No. If this were a criminal case, I'd say sure, but it is civil.
For much less than the cost of housing him in prison for 14 years, they could have hired someone to find his assets.
Even then, his ex-wife is just one of many debtors that need to be paid. We have systems for dealing with that and they are out side the prison system.
slightly incorrect...instead of
"If calories in is less than calories burnt, you WILL lose weight."
It should be 'if energy in is less than, energy burnt, you will lose weight.'
Calories are a nice tool, but everyone derives different amount of energy from them because their intestines are able to process the foods differently.
I can't eat anything with milk and if I do, it goes straight through me. It takes about 20 minutes for me to clean myself out. That isn't enough time to get all energy from it. If I have a full meal right before I have some milk, it'll be out my system in 20 minutes too.
The first month I was in an apartment my car was broken into during a thunderstorm. I'm sure everyone thought my car alarm going off was just caused by thunder.
I'm quite sure if this camera is deployed and the criminals actually take it into consideration, your prediction would come to pass....foggy or rainy day crime spikes.
That said, I think that constant surveillance will be the end of our republic.
Its only the end if we can't tolerate different lifestyles and differing viewpoints.
If we can accept their right to do as they please as long as it does not physically harm us, then I think the republic can survive.
How likely is that to happen though? Not very likely. All it takes is a crack down on fringe groups...one at a time...
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not protest;
I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.
Not to sound like I like this sort of thing, but we didn't have privacy in the past. We are just returning to a more village type of mindset.
The only issue with this sort of surveillance is can we over look aspects of society that we don't agree with?
America is testing its core beliefs with this concept and the masses don't even know it. The more surveillance we have the more people are going to see things they don't like.
Heck the news media already brings horrible things straight into our homes even though horrible things like violent crime are on the decrease for the last few decades. They get the masses riled up over it.
I certainly hope we can ignore such things, but my big fear is that someday it'll all be recorded..every second of our lives. Lying won't be possible without hacking the recording...and then businesses will make decisions based on behavior from years ago. Heck I can even see a future law where like credit checks, business won't, supposedly, be able to consider bad behavior from 7 years or more ago....
That would be Miller v. California and is know as the Miller test. For something to be considered obscene, it needs to meet 3 criteria.
1. The average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest.
2. the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law.
3. the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.
and now the Miller Test meets the Internet where my contemporary community standard is compared to San Francisco, Little Rock, New York, Houston, etc....
pretty impossible to meet any contemporary community standard now a days...unless one is aggregating the standard of the entire United States. I'm sure Hawaii will compare nicely to Dallas.
On a side note...there is only one county in Texas that restricts being topless, Brazoria, and it is a semi-recent change (about 4 years ago.) I was always proud of Texas for allowing women to be topless. The only restriction was (is in most of Texas) if someone complained, they had to cover up.
mean while...we get the "ESRB-Experience may change during online play"
That I think is the loop hole that gaming companies want. The gaming company can't create it but I've run into enough players online that want to flaunt AO material.
I think that is great, but most gaming companies still crack down on AO fan material creation. If memory serves there was a AO guild that's stated purpose was to flaunt AO subject matter in WoW. Blizzard shut it down.
Personally I think gaming companies would be better served by allowing players to filter when it comes to online content. Give them the ability to ignore players/alliances. Give them the ability to control who can talk to them.
I believe the last leisure suit larry game came out in multiple ESRB and included an AO version. I don't see why online games can't do that. Just create a restricted area for adults only. It would be interesting in WoW to see how many people paid to transfer their characters to an AO allowed server. Kids would still get in illegally of course, but kids also get alcohol before 21 with the infamous 'hey, mister' while offering a $20 outside liquor stores.
Urea is a common component in a lot of industrial applications, notably cosmetics, soap and animal feed. No need to really source it from the sewer, industrial vats make this stuff every day.
Telling women what exactly "Urea" is in the ingredients of their makeup case is great fun...
"An ingredient in many tooth whitening products."
I knew there was a reason I stayed away from tooth whitening products!
Serious, I'd like to see an article talking about the using through out history for Urea. I know the Romans collected it to whiten their clothes. ick....'hey, look at my new white robe,' 'What's that smell?' 'No, I didn't just wet myself.'
