If the real intentions behind lifting that sub was to get the crew back (at least not abandonning them in the bottom of the sea) or because they were affraid others might get their torpedo technology... makes you wonder...
If it would have been the first case, why wasn't it done before? If it's the second case, doesn't it sound like "coincidence" that since war is grooming, they didn't want to leave anything that could give an edge to someone else? (not that the taliban have subs but..)
Makes me wonder... Anyhow, I'm sure it's a "good" thing for the families of the people that got trapped in there, at least they will get a proper ceremony and burial place, that doesn't change much, but if my brother/sister or dad would have been caught in there, it would have made one for me knowing he's not resting undersea (but I'd still be pissed at how much time it took them to do this).
That's the most brilliant idea that I've read in weeks... sending the entertainment people in orbit!
Send the people behind RIAA and MPAA into space, you'll get out full undivided support!
Oh and don't send too much oxygen... you know, it costs 1000$/KG so, you can try to save on that issue... especially if you are commercial, you must turn into profits... just a suggestion:)
>Jesus, I hope this is bullshit, but I just heard on CNN the Taliban is forcing 13-year olds to fight and is redirecting refugees into combat areas. What the hell is worth all this? Why would a human being do something like that? It makes no sense! Surely they realize they're alienate and enrage their own people!
Wake up, what human being would use a plane and slam it in a building? Logic isn't the point here, you've been educated with different method and values than they have had.. for them, violence fighting and hating without knowing even why in some cases, is their base like yours are tolerance, thinking about the other and caring.
While I hate violence in real world, I don't think the americans had a choice. Besides, it's not like if the talibans didn't have time to consider what would happen if they wouldn't give that Laden fanatic to propper authorities.
>OptiMoz (a.k.a. MozGest) is a XPI for Mozilla allowing Mouse Gestures to be available
Now I can see IE6.5 having this integrated and calling it XP-Innovation (or Immitation, you choose).
Still, it's nice, but normally when you surf the web you input data as well, so aren't keyboard shortcuts a more "productive" solution?
One extra thing I use often on the mouse are the 2 side buttons linked to "back" and "foward", these 2 are great, if your mouse isn't a dexxa and you always accidently press on them while moving the mouse:).
Intel needs to sell more chipsets because via DARED to touch into their lucrative chipsets market.
No but seriously, tell me you can design a 40 million transistor chip that runs in gigaherts, and not make a design for it to be compatible with current motherboards out there? Talk about bad will. I was hoping to upgrade my serverworks-based workstation with 2 of these monsters, well seems like I'll keep the 800mhz... See intel? your plan on selling chipsets for what, 25$ each, costed you the sell of 2 processors, of what, few hundred bucks each?... I'm sure I am not the only one who'll react like this or turned his head towards the TigerMP platform.
Intel manages to keep the prices over two times higher than an AMD with SAME performance... while I don't really care about the graphics industry right now (ATI can manage to arm Nvidia for the comming year or two, plus they have diversified fields of interrests as well to back up the company), but I am worried by Intel. In comparison, Nvidia brings you quality, performing, and rather cheap parts if you don't want to go to the top of the food chain... Intel by comparison, they are good desing (the chips don't toast, the heat sinks are easier to install than on AMD, etc) but poorly performing and WAY overpriced.
If they can manage to sell some stuff over 2 times the price of an "equivalent" AMD part, what's going to happen if AMD dies or has a major problem with the next product cycle in a year or 2 from now? Forget about crusoe, I'm talking high-end CPUs, x86 renderfarm nodes, etc...
Anyways I do my part, I buy only intel when *really* needed, i.e. when I'm instructed to, or when the programmer needs an SSE2-capable CPU to do his optimisations. Else I try to support AMD the best I can... I am about to build another renderfarm and it'll be using TigerMP an AhtlonXP processors. They need support, and Intel needs to see that it's pricing scheme is bad.
Featuring 28gigaflops, processing 2 billion antialiased pixels per second, 1000 voxels per seconds, support for surround video and all.
