The reality is that the OVERWHELMING (meaning >99.999999999999999%. This is not a scientific number but I'd wager that it's accurate) ... and...
Of course what was ACTUALLY traded on Napster and friends? Britney Spears, Backdoor Boys, etc. The usual pop garbage.
Your comments lead me to believe that you have never, or very rarely, actually used a lot of the P2P utilities out there. Your example is utter drivel with the liquor store, and does in no way address P2P even in the slightest of analogies.
I have used Napster since the early days, and FastTrak based services and I can tell you honestly and surely that there has been a very large and significant number of free downloads (free as in beer) present on each service. Yes, you have to know what you are lookin for - the same as all the other "pop garbage" (which could lead one to believe that is what you looked for) but this doesn't change the fact that there is a valid use for P2P - and a use that is very common. You have the same problem on a P2P network as you do on Slashdot, signal to noise. Right now, the P2P mechanism is mostly noise (noise being equated to illegal shares) but there is a significant portion of signal. In my desktop, I don't have a CD-Rom, it's a networked workstation. The only computer that I could rip my mp3's from is my laptop, and I do on occasion but I find it's a lot simpler to just download th songs I like. Most people download songs they like, support and will purchase or have purchased the CD, making it a legitimate download.
Before you come up with bullshit ass-figures of %99.99.. and your famed collection of pop garbage why don't you try utilizing the service a bit and realize it isn't just a big web of theft.
The biggest problem with most fanaticists and their opposition is seldom do facts and reason get used; only word of mouth and half-informed opinions.
She is against online music trading. Well, maybe I don't have a CD-Rom in my desktop computer (which is true, incidently) and I just bought Metallica's Greatest Hits and I want it on mp3 format. That's my damned right. I'm not stealing anything by copying it via P2P.
That is what consistently fails. They don't even address how many downloads are actually legitimate downloads. I am on morpheus constantly and I'd say probably about 90% of the songs I download I actually do have the CD for (at least the jewel case, sometimes the CDs get destroyed or lost).
They want to protect their monopoly, but you stay in business by evolving. Not by attempting to crush evolution. Evolution is larger than any corporation.
Could be.. but that is a Intro to CS excercise having bugs like that.
By my second year we were having to interpret semi-obfuscated code to follow logic through recursion and other things, and identify any unpredictable behavior caused thereof.
Maybe his school just sucks...
I hear that same sentiment a lot, and quite frankly I think it's bunk. I have never put myself in a job that I would call mundane or boring.
It's called being selective of the job you want, and not taking the first job you get an offer letter for. Everyone that I know that goes, "Man.. IT sucks! Coding sucks!" took a job too quickly. Any developer who has been in the field for more than 2 years can be selective, and take a job that is fun.
If you are burned out, I would say it is definitely a "bad decision that you have to live with" because it was your decision to take that job. You're 28, so you have probably been in the field for a while. Even the way the economy is going, I managed to find a great contract (I prefer consultancy, get to work on a new project every 6 months is even better) at a great environment, with great people. My previous contract was quite similar, but a bit absurd.
My advice to anyone who claims burnout without being in the field: Go work on an open source project and write real code. Not silly book examples, not fixing stupid bugs (And I'm sorry, if you are a senior an getting off-by-one bugs then you should either pay more attention or should choose a career and make other developers lives easier).
IIRC, Howard Stern had a system for it for his TV show intro long before the matrix. Not the same thing, but similar.
I love geeks.. can't get into any discussion without it erupting into a flame war about lack of innovation and prior-art debates.
Thanks for the supportive response - I think if most people realized how similar cross platform development design is we'd see more cross platform applications. I think the biggest thing that is holding the open source movement from being on the desktop is the lack of cross platform applications. If there were a substantial amount of open source applications available on Windows as well as Linux we'd get a lot more valuable exposure.
Cross platform code is easy. All your arguments are drivel. Build an installer in QT, compiles on Win, *NIX - and problems with networking? wtf!?.. I'm not even going to go into why this isn't an issue, because it would be lost on you since you even put it up there. (And yes, i have written networking code on win and *nix)
I'm not saying convert existing applications. I'm talking purely about the waste of throwing money into Windows-only applications. If you just hire good developers that already know OpenGL (which most graphics developers know anyway) and the core development team can learn SDL very easily (What training costs.. programmers should be able to read the specs and start developing with an API or they aren't worth their weight in bile).
Funny how Q3 uses OpenGL and has no problems.. And yep, there is a point to porting when done right because it doesn't take much more effort when designed correctly.
