True, to an extent, however if the system asks for an adminstator/root password that's sorta like a sign that says "Magic lives here, tread carefully" It's not going to stop users from doing stupid things, but it will at least let them be aware that what they are doing may be stupid or at least potentialy dangerous. User education from geek friends can substantialy reinforce this. So, let's enumerate the ways in which Linux handles this better
Linux/Unix software is designed to be run as an unprivliged user
Most "user" Linux distros encourage/force the creation of at least one non root user
The install programs on those same distros explain why a non-root user is desireable
The most important of these points is the first one, that the software is designed to work in a non-privleged environment. This is not a jab at Windows but rather at Windows software and Windows culture. Yes, it is posible to secure down a windows computer, however it's much easier to secure a Linux computer and retain functionality. Remeber that Unix has had multi-user functionality for over 30 years, and GNU has been re-implementing Unix for 20 years. The Linux kernel is 10 years old, Maybe when Windows has been Multi-User for 20 years or 30 years there will be less software that requires admin privleges.
Hmm, well, let me see, I'm an avid reader (about 50 books per year) my pda cost me about $200 and lasts me about a year (ok I'm abusive to it) I make sure to keep buying PDAs that use the same memory. Now, between the baen free library, the varios baen cds, and baen webscriptions I've read more books thanks to having my PDA, and as a side effect, I have a place to keep my checkbook, (good thing) keep my schedule, and track people I know. and it tells me when I'm suposed to do things. Between savings on books and savings on overdraft charges, the PDA pays for itself in about 3 months.
What skill?./configure && make && sudo make install that's pretty damned brainless after 6 months exposed to a command line, and can be monkeyed out in even less time. You don't need to understand any of the source underneath to re-compile and check if the binaries match.
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I think what everyone is overlooking is that Kodak makes very LOW end snapshot cameras. If Nikon or Cannon were to make this anouncement then there would be something to think about. Kodak has simply decided that it's more profitable to make digital and disposable snapshot cameras than film snapshot cameras.
not realy, the earth is always on the same vector to the same spot on the moon, so it's very easy for them. if they can see the arabian pennesula, it makes it even easier.
Sure it is. On the money the licence is stated in quite simple terms, This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private. Because the licence is simple, it can be printed on such a small peice of paper.
Was just using another example, the American president wasn't mentioned, however he's another example of how the election laws can lead to someone who the people don't nececarily want as the head of state/head of the government
!. I am very conservitive 2. I am not Canadian. (American actualy)
Ok, it didn't sound at all from that post like he was saying the pres was unelected, He was explaining why the pres WAS elected, and how. It's not so teribly different than the Electoral College that elected Bush despite him losing the popular vote. Although it woud be more like if Bush decided he didn't want to play anymore before he got a chance to take office. Which since the electoral college is made up of humans would have fucked everything to hell and back, because are they suposed to vote for the party their state voted for or for the person who got the next most popular votes, and it'd just be a big mess.
And in my mind you are an idiot, I consider anyone who enters my home to have already forfieted their life, and the law in my state, Kansas, agrees with me. On the other hand, I do need to make sure I cause a fatality, otherwize the SOB can use me. I have neither the time, nor the incilatoin to wonder if that person means me harm, I simply must act to defend myself. I'll do so with whatever I have at hand, if I have a gun, I'll use a gun, if I have a knife, I'll pith the fucker, if I have my bare hands I'll break his neck, each of those increases the risk to me from the gun though.
no, I wouldn't realy. I've gone both ways, and truthfully I've found the learning curve to be much steeper going back to windows, or going to Mac than coming from. Also, take a look at the number of file types XMMS handles and the number iTunes handles. Also one of the recent patches to iTunes messes up it's ability to advance in a playlist. I have neither the resources nor the time to do a full on study, and therefore all I can offer is anecdotal evidence, but I've noticed that Linux is NOT hard to learn from a user perspective. In fact it passed the coveted "Mom" test with flying colors. For months my mother would sit herself down at my desk, with my settings, that are admitedly non-standard, and played freecell. That's called successfull user interaction. Especialy since all she ever did on her windows PC was play Freecell. If she wanted on the internet, someone had to put her on the internet, on either computer. The instructions for getting on the net on the Linux box (we had dialup) were very very simple, click once on the green button. So, no I haven't done studies, I'm simply speaking from personal experiance. Have you tried going exclusively to Linux then back to windows? If not, then you can't realy tell me the differences in productivity, or aggrivation.