The RIAA is doing civil lawsuits and the requirements for evidence is lower.
That said I think this ruling should apply to all criminal cases. Before I send someone to jail over content on their computer/network, I want police to be sure it was the right guy and not the guy that spoofed a mac address and hacked a wireless network.
I would say a picture of the guy would do. Best would be a picture of the guy showing the illegal material on the computer in the background.;)
add to 'unpopular perps' the term poor.
Defending oneself is always expensive, so it is best to target those that can't afford to fight back well.
For those about to chime in about court appointed attorneys for the poor, they are in most states paid by the case and not the duration. Their incentive is to finish the case as soon as possible and 'plea bargains' for the DA and the court appointed attorneys are their bread and butter.
How about the possibility that highly educated people from whatever field, be it mathematics, English, chemistry, or whatever, are less likely to simply see the question as "save the children from the paedos" and vote to hang the guy.
I guess we need a new survey and take level of college attained into account.
admittedly I was unnerved when I started that quest because it said I was to torture...however nothing happens. You click a button and the prisoner gets zapped. There is no sound effects of him screaming, of him begging you to stop, no blood. In total the only sound effect is the zap sound which might as well have been any spell effect sound from combat....
or are you saying that we should not be killing things in the game because it might hurt them?
I can read about any subject in gruesome detail. I don't see why we should limit the video game market.
I have friends that love to read horror stories (or heck John Norman's Chronicles of Gor) and others that like fluffy bunny anime stories; however I do not see the government stepping in to stop these.
I think the difference is the variety of the market. If there were as many video games as there are books, the focus would be more defused.
About the only ESRB like rating for the book industry outside of genre is Adult or not Adult.
Why we make that distinction when over in the romance section, books as graphic in words as any picture in playboy are being sold, I'll never know.
Wouldn't this be a good idea for all products? The only downside I see is higher prices, but I think the motivation companies have of cutting costs would benefit the world.
Since we evolved, humans have not had to clean up after themselves;
I would humbly suggest it is a skillset we LEARN, and learn it quickly and well.
RS
I agree, but educating the entire world is out of the US budget range.
NASA is currently operating at 1/64 the budget it had during the Apollo days. Space exploration is cheap and many of the technology spin-offs will aid in cleaning up the world. I can't think of an environment that requires recycling being a #1 priority more than space.
We can't make a self-sustaing colony on Antarctica or underwater, so why would you think we can do it on another planet?
We can't build a self sustaining colony on Antarctica because of treaties. Since the 1950s oil companies have been looking at the resources of Antartica. The 1970s brought renewed interest because of the oil embargo. However we have these treaties:
The successful establishment of SCAR and the IGY in Antarctica was due in large part to cooperation between the countries involved, and led directly to the signing of the Antarctic Treaty in 1959, which has administered Antarctic affairs since 1961 when it officially entered into force. The Antarctic Treaty, signed during mounting Cold War tensions, successfully banned all military activity, nuclear testing, and the dumping of radioactive materials on the continent. The 1991 Protocol on Environmental Protection to the Antarctic Treaty, also known as the Madrid Protocol, entered into force in 1998 and serves as an additional mechanism for ensuring the protection of the Antarctic environment. The Madrid Protocol goes further than the original treaty as it designates Antarctica as a natural reserve devoted to peace and science and places a moratorium on mining and drilling for oil for a minimum of 50 years. The Protocol sets forth basic principles and detailed, mandatory rules which apply to all human activities in Antarctica.
So when you say we can't do it, you mean we hand tied ourselves.
better to spend the colossal amount of money on fixing this world.
Lets see...spend peanuts on the space program or
1) spend billions on clean up of a world where we have to rely on the other guy to keep his country clean.
2) spend billions on clean up of a world only to have some other cataclysm happen:
a) asteroid
b) plague
c) world war
I'd rather spend the money on the space program. Not only is it cheaper, but it also fits in with our own nature. Since we evolved, humans have not had to clean up after themselves; however, since the beginning humans have been explorers.
I'd rather play to mankind's strengths and continue exploring.
