1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue... I am not a crook... One if by Land and Two if by Sea...
Those are memorable if not actually useful.
The Great Depression started in 1929 had a great turn around by Roosevelt by his New Deal.
Not catchy, and I'd be surprised if the general public remembers. Hell I'd be surprised if the average high school graduate including myself even remember the details of this New Deal.
Then what do you suggest gets removed. Something needs to be removed, there's not enough time in the day and money in the schools to teach everything that everyone wants taught.
And if we're slowing school down to the "no kid left behind level" it's even a slower pace then when I was in class.
Everything has merit, otherwise it wouldn't be accepted in the curriculum. Learning how to nail two pieces of wood together and an end result of a box, has merit, but should EVERY student take it mandatory and sacrifice something else for it.
And the argument wasn't so much should Churchy schools stop teaching churchy things, I think it is the parent's misguided belief their child will get a better education at a Churchy school they can't afford when they drop all the courses and AP selection that their public counterparts have.
Assuming you're from the generation that I am from, and we learnt about WWI, WWI, Civil War, American Revolution, the last crash, the great depression, pretty much every president there was, vietnam, korea.....
How much of that did you actually use in voting for Obama over McCain/Palin? Or how much did it help you with the latest econimic crash *grumbles that he should have listened to his gut and put all his money in fixed bonds instead of letting it ride like most retirement investment suggest you do in normal times*
Learning about history is one thing, but remembering it a decade or two later to actually put it on the forefront of your mind during decision making, as opposed to your personality or the latest trend in current events or one of the band wagons. Even Indi, Rebellious, anti-establishment, non-conformity is a band wagon:)
I thought penmanship taught us to endure tedious and repetitious tasks, to prepare us for cramming and studying later in life, later a boring 9-5 office job, and perhaps a tedious marriage.
I also thought tasks like that was to break the child's spirit, teach them to obey authority, and used as an excuse to smack the child's hand with a ruler when he steps out of line, an early indoctrination.
Then what do you suggest be cut? English? Reading? Math? Science?
Maybe the non-basic that some schools can't even afford to offer like computer classes, languages, cooking, metal shop, wood shop, drafting. I'm sure there are more, but my schools were limited as it is.
Schools in poor district don't have the money to offer a decent teaching of English, Reading, Math, and Science to begin with. Personally I don't want to see more tax money spent on frivolous joys of life, but most people would call me a communist.
Yeah.....most people don't stand around talking about history at parties and at bars. Maybe something poignant to the conversation but doubtful. It's like archeology, only those in the field find talking about it in a social setting exciting.
I'd say arts and music is a total waste of time, especially for those who can't draw a straight line even with a ruler and couldn't differentiate tones if his life depended on it (violin for about 4 years, very...clinical, monkey-see, monkey-do). Course I work on a computer and did CAD on a computer in college, so drawing doesn't do me much good.
History? Who cares what happened centuries ago. Some state history is almost as boring as the local PBS shows. If there are relevant lessons, turn them into catchy proverbs and quotes like Sun Tsu and Confucius.
Gym Class? If you want kids to stay fit, run laps, do stretches and warmups, and hit the weight room. Sports is a thing you get in shape FOR, not a means to get in shape.
Religion? Almost as useless as history. At least what happened in history books actually happened according to the winning side.
But you think the US Society will ever drop those first 3 as mandatory or that parochial school will drop the last in the near future?
Pfft, I'm holding our company on windows XP until Windows 8 comes out. Everyone knows, you skip over a few renditions, like from 98 past ME and 2000 to XP:)
China has 1.3 BILLION people in 3.7 million square miles.
US has 300 MILLION people in 3.7 million square miles.
Lets have the US population quadruple and see how well your infrastructure supports further unregulated reproduction after that. Most of which will probably be on welfare. Lets see what happens to your food supply and real estate. You would wish you still had an acre of land for each luckly house.
Reproductive laws was and still is a necessity because plenty of human are greedy selfish bastards and without regulation would consume the world without any foresight. And it's the worst of humanity who will and does ruin it for anyone who isn't a greedy selfish bastard.
