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Crack the Code In US Cyber Command's Logo

Dan writes "According to Wired: 'The US military's new Cyber Command is headquartered at Ft. Meade, Maryland, one of the military's most secretive and secure facilities. Its mission is largely opaque, even inside the armed forces. But the there's another mystery surrounding the emerging unit. It's embedded in the Cyber Command logo. On the logo's inner gold ring is a code: 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a.'"

380 comments

  1. md5? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looks like it is the same length as an MD5 sum...

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    1. Re:md5? by the_one_wesp · · Score: 1

      I concur. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw it. But that doesn't mean that it's not an md5 of some other encrypted/obfuscated secret.

    2. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It is a dumb md5 hash and nothing more.

      "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries."

    3. Re:md5? by the_one_wesp · · Score: 4, Funny

      And my misplaced hopes that a government agency would actually do something creative come crashing to the ground and a violent speed....

    4. Re:md5? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Looks like it is the same length as an MD5 sum...

      The MD5 sum of the secret Cyber Command PR effort to get geeks to talk about it without delving too deep into the actual workings and mission of the Cyber Command. Hmm, I wonder if it will work?

    5. Re:md5? by jimmyswimmy · · Score: 5, Informative

      $ echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." | md5sum
      9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a  -

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    6. Re:md5? by v1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and just how are we supposed to find anything "meaningful" in the result of a one way hash? To say that a one way hash (with an arbitrary sized input)"encodes" anything is just plain stupid.

      Oh I know! It's the original draft of the Constitution of the United States! Imagine that, all in 16 bytes! What amazing compression! Really, you're not going to fit much "meaningful" beyond a telephone number in a ciphertext THAT small. It's a hash.

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    7. Re:md5? by simcop2387 · · Score: 5, Informative

      whoever you are, you deserve a cookie.

      echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." | md5sum
      9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a -

    8. Re:md5? by jgardia · · Score: 1

      wow!

    9. Re:md5? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Confirmed. We have a winner.

    10. Re:md5? by therealkevinkretz · · Score: 1

      MD5 is broken, for some time now. Is that really the tool to show off your uber-leet-cyber command? PR fail.

    11. Re:md5? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      MD5 is "broken" in the sense that collisions can be found in certain situations. This makes MD5 bad for cryptographic purposes, yes, but it is not exactly useless. Also, considering that cyber command has limited space on its logo, a stronger hash function which generates longer hashes might have been difficult to use.

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    12. Re:md5? by Doomstalk · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's because it is an MD5 sum

    13. Re:md5? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      Holy crap, that was quick!

    14. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Why not use a reverse lookup?

      http://md5.noisette.ch/?hash=9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a

      Please, US Cyber Command, give us something more challenging...

    15. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So this is the hash of their 'public' mission. Does their SECRET mission collide with the same hash value, I wonder?

    16. Re:md5? by DIplomatic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Keep digging, I'm pretty sure this will end up as promotion for a new Halo game. :P

    17. Re:md5? by bezenek · · Score: 1

      Apparently they came up with the idea for the logo "code" before they hired the talent.

      -Todd

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    18. Re:md5? by societyofrobots · · Score: 2, Informative

      Its just a hash of their mission statement:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command

      "The text '9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a', which is located in the command's emblem, is the MD5 hash of their mission statement."

    19. Re:md5? by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Funny

      So what's the maximum length message that an MD5 number can hold?

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    20. Re:md5? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      When they said in the article that it had to do with their mission, I figured it must be a hash of "Use Fear Uncertainty, Doubt, and Lies to bilk the taxpayers out of as much money as possible while providing absolutely no tangible benefit to anyone."

      Apparently, they chose to just use their "cover mission".

      -Steve

      --
      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    21. Re:md5? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No they don't. It was trivial. Perhaps I should say: The First part was trivial.

      Don't tell me I am the only one that noticed how oddly worded that is? I mean, if you are just going to md5 something, why word it so poorly? Why the double meaning of 'domains'?

      Maybe I am reading too much into it, but my experience show that this would be typical double meaning often used by covert operations.

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    22. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It all depends in your reading of who's their 'adversaries'. :)

    23. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      So what's the maximum length message that an MD5 number can hold?

      Holy crap you're stupid.

    24. Re:md5? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I can't wit for the second portion to become public so I can point at you and laugh.

      However, if this group is any indication people will be too busy talking about how stupid it is before they realize it's multipart.
      At which time they will conveniently forget THEY where the ones being stupid. I wan't to be sure the world know they're stupid.

      This is because I suffer from the irrationality that when people are shown how irrational they are they will become rational.

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    25. Re:md5? by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 0

      $ echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: seek and destroy the 'anonymous coward' user on slashdot, while simultaneously engaging in direct warfare upon all clear definitions of the cyber command's mission statement so as to maximize the payout in future humoristic series" | md5sum
      9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22b -

    26. Re:md5? by sepelester · · Score: 5, Funny

      So what's the maximum length message that an MD5 number can hold?

      Infinite - 1

    27. Re:md5? by ailnlv · · Score: 2, Informative

      its just a hash; in theory you shouldn't be able to recover the original message from an md5sum, since several messages can have the same sum. There is no maximum length to what you can hash using md5.

    28. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      md5 is just a checksum. It doesn't actually hold the message as such.

    29. Re:md5? by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 1

      look 2 posts up ...

      somehow I think it's doable

    30. Re:md5? by leuk_he · · Score: 1

      MD5 is weak and already broken which more or less might be symbolic for the v1 version .

    31. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh God, I think I just had an aneurysm... I... I'm dying... are you happy? Your fucking stupidity has killed me! Now my goddamn cat is homeless.

    32. Re:md5? by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

      You're looking at it the wrong way. The search for a meaningful match makes you use different tactics from simple codebreaking. You have to actually understand the subject, what's relevant, and what isn't. Recognizing it as an md5 is the first part, then assume it's not any more obfuscated than that is the second.

      Going to an md5 dictionary to find the content might give interesting results, but I think this was found quite easily using likely data to calculate an md5 match. Probably took less than 5 tries for the first attempt, then you can use google thereafter.

      Also, I bet you feel silly now that all the other comments have been posted. We found something meaningful, and some people had a good time doing it.

    33. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what's the maximum length message that an MD5 number can hold?

      Five, duh. It says it right there!

    34. Re:md5? by synthparadox · · Score: 1

      The answer was posted yesterday at 2pm Eastern in the comments:
      http://uscybercom-watch.blogspot.com/2010/06/uscybercom-logo.html

    35. Re:md5? by Aphoxema · · Score: 5, Informative

      MD5s don't hold information, they're a trap-door. It's perfectly possible that another combination of characters would lead to the same MD5, but it's incredibly unlikely that those characters would be lingually meaningful.

      Passwords are often "stored" server-side as a hash. Why I quote "stored" is because the password isn't stored at all! The server doesn't know the actual password, you would have to digest every possible combination of characters to find a hash that exactly matches the one stored on the server, but by knowing a string that already does (your password) you're already there.

      MD5 alone is a poor choice for trapping important strings because it is possible to "plan" a collision... for example, if a web-site offered you a file and an MD5 hash to test the source of that file, with enough cleverness and computing power another party could give you a different file with the same MD5 hash.

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    36. Re:md5? by TJamieson · · Score: 1

      Now, how about a collision? Let's see what other "sentences" can end up at the same md5sum :)

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    37. Re:md5? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So what's the maximum length message that an MD5 number can hold?

      Holy crap you're stupid.

      No, he's ignorant.

      It's arguably stupid to not google it first to find out what it is, but that's a common failing on /. (and everywhere else in human space).

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      "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
    38. Re:md5? by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      I misread the final word as "advertisers" and for a minute was getting pretty enthusiastic about signing up...

    39. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because it was figured out long ago, check out the wikipedia article for "US Cyber Command"

    40. Re:md5? by severn2j · · Score: 5, Funny

      Doesn't pretty much every government department make a hash of their mission statement?

    41. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      - there's another one -

    42. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The irony is that so many of us got the same thing - yet as of now in the comments most are just plain stupid.

      Says a lot of about Wired...

    43. Re:md5? by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      It's pretty sad that someone had to write a whole story surrounding the mystery behind this md5 hash sum, when it is plainly written in black and white on wiki, hence your link.

      I find today's search engine illiteracy pretty appalling.
      especially when we give our story board to those same people....sickening.

    44. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is their mission statement: http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2010/0410_cybersec/docs/CYberFactSheet%20UPDATED%20replaces%20May%2021%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

    45. Re:md5? by baryluk · · Score: 2, Informative

      rfc1321
      "The algorithm takes as input a message of arbitrary length and produces as output a 128-bit "fingerprint" or "message digest" of the input."

      So it basically means that there is no limit.

      (newer hashes, for safety or becuase they use ctr-like modes, define maximal lengths, for example SHA-1 and SHA-256 have limit of 2^64-1 bits. SHA-384 and SHA-512 have limit of 2^128-1. Still 2^64-1 bits is bilions of gigabytes.)

    46. Re:md5? by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      strictly speaking an MD5 holds 128 bits. The minimum/maximum length message is the MD5sum its self.

      But yeah....

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    47. Re:md5? by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

      Actually the real message meta-coded there is : "We are not serious people, we just are here to take some taxpayers money and give a false sense of security by sitting in front of shiny computers.".

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    48. Re:md5? by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So if we watch the logo carefully, we'll know when someone tries to change the mission statement?

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    49. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you mean "my cat is now servant-less".

    50. Re:md5? by therealkevinkretz · · Score: 1

      IIRC it's more than just a case of collisions; it's possible (if not trivial) to create documents with the same hash.

    51. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is your experience limited to Bourne movies?

    52. Re:md5? by cfulton · · Score: 1

      The MD5 sum of the secret Cyber Command PR effort to get geeks to talk about it without delving too deep into the actual workings and mission of the Cyber Command. Hmm, I wonder if it will work?

      No, Silly /.ers would never be taken in by such an obvious ploy.

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    53. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Gotta love when you DO Google something, and one of the search results is a forum where somebody else asked your same question, and the only response is a kind person saying "why don't you Google it?" Argh. Hopefully nobody will end up on this forum when searching for "maximum length message MD5"on Google.

