Not when it comes to GUI development. X crashes often and sometimes nothing will get you back short of telneting from remote box. Basically, X is terrible, completely obsolete ( how many Linux users run X over network ?? 0.05 % perhaps )
"From the perspective of a C++ programmer, GTK's C binding is quite evil, but the problem is precisely that it IS C. " ... and that is the problem. C++ is just about perfect fit when it comes to programming GUI apps. I do not understand logic behind decision to create GUI toolkit in C, especially at a time when even GNU C++ compilers are catching up with the C++ standard. Anyone can point anything that would make C better suited for GUI work than C++ ?
oh yeah.... I wish GTK API was at least as stable as WIN 32... One thing MS managed to keep is binary compability between changes. Linux is a mess compared to Win. You never know if well behaved program written on RH 5.2 will run on SUSE or even RH 6.0 ( not to mention Slackware ) This is horrible and very painfull for someone who develops for Linux...
"and it's led to a big boom of GUI programs for Linux. "
Mostly frontends to "whois" etc...
By the way, you shouldn't compare Win32 API to Xlib - those are on completely different levels. It is more like Win32 API = GTK... And I agree with previous poster - GTK is ugly and simply not pleasant to program in or use ( hint ; try QT and you will see the truth..)
Unix is terrible.. the problem is that there is nothing really outhere to replace this.. So we are stuck:-)
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What is wrong with KDE this time ? QT has been oficially declared free enough so could you kindly explain what's keeping you now from using it ?
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What the fuck do you know ? He is perfectly right... I used to live on the other side of the cold war and I am teling you Reagan won this war - clear and simple.
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Your flamebait is not very interesting. Next time you might want to try harder.
You are missing the point. If you were running around hungry and under constant threat that someone might kill you, internet conectivity would be probably somewhere down on your list of problems.
Hey dude in US there are bilions of dollars being spent on welfare and related things. Welfare is the problem. It is clear that you have no clue what is going on in this country. Beside, european "values" had to be saved twice by, guess by who..
You keep bitching about VC but maybe the problem is on your side. It seems like there are thousands of people who somehow manage to develop quite powerful apps using this enviroment. Think about that...
I agree but seems like there are still magazines and actuall user base for Amiga in Europe. I don't know what are they running as even A4000 at this time is so obsolete it is hard to imagine anybody using that kind of system ( especially when much more powerfull PCs are so cheap )
Visual Slick Edit does that. It even looks like MS Developer Studio. Very cool product ( well, the fact that they used Motif is not so cool but the rest is very nice )
Things get worse and worse every day. Pretty soon most communication between people/companies will be conducted thru lawyers. And those suckers will make sure that their profession will be involved in every aspect of human life. What really worries me is that people who seem to sit on the jury are often quite dumb. I mean, when you hear those lawyers making arguments... come one, you need to be stupid or paid to buy this stuff...
I am saying that it is Saturday morning and you are definately trying to piss me off. But that's OK - it is your right, specially on a day when I don't feel up to your level of irony...
Entire USPS ( US MAIL ) is running on Lotus CC:mail. I don't know what will they choose as a replacement but still, it is huge user base for company like Lotus.
I do not see anything absurd in my original question. It is one thing to have choice of different word processing software and another to have 10 notepad clones on your system.
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"thaty our dev environment is much more stable."
Not when it comes to GUI development. X crashes often and sometimes nothing will get you back short of telneting from remote box.
Basically, X is terrible, completely obsolete ( how many Linux users run X over network ?? 0.05 % perhaps )
Isn't that 6 years old game ?
How cool ..., you are one really cool dude.
If you look closely you will notice that IRC standard was designed very badly. Ever been on efnet ??
Oh yeah ... why don't you just use telnet for browsing. It seems like next logical step for guys like you ...
"From the perspective of a C++ programmer, GTK's C binding is quite evil, but the problem is precisely that it IS C. "
... and that is the problem. C++ is just about perfect fit when it comes to programming GUI apps.
I do not understand logic behind decision to create GUI toolkit in C, especially at a time when even GNU C++ compilers are catching up with the C++ standard. Anyone can point anything that would make C better suited for GUI work than C++ ?
oh yeah .... I wish GTK API was at least as stable as WIN 32 ... One thing MS managed to keep is binary compability between changes. Linux is a mess compared to Win. You never know if well behaved program written on RH 5.2 will run on SUSE or even RH 6.0 ( not to mention Slackware )
This is horrible and very painfull for someone who develops for Linux...
"and it's led to a big boom of GUI programs for Linux. "
... ..)
Mostly frontends to "whois" etc...
By the way, you shouldn't compare Win32 API to Xlib - those are on completely different levels. It is more like Win32 API = GTK
And I agree with previous poster - GTK is ugly and simply not pleasant to program in or use ( hint ; try QT and you will see the truth
Unix is terrible .. the problem is that there is nothing really outhere to replace this .. :-)
So we are stuck
What is wrong with KDE this time ? QT has been oficially declared free enough so could you kindly explain what's keeping you now from using it ?
What the fuck do you know ? He is perfectly right ... I used to live on the other side of the cold war and I am teling you Reagan won this war - clear and simple.
Your flamebait is not very interesting. Next time you might want to try harder.
You are missing the point. If you were running around hungry and under constant threat that someone might kill you, internet conectivity would be probably somewhere down on your list of problems.
Hey dude in US there are bilions of dollars being spent on welfare and related things. Welfare is the problem. It is clear that you have no clue what is going on in this country. Beside, european "values" had to be saved twice by, guess by who ..
You keep bitching about VC but maybe the problem is on your side. It seems like there are thousands of people who somehow manage to develop quite powerful apps using this enviroment. Think about that...
I agree but seems like there are still magazines and actuall user base for Amiga in Europe.
I don't know what are they running as even A4000 at this time is so obsolete it is hard to imagine anybody using that kind of system ( especially when much more powerfull PCs are so cheap )
Well, not exactly. For example, if you have pirated copy os MS Word - it doesn't really matter where did it come from. It is still illegal
Yeah, but there is a lot of stuff available either in QT or AVI.
This guy gets kick out of this. It is his second post. Somewhat funny for the first time ...
Visual Slick Edit does that. It even looks like MS Developer Studio. Very cool product ( well, the fact that they used Motif is not so cool but the rest is very nice )
Things get worse and worse every day. Pretty soon most communication between people/companies will be conducted thru lawyers. And those suckers will make sure that their profession will be involved in every aspect of human life. What really worries me is that people who seem to sit on the jury are often quite dumb. I mean, when you hear those lawyers making arguments ... come one, you need to be stupid or paid to buy this stuff ...
I am saying that it is Saturday morning and you are definately trying to piss me off. But that's OK - it is your right, specially on a day when I don't feel up to your level of irony...
Entire USPS ( US MAIL ) is running on Lotus CC:mail. I don't know what will they choose as a replacement but still, it is huge user base for company like Lotus.
I do not see anything absurd in my original question. It is one thing to have choice of different word processing software and another to have 10 notepad clones on your system.
So why then virtually nobody comments their code in GPL world ? It is almost like unwritten rule - no comments !