Bullshit, MS has a very crappy interface, I'd take most of the Linux interfaces over it. Gnome is realy a much more powerfull interface. KDE isn't half bad either, as much as it pains me to admit it. Both have things you have to get used to, however once you have it's harder to go back to MS than it was to leave. Now, on the sound player, let's put iTunes up against XMMS mpg123 is great for what it does, but it's not realy a user level program. Admitedly they blatantly stole the interface from nullsoft, then created a usable, extensable internal for it. Instead of being limited in the types of files you can play, you just download a plugin. Don't like the look, well there are thousands of skins available.
On to your third point, no, the marketoids don't want phones designed to last for decades, with simple, powerfull and consistent interfaces. It's called planned obsolescence.
Don't just spew the crap about windows and Mac Being the end all be all of interfaces witout actualy studying. You're making the same assumptiosn and mistakes that most people do when comparing. You never check how going from open software to closed affects productivity, and you never check how total newbs adapt.
Ok, I'm going to feed the trolls and take your bait, Yes I feel pornography is a good thing. It's a very beautiful expression of humanity. In pornographic art you see the entire range of the human experiance, even what I consider to be "bad" pornography, which incidently, I could consider very poorly done pornography to be "good". by good or bad, I speak of the willingness of the models, not of the quality or content of the picture. I consider "Bad" porn to be the most utterly reprehensable of acts, and do not condone it on artistic, aestetic, or moral grounds, however "good" porn, so long as the audiance can understand it, is a VERY powerfull medium. Art is the act of communicating emotion to another person, and quite frankly I can't think of a more powerfull form of art than pornography. You're more than welcome to dislike the content of those emotions, however other people do want to experiance those emotions.
While I agree with you on general pricipals, I do think that pornography should be clearly labeled, First, it makes it easier for a parent to say "Hmm, well vannila porn is ok, and gay porn, well if my kids realy are intersted in it, but no bondage, they can't understand that the man/woman getting tied down and/or whipped likes being tied down and whipped." conversly it makes it easier for me to find pictures of sadomasochism and bondage.
On the flip side, once it's clearly labeled, it becomes the parent's responcibility to restrict the pornography if they so desire. This allows for far more fine grained control than currently exists. For example I know there are some 28 year old "adults" I wouldn't trust to look at bondage porn, and there are some 17 year old "kids" I would.
A government supported artist is an incompetent whore.
Art is suposed to reach us, if nobody wants to look at it, or in the case of games play them, then it's bad art, no matter how artistic the thought behind it. The purpose of any art is to please the artist and please the partron. As long as the games please the artist, either artisicaly, or financialy, and they please the patron, and they convey an emotional state, why worry overmuch about how third parties view them.
Yes, but how is this more usefull than an online degree in the feild of computers where your ability to follow a spec as fast as fucking posible, and adapt to a constantly changing environment mean more than your ability to deal with people on a personal level? Or even when you are dealing with others on a personal level the main point is to distill down their requirements into a useable spec in as little time as posible. This is exactly why managers instead of HR should be making the staffing decisions. Most HR people I've met can't find their ass with both hands, a map, a compas, a sextant, and a fucking GPS. This is why business has crap floating through it. ESPECIALY govermnet contractors. Because the management can't hire the people who can get the fucking job done, they have to have human resources as a god damned flapper keeping them from getting the people who can get the job done, and then move on to the next job.
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I've always thought it was People for the Eating of Tasty Animals, but I guess that works to.
For purposes of the US pattent office it does count as prior art, Just like Heinlein having water beds in Stranger in a Strange Land.