The film concerns the November 28, 1976 murder of Dallas police officer, Robert W. Wood, during a traffic stop. The Dallas Police Department was unable to make an arrest until they learned of information given by a 16-year-old resident of Vidor, Texas who had told friends that he was responsible for the crime.[2] The juvenile, David Ray Harris, led police to the car driven from the scene of the crime, as well as a.22 caliber revolver he identified as the murder weapon. He subsequently identified 28-year-old Ohio resident Randall Dale Adams as the murderer. Adams had been living in a motel in Dallas with his brother. The film presents a series of interviews about the investigation and reenactments of the shooting, based on the testimony and recollections of Adams, Harris, and various witnesses and detectives. Two attorneys who represented Adams at the trial where he was convicted of capital murder also appear: they suggest that Adams was charged with the crime despite the better evidence against Harris because, as Harris was a juvenile, Adams alone of the two could be sentenced to death under Texas law.
The film's title comes from the prosecutor's comment during his closing argument, paraphrasing Rudyard Kipling's Tommy, that the police are the "thin blue line" separating society from anarchy.
Sex offenders have it too rough in my opinion. Take this article about a bridge in FL. All the sex offenders live there because of all the various zoning restrictions forced them to live there. The article even discusses one woman about to move under the bridge:
and before anyway says we should just kill sex offenders or mutilate their body parts, remember two things
1) there are plenty of innocent people convicted of crimes, example being all the criminals being exonerated by DNA evidence years after they were sentenced. Then consider some people had zero physical evidence used against them and have no hope of such a retesting....my father was convicted on the word of a 3 year old and nothing else.
2) We need to give criminals reasons to keep their victims alive and unharmed. We don't want the concept of "may as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb". If we make their lives too unbearable they are just going to go to extremes after all, what more can be done to them if their lives are already horrible?
personally what I think we need is another America or Australia...some place to exile the criminals. Maybe a Moon is a Harsh Mistress needs to come to pass. Gives the criminal a 2nd chance and satisfies the victims by getting rid of the criminal.
Nah, not 'a taste of armageddon'....more like 'wargames'. 'Do you want to play a game?'
I bet at some point some hacker will create a real zombie bots of real military equipment. Some highschool student will think it is really funny to nuke Las Vegas.;)
PS. nuclear hand grenades also become viable once you realize it'll be a robot arm throwing it.
My goodness...so many people talking about the cost of books being spread out over years vs printing costs every year.
It's almost like y'all haven't been following the budget crises in CA at all...they expect to be a 'penny wise and pound foolish' because they need the pennies now. All ideas that save money now are viable regardless of whether they will cost more next year.
Also it is expected they will make the major changes to things that have large groups behind them (such as schools.) That way if something goes wrong, they can be corrected easily.
sorry...I had those on separate lines, but/. moved them all to one line. An A was worth $10. A B was worth $5. I lost $5 for a C and $10 for a D. A F meant I earned nothing.
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For much less than the cost of housing him in prison for 14 years, they could have hired someone to find his assets.
Even then, his ex-wife is just one of many debtors that need to be paid. We have systems for dealing with that and they are out side the prison system.
slightly incorrect...instead of "If calories in is less than calories burnt, you WILL lose weight." It should be 'if energy in is less than, energy burnt, you will lose weight.' Calories are a nice tool, but everyone derives different amount of energy from them because their intestines are able to process the foods differently. I can't eat anything with milk and if I do, it goes straight through me. It takes about 20 minutes for me to clean myself out. That isn't enough time to get all energy from it. If I have a full meal right before I have some milk, it'll be out my system in 20 minutes too.
"foggy day crime spike ?"
The first month I was in an apartment my car was broken into during a thunderstorm. I'm sure everyone thought my car alarm going off was just caused by thunder.
I'm quite sure if this camera is deployed and the criminals actually take it into consideration, your prediction would come to pass....foggy or rainy day crime spikes.
That said, I think that constant surveillance will be the end of our republic.
Its only the end if we can't tolerate different lifestyles and differing viewpoints. If we can accept their right to do as they please as long as it does not physically harm us, then I think the republic can survive. How likely is that to happen though? Not very likely. All it takes is a crack down on fringe groups...one at a time...