    54. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for f's sake, u arrogant bastards
      why dont you just not say anything or redirect the poor chap to where he can find out.
      his mis-understanding is a common mis-conception I find with my students
      so dont be arrogant!

    55. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of all the days to not have mod points... +1 insightful.

    56. Re:md5? by morten+poulsen · · Score: 1

      It is a dumb md5 hash and nothing more.

      Having a hash of your mission statement in your logo is an awesome way of saying; We have integrity, our mission can not secretly be altered.

    57. Re:md5? by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Funny

      The person who figured this out got a visit from a mysterious man named 'Centauri' who invited him to join the US Cyber Command's fight against the Ko-Dan Empire.

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    58. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no argument under which he's not stupid. Either he completely failed to understand MD5 when he originally learned what it is, or he has no idea what it is and instead of asking what MD5 is, he just made ridiculous assumptions leading to a ridiculously stupid question.

    59. Re:md5? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Don't tell me I am the only one that noticed how oddly worded that is? I mean, if you are just going to md5 something, why word it so poorly? Why the double meaning of 'domains'?

      Well, no, it's not poorly worded - it's pretty straightforward DoD bureaucratese. And since md5 is nothing but a checksum, it doesn't care how things are worded. It could be a zip file of porn or a PDF of the Declaration Of Independence... The md5 algorithm will slurp the bytes of anything you feed it and produce a checksum thereof. And lastly, what double meaning of domains? Again, standard DoD bureaucratese.
       

      Maybe I am reading too much into it, but my experience show that this would be typical double meaning often used by covert operations.

      I suspect you've been reading too much Clancy. ('In my experience'? Really? Exactly what is that experience?)

    60. Re:md5? by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Was Ambassador Mollari among them?

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      If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
    61. Re:md5? by Squeeonline · · Score: 2, Funny

      wow that's amazing, although I wish it was something funnier :-/ All glory to hypnotoad or something similar.

    62. Re:md5? by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 1

      The real code to be cracked is exactly what the mission statement means. ;)

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      You know, oblivion keeps looking better every day.

    63. Re:md5? by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>It's arguably stupid to not google it first to find out what it is, but that's a common failing on /.

      I didn't "google" it but I did "wikipedia" it and could not find an answer to my question (What's the maximum length?)

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    64. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (newer hashes, for safety or becuase they use ctr-like modes, define maximal lengths, for example SHA-1 and SHA-256 have limit of 2^64-1 bits. SHA-384 and SHA-512 have limit of 2^128-1. Still 2^64-1 bits is bilions of gigabytes.)

      Uh, yeah, if you've ever managed to accidentally pass TWO EXABYTES of data through a hash function, I think you need to write a paper. "Safety" indeed...

    65. Re:md5? by jandrese · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's one of those classic "design by committee" mission statements that end up bogged down with every single little thing the company does because everybody has their own little fiefdom that they want represented.

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      I read the internet for the articles.
    66. Re:md5? by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      against the Ko-Dan Armada.

      FTFY...

      Geez, getting that reference makes me feel very "Get off my lawn"-y

    67. Re:md5? by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Funny

      >>>So it basically means that there is no limit.

      C'mon. You mean to tell me I can take the collected works of Harry Potter and boil them down to a 128 bit MD5 number? Wow that's some amazing test compression. Even ZIP isn't that good!

      Okay no, I really don't believe either you or wikipedia. Given the number carved on the Cyber Command's logo, there has to be a set maximum length the decoded text message could be.

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      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    68. Re:md5? by quanticle · · Score: 1

      Right, but not every government department puts that hash up on its official seal.

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    69. Re:md5? by commodore64_love · · Score: 1, Troll

      Oh okay.

      NOW I understand. See everyone: Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just EXPLAIN it to me, rather than insult or say "go google it"? Yes. I thought the MD5 number was like a ZIP file where the numbers code be "uncompressed" back into readable text. I didn't realize it was essentially a random, unrecoverable number.

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      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    70. Re:md5? by gravis777 · · Score: 1

      This should be modded up to Score:5 informative, and an update made to the Slashdot post stating this. I wish I had mod points right now.

    71. Re:md5? by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's always kryptos; part 4 has yet to be decoded. Have fun.

    72. Re:md5? by radtea · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's pretty sad that someone had to write a whole story surrounding the mystery behind this md5 hash sum, when it is plainly written in black and white on wiki, hence your link.

      There's a whole school of modern journalism built around ignoring easily accessible answers to relatively trivial questions. If you've followed any of the recent economic debates you'll find that it's full of "but they never say anything about what they mean by XYZ" claims regarding their opposition, only to have the opposition respond with links to where they explain clearly what they mean by XYZ.

      I used to think that the Web would make it harder for people to play this sort of stupid Straw Person type of argument, either postively--by imputing to your opponent an argument they are not making--or negatively--by ignoring explanations and justifications your opponent has clearly made. I thought the Web would improve human communication and engagement in argument. But what it has done is simply reveal the depths to which stupid people will dive to preserve their faith-based beliefs against any and all opposition.

      I'm pretty sure that almost all the argument on the Web is one big game of "let's pretend we don't know anything because the world is more 'provocative' and 'exciting' that way."

      It is increasingly clear that the average person lives their life entirely within the epistemological limits of Humpty Dumpty, to whom words meant what he wanted them to, and nothing else. In the present case, "mystery" apparently means "something that I can't be bothered to google."

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    73. Re:md5? by ILuvRamen · · Score: 3, Funny

      or a trip to another planet to try an experimental stargate dialing system lol

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    74. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, what you're saying is, the hash might also be the key for the *real* mission statement of US Cyber Command. You know, the one that involves the Illuminati or perhaps the StarGate program. :-)

      Joking aside, it might make a fun project to explore what hash collisions could yield something intelligible and funnier than the standard mission statement.

    75. Re:md5? by QuantumBeep · · Score: 2, Funny

      for f's sake, u arrogant bastards

      with my students

      Let me guess, Irate Text Messaging 301?

    76. Re:md5? by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>with enough cleverness and computing power another party could give you a different file with the same MD5 password hash.

      Understood. Sounds like the old Checksums on X-MODEM downloads. The file was broken into 128-byte blocks, and each block had a checksum in order to catch errors generated by phoneline noise. HOWEVER the checksum was not unique. It was still possible for an error to generate a correct sum, and allow the file to pass through uncaught by the protocol.

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      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    77. Re:md5? by LoSt180 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It wasn't on the wiki yesterday when Wired posted the story. If you view the Revision history on the article, you will see the Mission portion has been heavily edited late last night and this morning.

      I find today's assumption that a Wiki is a static and never changing reference material pretty appalling..

    78. Re:md5? by SquarePixel · · Score: 1

      >>>So it basically means that there is no limit.

      C'mon. You mean to tell me I can take the collected works of Harry Potter and boil them down to a 128 bit MD5 number? Wow that's some amazing test compression. Even ZIP isn't that good!

      Okay no, I really don't believe either you or wikipedia. Given the number carved on the Cyber Command's logo, there has to be a set maximum length the decoded text message could be.

      Again; Holy crap you're stupid.

    79. Re:md5? by PagosaSam · · Score: 1
      It's like asking want is the max length of a checksum. Or what is north of the north pole....

      You can run the algorithm on any length input.

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      :q! Oh crap, not again...
    80. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy crap, that was quick!

      But if you really want to impress us, come up with a Goatse pic with some data after it, such that the file hash-collides to the same MD5, and do it before this article scrolls off the page
      - NSA.

    81. Re:md5? by Dragoniz3r · · Score: 1

      Yeah, as though somehow by having a "statement" of your "mission" prevents you from acting differently...

    82. Re:md5? by LoSt180 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was using wrong mission statement! When I copied the statement from the Cyber Command Factsheet, the md5 hash wasn't matching. Apparently the "correct" version is missing the comma after "synchronizes" and uses a space instead of a hyphen in "full spectrum". So close.

    83. Re:md5? by Thuktun · · Score: 1

      So they'll either need to change their logo if they change their mission statement, or ensure that it's worded in such a way that they retain the same hash.

    84. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only USCYBERCOM knew English grammar. It is incorrect to break a sentence with a colon.

    85. Re:md5? by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      MD5 is a checksum. There's no way to take an MD5 hash and turn it back into the information that generated it.

      So yes, you can take the entire collected works of JK Rowling (the person who wrote Harry Potter) and boil them down to a 128-bit MD5 hash.

      The only way that the MD5 hash is itself an *encoded* message would be if it can be decoded into a different message entirely... that may explain the klunky wording of the mission statement, mind you. You can tailor the output of the MD5 hash by tweaking a byte here or there on the input... anybody try running the MD5 hash as hex pairs for either ASCII or UNICODE? What about Octal pairs using reduced ASCII? Would be really cool if there actually were a hidden message embedded in the MD5 hash. :)

    86. Re:md5? by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

      Normally I'd just assume you were uneducated in these matters, but what you're saying is so ridiculously ignorant that you must be sarcastic.

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    87. Re:md5? by idontgno · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sheesh.

      Either you're trolling or you don't comprehend the difference between hashing, encryption, and compression.

      You display a practical understanding of compression: output size is proportionate to input size. But again, since compression algorithms work in blocks or streams of data, there's no theoretical limit to input size. Things like filesystem file size limits may apply, but again, if it's a stream compression with a stream input (e.g., network socket) and a stream output (ditto), there's no limit (other than externals like the finite lifespan of the Universe).

      Encryption's affect on size is different than compression. Without padding, encryption output size should be the same as input size. Many algorithms do pad short inputs, so there may be a small increase in output size. Again, since ciphers can operate in stream modes, there are no inherent limits (other than, for instance, available one-time-pad data for OTP ciphers.)

      Hashing, on the other hand, is in essence an extremely fancy checksum, specifically designed to use cryptographic functions in order to radically increase the likelihood that the hash value derived from any particular input is relatively unique (i.e., the hash of a particular input is radically different from the hash of another particular input which is almost identical to the first--small differences in input yield obvious differences in output.)