- Linux/Unix software is designed to be run as an unprivliged user
- Most "user" Linux distros encourage/force the creation of at least one non root user
- The install programs on those same distros explain why a non-root user is desireable
The most important of these points is the first one, that the software is designed to work in a non-privleged environment. This is not a jab at Windows but rather at Windows software and Windows culture. Yes, it is posible to secure down a windows computer, however it's much easier to secure a Linux computer and retain functionality. Remeber that Unix has had multi-user functionality for over 30 years, and GNU has been re-implementing Unix for 20 years. The Linux kernel is 10 years old, Maybe when Windows has been Multi-User for 20 years or 30 years there will be less software that requires admin privleges.Hmm, well, let me see, I'm an avid reader (about 50 books per year) my pda cost me about $200 and lasts me about a year (ok I'm abusive to it) I make sure to keep buying PDAs that use the same memory. Now, between the baen free library, the varios baen cds, and baen webscriptions I've read more books thanks to having my PDA, and as a side effect, I have a place to keep my checkbook, (good thing) keep my schedule, and track people I know. and it tells me when I'm suposed to do things. Between savings on books and savings on overdraft charges, the PDA pays for itself in about 3 months.
What skill? ./configure && make && sudo make install that's pretty damned brainless after 6 months exposed to a command line, and can be monkeyed out in even less time. You don't need to understand any of the source underneath to re-compile and check if the binaries match.
or chop up 5 every 6 months.
What do you think Kodak film cameras are? We're talking about a company that makes low end cameras elimiating their low end cameras.
I think what everyone is overlooking is that Kodak makes very LOW end snapshot cameras. If Nikon or Cannon were to make this anouncement then there would be something to think about. Kodak has simply decided that it's more profitable to make digital and disposable snapshot cameras than film snapshot cameras.
not realy, the earth is always on the same vector to the same spot on the moon, so it's very easy for them. if they can see the arabian pennesula, it makes it even easier.
Sure it is. On the money the licence is stated in quite simple terms, This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private. Because the licence is simple, it can be printed on such a small peice of paper.
Was just using another example, the American president wasn't mentioned, however he's another example of how the election laws can lead to someone who the people don't nececarily want as the head of state/head of the government
Two disclaimers before I get into this
!. I am very conservitive
2. I am not Canadian. (American actualy)
Ok, it didn't sound at all from that post like he was saying the pres was unelected, He was explaining why the pres WAS elected, and how. It's not so teribly different than the Electoral College that elected Bush despite him losing the popular vote. Although it woud be more like if Bush decided he didn't want to play anymore before he got a chance to take office. Which since the electoral college is made up of humans would have fucked everything to hell and back, because are they suposed to vote for the party their state voted for or for the person who got the next most popular votes, and it'd just be a big mess.
But it didn't say not the tool, it said not the owner of the tool, meaning of course that Darl's Dominatrix shouldn't be sent to jail.
Difference, he had one sig fig, a fairly low degree of confidence in his measurement, you claim to have a high degree of confidence in yours.
Um, we don't want a capitalization checker, it'll fuck up code, and the spelling checker is already there, in fact there are two, ispell and aspell
Yep, unlike OK and TX simply being on my property isn't enough to warant deadly force, but being in my domicile is. Falls under credable fear of harm.
And in my mind you are an idiot, I consider anyone who enters my home to have already forfieted their life, and the law in my state, Kansas, agrees with me. On the other hand, I do need to make sure I cause a fatality, otherwize the SOB can use me. I have neither the time, nor the incilatoin to wonder if that person means me harm, I simply must act to defend myself. I'll do so with whatever I have at hand, if I have a gun, I'll use a gun, if I have a knife, I'll pith the fucker, if I have my bare hands I'll break his neck, each of those increases the risk to me from the gun though.
And yet US law defines the Militia as every able bodied male age 16-48.
