Ha! Its not that cut and dry. I make sure my kids eat their dinner before they can have dessert. Why? Because if I turned them lose on dessert they wouldn't eat their dinner. If I continued to let them chose what they wanted to eat they would probably become fat and sickly. By teaching them to eat the correct foods first I help them to understand that just because something feels good or tastes good does not mean that it is good for you.
Claiming that restricting what children have access to until they are 18 will help make them well rounded is asinine. We've decided as a society that by the age of 18 that a child has enough reasoning power and hopefully training to determine the difference between right and wrong. For some people that age might be 14 for others it may be 30 depending on their intellect and background, but as a society we've stated 18. Until the age of 18 it is their parent's right and responsibility to determine to what their child is ready to be exposed.
You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
I know this will probably get a -1 country music modifier, but...
Reminds me of an old Tom T. Hall Song...
I love little baby ducks, old pick-up trucks, slow-moving trains, and rain I love little country streams, sleep without dreams, sunday school in may, And hay And I love you too
I love leaves in the wind, pictures of my friends, birds in the world, and squirrels I love coffee in a cup, little fuzzy pups, bourbon in a glass, and grass, And I love you too
I love honest open smiles, kisses from a child, tomatoes on the vine, and onions I love winners when they cry, losers when they try, music when it's good, and life And I love you too
Ok just to make my viewpoint more clear. I'm not trying to say that we are predetermined by nature. However we are not simply products of our environment either. Influencing children's interests is not as easy as giving Timmy dolls or Teri toy guns.
Are people good at things because they like them, or are do people like things they are good at doing? Its not an easy question to answer and I believe that it has a lot to do with childhood development.
I'm sorry, all packets to and from msn.com and all it's subdomains on this network are sent to the black hole. But google will suffice today.
Its easy to find material that supports both sides of the issue, the link I provided earlier was uniuqe in that he was a twin and early on Dr. Money used him to provide evidence to support the Nurture crowd. How did you choose your point of view?
I'd say for starters, he killed himself with pills[right?]...more common method used by females to commit suicide.
Poor example... lots of men kill themselves with pills too.
being a social reject turned into tomboy freak.
He didn't know he was a boy until he was 15.
this is a poor example, secondly, as having early childhood trauma of having your penis burned off would well put a person out of their normal state wahtever that may be
This is a really good point, but you must also consider that he was under frequent physicological treatment by Dr. Money, who at the time was considered a leader in the field.
Because of a botched circumcision he was raised as a girl while his identical twin was raised as a boy. The decision was made at the behest of Dr. John Money, the psychologist to which they were referred. He was not told he was really a boy until he was 15 years old. You should really read about him.
Care to back this up with anything other than rhetoric? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're not talking about gender when you say 'superficial mental tokens of personal identification', but just in case you are... you should really read about David Reimer. I'll even provide an article to get you started.
I went through the same thing you're going through. What finally did it for me was scheduling a specific time during the week where I work on code at home. I take it easy at work that/those day(s) and make sure my family is prepared. During the other parts of the week when I'm at work and not programming, like when I'm in a meeting, I'll put some thought into what I want to accomplish on my programming day(s). Because I have a family I can't use the same time every week, but I always try to schedule at least a couple of hours.
I find that this works for several reasons.
1. If everyone is prepared to leave me along I have a better chance of getting some work done.
2. I know what I'm going to do before I sit down, so I'm not just tooling around, I'm trying to accomplish something.
3. I'm not doing it every night, so I'm not burnt out.
I'm confident that you'll eventually find something that works for you. If you really desire it you'll find a way.
That is my point exactly. There is talent in memorization and studying an opponent as well.
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Ah yes... since some people are not good at, or don't like, preparation / memorization they deem that it is cheating, not fun, and should be somehow removed from the game.
<SARCASM>
I can see that. I don't really like the dribbling part of basketball, maybe it would be more fun if I could just carry the ball across the court.
</SARCASM>
Other than moving pieces to where the should not be, how does one actually cheat at chess?
Sure if I have a billion dollars in the bank can I have information whenever, where ever I want it. However, I am about a billion dollars short and as such have to stick to cheaper things.
Funny... that's almost exactly what the guys at IBM said about home PC's.
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Ha! Its not that cut and dry. I make sure my kids eat their dinner before they can have dessert. Why? Because if I turned them lose on dessert they wouldn't eat their dinner. If I continued to let them chose what they wanted to eat they would probably become fat and sickly. By teaching them to eat the correct foods first I help them to understand that just because something feels good or tastes good does not mean that it is good for you.
Claiming that restricting what children have access to until they are 18 will help make them well rounded is asinine. We've decided as a society that by the age of 18 that a child has enough reasoning power and hopefully training to determine the difference between right and wrong. For some people that age might be 14 for others it may be 30 depending on their intellect and background, but as a society we've stated 18. Until the age of 18 it is their parent's right and responsibility to determine to what their child is ready to be exposed.
