I apologize in advance if this is stupid, but isn't what you're talking about exactly what SETI does?
The question is not at all stupid. SETI@Home does this, as does Folding@Home, Distributed.net etc...
But in all of these cases the calculations being done are determined by the server. I'd like to see a system where the calculations could be determined by the users. Providing everyone doesn't need to calculate huge stuff all the time it should work.
The major issue is data security. The program has to be flawless in that area, otherwise a malicious calculation submitted into the grid could have a disastrous effect.
Distributed computing has been a long time coming. Sure, grids are cool, but when can we download a safe piece of software which to use for distributed calculations? When I'm not it need of doing stuff myself it would use my idle time for other people's calculations, and vice versa.
Sure it doesn't work for any type of calculation, but there's still a huge potential.
Distributed backups is another thing I'd like to have now, rather than tomorrow...
Hmm... I think with some proper tools and software you should be able to auto-align the dish
Yes, but...
From the article: The dish I'm carrying around Oz is 1.8m - though it's oval and the largest diameter is 2m. It weighs in at around 100kg, and with the electronics attached more like 150kg.
The problem is you need a really Badass motor and gearbox to even be able to move the dish around. The signal-detection bit isn't that hard, assuming my military digital radio experience is a sensible comparison. Basically you choose the appropriate frequency and approximate direction, then you just align for the strongest signal.
Cool Edit happens to be my editor of choice, but I suspect mainstream software availablilty to be more essential than the availability of less widespread software.
Even though the solutions might exist a large enough mass needs to want the product for the cashflow to sustain the business. Critical mass is seldom achieved unless there is a clear market niche, and AV software in general is not really a niche anymore.
And I don't see av getting it in Linux the same as BeOS. The point I was making was BeOS did AV everything else was an extra. On other OS's AV is the extra.
True, but the amount of development that goes into Linux, even just on the AV side, probably already surpasses the comparative efforts for BeOS. I believe consumers will opt for Linux in hope of a promising future on the software development front. I'm not convinced BeOS can deliver the same.
Please don't see this as a bashing at BeOS. I have great respect for BeOS, but I'm merely trying to hypothesise based on what little I know of market economies.
The Audio tools in Windows and Mac have caught up but the power per machine spec has not. The things you could do AV with BeOS on lower spec machines is the same as the comaparision of Linux server's power per processor spec versus Windows.
An operating system taylored around just AV file system and hardware access concerns is not a bad thing. Windows is too generic, MAC too resource intensive, Linux lacking but catching up in the AV realm.
But will this solution really be cheaper than a more powerful machine running Windows/OS X and suitable audio software?
Also: Can you get Logic/Cubase/Cakewalk/Reason/Sound Forge/[comparable product here] for BeOS?
I'd suspect the budget-concious consumer would end up opting for Linux, at least after 2.6 is with us (major realtime app speedups I've understood).
Is there really a market for these solutions? Sure, BeOS was great a while back, but Mac OS X, Linux and even Windows have all catched up in many respects. There's also OpenBeOS, even though it's not finished yet.
With two drums one could do binary transmission quite easily. When adding time-based stuff even more complex patterns could be achieved.
From the article: Whats the point you may ask? We aren't trying to set any speed records here (actually, we have been developing some ideas for "highspeed" bongos), but rather we're showing that the lower layers of the OSI model can be replaced with any form of media without affecting the layers above it.
Now I wonder... when will someone actually do TCP/IP over smoke signals?
Apart from obvious decoding and wind issues, it should work just as well!
Standby for all the "I used to travel 5 miles in snow, uphill both ways to buy a 500 byte floppy drive to install in a 1 Hz system"
Actually... My friend and I use to get a lazy hard drive motor to start by shaking the drive, after which it worked fine. The shaking was facilitated by a little piece of steel wire, connected to the drive which was loose inside the computer. Ah... The wonders of good old military grade mass storage.
I stared thinking... which personal computers were ever made based on the 8008? The Altair is obvious, and now I know of the MCM/70. But I can't seem to recall anything else. (OK, I was born late 79, might be relevant;)
If I've understood corretly the IBM PC bas based on the 8016 (might be wrong here), so no help there.
But I'm gussing you are after x86 on x86, so why not just use VMWare?
With VMWare I need a badass machine to run a machine inside of another without having slowdowns in either one. With an actual piece of hardware I can do anything with either box and be sure that the other one won't be affected.