      Checksums are, by practical definition, fixed-size, and that size is much smaller than the majority of the potential inputs. The classic checksum is a single check digit: (running total of input) mod 10. Cryptographic hashes (such as MD5--which stands for Message Digest Algorithm 5, btw) are defined to be 128 bits. No matter how long the input is, the MD5 algorithm always produces a 128-bit output, because it iteratively processes bytes of the input 128 bits at a time.

      C'mon. You mean to tell me I can take the collected works of Harry Potter and boil them down to a 128 bit MD5 number? Wow that's some amazing test compression. Even ZIP isn't that good!

      It's not compression. Compression requires reversibility. Hashes are, by definition, not reversible: a "trap door function". The idea is that you can take an input and digest it into a 128-bit number which relatively uniquely represents it, but you can't reverse the 128-bit number and recover the original input. That would be foolish: "I'll reverse the hash, edit the text, re-hash it, and send it on its way; no one will be the wiser."

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    88. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, there isn't.

      Hashes are representations of the content of a message, not the length of the message. Now, given that a hash is a limited length then obviously, there may (guaranteed to be, in fact) be collisions where two different messages will produce exactly the same hash. This has been proven time and again - hence all the OMG MD5 is BORKEN!!!! Stories you occasionally see floating around the interwebs. The crucial thing of course, is that while theoretically broken, in practice nobody has managed to produce two *meaningful* messages that have the same hash.

      What you are thinking of is little more than a Caesar Cipher, and is not at all what a hash is.

    89. Re:md5? by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Well, it worked for Google, didn't it? They proclaim "Don't be evil" and by cracky, they're not evil!

      Next subject: how to get <sarcasm> recognized in Slashcode.

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    90. Re:md5? by takowl · · Score: 1

      ..."plan" a collision... if a web-site offered you a file and an MD5 hash to test the source of that file, with enough cleverness and computing power another party could give you a different file with the same MD5 hash.

      Not quite. A collision attack generates two different inputs with the same MD5 hash. To compute a value with a given hash, you would need a preimage attack (or brute force).

    91. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hashing isn't compression!

      While it may be tempting to think of it that way, the crucial difference is that compression is trivially reversible, hashing is not.

    92. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Because there's no decoding, because MD5 isn't reversible. It's a hash, not encryption. There are, in fact, infinitely many messages that would result in the same MD5 hash.

      There are ample resources available to inform yourself about basic cryptology, you should seek them out.

    93. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll take care of your cat if it means you're dead.

    94. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the maximum chapter size for an encyclopedia chapter for the letter "A"? A hash is just a way of categorizing an infinite number of values in a finite number of categories. The MD5 hash in this case has a value of 16 bytes, which means that there are 2^48 distinct possible values for the hash [(2^3)^16 = 2^(3*16) = 2^48], and so 2^48 (slightly less than a quarter of a quadrillion) possible categories. If you're thinking "but wait a minute, there must be more than a quarter of a quadrillion possible strings/binary files of arbitrary finite length," yes, there are ... but the odds of finding two files that have exactly the same signature are about 1 in 19,753,662 (and the odds of creating a single file with the same signature as a target file are one in a quarter quadrillion).

    95. Re:md5? by icebraining · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, writing "go google it" takes 16 times less the effort to write (measured in characters typed) than GP's post.

    96. Re:md5? by icebraining · · Score: 1

      That's also possible with MD5, but since the algorithm outputs a much larger output, it's much less probable to get two identical hashes from different inputs. Unless you're doing it on purpose.

    97. Re:md5? by LoSt180 · · Score: 1

      I was using the wrong mission statement, sorta! I had a hunch this was an MD5 hash, but when pasting the text from the Cyber Command Fact Sheet, the hash didn't match. Apparently the "correct" version is missing the comma after "synchronizes" and uses a space instead of a hyphen in "full spectrum". So close, but no hash.

    98. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While getting a blowjob?

    99. Re:md5? by Linux_ho · · Score: 1

      Maybe I am reading too much into it, but my experience show that this would be typical double meaning often used by covert operations.

      That and the fact that they chose MD5 (which seems odd... unless they're trying for a collision) would seem to suggest that there might be another, possibly more naturally worded, phrase with the same MD5 sum. This phrase could have been carefully crafted as 'cover.'

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    100. Re:md5? by deuterium · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're right in that no one has explicitly stated how they "naturally" got to the mission statement, you're just supposed to know that it's an obvious bit of text to check against this hashing algorithm, and then shout "stupid" at people like you.

    101. Re:md5? by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      There is no theoretical limit, but you might come up against operating system limits depending on your setup. It is used for example to verify that DVD images haven't been corrupted in transit.

    102. Re:md5? by gknoy · · Score: 1

      In the first case, he's stupid.
      In the second, he's ignorant, which isn't at all the same as stupid. He asked a question which was based on his (mistaken) assumption of what it was. That's not stupid, that's exercising the scientific method (sort of). The answers he got would either be:

      - lol (not useful)
      - MD5 numbers can hold ____ (useful, confirms his assumption)
      - MD5 numbers don't work like that. (useful, disproves his assumption, and sets him on the right path)

      If he merely asked "what's MD5?" he'd get an answer like "MD5 is a hash used in cryptography", which wouldn't answer his question at all.

      Also ... in case the original poster is even reading these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5 should give you good information. MD5 is a hashing algorithm. It takes an arbitrary number of bits (your e-mail address, or a linux ISO, or the contents of your novel) and transforms them into a fixed length number of bits. The goal of a hash is to make the resulting numbers be completely uncorrellatable to the input data -- so one or two bits difference in the source will yield a large difference in the output.

      It's like very very lossy compression ... except that you can't UNcompress anything from it. The only way to determine what may hash to a given sequence is to make a rainbow table, and see what other things hash to the same value.

      And, if you were trolling when asking about MD5, kudos to you for making us bite, I guess. :) I'm surprised that geeks don't know what this is... but then I spent a month reading Applied Cryptography on one vacation, which probably isn't normal. :D

    103. Re:md5? by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Yeah much better to have a dozen people type in their own explanations, half of which will be wrong than to just type 3 characters into google.

      Congratulations on being the laziest most selfish person in existence, well for today anyway.

    104. Re:md5? by Panaflex · · Score: 1

      There's no maximum length - only a theoretical maximum set of hash numbers before you have collisions.

      So, an md5 hash has 128 bits of length, ergo 2^128 is the set size of hashes. That's best case. in practical terms you'll probably hit a collision before then. But I wouldn't worry... it will take a decade or two..

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    105. Re:md5? by dkh2 · · Score: 1

      It decrypts to "All your base are belong to us."

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    106. Re:md5? by earthloop · · Score: 1

      That's what "they" want you to think. That is just a fortunate collision.

    107. Re:md5? by Crazy+Taco · · Score: 1

      So are they trying to advocate an insecure Hash in their logo? Why, in this day and age, didn't they use a different hash algorithm?

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    108. Re:md5? by dkh2 · · Score: 1

      And that mission statement is....

      "All your base are belong to us."

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    109. Re:md5? by meustrus · · Score: 2, Informative

      As stated above, the md5 doesn't actually hold the information. It's a "one-way" encryption. There's no way to "decrypt" the hash into the information that created it, because the information is lost. The only way to find what generated the hash is to guess and generate. In this case, the earlier AC just guessed it was the mission statement (based on the clue in TFA) and simcop tried it out.

      Because it is "one-way" and an arbitrary amount of information can be lost, there is no limit to the size of the hash. It is very possible to take anything from a two-char string, to the entire Harry Potter series, to the entirety of all data produced by mankind, and produce a 128-bit MD5 sum.

      Another way of thinking about it is this: Say that 2+2=4. Now, we know the answer is 4. That doesn't tell us that the equation is 2+2. It could have been 3+1, 4*1, sqrt(16), or anything, really. Similarly, just because we know the answer is 42, doesn't mean we know the equation. 42 is the MD5 sum of life, the universe, and everything, and just because it's meaningless now doesn't mean it was meaningless before it was hashed.

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    110. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $10 and a bottle of beer to the first one who manages to find an MD5 collision that yields the same checksum but with a funny, embarrassing, or conspiracy-inspiring ASCII or UTF8 input!

    111. Re:md5? by steelfood · · Score: 1

      No, he's ignorant.

      By your definition, he's stupid. And ignorant. But no less stupid.

      Obviously, he didn't even think to look it up using google, wikipedia, or any other plethora of knowledge repositories available on the internet, before asking a question that would be trivial with any understanding of what a hash digest is.

      It's ignorant to not know something. I think everybody's guilty of that (I don't subscribe to Socratic epistemology) at one point or another, and will continue to be guilty of it as we live.

      It's stupid to not know how to use tools present and freely available to achieve a particular goal--the goal in this case being the answer to the question.

      As to answer of the original question:

      ... MD5 ... is a ... hash function with a 128-bit hash value.

      Source: First line of the wikipedia article on MD5

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    112. Re:md5? by Fruit · · Score: 1

      Yes there is, 2^56 bytes. See the algorithm.

    113. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are they super screwed when they change there mission satement

    114. Re:md5? by severoon · · Score: 1

      Quick?! This is /.! I would've expected the answer immediately following: "F1r5TTT P05T blhah!!!! (md5sum btw)"

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    115. Re:md5? by amentajo · · Score: 1

      $ echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: seek and destroy the 'anonymous coward' user on slashdot, while simultaneously engaging in direct warfare upon all clear definitions of the cyber command's mission statement so as to maximize the payout in future humoristic series" | md5sum
      e7af0759f645b6fe6e7994784bbfd407 -

    116. Re:md5? by deapbluesea · · Score: 1

      The subtext here is: A mission statement with integrity. Of course, since md5 is deprecated, it actually comes out as "A mission statement with compromised integrity". Go Cyber Comm!

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    117. Re:md5? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      "said in the article that it had to do with their mission"

      Exactly. I read that far, and went looking for their mission statement. Looked back here, and two people had apparently already done as much, ahead of me. Phhht. I'm not as smart as I thought I was, or at least not as smart as fast as other people, or something like that. ;^)

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    118. Re:md5? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      You can't recover ANY message from a hash. You can identify a message you already have using the hash, but you can't recover an unknown message from a hash. It is not a compression algorithm.