... we have SDL. we have OpenGL. I fail to understand the logic that game companies harbor to not write cross-platform games. I've done some development with SDL and it's a really good toolkit. Sure, it needs some more work but everything does. OpenGL is awesome, and it's not controlled by one proprietary source.
Taking some extra time to port to linux and ship it on the same CD as the windows version doesn't seem like a bad idea. His talks about Wine are fine and all, and I can understand that.. but I really dislike his dismissal of whether or not it is native. AFAIK Wine still requires Windows. That is bullshit. I want a game to run on Linux. Linux. Not windows, not wine. Wine is Not an Emulator, Right?
It doesn't seem to take much to build a game using existing cross-platforms toolkits that rival Direct3d. OpenAL seems to be the largest gap to bridge.. but, this is a pointless rant so I'll end it.
I did read the site. Why do you think I was talking about the Matrix display. It is a piece of art that is fed through real-time data.
Of course, if you actually READ my post you would have gathered that.
I'm just people care that you think it's a bad idea, too. Maybe you should go spend your efforts lobbying congress instead of posting stupid comments on slashdot?
I have to say, I am severely disappointed that they don't have a Matrix-style display. To have a realistic matrix display that contains real information about network data would just rock. Warm and fuzzy all over.
I can understand a different calander system, but please don't tell me you buy into that crock that changing an arbitrary label given to structure systems will lead to world peace.
Course, if you do believe that I'll gladly sell you a pencil that will take care of all of your problems and let you obtain a perfect state of zen. Say hi to Xenu for me, too.
...and it would be very wrong to just write off the lives of those who are already in prison.
Granted, I support the get-the-ganstas-off-the-streets movement, because that's giving kids a chance to actually make something of their lives. I will avidly oppose a prison-education system until their is a method for a free education (at least to an associates level) for citizens.
You hit it straight on the head - I wish I had mod points because you would definitely go up there. I was about to post in response to that guy saying mostly the same things you said, except much less well-spoken.
Programmers are people, people make mistakes. Users are people, people make mistakes. Most often I've found problems arising from stable software coming from people using the software in a way it shouldn't be used.Using a full disk and complaining because it saved a mangled version of your original is just assinine. You are saving OVER a file. It is just extra code and bloat to ensure that your drive still has enough space every time you do a file save operation. I could understand being upset if he was doing a Save As operation.. but get real, it's his fault - not the software.
This mid-afternoon rant session has been brought to you by a slow day of engineering as my current project nears delivery.
What do you know about prisoners? How many do you talk to regularly? I'll tell you right now that many of them wouldn't be where they are if it weren't for the fact that they came from dirt poor families and lived in places that are as dangerous as some 3rd-world countries. You learn a whole different view of life when your own life is constantly in danger.
Probably a lot more than one would think, or realize. More than I would really want to. Out of all the people I know that are convicts I'd say less than 10% of them had the desire to get their life back - and most of them have accomplished it without free education. The one that I know that hasn't is not mentally capable (not sure what happpened, he won't talk about it but brain damage cause during his prison stay)
I'm not talking about kids either, and in the original thread it was about prisoners - not just children prisoners. I fully advocate a vocational education system for juvenile prisoners. Most 25 year old 3rd time offenders arent going to give a rats ass if he knows HTML or not.
If, people who are dirt poor had a good chance to go to college without committing a felony to get there - this discussion becomes moot. That is why I am for free-education, and against prison-based free-education. Worry about upstanding or at least non-felon citizens first.
I can tell you right now why we shouldn't spend money on educating in prison.
Because a lot of people who deserve and desire to go to higher education can't. Lets spend money getting those people into college before getting bubba and his girlfriend into Web Design 101.
And yes, I am bitter because this hits very close to home. Student aid, loans, scholarships are bunk. If a prison gets free education, I'll be rioting if I have to pay a tuition check. Even though I'm out of college now, my girlfriend is getting ready to enroll -- she makes just above minimum wage working with the handicapped because she loves her job. She deserves to go to school, which is something she desperately wants to do, and can't because she doesn't have the means.
Most prisoners already have a career. Hours are great, benefits suck though.
Serial number on the bottom works. Mine was the last revision before they changed the design of them, which fixed a lot of the problems. The original problem was heat dissipation (if you had it sitting on something that didn't absorb heat) -- a friend has to have his propped at an angle because the fan is old and giving out - without good supportive ventilation his freezes after a few minutes... but his is one of the first run models.
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The reality is that the OVERWHELMING (meaning >99.999999999999999%. This is not a scientific number but I'd wager that it's accurate) ...