Another good reason is the fact that two PCs of moderate performance usually cost less than one which is twice as fast. Besides, when using emulation it'd have to be faster than twice as fast.
12 by 12 centimeters (120 millimeters) is the same size as a CD... I wonder if one could squeeze one of these machines into one or two drivebays... I could definetly use a nice little dev box inside my regular box!
I could seriously see the day that we pay per bit, but right now, people would revolt agianst it. It's too hard to tell someone they have to pay for something that used to be "free".
My guess is that some things are eventually going to be free, like phone calls. You won't be paying for the phone call itself, but you will be paying for the data transfered.
Just like electricity and water I believe data will end up as a basic service provided in our homes, but for a fee. So a phone call will be free just like using your computer or CD player is free, but the data will have a fee attached, just as the electricity does now.
I'll still take real dead trees over electronic paper for my leisure reading, I I think, but how about the opposite application: writing? "Print" a document to the paper, mark it up in a meeting, and have the changes all saved without having to go back and mark it up again on your PC.
With a touchscreen-enabled piece of electronic paper writing shouldn't pose a problem. Combined with advanced text recognition it might even be superior to regular prints, as the document could be updated on the fly.
I have, and many are quite content with what they'we done in life and really feel that it's a good thing that life eventually ends. There are bound to be exceptions though.
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In fact, distributed computing and "grids" are older than you are.
;)
Care to elaborate? Making claims is easy, but I'd like to know what you mean
I apologize in advance if this is stupid, but isn't what you're talking about exactly what SETI does?
The question is not at all stupid. SETI@Home does this, as does Folding@Home, Distributed.net etc...
But in all of these cases the calculations being done are determined by the server. I'd like to see a system where the calculations could be determined by the users. Providing everyone doesn't need to calculate huge stuff all the time it should work.
The major issue is data security. The program has to be flawless in that area, otherwise a malicious calculation submitted into the grid could have a disastrous effect.
Distributed computing has been a long time coming. Sure, grids are cool, but when can we download a safe piece of software which to use for distributed calculations? When I'm not it need of doing stuff myself it would use my idle time for other people's calculations, and vice versa.
Sure it doesn't work for any type of calculation, but there's still a huge potential.
Distributed backups is another thing I'd like to have now, rather than tomorrow...
Hmm... I think with some proper tools and software you should be able to auto-align the dish
Yes, but...
From the article: The dish I'm carrying around Oz is 1.8m - though it's oval and the largest diameter is 2m. It weighs in at around 100kg, and with the electronics attached more like 150kg.
The problem is you need a really Badass motor and gearbox to even be able to move the dish around. The signal-detection bit isn't that hard, assuming my military digital radio experience is a sensible comparison. Basically you choose the appropriate frequency and approximate direction, then you just align for the strongest signal.
Just my 2 cents anyhow...
The iRiver Nordic site carries the specs.
you don't mention Cool Edit or Samplitude
Cool Edit happens to be my editor of choice, but I suspect mainstream software availablilty to be more essential than the availability of less widespread software.
Even though the solutions might exist a large enough mass needs to want the product for the cashflow to sustain the business. Critical mass is seldom achieved unless there is a clear market niche, and AV software in general is not really a niche anymore.
And I don't see av getting it in Linux the same as BeOS. The point I was making was BeOS did AV everything else was an extra. On other OS's AV is the extra.
True, but the amount of development that goes into Linux, even just on the AV side, probably already surpasses the comparative efforts for BeOS. I believe consumers will opt for Linux in hope of a promising future on the software development front. I'm not convinced BeOS can deliver the same.
Please don't see this as a bashing at BeOS. I have great respect for BeOS, but I'm merely trying to hypothesise based on what little I know of market economies.
The Audio tools in Windows and Mac have caught up but the power per machine spec has not. The things you could do AV with BeOS on lower spec machines is the same as the comaparision of Linux server's power per processor spec versus Windows.
An operating system taylored around just AV file system and hardware access concerns is not a bad thing. Windows is too generic, MAC too resource intensive, Linux lacking but catching up in the AV realm.
But will this solution really be cheaper than a more powerful machine running Windows/OS X and suitable audio software?
Also: Can you get Logic/Cubase/Cakewalk/Reason/Sound Forge/[comparable product here] for BeOS?
