Way to be naive as all hell. Obviously, you've never participated in an engineering program at a degree granting institution. Engineering majors are not all that different. Engineering is more about learning how to approach and solve problems than develop a particular skillset. There are many, many, people with engineering degrees that constantly cross field boundaries.
This is probably more for the engineers out there, but To Engineer is Human by Henry Petroski definitely made me consider the engineer's role in society rather than just how to be an engineer.
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The only people who bitch about this sort of thing are the ones who aren't used to open source. Example: Konfabulator people bitching about Apple stealing their new Dashboard concept from Konfabulator. Guess what, this idea has been around for a while (root level widgets that display useful information). Here's a perfect example of the concept.
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I had no doubt that he was using Apple's API to carry out the eye candy even before I read the article. The point is that Desktop Manager really goes beyond being utilitarian and does the job probably just how Apple would do it if they so chose.
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I really have to say that Desktop Manager is amazing. It even has eye candy transforms between desktops (such as the sides of a cube representation of things). And to boot, Rich emailed me back some time ago when I had a question.
The point is that the Foundry guys spend less time in our machine room than the Cisco guys do. Extrapolating from the actions of the Foundry reps, it stands to reason that Cisco is just as observant. They have to be, it's their job to anticipate a customer's desire to move to another platform.
a pretty rare experience to even talk to someone at cisco
Someone's Cisco rep doesn't like them. But seriously, if you're not in constant communication with Cisco, then you don't have a real big deployment. Heck, our Cisco rep comes to our department picnics and foots the bill for happy hour every now and then.
don't listen to the other guy saying cisco will take it personal. First they won't even know
Again, I find that highly unlikely. Let's put it this way, my department is entirely Cisco based. There just so happens to be another department in my organization that has some Foundry ServerIrons for their own use. I was talking with the Foundry guys at CeBit in New York this year and when I made the comment "We're an all Cisco shop." They immediately rebutted with, "No, I know for a fact you guys have some ServerIrons in your machine room." If Cisco's competition knows what kind of hardware we're running, you better believe that every time Cisco sets foot in a customer's machine room, they're taking note of any competitor's equipment that is in there. Use that fact to your advantage. That's all I'll say.
Can I slap an OC-48 card in a PC? Unlikely. OC-192? How about 10GigE? Again, unlikely. For some of us, PCs can't compete with dedicated routing hardware. Even PCs that can handle large amounts of traffic can't switch at wirespeed. The key is programmable ASICs, pure and simple. If it's hitting the CPU too often (which all switching/routing on a PC must do) then we have a problem.
Don't whine about something you could have fixed (and admitted you could). Next time, when you get something of poor quality, bring it back instead of sitting around and saying "Woe is me" with the rest of the complainers.
To all those of you who have yet to go to college or are still in it, let this guy's mistakes be your guide. If you do not work (for a real company, doing real work associated with your desired job placement), you will have EXTREME DIFFICULTY getting a job later on. Really, the only way to avoid the Catch-22 associated with getting your foot in the door is to work during school. School is only a part of your education. Do not be one of the people who thinks it's the only part. You will regret it. Fortunately, I took my own advice, and when I graduate, I will actually be able to honestly say I have 5+ years experience with stuff most small time network admins only dream of touching (Cisco 12000, Cisco 6500, Cisco 6000, etc.).
Now, it's not easy to find the right place to work. You need somewhere that's going to be willing to let you learn AND give you responsibility. I started off the summer before freshman year of high school working for a company doing fairly simple database stuff. That quickly progressed into a demanding database programming and design position from which I was able to gain much experience and client contacts I have used as references. That job morphed into networking, implementing things in very specific ways where there was a lot of on the job learning. I spent a solid four years there doing all of this. By the time I left there, my resume was so long that when I applied for another job, my age was actually questioned due to the wide variety of skills mentioned on my resume. And no, they didn't think I was lying on my resume, as they questioned me about the things on it and hired me.
Moral of the story: Work, work, work. It's just as, if not more, important as your formal school education.
The Weather Channel always has pretty good (and widely appealing) music on. They have a list of what they play on their website. For instance, here's the November 2003 song list.
Norah Jones is one pop artist I actually enjoy listening to. The fact that she's pop is a fluke too, since she's on Blue Note, and manages to get excellent musicians on her albums (i.e. Bill Frisell).
Ability to install a single plugin... on IE. Granted, Terminal Services works well for Windows, and rdesktop covers the Linux client-side of it, but it's hardly a solution for people who don't use Windows.
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Haha, OK. I was debating whether or not that was what you meant. I had a feeling it might be.