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Of course what was ACTUALLY traded on Napster and friends? Britney Spears, Backdoor Boys, etc. The usual pop garbage.
Your comments lead me to believe that you have never, or very rarely, actually used a lot of the P2P utilities out there. Your example is utter drivel with the liquor store, and does in no way address P2P even in the slightest of analogies.
I have used Napster since the early days, and FastTrak based services and I can tell you honestly and surely that there has been a very large and significant number of free downloads (free as in beer) present on each service. Yes, you have to know what you are lookin for - the same as all the other "pop garbage" (which could lead one to believe that is what you looked for) but this doesn't change the fact that there is a valid use for P2P - and a use that is very common. You have the same problem on a P2P network as you do on Slashdot, signal to noise. Right now, the P2P mechanism is mostly noise (noise being equated to illegal shares) but there is a significant portion of signal. In my desktop, I don't have a CD-Rom, it's a networked workstation. The only computer that I could rip my mp3's from is my laptop, and I do on occasion but I find it's a lot simpler to just download th songs I like. Most people download songs they like, support and will purchase or have purchased the CD, making it a legitimate download.
Before you come up with bullshit ass-figures of %99.99.. and your famed collection of pop garbage why don't you try utilizing the service a bit and realize it isn't just a big web of theft.
The biggest problem with most fanaticists and their opposition is seldom do facts and reason get used; only word of mouth and half-informed opinions.
She's a ditz.
She is against online music trading. Well, maybe I don't have a CD-Rom in my desktop computer (which is true, incidently) and I just bought Metallica's Greatest Hits and I want it on mp3 format. That's my damned right. I'm not stealing anything by copying it via P2P.
That is what consistently fails. They don't even address how many downloads are actually legitimate downloads. I am on morpheus constantly and I'd say probably about 90% of the songs I download I actually do have the CD for (at least the jewel case, sometimes the CDs get destroyed or lost).
They want to protect their monopoly, but you stay in business by evolving. Not by attempting to crush evolution. Evolution is larger than any corporation.
Could be.. but that is a Intro to CS excercise having bugs like that.
By my second year we were having to interpret semi-obfuscated code to follow logic through recursion and other things, and identify any unpredictable behavior caused thereof.
Maybe his school just sucks...
Too bad that wasn't an option on the last poll for super powers :)
:)
I can take apart hardware, and have it functioning with LESS parts!
You know, you may have a market in aerospace engineering reducing weight in aircraft.
Definitely agreed. The bottom line is you have to want to be better. Complacency gets you exactly what you deserve.
I have no sympathy for people who hate their jobs. Everything is a choice.
It's called being selective of the job you want, and not taking the first job you get an offer letter for. Everyone that I know that goes, "Man.. IT sucks! Coding sucks!" took a job too quickly. Any developer who has been in the field for more than 2 years can be selective, and take a job that is fun.
If you are burned out, I would say it is definitely a "bad decision that you have to live with" because it was your decision to take that job. You're 28, so you have probably been in the field for a while. Even the way the economy is going, I managed to find a great contract (I prefer consultancy, get to work on a new project every 6 months is even better) at a great environment, with great people. My previous contract was quite similar, but a bit absurd.
My advice to anyone who claims burnout without being in the field: Go work on an open source project and write real code. Not silly book examples, not fixing stupid bugs (And I'm sorry, if you are a senior an getting off-by-one bugs then you should either pay more attention or should choose a career and make other developers lives easier).
After Ricochet shut down, I had no reason to stay in the bay area. At least now there may be one redeeming quality in the valley.
IIRC, Howard Stern had a system for it for his TV show intro long before the matrix. Not the same thing, but similar.
I love geeks.. can't get into any discussion without it erupting into a flame war about lack of innovation and prior-art debates.
Thanks for the supportive response - I think if most people realized how similar cross platform development design is we'd see more cross platform applications. I think the biggest thing that is holding the open source movement from being on the desktop is the lack of cross platform applications. If there were a substantial amount of open source applications available on Windows as well as Linux we'd get a lot more valuable exposure.
Cross platform code is easy. All your arguments are drivel. Build an installer in QT, compiles on Win, *NIX - and problems with networking? wtf!? .. I'm not even going to go into why this isn't an issue, because it would be lost on you since you even put it up there. (And yes, i have written networking code on win and *nix)
I'm not saying convert existing applications. I'm talking purely about the waste of throwing money into Windows-only applications. If you just hire good developers that already know OpenGL (which most graphics developers know anyway) and the core development team can learn SDL very easily (What training costs.. programmers should be able to read the specs and start developing with an API or they aren't worth their weight in bile).