      You can uniquely identify each of the collected works of Harry Potter using the ISBN number (or the copyright year, for that matter), but you can't recover any of them from either of those numbers.

    119. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>>So it basically means that there is no limit.

      C'mon. You mean to tell me I can take the collected works of Harry Potter and boil them down to a 128 bit MD5 number? Wow that's some amazing test compression.

      You could throw the collected works of Asimov at it, and it would still generate a 128 bit number. You can grind down any finite number of libraries of congress into a single 128 bit number if you really wanted to.

      Okay no, I really don't believe either you or wikipedia.

      I would suggest reading up on how hashing works, and what its used for, but you're either too stubborn or too stupid, or lack the reading comprehension you accuse others of lacking, so might I suggest you just get it over with and stop making a fool of yourself here on a daily basis. Really now, go through your comment history and tell me you're just pretending to be as dumb as your comments suggest.

    120. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the good news is that this specific MD5 "holds" an infinite number of different messages (i.e. there are infinitely many messages that md5 to this digest).

    121. Re:md5? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Nice try. I gave a passing nanosecond's thought to the idea that you had actually worked out something to give the same hash. But, your failed.

      guy@guy-desktop:~$ echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: seek and destroy the 'anonymous coward' user on slashdot, while simultaneously engaging in direct warfare upon all clear definitions of the cyber command's mission statement so as to maximize the payout in future humoristic series" | md5sum
      e7af0759f645b6fe6e7994784bbfd407 -

      Does not match 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22b -

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    122. Re:md5? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      MEGALETDOWN

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    123. Re:md5? by grahamlee · · Score: 1

      But where did you find out what its mission is, if "Its mission is largely opaque"? Oh, that's right, it's written on the wikipedia entry and the department of defense factsheet :).

    124. Re:md5? by Americano · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You've never worked for a division/company/department that has a "mission statement" or "vision statement" before?

      This is typical bureaucratic jargon, I read it and thought for a second - "Hey I worked at that place before!" And then I realized that they didn't also claim they were going to "synergize... [their] product offerings while remaining the provider of choice for world-class enterprise solutions."

    125. Re:md5? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      By your definition, he's stupid.

      The phrase I used was "arguably stupid". This is not synonymous with "stupid".

      It actually means "you can make a case that he's stupid".

      Obviously, you are asserting that he is stupid. Fine. Your privilege.

      Just as it's my privilege to say that he's not stupid for asking that question, but merely ignorant of the subject matter. Nor is he necessarily stupid (key word being "necessarily") for not doing some research first - he might have assumed that the local experts would enlighten him rather than insult him.

      Note, by the by, that it's pretty easy to apply the "stupid" label to people who think that "stupid" and "arguably stupid" are synonymous....

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    126. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting a blowjob is always optional. Giving a blowjob is mandatory.
      Deputy Spook NSA

    127. Re:md5? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Nahhh. You're forgeting that it's FUN to argue, criticize, correct, brag, show off, etc ad nauseum. Even being wrong in an argument is more fun than learning anything. Check out 4chan and similar sites.

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    128. Re:md5? by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      So are they trying to advocate an insecure Hash in their logo? Why, in this day and age, didn't they use a different hash algorithm?

      Maybe there's a hash collision with their sekret mission statement?

    129. Re:md5? by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 1

      Heh, I even got modded insightful.

    130. Re:md5? by LeDopore · · Score: 1

      Honest answer: about 128 characters of typical English.

      Claude Shannon estimated that the rate of entropy of the English language is about one bit per character, so for a hash picked at random, the smallest typical English-language message with that hash would be about 128 characters long. (Of course, many longer messages also have the same hash, and finding the smallest English message that digests to the 128 bit hash is a hard problem.) That means that trying to put a longer-than-128-character message into a hash means there's some other, simpler English message with that hash too.

      Aside: "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." is 393 characters. That means there are almost certainly other, shorter English messages with the same md5 digest; if these guys are totally 1337 it would be awesome if they knew of another, terser secret message with the same md5 hash. Since they have control of the exact wording of the two messages, they might even have done a birthday attack to find a collision with variants of the shorter, secret message. Show of hands: are these dudes that 1337?

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    131. Re:md5? by slashkitty · · Score: 1

      Funny, it doesn't match the mission statement here: http://www.stratcom.mil/factsheets/cc/ That gives and md5sum of 98e1259d50ef66ddf1c6f443f8a86ec5 The stratcom.mil must have been compromised!

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    132. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Either you're trolling or you don't comprehend the difference between hashing, encryption, and compression.

      Have you read some of his other posts? I'd go with trolling. No one could be that stupid.

    133. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is none. It's a function. You give it an input you get an output. The function happens to be defined such that it always returns the same length out put regardless of the size of the input.

    134. Re:md5? by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      As much as it might be appalling that we would waste our time on these types of stories instead of better news worthy material, just saying!

    135. Re:md5? by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      you got my vote with that explanation!

    136. Re:md5? by Amouth · · Score: 1

      i think i just died a little inside..

      Scott Adam's removed the Dilbert mission statement generator. :(

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    137. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the language is that of a Mission Statement. There are companies that specialize in writing mission statements, and for a good reason: because mission statements are formulae, not straightforward English. That's also why they look so funny when you try to read them. It's a classic example of philosophy (of a sort) triumphing over common sense: when you look at the triumph with a bit of common sense, absurdity emerges. Read Aulus Gellius for more on that.

      If you want to make sense of a mission statement, you need to learn the formula for writing one first. One important thing is that mission statements reverse what in normal English would be the action (the verb, the main point or action) and the instrument (or verbal features of a sentence telling you how something would get done) to make the instrument into the new action and the old action into a purpose clause. That's how mission statement writers think: they need to express a purpose, even if there isn't one there in common-sense-land. That's also how verbs like "synergize" make it into the first part of a mission statement: they're almost expletives, filling the slot of the verb (action) left behind when the real action got moved to the purpose clause.

      The real English for that mission statement would read something like, "USCYBERCOM is in charge of and defends DOD networks so that our networks will work during a war, while our enemies' networks won't; we do this by planning and coordinating things relating to networks."

    138. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great explanation, but I doubt this guy will do any research to learn more. I have been reading Slashdot daily for years without ever posting anything, but his comment is so ignorant I had to say something.

    139. Re:md5? by owlstead · · Score: 1

      I know you are trying to be funny, but it's actually 2^64 - most hash functions are "limited" to 2^64 or 2^128 (due to the fact that the length is factored in).

      From the almighty Wikipedia: "The remaining bits are filled up with a 64-bit integer representing the length of the original message, in bits."

    140. Re:md5? by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      Granted, but in this case, he is. If you read /. long enough, certain people's comments stand out enough that you recognize their names on future comments, particularly when you find yourself saying "Wow, that's a dumb comment" and look to note it's the same name you've noted the last three times you said to yourself, "Wow, that's stupid..."

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    141. Re:md5? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      Yeah ok but how many characters would the md5 for "go google it" be?

    142. Re:md5? by owlstead · · Score: 1

      There are infinite other ones, it's just that we cannot find them (in time with current techniques).

    143. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      9ec4c DR
      12949 INK

      a4f31 MO
      474f2 RE

      99058 OV
      ce2b22a ALTINE

      (c) red rider BBgun inc.

    144. Re:md5? by dov_0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      because it was figured out long ago, check out the wikipedia article for "US Cyber Command"

      Actually if you check the history on that article, it was put up just after the publication of TFA, on the 7th of July this year.

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    145. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just EXPLAIN it to me

      You say that like it's not what happened.

    146. Re:md5? by ryanleary · · Score: 2, Informative

      whoooooosh.

    147. Re:md5? by lennier · · Score: 1

      They used the word 'cyberspace' without irony - twice.

      Glad they're Gibson fans I guess.

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    148. Re:md5? by lennier · · Score: 1

      "synergize... [their] product offerings while remaining the provider of choice for world-class enterprise solutions."

      That's military code for "launch nukes at Russia", isn't it?

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    149. Re:md5? by mattcarter · · Score: 1

      So what's the maximum length message that an MD5 number can hold?

      Infinite - 1

      No, no - infinity minus one is infinity. Or, more accurately, the cardinality of the set containing omega members is equivalent to the cardinality of the set containing omega minus one members (the sets are in one-one correspondence). What you mean is that the string can, in principle, be the length of any natural number.

    150. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean to tell me I can take the collected works of Harry Potter and boil them down to a 128 bit MD5 number?

      Or a Dewey decimal number, or an ISBN. They all mean the same thing as the 128bit hash: a (hopefully) unique representation for a set of data.

    151. Re:md5? by OneAhead · · Score: 1

      Hash functions are expressly designed to make this very difficult to do. Even though MD5 is not such a terrific hash function in the face of "recent" cryptographic advances and computer power, generating a mission statement that makes sense (clunkyly worded or not) and at the same time collides with something interesting would be one hell of a hard job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5#Security

    152. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See, this is "news for nerds". We're elitary. Although this place is thoroughly polluted with non-savvy people and their stupid stories and discussions, we still have to keep up *some* standards.

    153. Re:md5? by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      Exactly why it would be so damned cool. :P

      But you're right, more likely the clunky wording is because it was written by a computer geek who dropped English at their first opportunity and never really got more than a D in that class to begin with... ^.~

    154. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your "woosh" is a classic example of a premature ejaculation.

      See commodore64_love's later comment.

    155. Re:md5? by inKubus · · Score: 1

      Some of it is creative astro turfing. Like how Fox News used to put stuff in the form of a question (Is Obama a Socialist?).

      It all boils down to a crude form of suggestion, which they hope people will repeat, and thus create more news.

      What's weird is that it's so hard to pin down Murdoch's agenda, other than that he's an admitted fundamentalist christian.

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    156. Re:md5? by inKubus · · Score: 1

      Plus there are rainbow tables for md5 common passwords.

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    157. Re:md5? by calmofthestorm · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it's a fixpoint. IE, the md5sum of the logo image, including the md5sum...though the ability to compute that would be very interesting to know that they know how to do.