I'd suspect the budget-concious consumer would end up opting for Linux, at least after 2.6 is with us (major realtime app speedups I've understood).
Is there really a market for these solutions? Sure, BeOS was great a while back, but Mac OS X, Linux and even Windows have all catched up in many respects. There's also OpenBeOS, even though it's not finished yet.
So, is there a market, or not?
With two drums one could do binary transmission quite easily. When adding time-based stuff even more complex patterns could be achieved.
From the article: Whats the point you may ask? We aren't trying to set any speed records here (actually, we have been developing some ideas for "highspeed" bongos), but rather we're showing that the lower layers of the OSI model can be replaced with any form of media without affecting the layers above it.
Now I wonder... when will someone actually do TCP/IP over smoke signals?
Apart from obvious decoding and wind issues, it should work just as well!
Want to see a creature who's roots date back to the beginning of life on Earth? Look in the mirror.
Or try Lapland (northern Finland/Scandinavia) in the summer. You'll get to combine Jurassic fauna and Extreme Sports!
You do like mosquitoes, right?
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Thanks! I'll get right on it when I get home!
How do we know this is the only plant species to survive? What are the criteria? DNA mutates all the time, so how is this plant different?
OK now, be a good Slashdotter and download the high quality version, then put it up on the eDonkey network for sharing.
;)
That way I'll be able to download it later today with a minimal of fuss
Forget drivebay: a better place would be to mount it in a car
I don't have a car, you insesitive clod!
No then... I've purged the obligatory Slashdot humor, and now I can tell you that indeed is a great idea!
Standby for all the "I used to travel 5 miles in snow, uphill both ways to buy a 500 byte floppy drive to install in a 1 Hz system"
Actually... My friend and I use to get a lazy hard drive motor to start by shaking the drive, after which it worked fine. The shaking was facilitated by a little piece of steel wire, connected to the drive which was loose inside the computer. Ah... The wonders of good old military grade mass storage.
I stared thinking... which personal computers were ever made based on the 8008? The Altair is obvious, and now I know of the MCM/70. But I can't seem to recall anything else. (OK, I was born late 79, might be relevant ;)
If I've understood corretly the IBM PC bas based on the 8016 (might be wrong here), so no help there.
What computers are there based on the 8008?
The Altair was the one true first personal computer, I will not submit to this blasphemy!
*proceeding to read the article*...
here ya go: TerraSoft's briQ
;)
Been around for a long time, based on powerpc (350 or 800mhz G3, or 500mhz G4), 168pin DIMMs, VFD display included, and runs linux to boot!
Nice, but doesn't beat hacking it together yourself
But I'm gussing you are after x86 on x86, so why not just use VMWare?
With VMWare I need a badass machine to run a machine inside of another without having slowdowns in either one. With an actual piece of hardware I can do anything with either box and be sure that the other one won't be affected.
Another good reason is the fact that two PCs of moderate performance usually cost less than one which is twice as fast. Besides, when using emulation it'd have to be faster than twice as fast.
12 by 12 centimeters (120 millimeters) is the same size as a CD... I wonder if one could squeeze one of these machines into one or two drivebays... I could definetly use a nice little dev box inside my regular box!
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The really funny thing is I was serious about this...
I could seriously see the day that we pay per bit, but right now, people would revolt agianst it. It's too hard to tell someone they have to pay for something that used to be "free".
My guess is that some things are eventually going to be free, like phone calls. You won't be paying for the phone call itself, but you will be paying for the data transfered.
Just like electricity and water I believe data will end up as a basic service provided in our homes, but for a fee. So a phone call will be free just like using your computer or CD player is free, but the data will have a fee attached, just as the electricity does now.
I'm not saying I necessarily like it though.
When will the politicians figure out that VoIP is a going to end up as a product, not a service?
When will people in general figure out that data transfer is going to end up as a service, not a product?
Now then, bring on the bashing...
I'll still take real dead trees over electronic paper for my leisure reading, I I think, but how about the opposite application: writing? "Print" a document to the paper, mark it up in a meeting, and have the changes all saved without having to go back and mark it up again on your PC.
With a touchscreen-enabled piece of electronic paper writing shouldn't pose a problem. Combined with advanced text recognition it might even be superior to regular prints, as the document could be updated on the fly.
Talk to some old people, youngster.
I have, and many are quite content with what they'we done in life and really feel that it's a good thing that life eventually ends. There are bound to be exceptions though.