Nice!, no games supports geforce 3 to it's best right now:)
But serously, it's nice seeing the technology being pushed foward at a crazy pace like that, but the amount of data to assimilate for all the new stuff being shoved up at the programmers every 6 months is crazy... and you have to keep in mind that they gave a GAME to program, not only a technological demo. if there were 1000 carmack in the game community, I bet we would see stuff comming out a bit faster (imagine a beowulf clusters of Carmacks:) ) but the reality is, the engine/3d is a part, the game itself is the other part, and even if there are 50 programmers working on a project, it's not 50 programmers working on incorporating the newer technologies and figuring out all the new twists and tricks to do with stuff like the pixel shader.
It's exiting, but at the same time I'd feel a bit overwhelmed with working on a board or featureset and seeing it being crushed by something better even before I finish polishing the code on my current project:)
Any Big corporation that acts lame normally is doing so as a last resort.
Look at ANY company you've seen (ok aside from microsoft:) ) that pissed off it's customers and imposed a shitload of restrictions and played dirty, it's always the same pattern, "we got f*cked because we didn't do any DD nor looked after what's out there simply because we assumed we were the best and had total control over the market..." now that they realize they sat on their success and thought they had the perfect eternal cash cow, they don't accept it and instead of INNOVATING to surpass that (because usually the manager are proud incompetent morons that have no clue about newer technologies), they are simply playing dirty on EVERY level they can.
The only difference is now they still have a lot of cashflow and influence... If they would be fair, they'd developp a system WITH encryption and an honnor thing like you download the movie, you pay 2$, you watch it, it gets deleted or scrambled 48 hours later... what's bad about that? they generate a pile of money, they could sell that system to places like blockbusters, the technology exists, it's feasible (dvd-rw, cd-rw, whatever media), and people WOULD support it. Heck, I'd even support at 100% arresting someone who hacks these CD for a fraudulent usage because that would be really low, I do accept they have to generate income and protect their content, but not by doublecrossing us and limiting our use of a computer.
Now shoving a bill and using criminal laws to shove content up our butt is quite insulting, and will get the exact opposed reaction.
If you want to voice your concerns about a specific issue with the new domains. Direct contacts, that's evil, I wonder if they will read all their mail.
>>>>> When you buy a.sex domain, the registrar send you a little pluging for Internet Explorer. That plugin adds lookups for.sex site on the registrar's name server. So it works. It works for you, it works for whoever installs the plugin.
But it won't work for all the rest of the world. You'll be charged $75 for a domain that nobody will see.
"We are facing an enemy like we've never faced before, we can't see him, we can't bomb him. and[...]"
He's right, and to make every computer-illeterate american feel safe, his administration pointed a "tangible" enemy on which they can "look like they can do something about it".
Too bad they are forgetting that people can now use the net if they want to find out about stuff they don't understand fully. And besides, even if you're flipping burgers, you can understand that there's a shitload of material already available to build a safe encryption mechanism with what's on the net.
Talk about shooting in any directions. I'd feel much safer knowing they've catched the leaders of all the known terrorists groups, and that people increase the immigration security/background check.
Better start sending positionning signals into space TODAY, because when we'll reach warp drive capabilities, we'll travel faster than the radio signal, and I don't want any excuses for those people to be Lost and waiting for the signal to catch up on them.
Two polarizing filters encase the liquid crystals in the LCD. One filter is etched with horizontal lines; the other with vertical. Light enters the liquid-crystal compartment parallel to the first filter's lines and follows the path of the liquid crystals. If the liquid crystals become energized, the crystals and light rays do not twist to become parallel with the second filter. Light rays reach the second filter perpendicular to its lines and cannot pass through to the viewer's screen image. If the crystals are not energized, they twist themselves and the light rays to allow light to pass through and illuminate the LCD.
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http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article. as p?article=articles%2Farchive%2Fg0903%2F36g03%2F36g 03%2Easp
It's an *EXCELLENT* board, a bit expensive but it doesn't have all the "problems" it's older brother had (power supply issues comes to mind).