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    158. Re:md5? by Another,+completely · · Score: 1

      Proof that MD5 isn't secure. They were able to reverse-engineer a coherent mission statement that hashes to their encrypted secret message. Never trust a signed MD5 hash again.

    159. Re:md5? by sepelester · · Score: 1

      Yes I know, I was simply being brief.

    160. Re:md5? by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      go to sleep lewis or i'm telling ma about your playboys

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    161. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't compress to get an md5 hash. You typically won't be able to "recreate" data based on hash alone.

    162. Re:md5? by the_one_wesp · · Score: 1

      That would have been wicked (extremely - for those unfamiliar with that usage of the word) cool! But as everyone else pointed out, it's just an md5 of their freaking mission statement... rather boring.

    163. Re:md5? by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>Or what is north of the north pole....

      The vacuum of space, and probably a couple rocks.

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      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    164. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And suddenly I am reminded of the movie City Slickers.

      "Which way is north?"

      "*stares at map* ...up!"

      I knew you had some rather dangerous ideas (as well as some good ones, I will admit that you have those sometimes), but I didn't realize you were a complete moron.

    165. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Googling it yourself would have saved everyone time and limited your personal ignorance. Self learning is an important grown-up skill.

    166. Re:md5? by soppsa · · Score: 1

      Um is that an ignorance of what north means or a vein attempt at humour after your million or so above ignorances?

    167. Re:md5? by baryluk · · Score: 1

      Every sufficiently advanced cryptography technique is indistingushible from magic.

    168. Re:md5? by therealkevinkretz · · Score: 1

      Huh?

    169. Re:md5? by OneAhead · · Score: 1

      ...or by bureaucrat who thinks badly punctuated and difficult-to-read sentences make them look important/intelligent.

    170. Re:md5? by OneAhead · · Score: 1

      Gen. Vautrinot: 'Maybe it's time to revise that draft mission statement of ours. I was reading /. the other day and people were making fun of it. You know what I mean; "and" followed by a semicolon, really?'

      Gen. Alexander: 'I'd agree with you, Zan, but problem is, some "leet haxor" decided it would be cool to embed its MD5 hash into our logo. If we reword our mission statement, all our stationery has to be updated, which will be costly. There's no changing that mission statement.'

    171. Re:md5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And two cookies to whoever creates a MD5 collision based "Alternate Mission Statement" and sends it to the media as a conspiracy theory...

  2. I got it! by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't ... forget to... drink... your ovaltine?!?! a lousy commercial!?

    1. Re:I got it! by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 5, Funny

      funny, I decoded it and it came out "Ph4rma increase your p33nas size today for less $$$$"

    2. Re:I got it! by dkleinsc · · Score: 2, Funny

      Drat, I thought it said "Azh nazg durbataluk, azh nazg gimbatul"

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    3. Re:I got it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine says: "Don't. Do. Drugs." Who should I trust??

    4. Re:I got it! by Verteiron · · Score: 2, Funny

      Geez, warn a guy before you start flinging that stuff around, will you? My monitor went dark for a second there!

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    5. Re:I got it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I going to assume thats the same as above but in Dwarfish

    6. Re:I got it! by spong · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's really reads "All your base are belong to U.S.".

    7. Re:I got it! by ctchristmas · · Score: 1

      Nah, its "there is no cow level... or area 51."

    8. Re:I got it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you'll shoot your eye out!

  3. Duh, it's "Hello World" by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    Obviously.

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  4. Already Solved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The first reply in the Reddit thread already has the answer: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/cmxm0/proggit_if_you_decode_this_i_will_love_you/

  5. Obviously... by buddyglass · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...its their public key. :)

    1. Re:Obviously... by Tom · · Score: 1

      it's not, but the idea is great. For a whistleblowing service, Wikileaks like thing or something similar, incorporating your public key into the logo would be a great way to spread it.

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    2. Re:Obviously... by bonkeydcow · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was thinking the same, only I was going to say it's their private key.

    3. Re:Obviously... by beef3k · · Score: 1

      slightly painful if you have to revoke it...

    4. Re:Obviously... by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      since this is government, that is believable.

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    5. Re:Obviously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      256 bits is long enough for elliptic curve cryptography ...

    6. Re:Obviously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Painful, but obvious if they did revoke it..

    7. Re:Obviously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its probably the private key.

    8. Re:Obviously... by luk3Z · · Score: 1

      I think this is probably WEP key from U.S. Cyber Command wireless network sniffed by Google Street View car.

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  6. Next Up by PixieDust · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sony sues US Cyber Command for posting an AACS key (yes I know it's not).

  7. Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The code is the md5 of their mission statement. Nothing too crazy.

    1. Re:Done by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 1

      The code is the md5 of their mission statement. Nothing too crazy.

      Are you claiming their mission statement isn't crazy? Hmm, I wonder if you're part of the propaganda machine or a read herring? Let me see if I can find the answer encoded in their mission statement ...

    2. Re:Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this actually made me wonder if i could find kim jong il on facebook..

  8. And... by stressclq · · Score: 5, Informative
    It was quite swiftly found out to be the MD5 hash of (remove quotes): "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries."

    News at 11..

    1. Re:And... by epiphani · · Score: 0

      Uhm, except it doesn't.

      $ cat asdf
      USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries.
      $ md5sum asdf
      5a7a7c3fa0be751ed3350bb5184623ee asdf

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      .
    2. Re:And... by epiphani · · Score: 4, Funny

      Err, I take it back. It's a hash of the string itself, not a file containing the string.

      Sigh.

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      .
    3. Re:And... by tuffy · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's no newline at the end of the text. Try using "echo -n" over it.

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    4. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Fail.

    5. Re:And... by vossman77 · · Score: 1

      echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." | md5sum

      Gives:

      9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a -

    6. Re:And... by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      There's a spurious hyphen in the blurb. "... full-spectrum..." is how it is now. This is what other stories I've seen regarding this are about.

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    7. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just added an undue newline at the and of the string.

      $ echo "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." | md5sum
      5a7a7c3fa0be751ed3350bb5184623ee -

      $ echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." | md5sum
      9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a -

    8. Re:And... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      The file or lack thereof is irrelevant, it's that you added an extra newline at the end. echo -n suppresses the newline.

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    9. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that's someone wishing there was a delete post option about now.

    10. Re:And... by unwesen · · Score: 1

      Yes, Wikipedia has this.

    11. Re:And... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      This made my day. And its not even 9am yet.

    12. Re:And... by Tenser234 · · Score: 1

      That comes out to be: 5a7a7c3fa0be751ed3350bb5184623ee Right?

    13. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, it really is. These guys are obviously pretty secure...

    14. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You probably got a trailing newline in your file

  9. MD5 by FalconZero · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's (obviously) MD5 length. The results of a quick reverese MD5 lookup are as follows :

    USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries.

    However, as we all know, MD5 isn't 1-1. It could well just be a conincidence, or something completely different.

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    1. Re:MD5 by tuffy · · Score: 1

      That'd be a helluva coincidence.

      I had the same idea, though, and got the same result.

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      Ita erat quando hic adveni.

    2. Re:MD5 by FalconZero · · Score: 1

      (The US Cyber Command mission statement.)
      ....as stated by everyone else here, replies to the original article, wikipedia etc....

      Yet another reminder to me to use Google first, then do things like reverse MD5 lookups.....

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      Windows in 6 Bytes (IA-32) : 90 90 90 90 CD 19
    3. Re:MD5 by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, it turns out that every paragraph USCYBERCOM publishes will have the same MD5 hash; they are showing off their ability to find collisions.

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      Palm trees and 8
    4. Re:MD5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, as we all know, MD5 isn't 1-1. It could well just be a conincidence, or something completely different.

      If that's not the correct original text then we should be watching the skies for the Heart of Gold.

    5. Re:MD5 by zaaj · · Score: 1

      Why the skies? Doesn't that ship just show up where it probably shouldn't be?

  10. My code is stronger: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fbfa 30d8 09f5 038b c181 4cbb 86f7 5fae 7673 5a99 6d56 ac1e 0ecc 06ce 6808 ead3 6bc2 662a 85c6 2020 5279 6705 5d2a b037 9474 a2af 0f34 9ca6 0508 6ab6 20f2 3ac4

    I dare you to crack it. Really.

  11. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    = "All your bases are belong to us" ha!

  12. What you say? by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's "All Your Base Are Belong To Us!"

    Wait, too soon?

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    Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
    1. Re:What you say? by Joe+U · · Score: 1

      It could be worse, like "Where do you want to go today?"

    2. Re:What you say? by daveywest · · Score: 1

      I was going to guess "The cake is a lie."

  13. Google solved it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    md5 hash 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a = USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace ope

    see:http://isc.sans.edu/tools/reversehash.html

  14. Cracked it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    md5 hash 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a = USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace ope

  15. Wait! by multipartmixed · · Score: 4, Funny

    9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a?!!

    That's the combination to my luggage!

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    1. Re:Wait! by ngrier · · Score: 1

      Hey, whaddya know!?! That's the combination to my luggage, too!

  16. 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a. by Allnighte · · Score: 0, Redundant

    9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a?
    That's amazing!
    I've got the same combination on my luggage!

  17. I reckon by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Help, I'm being held prisoner in a logo factory"

    --
    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    1. Re:I reckon by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Funny

      REPEAT 360 [FD 3 RT 1]
      RT 90
      PU
      FD 100
      PD
      REPEAT 360 [FD 1 RT 1]
      HIDE TURTLE

      That's no LOGO factory -- it's a Death Star!

    2. Re:I reckon by qortra · · Score: 1

      For a moment, I thought you wrote "Lego factory", and I was dreaming about how cool that would be.

  18. Nothing to see here, move along. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's no secret. Somebody called their office and asked what it was. It's the mission statement.

    I'm sure the conspiracy nuts will just say that's a convenient hash collision and that the real message is the date and time the Loch Ness Bigfoot Anti-Christ from Betelgeuse heads up the New World Order.