I agree, Welfare is a breeding spawn for social pariahs. It's not really their fault, they're only lazy, greedy, or taking advantage of the system. They system isn't doing it's job (and with database and technology these days, there's no excuse not to be more efficient) and all because of the children. If a family on welfare gets another child? Take the children away. That's gross negligence. Don't give them more money. Bleeding heart liberals assume parents aren't selfish bastards and would spend the money on food for the children and not other stuff. And that children are ALWAYS better off with their parents.
One example, I had a mother call into the social service office to get money for CABLE television, because she barely had enough for food and god forbid her child goes without cable. And before people ask, I'm not altruistic or a bleeding heart liberal, I only work there to maintain the IT and make sure they run smoothly and do the most with the equipment they have because it suits my current lifestyle.
This is ridiculous. Any countries' citizens would be defensive when a population of their people want to succeed from the government and they're holding fast to their territory, but internationally, there is criticism for it.
Groups in the US are called home-grown terrorists, those that want to fight the federal government. Those who fight US policy on letting in foreigners. That country between Georgia and Russia wanted to succeed. Irish wanted to succeed. Succession and dissent is not nominal and neither is people supporting the government holding the country together.
Personally I would LOVE to see the north and the south split again. In the last 3 US elections, generally the Northeast and west coast was democratic and the others are republican, with some shifts in allegiance. Too often does Republican's foolish agenda regarding religion and morality pervert our laws, and sometime even unconstitutional, although the bloody Democrats pull the think of the children card too often these days. But Hell no do I want another Bush, Cheney, or Palin in office. I could tolerate McCain since I respected him at the beginning of his campaign.
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And the cold war? That's laughable. Since when has the US ever gave the world the impression they pulled out of the spy business. The CIA is stronger than ever, and between NSA, FBI, DHS, ATF, War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Piracy. The only thing about the cold war that changed was it's focus on the Red Fear which was lies and propaganda to begin with. The US is just grumbling that the spy business has moved into a realm beyond mere special spies and the general population can engage in behavior like cyber"terrorism" from their home and China has a sheer fearful amount of agents in that respect.
WOL often requires a tweak in the bios. I haven't found a way to use group policy to affect the bios and I'm not inclined to go to each computer to change it manually, until I finish all my other work, which isn't likely anytime soon.
You jest but come on, hackers run their computer from command line. Why would a normal person ever run their computer from command line. It's obvious anyone who studies CS has the skills of a hacker and terrorists recruit those with skills like hackers and engineers.
You missed those Sci fi horror thrillers of cold sleep during long travels, and people waking up out of cold sleep unexpectedly to find either something went wrong and most of the people died locked in the cold sleep chambers, or some alien is loose on the ship and is slowly killing everyone off till only you and one other is left alive and you realize, the alien is him or in him or wearing him.
You can't spite greedy people for trying to make money off of something that's public. I mean if they could charge you for oxygen, they would. For sunlight. Greed is in their nature, and they're always do anything they can to increase their cash flow another 0.1%
Sending a message is fine. But the response needs to be proportional. You're going to label the poor misguided girl a sex offender for taking sexy pictures of herself? She can have sex like a grown woman but not give sexy pictures of herself to guys she like?
This is like charging a 10 year old for felony larceny for stealing a candy bar, and getting him thrown in pound my ass prison. That'd teach him a lesson, he'd never steal a candy bar again.
People do dumbass things, and its up to them to live with the normal consequences of their actions. Not make up random outrageous consequences to scare them.
I don't think its odd. I think he's an overzealot puritanical, who is pushing his restrictive opinions into his job and someday will be drummed out for harassing prosecution. Only thing that surprises me is this wasn't done in the bible belt.
I had to purchase a laptop through the school. They didn't give me the laptop till 2 days after I arrived on campus. I sought out the campus computer lab to ease my net addiction till I got my laptop.
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And the catchy proverbs.
1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue...
I am not a crook...
One if by Land and Two if by Sea...
Those are memorable if not actually useful.
The Great Depression started in 1929 had a great turn around by Roosevelt by his New Deal.
Not catchy, and I'd be surprised if the general public remembers. Hell I'd be surprised if the average high school graduate including myself even remember the details of this New Deal.
