's top speed all the time - but the Studebaker can be expected to run 65 to 70 mph, which means you can keep up with the flow of traffic almost everywhere.
From the book of Nlite, Chapter 1, verse 0, "If thine IE offend thee, pluck it out!"
Nahhh. You're forgeting that it's FUN to argue, criticize, correct, brag, show off, etc ad nauseum. Even being wrong in an argument is more fun than learning anything. Check out 4chan and similar sites.
I thought we were going for the 'leventy 'leventh time. SOMEONE has to do the 'leventh time, if we're ever going to reach 'leventy 'leventh!
Nice try. I gave a passing nanosecond's thought to the idea that you had actually worked out something to give the same hash. But, your failed.
guy@guy-desktop:~$ echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: seek and destroy the 'anonymous coward' user on slashdot, while simultaneously engaging in direct warfare upon all clear definitions of the cyber command's mission statement so as to maximize the payout in future humoristic series" | md5sum
e7af0759f645b6fe6e7994784bbfd407 -
Does not match 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22b -
"said in the article that it had to do with their mission"
Exactly. I read that far, and went looking for their mission statement. Looked back here, and two people had apparently already done as much, ahead of me. Phhht. I'm not as smart as I thought I was, or at least not as smart as fast as other people, or something like that. ;^)