    1. Re:Nothing to see here, move along. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, welcome my new Loch Ness Bigfoot Anti-Christ master from Betelgeuse. All hail the New World Order.

    2. Re:Nothing to see here, move along. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the mark of the beast!

    3. Re:Nothing to see here, move along. by Alsee · · Score: 1

      It's the coordinates of Barack Hussein Obama's place of birth.

      -

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    4. Re:Nothing to see here, move along. by ImprovOmega · · Score: 1

      It's a hash for the coordinates of Hawaii?

  19. easy by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    that's the US government's Windows Product Key

    and the purpose of Cyber Command is to keep track of all software activation and licenses, and make sure no bonehead buys a region 2 dvd disk

    the only reason Cyber Command's mission is opaque is that the government fears being sued by the BSA and MPAA because they installed windows xp on every government computer from a cd they bought in hong kong for $12, and they put an avi of "The Hangover" they got off of pirate bay on a network drive

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    1. Re:easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funnily enough.. software piracy is rampant in the military even on gov't computers. In Iraq, over 90% of our computers were running copies of windows that I torrented. We knew the DoD had valid licenses, but I don't think anybody actually knows what the correct VLK is. Same goes for Office and anything else you can think of.

  20. wifi key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's their wifi key. By putting it on their seal, nobody will ever need to remember exactly what it is. Good for visiting guests.

  21. OOOh, I know. by BobSixtyFour · · Score: 1

    Of course it says: Marblecake also the game

  22. Windows by DrugCheese · · Score: 1

    It's a Windows 95 key!

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    *DrugCheese rants*
  23. UP UP Down Down Left Right Left Right B A by ZirbMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    It seems pretty obvious.

    1. Re:UP UP Down Down Left Right Left Right B A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great! Now I have 10 extra lives.

  24. why bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    your just doing unpaid work for an ungrateful SOB govt

  25. Daddy, drive slower! by magusxxx · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you don't know : whose data not to touch : you must not value : your freedom very much : Burma Shave

    --
    Care killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
  26. Re:Here, I reversed the hash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It wasn't reversed, it was leaked.

  27. Public Key? by scottfk · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's their public key for sending them encrypted communication.

    --

    Be seeing you.

    scott

  28. Silly government! by scorp1us · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't they know MD5 is deprecated. They should be using SHA-1. Off to a disappointing start already...

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    1. Re:Silly government! by debrain · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't they know MD5 is deprecated. They should be using SHA-1. Off to a disappointing start already...

      SHA-1 is deprecated, too. They should be using SHA-2, or if they really want to show off SHA-3.

    2. Re:Silly government! by scorp1us · · Score: 1

      Absolutely true, but implementations of SHA > 1 are harder to find. MD5 and SHA-1 are everywhere, and there's just no excuse for not using SHA-1 these days.

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    3. Re:Silly government! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't touch SHA-3 for a few years! Stick to SHA-2, we wouldn't want another MD6 buffer overflow, would we?

    4. Re:Silly government! by mackil · · Score: 5, Funny

      I find your lack of Salt disturbing...

    5. Re:Silly government! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, using SHA-3 really would be showing off since selection of the standard is not scheduled until 2012.

    6. Re:Silly government! by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't they know MD5 is deprecated. They should be using SHA-1. Off to a disappointing start already...

      Military group logos are not intended to be secure. They are intended to be easy to recognize quickly and to inspire group pride. So they are symbolic, transparent, sometimes ironic and/or making an in-joke (such as three spur gears meshed, an arrangement which could not possibly turn), and often using archaic elements as historical references.

      MD5 is a cryptographic hash that, though now dated, was strong for its time, is commonly recognized, and if I recall correctly was the FIRST such hash function to achieve broad recognition for its use as a digest hash for detecting message tampering. Using an MD5 hash of the mission statement as an element of the logo is perfect form.

      The logo will no doubt outlast any current hash, so using a more modern digest algorithm would just date it - and make it less historic.

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    7. Re:Silly government! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should invent own hashing algorithm!

    8. Re:Silly government! by owlstead · · Score: 1

      SHA-3 is currently just a competition, not a specific hash algorithm. So even if you wanted to (but you shouldn't) you *cannot* use SHA-3. You can use Skein or one of the other candidates if you don't care about security though.

    9. Re:Silly government! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find your lack of Salt disturbing...

      Epic win!

  29. Re:Too easy - Solved! by Yamata+no+Orochi · · Score: 0

    Grats on posting this for the 11th time.

  30. Google ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://isc.sans.edu/tools/reversehash.html --> 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a

    Google knows!

  31. It reads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If you can read this, I've bluejacked your phone."
    "Monitoring your porn. You sick, sad puppy."
    "I read your email."
    "It's not a security hole, it's a feature!"
    "Mr. Anderson..."

  32. It says by dimethylxanthine · · Score: 0, Redundant

    All Your Base Are Belong To Us.

  33. Its the.. by BigJClark · · Score: 1


    It's the rosetta stone, literally, it's the key. That number is the hash for 42.

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    Hi, I Boris. Hear fix bear, yes?
  34. Cracked it by Evildonald · · Score: 1

    It says "COMSTOCK"

  35. wasn't meant to be a code by v1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Think about it. What organization wouldn't be at least somewhat interested in trying to put their entire mission statement in their logo? Success. And appropriate for them to use a hash for it. Although their choice of hash was poor. You'd think they would have used a more modern hash that's considered more secure? But maybe they wanted to go with that because they weren't intending for it to be secure, just fit, and be appropriate.

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    1. Re:wasn't meant to be a code by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

      I think a SHA256 sum would have been too long to fit on the logo:

      7521ea74913335fc0fb3a47dfa0ca32636ff59bceabadee0dcfbf25ad85a03eb

      That is twice as long as the MD5 hash; the logo has limited space, and I am guessing they did not want to force people to use a magnifying glass to see the numbers.

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    2. Re:wasn't meant to be a code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GENERAL: "I want our entire mission statement on our logo."
      DESIGNER: "But sir, we couldn't possibly fit the entire statement on the logo. It's just too long."
      GENERAL: "No excuses. Get it done! Just talk to the tech guys. They can compact it or zip it or something. We're the US Cyber Command for Gawd's sake."
      TWO DAYS LATER
      GENERAL: "What in sam hell is this crap? I can't read that."
      DESIGNER: "I had one of the Tech Officers run it through a compression algorithm and this is what came out the other end. He said it was a code."
      GENERAL: [SCRATCHES CHIN, THEN SMILES] "Good. Keep those Gall Darned terrorists occupied. Talk to someone in PR. Have them run a contest or something."

    3. Re:wasn't meant to be a code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You'd think they would have used a more modern
      > hash that's considered more secure?

      Not really. A more modern hash would be outdated soon(er or later).
      That by itself, in fact, would already be a good argument to pick an already outdated hash.

  36. One ring to rule them all..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One ring to rule them all.....

  37. Wait a minute... by natehoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's written in an obscure script on the inside of a golden ring?

    Well, duh. Isn't it obvious?

    "Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
    Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
    Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
    One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
    One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie."

    Quick! We need some midgets and an active volcano!

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    1. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can use Iceland's volcano. The US got a pretty military base up there, so getting there shouldn't be a problem.

    2. Re:Wait a minute... by beschra · · Score: 0

      Quick! We need some midgets and an active volcano!

      No we don't. Just need a few big eagles. Check out Lord of the Rings on How it Should have Ended. http://www.howitshouldhaveended.com/videos

      --
      It is unwise to ascribe motive
    3. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As this is the US, it's "One ring to rule the mall"

    4. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $ echo -n "Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
      Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie." | md5sum
      d9c1108bbf072670b7854066b5195dd5 -

    5. Re:Wait a minute... by natehoy · · Score: 1

      I love that site.

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    6. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick! We need some midgets and an active volcano!

      Eyjafjallajokull is still active right? Apparently Iceland = Mordor

    7. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      echo -n "Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky, Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne. In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie." | md5sum

      9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a -

      Holy shit!

    8. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick! We need some midgets and an active volcano!

      Sounds like a typical night in Vegas.

    9. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    10. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick! We need some midgets and an active volcano!

      That's my fantasy, too...

  38. Bluray by CODiNE · · Score: 1

    It's the key for the Eagle Eye bluray release.

    I don't know why they would have that in their logo, seems kind of random to me.

    Wait... is that a... a construction crane?? Whoah... looks like it's coming in this dir$@HHXxXXXX____

    NO CARRIER

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    1. Re:Bluray by TheHawke · · Score: 1

      No Spot! Don't chew on that... *FZZZTT!*

      NO TERRIER

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      First rule of holes; When in one, stop digging.
  39. Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by craftycoder · · Score: 1

    The article suggests that it can be "decoded" which just goes to show how uninformed the Cyber Commands PR guy is. A hash is a one way function. Furthermore, by the function's nature an endless supply of inputs will hash into the string he offered.

    1. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by s0litaire · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a continuation of the US's "Security by obscurity" policy.

      --
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    2. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by davidbrit2 · · Score: 1

      Which means it's time to start reversing this thing into as many humorous/offensive phrases as possible.

    3. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by mea37 · · Score: 1

      That's all fine and good in a textbook, and yet in the real world any number of people have "decoded" the message. Your objections are that the function is "one-way" and that it is not 1-to-1 (implying that there is no inverse function). However:

      "One-way function" only means "we don't know a convenient mathematical operation to reverse this"; if you want it to mean more, then there are no one-way functions. That the best algorithm for reversing the MD5 hash function may consist of "check likely inputs until you find a match", doesn't mean there's no algorithm. And, that is exactly what people have done to correctly decode the message.

      The fact that the same string could represent some other message in a different context doesn't change its unambiguous meaning in this context. A function that isn't 1-to-1 doesn't have a single general inverse, but it does have any number of inverses over restricted domains. That's why it's possible to have functions like arcsin.

      Maybe the PR guy isn't so much "ingorant" as "more interested in practical matters than mathematical theory". Pretty good attitude if your organization is going to deal with real-world security, actually.