The only issue with this sort of surveillance is can we over look aspects of society that we don't agree with?
America is testing its core beliefs with this concept and the masses don't even know it. The more surveillance we have the more people are going to see things they don't like.
Heck the news media already brings horrible things straight into our homes even though horrible things like violent crime are on the decrease for the last few decades. They get the masses riled up over it.
I certainly hope we can ignore such things, but my big fear is that someday it'll all be recorded..every second of our lives. Lying won't be possible without hacking the recording...and then businesses will make decisions based on behavior from years ago. Heck I can even see a future law where like credit checks, business won't, supposedly, be able to consider bad behavior from 7 years or more ago....
That would be Miller v. California and is know as the Miller test. For something to be considered obscene, it needs to meet 3 criteria.
1. The average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest. 2. the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law. 3. the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.
and now the Miller Test meets the Internet where my contemporary community standard is compared to San Francisco, Little Rock, New York, Houston, etc....
pretty impossible to meet any contemporary community standard now a days...unless one is aggregating the standard of the entire United States. I'm sure Hawaii will compare nicely to Dallas.
On a side note...there is only one county in Texas that restricts being topless, Brazoria, and it is a semi-recent change (about 4 years ago.) I was always proud of Texas for allowing women to be topless. The only restriction was (is in most of Texas) if someone complained, they had to cover up.
mean while...we get the "ESRB-Experience may change during online play"
That I think is the loop hole that gaming companies want. The gaming company can't create it but I've run into enough players online that want to flaunt AO material.
I think that is great, but most gaming companies still crack down on AO fan material creation. If memory serves there was a AO guild that's stated purpose was to flaunt AO subject matter in WoW. Blizzard shut it down.
Personally I think gaming companies would be better served by allowing players to filter when it comes to online content. Give them the ability to ignore players/alliances. Give them the ability to control who can talk to them.
I believe the last leisure suit larry game came out in multiple ESRB and included an AO version. I don't see why online games can't do that. Just create a restricted area for adults only. It would be interesting in WoW to see how many people paid to transfer their characters to an AO allowed server. Kids would still get in illegally of course, but kids also get alcohol before 21 with the infamous 'hey, mister' while offering a $20 outside liquor stores.
Urea is a common component in a lot of industrial applications, notably cosmetics, soap and animal feed. No need to really source it from the sewer, industrial vats make this stuff every day.
Telling women what exactly "Urea" is in the ingredients of their makeup case is great fun...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea
"An ingredient in many tooth whitening products." I knew there was a reason I stayed away from tooth whitening products! Serious, I'd like to see an article talking about the using through out history for Urea. I know the Romans collected it to whiten their clothes. ick....'hey, look at my new white robe,' 'What's that smell?' 'No, I didn't just wet myself.'
Agreed.
The RIAA is doing civil lawsuits and the requirements for evidence is lower.
That said I think this ruling should apply to all criminal cases. Before I send someone to jail over content on their computer/network, I want police to be sure it was the right guy and not the guy that spoofed a mac address and hacked a wireless network.
I would say a picture of the guy would do. Best would be a picture of the guy showing the illegal material on the computer in the background. ;)
What I learned from Paranoia: Success or failure does not matter. Only making sure you are the only person left to tell what happened matters.
add to 'unpopular perps' the term poor. Defending oneself is always expensive, so it is best to target those that can't afford to fight back well. For those about to chime in about court appointed attorneys for the poor, they are in most states paid by the case and not the duration. Their incentive is to finish the case as soon as possible and 'plea bargains' for the DA and the court appointed attorneys are their bread and butter.
How about the possibility that highly educated people from whatever field, be it mathematics, English, chemistry, or whatever, are less likely to simply see the question as "save the children from the paedos" and vote to hang the guy.
I guess we need a new survey and take level of college attained into account.
admittedly I was unnerved when I started that quest because it said I was to torture...however nothing happens. You click a button and the prisoner gets zapped. There is no sound effects of him screaming, of him begging you to stop, no blood. In total the only sound effect is the zap sound which might as well have been any spell effect sound from combat.... or are you saying that we should not be killing things in the game because it might hurt them?