Funny how Q3 uses OpenGL and has no problems.. And yep, there is a point to porting when done right because it doesn't take much more effort when designed correctly.
... we have SDL. we have OpenGL. I fail to understand the logic that game companies harbor to not write cross-platform games. I've done some development with SDL and it's a really good toolkit. Sure, it needs some more work but everything does. OpenGL is awesome, and it's not controlled by one proprietary source.
Taking some extra time to port to linux and ship it on the same CD as the windows version doesn't seem like a bad idea. His talks about Wine are fine and all, and I can understand that.. but I really dislike his dismissal of whether or not it is native. AFAIK Wine still requires Windows. That is bullshit. I want a game to run on Linux. Linux. Not windows, not wine. Wine is Not an Emulator, Right?
It doesn't seem to take much to build a game using existing cross-platforms toolkits that rival Direct3d. OpenAL seems to be the largest gap to bridge.. but, this is a pointless rant so I'll end it.
Of course, if you actually READ my post you would have gathered that.
I'm just people care that you think it's a bad idea, too. Maybe you should go spend your efforts lobbying congress instead of posting stupid comments on slashdot?
My point was, if I was working on a project it would be the first display. And, I really have enough projects I'm working on thanks.
I have to say, I am severely disappointed that they don't have a Matrix-style display. To have a realistic matrix display that contains real information about network data would just rock. Warm and fuzzy all over.
Definitely agreed. Gotta love clueless zealots.
P.S. Love your sig... cracked me up.
Course, if you do believe that I'll gladly sell you a pencil that will take care of all of your problems and let you obtain a perfect state of zen. Say hi to Xenu for me, too.
And if we still have a student loan program in place and are edjucating in the prisons than our system is totally fucked.
...and it would be very wrong to just write off the lives of those who are already in prison.
Granted, I support the get-the-ganstas-off-the-streets movement, because that's giving kids a chance to actually make something of their lives. I will avidly oppose a prison-education system until their is a method for a free education (at least to an associates level) for citizens.
There are no errors, only segfaults.
You hit it straight on the head - I wish I had mod points because you would definitely go up there. I was about to post in response to that guy saying mostly the same things you said, except much less well-spoken.
Programmers are people, people make mistakes. Users are people, people make mistakes. Most often I've found problems arising from stable software coming from people using the software in a way it shouldn't be used.Using a full disk and complaining because it saved a mangled version of your original is just assinine. You are saving OVER a file. It is just extra code and bloat to ensure that your drive still has enough space every time you do a file save operation. I could understand being upset if he was doing a Save As operation.. but get real, it's his fault - not the software.
This mid-afternoon rant session has been brought to you by a slow day of engineering as my current project nears delivery.
Probably a lot more than one would think, or realize. More than I would really want to. Out of all the people I know that are convicts I'd say less than 10% of them had the desire to get their life back - and most of them have accomplished it without free education. The one that I know that hasn't is not mentally capable (not sure what happpened, he won't talk about it but brain damage cause during his prison stay)
I'm not talking about kids either, and in the original thread it was about prisoners - not just children prisoners. I fully advocate a vocational education system for juvenile prisoners. Most 25 year old 3rd time offenders arent going to give a rats ass if he knows HTML or not.
If, people who are dirt poor had a good chance to go to college without committing a felony to get there - this discussion becomes moot. That is why I am for free-education, and against prison-based free-education. Worry about upstanding or at least non-felon citizens first.
I can tell you right now why we shouldn't spend money on educating in prison.
Because a lot of people who deserve and desire to go to higher education can't. Lets spend money getting those people into college before getting bubba and his girlfriend into Web Design 101.
And yes, I am bitter because this hits very close to home. Student aid, loans, scholarships are bunk. If a prison gets free education, I'll be rioting if I have to pay a tuition check. Even though I'm out of college now, my girlfriend is getting ready to enroll -- she makes just above minimum wage working with the handicapped because she loves her job. She deserves to go to school, which is something she desperately wants to do, and can't because she doesn't have the means.
Most prisoners already have a career. Hours are great, benefits suck though.
Serial number on the bottom works. Mine was the last revision before they changed the design of them, which fixed a lot of the problems. The original problem was heat dissipation (if you had it sitting on something that didn't absorb heat) -- a friend has to have his propped at an angle because the fan is old and giving out - without good supportive ventilation his freezes after a few minutes... but his is one of the first run models.