    4. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by craftycoder · · Score: 1

      Assuming for a moment that the algorithm for reversing MD5 existed, it would have endless answers. Whatever domain restrictions you used would be useless because the encoding party could trivially obscure the message's domain (by padding it with 10^5 characters for example) and therefore reduce the decoding problem of MD5 down to the simple problem of learning the domain the sender selected. That, my friend, is the exact same problem you started with. A hash is not a cipher. It cannot be "decoded".

    5. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a continuation of the US's "Security by obscurity" policy.

      Personally I operate under a "Security by Promiscuity" policy. Anybody who asks for my key can have it! (Just don't tell my wife)

    6. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by mea37 · · Score: 1

      I do not understand why you apply words like "cannot" to something that has in fact been done. It rather sounds like you're insisting on a general solution to a specific problem. That's fine in an academic setting, but in reality theory has to yield to practice. Specific solutions are often more valuable in practice.

      Was the ability to decode this message a result of special circumstanceS? Yes - but what is reality otehr than a large mass of special circumstances?

      A hash can be used as a cipher if the receiving party has sufficient knowledge about the potential message. That doesn't make MD5 a general-purpose cipher, but it does mean that the original claim (that this message could be decoded) was correct, as has been demonstrated repeatedly.

    7. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by craftycoder · · Score: 1

      The parsimonious reality is that someone went to their Wikipedia page and grabbed their Mission Statement which in the context of the story in Wired which specifically used the word "mission" to point to the meaning of the hash made it easy to guess. If that is decoding, which I dispute, no one can dispute that is it in only the most trivial sense.

      That still doesn't make MD5 even a special-purpose cipher does it? You really have to know what the answer is before you start. MD5 is and remains a useful tool for checking the validity of know source as well as some other things, but without having a known list of possible messages it has no utility as a cipher. If you are going to have a known list of possible messages exchanged in advance, why bother with hash function anyway? Why not just say:
      1 = feed the fish
      2 = feed the dog
      3 = feed the man

      Certainly using md5 in this context is needless complication.

      5ebaad7800c950d0077d7f322321dcf4 = feed the fish
      9418385622773e4cdeeeb828dd3ece98 = feed the dog
      4b2c95a01e6ddd48a5ac39be8f86f85b = feed the man

    8. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by mea37 · · Score: 1

      "The parsimonious reality is that someone went to their Wikipedia page and grabbed their Mission Statement which in the context of the story in Wired which specifically used the word "mission" to point to the meaning of the hash made it easy to guess"

      That may be parsimonious, but it isn't the approach people actually used. Go read the comments of the first few who posted a result. You probably will then find yourself asking, "what is this MD5 reverse-lookup and how does it work?"

      Your desire to limit the definition of "decode" is your problem alone. We started with a messaget whose meaning was hidden, and we ended with the meaning of the message.

    9. Re:Cyber Command doesn't understand MD5 do they. by craftycoder · · Score: 1

      Well, we disagree. That is not THE meaning, it a one of 3.5^10000000 meanings (give or take infinity other ones).

      Ever wonder how those reverse-lookups work? Someone enters the source text in originally and then the reverse look is just a hash table of the original inputs "keyed" to the output of the first keying. Or do you think that someone has a piece of software running that computed all known MD5 hashes up to 393 characters? That would be 393^256 (10^664) records in the database? That is more data than is stored on every CD plus every hard disk on the planet, but I digress.

      I guess I am just old fashioned, I found the answer by going to defense.gov and found the 1 page fact sheet PDF that had the mission statement on it and "broke it" that way (typing it forward into one of those reverse look ups in fact). You are making me feel pretty clever though. I'm a "real" code breaker. Very cool!

      Good day to you sir.

      BTW: http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2010/0410_cybersec/docs/CYberFactSheet%20UPDATED%20replaces%20May%2021%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

  40. Re:Too easy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    decode_md5 --lang en-us 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a

    USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries.

  41. Beware the word "cyber" by SlappyBastard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where you see the word cyber, there is an idiot nearby waiting to waste your money.

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    I scream. You scream. I assume that means we're both acquainted with the problem. We proceed.
    1. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by Kineticabstract · · Score: 1

      Where you see the word cyber, there is an idiot nearby waiting to waste your money.

      Hmmmm... I see your point. ^^^^^^ But I'm not going to give you my money, if you're just going to waste it!

    2. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not what the marketers at the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation told me!

    3. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by SlappyBastard · · Score: 1

      But, but . . . the word cyber means "awesome tower of computer awesomeness!" How can you not want to fork over millions of dollars to me? I used one of my keywords in the PowerPoint, dammit!

      --
      I scream. You scream. I assume that means we're both acquainted with the problem. We proceed.
    4. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      I'm sure it's not just me, but I go into convulsions any time I hear the terms "cyberspace", or even worse, the "information superhighway."

      I think even about now, the phone books think that those terms are tired and obsolete.

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    5. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Also the places you don't see the word cyber.

    6. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by Securityemo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, maybe. I'm not a US national, but I think that they're ovbiously still in the phase where they're trying to gather the expertise to know what in the hell they're doing - like a 14-year old kid asking people "how to hack." This is a neccessary phase, because they probably don't/didn't even know where to look; the security scene can be confusing.

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    7. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where you see the word cyber, there is an idiot nearby waiting to waste your money.

      No, the idiot is the government, sold on some new jargon; the businesses capitalizing on this are not idiots at all.

    8. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by Spykk · · Score: 1

      Excepting when it is used as a verb?

    9. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by lennier · · Score: 1

      Hey now! I enjoyed paying for the Sprawl Trilogy and Burning Chrome!

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    10. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this is /. , but... would you really pay for cyber?

    11. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by cybernanga · · Score: 1

      erm, I'm not sure what to say to that!

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    12. Re:Beware the word "cyber" by SlappyBastard · · Score: 1

      Your sig does have the word "buy" in it. Just sayin' . . .

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  42. Obviously.... by lattyware · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's the WEP key for their WiFi. Handy for all staff who forget easily.

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    -- Lattyware (www.lattyware.co.uk)
    1. Re:Obviously.... by Toenee · · Score: 1

      lol, that almost made me pee!

  43. Pull the Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remind me to pull the plug on the Internet links before I declare war with the United States of America and I'll be safe.

    Save the bullets, bombs and missiles, I guess.

  44. Javascript Hijack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when does Wired support hijacking user's clipboards?

  45. Easy! It's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a launch code that Joshua is looking for...

  46. It says... by alfredo · · Score: 1

    Kryptos is gibberish. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptos

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  47. Unwise by andyh-rayleigh · · Score: 1

    Is it wise to put the md5 hash of a mission statement that is likely to be subject to frequent change on a logo which should not?

    1. Re:Unwise by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      hey, on the bright side if they try to change it and say it's always been that way, we can point at their logo (especially any that are engraved) and say: nuh-uh you changed it!
      -nB

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    2. Re:Unwise by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1, Funny

      Is it wise to put the md5 hash of a mission statement that is likely to be subject to frequent change on a logo which should not?

      Yeah--think of poor NASA. They'd have to re-print all their letterhead and fix all their signs after changing their mission from "Explore space" to "Tell third-world countries how awesome their contribution to science and technology are".

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    3. Re:Unwise by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      They'll just be smart enough to change their mission statement to a collision of their existing MD5.

  48. Activation key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the free activation key for Windows 7, provided by the US GOV..... or the code to access the backdoor of Windows...

  49. It says by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    "United States Cyber Command"

    What do I win?

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    Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
  50. What about hash collisions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like it was cracked in the Wired article's comments as early as lunch time, yesterday.

    > Posted by: jemelehill | 07/7/10 | 12:46 pm

    What would be funny now, is to find some MD5 collisions.

  51. Shame on Cyber Command by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For using a known-vulnerable hash function.

    Not SHA-2, not SHA-1, but MD5?

    Please tell met they're not also using DES-56 on their PDP-11s.

  52. A better logo by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

    The proper logo for a Cybercommand that could do its job well would be a PHB skull wearing a military cap with the motto "Defending against all enemies foreign, domestic, and corporate."

  53. Another level of coding? by SloWave · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's more interesting is if you take the first letters of each word in their mission statement and parse them correctly, you get 'UPC is a cat' followed by a list of acronyms for all sorts of shadowy secret organizations and technologies...

    upc is a cat dto ados dod in a pta wd cfs mco io tea ia de UA foa i cad tst oa

    1. Re:Another level of coding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anagram for "Addict spacious fat and odd cowpat"

    2. Re:Another level of coding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      upc is a cat

      So THAT"S where all those :Cue Cats went...

  54. A let-down by weav · · Score: 1

    Darn, and here I was hoping it'd be something cool, like "Ha, made you look" or "The magic words are squeamish ossifrage" or something...

  55. No, it is the hash of: by drewhk · · Score: 1

    "Meine Ehre heißt Treue"

  56. Very obviously, what it means is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...it's the location of Obama's birth certificate.

  57. How terribly lame! by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

    - This code was not "cracked" it was found on google.

    - MD5 is deprecated.

    - The word "cyberspace" is a science-fiction invention, ill-defined.

    - "military cyberspace operations" ??? Yes instead of landing on Normandy Beach, hundreds of troops and equipment will emerge from cable modems.

    - William Gibson would dedicate an entire chapter in a book to denigrating the cretins who thought that this was a suitable symbol.

  58. I think that... by bagsta · · Score: 1

    ...the binary value is much easier to decipher...
    000101000111
    010011110010
    100110010000
    010110001100
    111000110000
    000000000000

    --
    Until the skies turn blue...
    Until the air of freedom strikes us...
    1. Re:I think that... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Hey, I have that tattooed on my ass!

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  59. Mission statement? by PPH · · Score: 1

    echo -n "One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them." | md5sum
    21d0513ded71ba72e0857c6a82fe33a8 -

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  60. Like an old-time theater mask by HikingStick · · Score: 1

    It's like an elaborately decorated theater mask, used to convey emotions to people in the nosebleed seats at ancient ampatheaters. In this case, the decoration is meant to convey "we know a lot about cyber-security" to the American people, who have even a harder time knowing what's real versus what's security theater than did ancient observers listening to a line like "Et, tu, Brute?"