Then what do you suggest gets removed. Something needs to be removed, there's not enough time in the day and money in the schools to teach everything that everyone wants taught.
And if we're slowing school down to the "no kid left behind level" it's even a slower pace then when I was in class.
Everything has merit, otherwise it wouldn't be accepted in the curriculum. Learning how to nail two pieces of wood together and an end result of a box, has merit, but should EVERY student take it mandatory and sacrifice something else for it.
And the argument wasn't so much should Churchy schools stop teaching churchy things, I think it is the parent's misguided belief their child will get a better education at a Churchy school they can't afford when they drop all the courses and AP selection that their public counterparts have.
Assuming you're from the generation that I am from, and we learnt about WWI, WWI, Civil War, American Revolution, the last crash, the great depression, pretty much every president there was, vietnam, korea.....
How much of that did you actually use in voting for Obama over McCain/Palin? Or how much did it help you with the latest econimic crash *grumbles that he should have listened to his gut and put all his money in fixed bonds instead of letting it ride like most retirement investment suggest you do in normal times*
Learning about history is one thing, but remembering it a decade or two later to actually put it on the forefront of your mind during decision making, as opposed to your personality or the latest trend in current events or one of the band wagons. Even Indi, Rebellious, anti-establishment, non-conformity is a band wagon :)
I thought penmanship taught us to endure tedious and repetitious tasks, to prepare us for cramming and studying later in life, later a boring 9-5 office job, and perhaps a tedious marriage.
I also thought tasks like that was to break the child's spirit, teach them to obey authority, and used as an excuse to smack the child's hand with a ruler when he steps out of line, an early indoctrination.
No I was actually serious.
Then what do you suggest be cut? English? Reading? Math? Science?
Maybe the non-basic that some schools can't even afford to offer like computer classes, languages, cooking, metal shop, wood shop, drafting. I'm sure there are more, but my schools were limited as it is.
Schools in poor district don't have the money to offer a decent teaching of English, Reading, Math, and Science to begin with. Personally I don't want to see more tax money spent on frivolous joys of life, but most people would call me a communist.
Yeah.....most people don't stand around talking about history at parties and at bars. Maybe something poignant to the conversation but doubtful. It's like archeology, only those in the field find talking about it in a social setting exciting.
Who decides what matters?
I'd say arts and music is a total waste of time, especially for those who can't draw a straight line even with a ruler and couldn't differentiate tones if his life depended on it (violin for about 4 years, very...clinical, monkey-see, monkey-do). Course I work on a computer and did CAD on a computer in college, so drawing doesn't do me much good.
History? Who cares what happened centuries ago. Some state history is almost as boring as the local PBS shows. If there are relevant lessons, turn them into catchy proverbs and quotes like Sun Tsu and Confucius.
Gym Class? If you want kids to stay fit, run laps, do stretches and warmups, and hit the weight room. Sports is a thing you get in shape FOR, not a means to get in shape.
Religion? Almost as useless as history. At least what happened in history books actually happened according to the winning side.
But you think the US Society will ever drop those first 3 as mandatory or that parochial school will drop the last in the near future?
Google is arrogant as hell, and just spout the message of do no evil. All major corporations are.
Pfft, I'm holding our company on windows XP until Windows 8 comes out. Everyone knows, you skip over a few renditions, like from 98 past ME and 2000 to XP :)
China's draconian reproductive laws?
China has 1.3 BILLION people in 3.7 million square miles.
US has 300 MILLION people in 3.7 million square miles.
Lets have the US population quadruple and see how well your infrastructure supports further unregulated reproduction after that. Most of which will probably be on welfare. Lets see what happens to your food supply and real estate. You would wish you still had an acre of land for each luckly house.
Reproductive laws was and still is a necessity because plenty of human are greedy selfish bastards and without regulation would consume the world without any foresight. And it's the worst of humanity who will and does ruin it for anyone who isn't a greedy selfish bastard.