BTW: KUDOS to anandtech for doing something more than quake benchmarks (not that I mind about quake benchmarks but only GAMES benchmarks and crap like sysmarks doesn't show the real potential of the board in a REALWORLD context, you can tweak a system/drivers for specific tests, EVEN if they are supposed to be the closest thing to realworld, manufacturer know exactly WHAT the websites are going to benchmark with and they will exploit everything they can). I really appreciate the fact that there was something like 3DSmax rendering numbers for example, you don't buy that kind of setup to play games, you buy it for cad, 3d, server, workstation, GENERALLY:).
Of course it's still a bit "expensive" right now, but since it's unique on the market due to tyan's exclusive deal with amd, I guess it's a bit normal for them to try to cash in on that, still it's WAY cheaper than the intel equivalent offering. The price will come down soon enough when Asus releases it's version and there were rumors about a gigabyte motherboard comming soon as well.
The only thing that would make me hesitate if I was someone without the budget and wanting to invest for a "longer term" solution, if there's supposed to be an HAMMER announcement from amd in october or november (with all you can read on the net) and the fact that it should run 3x the speed of an Athlon, you might want to hold off a bit, but else, it's an excellent choice, I've ordered 5 extra renderfarm nodes built on Tiger MP motherboards. The only thing I have to worry now is heat management;)
If you don't want to get spoiling, why the heck do you continue reading after "tonight's enterprise episode, first reactions" ? I don't get it, why do people bitch about that, you KNOW what's comming.... I didn't see the episode *I* wanted to see people's reaction, so I am happy about it, if I wouldn't want to read anything about it, I'd just skip it.
Bitching for bitching is lame, okay bitching against the people bitching isn't any better, but can someone actually explain in a Vulcan way (logic heh) what's the problem with that?
sheesh:)
oh and the letters in the topic are for your own imagination, you probably guessed the F right though:)
I don't want to sound pessimistic but since they rarely reply back, how can you be sure the website actually FAXES your demand and doesn't simply map it to/dev/null?
- They can't claim AMD are not performing well enough compared to "other available solutions".
- They can't claim AMD is not stable enough.
- They can't claim that the users don't want AMD in their systems.
- They can't claim anything negative about the pricing of AMD parts (especially if you compare with Intel).
- They can't claim they don't have enough support from AMD nor AMD are playing dirty IP games with them.
I say, screw you Gateway, you did enough stupid moves in your life, Trashing the amiga community when you we're backed up by all the loyal fans and could have had a nice platform to sell, you acted completely like hypocrites, hiring people sometimes from another country, make their live miserable about a year later, and now you're bailing on AMD after convincing people how good it is? I mean, taking computer for a religion is pathetic, I'll admit it, but acting like you are is completely un-ethical and shows who's milking you. "Gateway, building lifelong relationships" well I sincerely hope your company lives "lifelong" too, whatever that means.
I don't want to see a gateway laptop, I don't want to ever see a desktop, hell! I don't even want to see a MUG comming from your company, the hell with you, you had your chance, you messed up two times, and two major times. People will remember you when you'll see the Hammer family out and some companies making profit. AMD will never say no to buisness opportunities, even if you dropped them. Buisness is buisness... too bad, some consumers don't think like that, and it happens that some computer-literate people have more and more power over purchasing decisions, be sure I'll use mine.
Now you need to make a "real interresting product", if you wanna make cash, go attack against the 760MP chipset. I mean, I won't pay an extra 50% on a motherboard for 10-15% better performance, if I can pay 75%% for doubling it (without counting the price for the extra cpu) (prices of the cpu are so cheap right now anyways:)).
I won't buy a single cpu motherboard in these times, with the hammer around the block, and the fact that I know I'll be outdated rapidly, my next syste1m will be like my current: Dual cpu, overclockable a bit and will last me at least 2 years, well hopefully:) (I am using it primarely for 3d rendering so you see where I am going).
My current system is a BP6 (dual celery 366->550). I am waiting for the "next BP6". I thought about dual durons, but now the price of Athlons is so cheap that I am just waiting for the 1.2GHZMP to take a small drop, and the Tiger MP to get a competitor so it reaches decent level (like the BP6 was). At least with that, I won't cry out when the Hammer will come out with a bigger price tag and 3x the performance over a single processor machine, I'll be on par and over the barrier on the price/performance issue (at least for a good while).