I can read about any subject in gruesome detail. I don't see why we should limit the video game market. I have friends that love to read horror stories (or heck John Norman's Chronicles of Gor) and others that like fluffy bunny anime stories; however I do not see the government stepping in to stop these. I think the difference is the variety of the market. If there were as many video games as there are books, the focus would be more defused. About the only ESRB like rating for the book industry outside of genre is Adult or not Adult. Why we make that distinction when over in the romance section, books as graphic in words as any picture in playboy are being sold, I'll never know.
Wouldn't this be a good idea for all products? The only downside I see is higher prices, but I think the motivation companies have of cutting costs would benefit the world.
Hopefully he didn't buy the account. Though if he did buy it, I could then forgive the KDE in his id. (kidding)
Since we evolved, humans have not had to clean up after themselves;
I would humbly suggest it is a skillset we LEARN, and learn it quickly and well.
RS
I agree, but educating the entire world is out of the US budget range.
NASA is currently operating at 1/64 the budget it had during the Apollo days. Space exploration is cheap and many of the technology spin-offs will aid in cleaning up the world. I can't think of an environment that requires recycling being a #1 priority more than space.
We can't make a self-sustaing colony on Antarctica or underwater, so why would you think we can do it on another planet?
We can't build a self sustaining colony on Antarctica because of treaties. Since the 1950s oil companies have been looking at the resources of Antartica. The 1970s brought renewed interest because of the oil embargo. However we have these treaties:
So when you say we can't do it, you mean we hand tied ourselves.
better to spend the colossal amount of money on fixing this world.
Lets see...spend peanuts on the space program or
1) spend billions on clean up of a world where we have to rely on the other guy to keep his country clean.
2) spend billions on clean up of a world only to have some other cataclysm happen:
a) asteroid
b) plague
c) world war
I'd rather spend the money on the space program. Not only is it cheaper, but it also fits in with our own nature. Since we evolved, humans have not had to clean up after themselves; however, since the beginning humans have been explorers.
I'd rather play to mankind's strengths and continue exploring.
Sex offenders have it too rough in my opinion. Take this article about a bridge in FL. All the sex offenders live there because of all the various zoning restrictions forced them to live there. The article even discusses one woman about to move under the bridge:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/columnists/fred-grimm/story/964528.html
and before anyway says we should just kill sex offenders or mutilate their body parts, remember two things
1) there are plenty of innocent people convicted of crimes, example being all the criminals being exonerated by DNA evidence years after they were sentenced. Then consider some people had zero physical evidence used against them and have no hope of such a retesting....my father was convicted on the word of a 3 year old and nothing else.
2) We need to give criminals reasons to keep their victims alive and unharmed. We don't want the concept of "may as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb". If we make their lives too unbearable they are just going to go to extremes after all, what more can be done to them if their lives are already horrible?
personally what I think we need is another America or Australia...some place to exile the criminals. Maybe a Moon is a Harsh Mistress needs to come to pass. Gives the criminal a 2nd chance and satisfies the victims by getting rid of the criminal.
Nah, not 'a taste of armageddon'....more like 'wargames'. 'Do you want to play a game?' I bet at some point some hacker will create a real zombie bots of real military equipment. Some highschool student will think it is really funny to nuke Las Vegas. ;)
PS. nuclear hand grenades also become viable once you realize it'll be a robot arm throwing it.
My goodness...so many people talking about the cost of books being spread out over years vs printing costs every year. It's almost like y'all haven't been following the budget crises in CA at all...they expect to be a 'penny wise and pound foolish' because they need the pennies now. All ideas that save money now are viable regardless of whether they will cost more next year. Also it is expected they will make the major changes to things that have large groups behind them (such as schools.) That way if something goes wrong, they can be corrected easily.
Time Warner doesn't care about their customers (indifferent Evil)
vs
Comcast is out to get their customers. (Active Evil)
another good way to describe them is....Time Warner is a Thief whereas Comcast is an Assassin.
(I don't don't know who would be the Thief-Acrobat. Which one's stock is fluctuating today?)
sorry...I had those on separate lines, but /. moved them all to one line. An A was worth $10. A B was worth $5. I lost $5 for a C and $10 for a D. A F meant I earned nothing.