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    I use irony whenever I can, but my shirts are still wrinkled...
  61. My Locker Combination! by codecore · · Score: 1

    Holy crap, that's my locker combination! How did they get that? Now I'm gonna have to get a new lock. Damn-it!

  62. no it's the chevron 9 dialing code! by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    no it's the chevron 9 dialing code!

  63. MD5 - supposed to be pretty basic by Firethorn · · Score: 3, Informative

    I almost replied before I saw the GP's post explaining it, but was hesitant because I was wondering if you were trolling.

    'googling it', in this instance, or looking it up on wiki is fairly logical because it will give you a well written description without us going through the effort of writing it ourselves.

    I didn't realize it was essentially a random, unrecoverable number.

    It's deliberate that you're not able to recover the original message from the MD5 sum, but 'random' is very much NOT true. It's used as data verification - a small change, even just a bit, in the message stream will result in a vastly different number. But feed it the same data, and you'll get the same number back, every time.

    This allows you to verify things like messages and binaries haven't been altered from their original verified state.

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  64. Credit where credit is due by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

    This idea is ultra geeky cool.
    I wish I had thought of it.

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    If I were God, wouldn't I protect my churches from acts of me?
    1. Re:Credit where credit is due by Mr_Perl · · Score: 1

      Sorta, but really, if the cyber command is using an algorithm with plenty of issues like MD5, should not worry a little?

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      My poetry site welcomes the unusual.
    2. Re:Credit where credit is due by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      I am impressed that they could make an MD5 hash.

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      If I were God, wouldn't I protect my churches from acts of me?
  65. Mysteries within mysteries... by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

    When you run the numerical code in the US Cyber Command's logo through a standard two-pass RSA decryption, match it against known quantum fractal ciphers, look at it in a mirror while standing on your head, and de-converge your eyeballs to get the stereo effect, it reads as follows:

    "A/S/L?"

    But what could it possibly mean?

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    Bow-ties are cool.
  66. The solution was already posted... by gearloos · · Score: 1

    USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries.

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    1. Re:The solution was already posted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may be and md5 hash though the value of the hash is not their mission statment http://i26.tinypic.com/5mesra.png [tinypic.com] made using fourmilab's md5 tool http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/ [fourmilab.ch]

      also try entering the mission statement in these online md5 hash tools:
      http://www.md5hashgenerator.com/index.php [md5hashgenerator.com]
      http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/md5.php [miraclesalad.com]

      I'm sure you can find others that generate the same results as the ones listed above that again produce the result 98e1259d50ef66ddf1c6f443f8a86ec5 and not 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a

      Don't believe everything you read on the net without finding out whether or not it's true yourself =)

  67. Got it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got it!! "All Your Base Are Belong To Us".

  68. deprecated doesn't mean what you think it does by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 1

    Every day new digital signatures (for example, SSL certificates) are issued using SHA-1. You can go to https://www.google.com/ right now and check the cert chain and see the signatures for the Thawte intermediate authority and www.google.com are secured by SHA-1 hashes.

    So although SHA-1 has shown a few issues so far, it's not really properly deprecated yet. And if it were (is?) broken, virtually all SSL sites would be susceptible to man-in-the-middle attacks.

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  69. DUDE !!! You found my car ! by DriveDog · · Score: 1

    Yes, I realize it's not the right length for a VIN.

    Someone suggested WEP key... I thought everyone using WEP had memorized their key by now, since they've had to type the darn thing in so many times. Or do some people keep changing their WEP key?

  70. Obvious by hduff · · Score: 1

    All Your Base Are Belong To Us

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  71. "Cyber" anything by SlappyBastard · · Score: 1

    It's a misuse of the term 99% of the time it's employed. "Ccyber" was never meant to be used generically, and it is also intended to be used in fields well outside computing. Within computing, it expresses a fairly narrowly focused set of fields, mostly relating to decision systems, such as robotics and simulation.

    But, so-called cyberwarfare is boondoggle anyhow. The fact that the rhetoric surrounding so easily flags as a boondoggle is, I guess a positive. Or it would be if the people making these decisions weren't still trying to program their goddamned VCR.

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  72. Re:md5? hehee by cartercole · · Score: 1

    quick find a collision for some text that makes them sound really dumb for not using a stronger hashing algorithm

  73. not the mission statment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It may be and md5 hash though the value of the hash is not their mission statment http://i26.tinypic.com/5mesra.png made using fourmilab's md5 tool http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/

    also try entering the mission statement in these online md5 hash tools:
    http://www.md5hashgenerator.com/index.php
    http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/md5.php

    I'm sure you can find others that generate the same results as the ones listed above that again produce the result 98e1259d50ef66ddf1c6f443f8a86ec5 and not 9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a

    Don't believe everything you read on the net without finding out whether or not it's true yourself =)

  74. The wheels on the logo go round-n-round by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...

  75. MD5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MD5 isn't the only hash algorithm with 16-byte blocks and a few symmetric encryption algorithms (AES) also sport 16-byte block sizes.

    Come to think of it Windows NT OWF's are 16 bytes as well. Maybe it just says "password" ... can we brute force submit guesses until we get it right?

  76. Here it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    % echo -n "USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries." | md5sum
    9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a -

  77. It is the US nuclear weapons code... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is the US nuclear weapons code. At last year's briefing it was learned that it was unsafe to write your password on a post-it on the side of your nukes; they hide it in plain site.

  78. Re:Too easy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i type that into notepad n it doesnt work, just puts a new line

    do i need windows 7??? my dell only has vista...

  79. Two possible solutions.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is either:

      "A Division Of Google"

    or

    "USCC@gmail.com"

  80. I've cracked it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If you can read this, then you need to get laid more."

  81. Re:Too easy - Solved! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    I thought we were going for the 'leventy 'leventh time. SOMEONE has to do the 'leventh time, if we're ever going to reach 'leventy 'leventh!

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  82. it's the crypto key to free Cokes at the lunchroom by swschrad · · Score: 1

    however, the keyboard is octal, and you have 10 seconds to translate in your head and enter the key.

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  83. Maybe they only want us to think it's the mission by joeflies · · Score: 1

    Maybe they worded the public mission statement in such a fashion so that the MD5 actually has a collision with their still yet unknown private mission statement. Tin foil hat now off.

  84. Pointing out the obvious by thethibs · · Score: 1

    It's not EBCDIC (the U.S. Government's first official code).

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  85. Government spending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much did it cost to hire an artist to design and build that crest for the government?

  86. Here is why they are calling you stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why they're calling you stupid is that you can't decode. Thus you can't transmit anything.

    Thinking you can decode shows that you have no clue what a MD5 is or what it is used for.

  87. Called US Strategic Command by TKBui · · Score: 1

    Called US Strategic Command to get an understanding of the decision process to selecting MD5 as the crypto method for the logo. Was called backed by a Lt. Commander (same as a Major) who advised that it was just to ref. back to earlier crypto methods. Call US Strategic Command yourself: Media Relations: (402) 294-5659 or (402) 294-4130. Hmmm... Wonder if the military will send black helicopters and SUV's to my location... Oh Tor... hope you are doing what I think your supposed to do. If I get renditioned... can I go to somewhere...

  88. it's a trick! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    >>>So it basically means that there is no limit.

    C'mon. You mean to tell me I can take the collected works of Harry Potter and boil them down to a 128 bit MD5 number?

    Trick question. Harry Potter hasn't written any works!

  89. Made in China by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    End Decode.

    Begin cry.

  90. what it really means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the writing on a gold ring...i have seen this before...oh yeah,

    Three rings for the elven kings under the sky. (i.e. heads of our friendly powerful countries England, France? )
    Seven rings for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone. (i.e. the heads of the most powerful government agencies, no such agency, culinary institute of america, etc)
    nine for mortal men doomed to die...(i.e. politicians or military with out lifetime positions.)
    One for the dark lord on his dark throne.
    in the land of washington where every one lies. ...oops i digress. Well you know the rest i am sure.

  91. I've cracked the code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Translated, it says "Congratulations, Federal officers will be at your door any minute to take you away in handcuf....

  92. FAIL by djdevon3 · · Score: 1

    1st off the mission statement is in corporate speak instead of a motto. The whole thing is just dumb. I must admit their new logo kicks butt compared to their old logo which was posted in CPU mag I read a while ago. I think that article was titled "Cyber-Terrorism: Fact or Fiction". As cool as the new logo is complete with MD5.... what the MD5 represents is seriously lame. Another mission statement? Seriously Maguire and passe'. A motto is definitely needed. Something like "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" is a recurring theme and one that does truly suit that organization. It's unprofessional but appropriate and does strike fear into any electronic enemy. Something of a professional equivalent is needed. I propose: "GATEKEEPERS". It's simple, professional, and somewhat mystic. When in defense; our branches of military are in effect supposed to be our "guardians". The same can be said for our electronic infrastructure. Offensive only when forced into defense. Block and punch.

  93. OMG! It's the end of the world... possibly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I teach at a School for Autistic children and all they do is sit around writing out this sequence all day followed by what looks like a date 11-11-2027...

    Could that be the day the world ends? the day Jesus comes back? the day we get closure on The Sopranos?

    Someone in the Government knows this. I DEMAND TRANSPARENCY!

  94. Disappointing by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 1

    This is very disappointing. Perhaps there's some hidden code in their mission statement? Maybe? Or maybe there's another super-secret message that has the same MD5SUM?? Something? :( This is worse than the time Santa told me the Easter Bunny didn't exist.

  95. I Cracked It by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    The code is just "US Cyber Command" encrypted.

    Prove I'm wrong!

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    make install -not war

  96. Microsoft Advertisement by JsrNull · · Score: 1

    Once again the US Government asserts its commitment to Microsoft.

    I think that it says a great deal about who our Government is in bed with when the md5 hash only gives this number (9ec4c12949a4f31474f299058ce2b22a) when the mission statement is encoded in the default Windows western character encoding and stored on a Windows machine.

    You can't get this value hashing the mission statement and saving it on a Linux machine unless you spend some time jimmying the character encoding and carriage return style.

  97. Find this ironic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Find this ironic because MD5 is not a FIPs certified algorithm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Information_Processing_Standard).