You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
We have enough youth. How about a fountain of smart?
I hear they can't fly either!
I know this will probably get a -1 country music modifier, but...
Reminds me of an old Tom T. Hall Song...
I love little baby ducks, old pick-up trucks, slow-moving trains, and rain
I love little country streams, sleep without dreams, sunday school in may, And hay
And I love you too
I love leaves in the wind, pictures of my friends, birds in the world, and squirrels
I love coffee in a cup, little fuzzy pups, bourbon in a glass, and grass,
And I love you too
I love honest open smiles, kisses from a child, tomatoes on the vine, and onions
I love winners when they cry, losers when they try, music when it's good, and life
And I love you too
Wow... I've never heard about these maps before. I wish I had some mod points for you.
Down with the genetically engineered pet. I'm going to start selling monkeys.
The auto manufactures don't even make seatbelts.
Here ya go...
Offtopic? It references counting, perception, and psychology... how is it offtopic? If anything it should get the +1 star trek geek modifier.
There are FOUR lights!
Ok just to make my viewpoint more clear. I'm not trying to say that we are predetermined by nature. However we are not simply products of our environment either. Influencing children's interests is not as easy as giving Timmy dolls or Teri toy guns.
Are people good at things because they like them, or are do people like things they are good at doing? Its not an easy question to answer and I believe that it has a lot to do with childhood development.
I'm sorry, all packets to and from msn.com and all it's subdomains on this network are sent to the black hole. But google will suffice today.
Its easy to find material that supports both sides of the issue, the link I provided earlier was uniuqe in that he was a twin and early on Dr. Money used him to provide evidence to support the Nurture crowd. How did you choose your point of view?
I'd say for starters, he killed himself with pills[right?]...more common method used by females to commit suicide.
Poor example... lots of men kill themselves with pills too.
being a social reject turned into tomboy freak.
He didn't know he was a boy until he was 15.
this is a poor example, secondly, as having early childhood trauma of having your penis burned off would well put a person out of their normal state wahtever that may be
This is a really good point, but you must also consider that he was under frequent physicological treatment by Dr. Money, who at the time was considered a leader in the field.
No time to spell check... forgive any errors.
Actually it was a electrocautery needle. So I guess technically it was burnt off.
Have you ever heard of David Reimer?
Because of a botched circumcision he was raised as a girl while his identical twin was raised as a boy. The decision was made at the behest of Dr. John Money, the psychologist to which they were referred. He was not told he was really a boy until he was 15 years old. You should really read about him.
Care to back this up with anything other than rhetoric? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're not talking about gender when you say 'superficial mental tokens of personal identification', but just in case you are... you should really read about David Reimer. I'll even provide an article to get you started.
If people are that easily swayed they have issues they should deal with before picking a career.
I went through the same thing you're going through. What finally did it for me was scheduling a specific time during the week where I work on code at home. I take it easy at work that/those day(s) and make sure my family is prepared. During the other parts of the week when I'm at work and not programming, like when I'm in a meeting, I'll put some thought into what I want to accomplish on my programming day(s). Because I have a family I can't use the same time every week, but I always try to schedule at least a couple of hours.
I find that this works for several reasons.
1. If everyone is prepared to leave me along I have a better chance of getting some work done.
2. I know what I'm going to do before I sit down, so I'm not just tooling around, I'm trying to accomplish something.
3. I'm not doing it every night, so I'm not burnt out.
I'm confident that you'll eventually find something that works for you. If you really desire it you'll find a way.
Duh... it is the court system, nothing has happened.
</its funny laugh>
Thanks for the heads up. I was looking at buying one of those shirts when I read your post. Sigh... I should know better by now.
No no no.. now its:
In Soviet Russia flight attendants beat up you!
When you just use the 'recall from memory' part of your brain, it is not as fun
You mean its not as fun to YOU.
Osama Bin Laden was never a champion for the US.
Like many allies we once had a common enemy.
Even then he viewed the US as infedels to be dealt with later.
That is my point exactly. There is talent in memorization and studying an opponent as well.
Ah yes... since some people are not good at, or don't like, preparation / memorization they deem that it is cheating, not fun, and should be somehow removed from the game.
<SARCASM>
I can see that. I don't really like the dribbling part of basketball, maybe it would be more fun if I could just carry the ball across the court.
</SARCASM>
Other than moving pieces to where the should not be, how does one actually cheat at chess?
Sure if I have a billion dollars in the bank can I have information whenever, where ever I want it. However, I am about a billion dollars short and as such have to stick to cheaper things.
Funny... that's almost exactly what the guys at IBM said about home PC's.
I'm not going to lie to you, it really sucked, but now its just a memory.
Keep in mind that they removed my adenoids, tonsils, part of the soft palette in the back of my throat, and widened my sinus passages.
My poor uvula its only a memory now too.