What a well developed counter argument, and if iTunes hasn't been patched, then why did an update break it on my cousin's Mac?
no, I wouldn't realy. I've gone both ways, and truthfully I've found the learning curve to be much steeper going back to windows, or going to Mac than coming from. Also, take a look at the number of file types XMMS handles and the number iTunes handles. Also one of the recent patches to iTunes messes up it's ability to advance in a playlist. I have neither the resources nor the time to do a full on study, and therefore all I can offer is anecdotal evidence, but I've noticed that Linux is NOT hard to learn from a user perspective. In fact it passed the coveted "Mom" test with flying colors. For months my mother would sit herself down at my desk, with my settings, that are admitedly non-standard, and played freecell. That's called successfull user interaction. Especialy since all she ever did on her windows PC was play Freecell. If she wanted on the internet, someone had to put her on the internet, on either computer. The instructions for getting on the net on the Linux box (we had dialup) were very very simple, click once on the green button. So, no I haven't done studies, I'm simply speaking from personal experiance. Have you tried going exclusively to Linux then back to windows? If not, then you can't realy tell me the differences in productivity, or aggrivation.
Bullshit, MS has a very crappy interface, I'd take most of the Linux interfaces over it. Gnome is realy a much more powerfull interface. KDE isn't half bad either, as much as it pains me to admit it. Both have things you have to get used to, however once you have it's harder to go back to MS than it was to leave. Now, on the sound player, let's put iTunes up against XMMS mpg123 is great for what it does, but it's not realy a user level program. Admitedly they blatantly stole the interface from nullsoft, then created a usable, extensable internal for it. Instead of being limited in the types of files you can play, you just download a plugin. Don't like the look, well there are thousands of skins available.
On to your third point, no, the marketoids don't want phones designed to last for decades, with simple, powerfull and consistent interfaces. It's called planned obsolescence.
Don't just spew the crap about windows and Mac Being the end all be all of interfaces witout actualy studying. You're making the same assumptiosn and mistakes that most people do when comparing. You never check how going from open software to closed affects productivity, and you never check how total newbs adapt.
Ok, I'm going to feed the trolls and take your bait, Yes I feel pornography is a good thing. It's a very beautiful expression of humanity. In pornographic art you see the entire range of the human experiance, even what I consider to be "bad" pornography, which incidently, I could consider very poorly done pornography to be "good". by good or bad, I speak of the willingness of the models, not of the quality or content of the picture. I consider "Bad" porn to be the most utterly reprehensable of acts, and do not condone it on artistic, aestetic, or moral grounds, however "good" porn, so long as the audiance can understand it, is a VERY powerfull medium. Art is the act of communicating emotion to another person, and quite frankly I can't think of a more powerfull form of art than pornography. You're more than welcome to dislike the content of those emotions, however other people do want to experiance those emotions.
While I agree with you on general pricipals, I do think that pornography should be clearly labeled, First, it makes it easier for a parent to say "Hmm, well vannila porn is ok, and gay porn, well if my kids realy are intersted in it, but no bondage, they can't understand that the man/woman getting tied down and/or whipped likes being tied down and whipped." conversly it makes it easier for me to find pictures of sadomasochism and bondage.
On the flip side, once it's clearly labeled, it becomes the parent's responcibility to restrict the pornography if they so desire. This allows for far more fine grained control than currently exists. For example I know there are some 28 year old "adults" I wouldn't trust to look at bondage porn, and there are some 17 year old "kids" I would.
A government supported artist is an incompetent whore.
Art is suposed to reach us, if nobody wants to look at it, or in the case of games play them, then it's bad art, no matter how artistic the thought behind it. The purpose of any art is to please the artist and please the partron. As long as the games please the artist, either artisicaly, or financialy, and they please the patron, and they convey an emotional state, why worry overmuch about how third parties view them.
Yes, but how is this more usefull than an online degree in the feild of computers where your ability to follow a spec as fast as fucking posible, and adapt to a constantly changing environment mean more than your ability to deal with people on a personal level? Or even when you are dealing with others on a personal level the main point is to distill down their requirements into a useable spec in as little time as posible. This is exactly why managers instead of HR should be making the staffing decisions. Most HR people I've met can't find their ass with both hands, a map, a compas, a sextant, and a fucking GPS. This is why business has crap floating through it. ESPECIALY govermnet contractors. Because the management can't hire the people who can get the fucking job done, they have to have human resources as a god damned flapper keeping them from getting the people who can get the job done, and then move on to the next job.