I agree, Welfare is a breeding spawn for social pariahs. It's not really their fault, they're only lazy, greedy, or taking advantage of the system. They system isn't doing it's job (and with database and technology these days, there's no excuse not to be more efficient) and all because of the children. If a family on welfare gets another child? Take the children away. That's gross negligence. Don't give them more money. Bleeding heart liberals assume parents aren't selfish bastards and would spend the money on food for the children and not other stuff. And that children are ALWAYS better off with their parents.
One example, I had a mother call into the social service office to get money for CABLE television, because she barely had enough for food and god forbid her child goes without cable. And before people ask, I'm not altruistic or a bleeding heart liberal, I only work there to maintain the IT and make sure they run smoothly and do the most with the equipment they have because it suits my current lifestyle.
This is ridiculous. Any countries' citizens would be defensive when a population of their people want to succeed from the government and they're holding fast to their territory, but internationally, there is criticism for it.
Groups in the US are called home-grown terrorists, those that want to fight the federal government. Those who fight US policy on letting in foreigners. That country between Georgia and Russia wanted to succeed. Irish wanted to succeed. Succession and dissent is not nominal and neither is people supporting the government holding the country together.
Personally I would LOVE to see the north and the south split again. In the last 3 US elections, generally the Northeast and west coast was democratic and the others are republican, with some shifts in allegiance. Too often does Republican's foolish agenda regarding religion and morality pervert our laws, and sometime even unconstitutional, although the bloody Democrats pull the think of the children card too often these days. But Hell no do I want another Bush, Cheney, or Palin in office. I could tolerate McCain since I respected him at the beginning of his campaign.
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And the cold war? That's laughable. Since when has the US ever gave the world the impression they pulled out of the spy business. The CIA is stronger than ever, and between NSA, FBI, DHS, ATF, War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Piracy. The only thing about the cold war that changed was it's focus on the Red Fear which was lies and propaganda to begin with. The US is just grumbling that the spy business has moved into a realm beyond mere special spies and the general population can engage in behavior like cyber"terrorism" from their home and China has a sheer fearful amount of agents in that respect.
Or
"US Military breathes new life into the ARMs race."
WOL often requires a tweak in the bios. I haven't found a way to use group policy to affect the bios and I'm not inclined to go to each computer to change it manually, until I finish all my other work, which isn't likely anytime soon.
So, no, not necessarily easy
You jest but come on, hackers run their computer from command line. Why would a normal person ever run their computer from command line. It's obvious anyone who studies CS has the skills of a hacker and terrorists recruit those with skills like hackers and engineers.
You realize you can have all that with someone who's not your mate. Even a platonic female friend.
And even then, there's friends with benefits to cover that last aspect missing from regular platonic friendship.
That's why we need to keep mandatory Spanish out of the classroom!
I hope that wasn't a reference to Office Space.
You missed those Sci fi horror thrillers of cold sleep during long travels, and people waking up out of cold sleep unexpectedly to find either something went wrong and most of the people died locked in the cold sleep chambers, or some alien is loose on the ship and is slowly killing everyone off till only you and one other is left alive and you realize, the alien is him or in him or wearing him.
Anyways, cold sleep to deal with the travel :)
But perps also get off on seeing trophies of their victims.
It's the same anti-US message that should be spread in the US as well.
You can't spite greedy people for trying to make money off of something that's public. I mean if they could charge you for oxygen, they would. For sunlight. Greed is in their nature, and they're always do anything they can to increase their cash flow another 0.1%
Sending a message is fine. But the response needs to be proportional. You're going to label the poor misguided girl a sex offender for taking sexy pictures of herself? She can have sex like a grown woman but not give sexy pictures of herself to guys she like?
This is like charging a 10 year old for felony larceny for stealing a candy bar, and getting him thrown in pound my ass prison. That'd teach him a lesson, he'd never steal a candy bar again.
People do dumbass things, and its up to them to live with the normal consequences of their actions. Not make up random outrageous consequences to scare them.
I don't think its odd. I think he's an overzealot puritanical, who is pushing his restrictive opinions into his job and someday will be drummed out for harassing prosecution. Only thing that surprises me is this wasn't done in the bible belt.
I had to purchase a laptop through the school. They didn't give me the laptop till 2 days after I arrived on campus. I sought out the campus computer lab to ease my net addiction till I got my laptop.