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No, no it's not. I don't see any OC boards available for it. It's specs aren't too great either: "96Gbps backplane capacity, 240Gbps max bandwidth , maximum throughput 177Mpps." Compare that with a 1.28 Tbps switching capacity and a 480 Mpps routing capacity for a Foundry MG8. A Cisco 6500 series also has a MUCH higher switching capacity (720 Gbps or so, depending on the SUP). So, in summation, 3Com is clearly behind on things.
To be off topic, if your sig ("Vengeance is fine") is where I think it's from, I believe you have misquoted it. The Scripture, found at Romans 12:19 says, in part, "Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." And that, in fact, is what Indian Larry has tattooed on his neck.
People on slashdot very often compare Oracle to open source offerings (many of which lack ACID). So I don't think it was very off the wall of me to compare Oracle to non-ACID DBs.
Speaking of the CatOS -> IOS transition, that is going as unsmoothly as anyone could possibly conceive. That and I haven't met anyone who actually prefers the IOS interface to the CatOS interface. IOS's approach to switches appears to be such a hack, whereas the CatOS approach just makes sense.
And you, sir, are overpaying. As stated before, the vast majority of people would never use this storage space. Those who would manage to fill this up would take some time to do it, and by the time they approach a large amount of mail, storage prices will have dropped considerably.
Thank you for stating the obvious (that's not supposed to be sarcasm), as apparently the person who replied to me didn't understand the full picture.
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When I was a sophomore, my school was just starting to offer AP Computer Science A (C++) to juniors and seniors. I petitioned and got in the class. Out of roughly forty students only I and one other student got a 5 on the exam. Due to the obvious lack of preparation of most of the kids entering the course, I encouraged my teacher to try to start an intro. class. Surprisingly, he listened, and even listened to my language recommendation of Scheme. That summer he went to a Scheme teacher's workshop type thing geared to starting coures in Scheme. Sure enough, the following fall, a semester course called Introduction to Computer Programming was being taught using Scheme to grades 10 and above. High schools can be decent places to learn coding, if you have faculty that is motivated to teach it. I even managed to start a chapter of the American Computer Science League in my school. That kind of failed since we were all seniors who were far past giving a damn. It was still a good idea though.
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Way to be naive as all hell. Obviously, you've never participated in an engineering program at a degree granting institution. Engineering majors are not all that different. Engineering is more about learning how to approach and solve problems than develop a particular skillset. There are many, many, people with engineering degrees that constantly cross field boundaries.
This is probably more for the engineers out there, but To Engineer is Human by Henry Petroski definitely made me consider the engineer's role in society rather than just how to be an engineer.
The only people who bitch about this sort of thing are the ones who aren't used to open source. Example: Konfabulator people bitching about Apple stealing their new Dashboard concept from Konfabulator. Guess what, this idea has been around for a while (root level widgets that display useful information). Here's a perfect example of the concept.
I had no doubt that he was using Apple's API to carry out the eye candy even before I read the article. The point is that Desktop Manager really goes beyond being utilitarian and does the job probably just how Apple would do it if they so chose.
I really have to say that Desktop Manager is amazing. It even has eye candy transforms between desktops (such as the sides of a cube representation of things). And to boot, Rich emailed me back some time ago when I had a question.
The point is that the Foundry guys spend less time in our machine room than the Cisco guys do. Extrapolating from the actions of the Foundry reps, it stands to reason that Cisco is just as observant. They have to be, it's their job to anticipate a customer's desire to move to another platform.
Someone's Cisco rep doesn't like them. But seriously, if you're not in constant communication with Cisco, then you don't have a real big deployment. Heck, our Cisco rep comes to our department picnics and foots the bill for happy hour every now and then.
don't listen to the other guy saying cisco will take it personal. First they won't even know
Again, I find that highly unlikely. Let's put it this way, my department is entirely Cisco based. There just so happens to be another department in my organization that has some Foundry ServerIrons for their own use. I was talking with the Foundry guys at CeBit in New York this year and when I made the comment "We're an all Cisco shop." They immediately rebutted with, "No, I know for a fact you guys have some ServerIrons in your machine room." If Cisco's competition knows what kind of hardware we're running, you better believe that every time Cisco sets foot in a customer's machine room, they're taking note of any competitor's equipment that is in there. Use that fact to your advantage. That's all I'll say.
Can I slap an OC-48 card in a PC? Unlikely. OC-192? How about 10GigE? Again, unlikely. For some of us, PCs can't compete with dedicated routing hardware. Even PCs that can handle large amounts of traffic can't switch at wirespeed. The key is programmable ASICs, pure and simple. If it's hitting the CPU too often (which all switching/routing on a PC must do) then we have a problem.
Don't whine about something you could have fixed (and admitted you could). Next time, when you get something of poor quality, bring it back instead of sitting around and saying "Woe is me" with the rest of the complainers.
To all those of you who have yet to go to college or are still in it, let this guy's mistakes be your guide. If you do not work (for a real company, doing real work associated with your desired job placement), you will have EXTREME DIFFICULTY getting a job later on. Really, the only way to avoid the Catch-22 associated with getting your foot in the door is to work during school. School is only a part of your education. Do not be one of the people who thinks it's the only part. You will regret it. Fortunately, I took my own advice, and when I graduate, I will actually be able to honestly say I have 5+ years experience with stuff most small time network admins only dream of touching (Cisco 12000, Cisco 6500, Cisco 6000, etc.).
Now, it's not easy to find the right place to work. You need somewhere that's going to be willing to let you learn AND give you responsibility. I started off the summer before freshman year of high school working for a company doing fairly simple database stuff. That quickly progressed into a demanding database programming and design position from which I was able to gain much experience and client contacts I have used as references. That job morphed into networking, implementing things in very specific ways where there was a lot of on the job learning. I spent a solid four years there doing all of this. By the time I left there, my resume was so long that when I applied for another job, my age was actually questioned due to the wide variety of skills mentioned on my resume. And no, they didn't think I was lying on my resume, as they questioned me about the things on it and hired me.
Moral of the story: Work, work, work. It's just as, if not more, important as your formal school education.
Well, I definitely remember F00FC7C8, even if it didn't directly affect me.
The Weather Channel always has pretty good (and widely appealing) music on. They have a list of what they play on their website. For instance, here's the November 2003 song list.
Norah Jones is one pop artist I actually enjoy listening to. The fact that she's pop is a fluke too, since she's on Blue Note, and manages to get excellent musicians on her albums (i.e. Bill Frisell).
Ability to install a single plugin... on IE. Granted, Terminal Services works well for Windows, and rdesktop covers the Linux client-side of it, but it's hardly a solution for people who don't use Windows.
Couldn't agree more.
Haha, OK. I was debating whether or not that was what you meant. I had a feeling it might be.
No, no it's not. I don't see any OC boards available for it. It's specs aren't too great either: "96Gbps backplane capacity, 240Gbps max bandwidth , maximum throughput 177Mpps." Compare that with a 1.28 Tbps switching capacity and a 480 Mpps routing capacity for a Foundry MG8. A Cisco 6500 series also has a MUCH higher switching capacity (720 Gbps or so, depending on the SUP). So, in summation, 3Com is clearly behind on things.
To be off topic, if your sig ("Vengeance is fine") is where I think it's from, I believe you have misquoted it. The Scripture, found at Romans 12:19 says, in part, "Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." And that, in fact, is what Indian Larry has tattooed on his neck.
People on slashdot very often compare Oracle to open source offerings (many of which lack ACID). So I don't think it was very off the wall of me to compare Oracle to non-ACID DBs.
Oracle is not fast. Not not fast. Speed isn't Oracle's game. Data integrity is. The point is that you sacrifice speed for things like real atomicity.
Meanwhile... on the other side...
%SRP-4-WRAP_STATE_CHANGE: SRP2/0 wrapped on side B
WHAT THE HELL
%SRP-4-WRAP_STATE_CHANGE: SRP2/0 unwrapped on side B
Huh?
%SRP-4-WRAP_STATE_CHANGE: SRP2/0 wrapped on side B
HEY! Stop that!
%SRP-4-WRAP_STATE_CHANGE: SRP2/0 unwrapped on side B
That's not funny!
Speaking of the CatOS -> IOS transition, that is going as unsmoothly as anyone could possibly conceive. That and I haven't met anyone who actually prefers the IOS interface to the CatOS interface. IOS's approach to switches appears to be such a hack, whereas the CatOS approach just makes sense.
And you, sir, are overpaying. As stated before, the vast majority of people would never use this storage space. Those who would manage to fill this up would take some time to do it, and by the time they approach a large amount of mail, storage prices will have dropped considerably.
Thank you for stating the obvious (that's not supposed to be sarcasm), as apparently the person who replied to me didn't understand the full picture.
When I was a sophomore, my school was just starting to offer AP Computer Science A (C++) to juniors and seniors. I petitioned and got in the class. Out of roughly forty students only I and one other student got a 5 on the exam. Due to the obvious lack of preparation of most of the kids entering the course, I encouraged my teacher to try to start an intro. class. Surprisingly, he listened, and even listened to my language recommendation of Scheme. That summer he went to a Scheme teacher's workshop type thing geared to starting coures in Scheme. Sure enough, the following fall, a semester course called Introduction to Computer Programming was being taught using Scheme to grades 10 and above. High schools can be decent places to learn coding, if you have faculty that is motivated to teach it. I even managed to start a chapter of the American Computer Science League in my school. That kind of failed since we were all seniors who were far past giving a damn. It was still a good idea though.