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If the real intentions behind lifting that sub was to get the crew back (at least not abandonning them in the bottom of the sea) or because they were affraid others might get their torpedo technology... makes you wonder...
If it would have been the first case, why wasn't it done before? If it's the second case, doesn't it sound like "coincidence" that since war is grooming, they didn't want to leave anything that could give an edge to someone else? (not that the taliban have subs but..)
Makes me wonder... Anyhow, I'm sure it's a "good" thing for the families of the people that got trapped in there, at least they will get a proper ceremony and burial place, that doesn't change much, but if my brother/sister or dad would have been caught in there, it would have made one for me knowing he's not resting undersea (but I'd still be pissed at how much time it took them to do this).
That's the most brilliant idea that I've read in weeks... sending the entertainment people in orbit!
:)
Send the people behind RIAA and MPAA into space, you'll get out full undivided support!
Oh and don't send too much oxygen... you know, it costs 1000$/KG so, you can try to save on that issue... especially if you are commercial, you must turn into profits... just a suggestion
I do not have the moderator status, but if I had, I would have given you +5 on this post.
>Jesus, I hope this is bullshit, but I just heard on CNN the Taliban is forcing 13-year olds to fight and is redirecting refugees into combat areas. What the hell is worth all this? Why would a human being do something like that? It makes no sense! Surely they realize they're alienate and enrage their own people!
Wake up, what human being would use a plane and slam it in a building? Logic isn't the point here, you've been educated with different method and values than they have had.. for them, violence fighting and hating without knowing even why in some cases, is their base like yours are tolerance, thinking about the other and caring.
While I hate violence in real world, I don't think the americans had a choice. Besides, it's not like if the talibans didn't have time to consider what would happen if they wouldn't give that Laden fanatic to propper authorities.
>OptiMoz (a.k.a. MozGest) is a XPI for Mozilla allowing Mouse Gestures to be available
:).
Now I can see IE6.5 having this integrated and calling it XP-Innovation (or Immitation, you choose).
Still, it's nice, but normally when you surf the web you input data as well, so aren't keyboard shortcuts a more "productive" solution?
One extra thing I use often on the mouse are the 2 side buttons linked to "back" and "foward", these 2 are great, if your mouse isn't a dexxa and you always accidently press on them while moving the mouse
"COOL!!!" that's the reaction when you hear a cluster solution from alpha...
"HOT!!!" is the reaction you'll get in 2 years from now when you'll see the same thing comming from intel.
:)
Intel needs to sell more chipsets because via DARED to touch into their lucrative chipsets market.
No but seriously, tell me you can design a 40 million transistor chip that runs in gigaherts, and not make a design for it to be compatible with current motherboards out there? Talk about bad will. I was hoping to upgrade my serverworks-based workstation with 2 of these monsters, well seems like I'll keep the 800mhz... See intel? your plan on selling chipsets for what, 25$ each, costed you the sell of 2 processors, of what, few hundred bucks each?... I'm sure I am not the only one who'll react like this or turned his head towards the TigerMP platform.
Intel manages to keep the prices over two times higher than an AMD with SAME performance... while I don't really care about the graphics industry right now (ATI can manage to arm Nvidia for the comming year or two, plus they have diversified fields of interrests as well to back up the company), but I am worried by Intel. In comparison, Nvidia brings you quality, performing, and rather cheap parts if you don't want to go to the top of the food chain... Intel by comparison, they are good desing (the chips don't toast, the heat sinks are easier to install than on AMD, etc) but poorly performing and WAY overpriced.
If they can manage to sell some stuff over 2 times the price of an "equivalent" AMD part, what's going to happen if AMD dies or has a major problem with the next product cycle in a year or 2 from now? Forget about crusoe, I'm talking high-end CPUs, x86 renderfarm nodes, etc...
Anyways I do my part, I buy only intel when *really* needed, i.e. when I'm instructed to, or when the programmer needs an SSE2-capable CPU to do his optimisations. Else I try to support AMD the best I can... I am about to build another renderfarm and it'll be using TigerMP an AhtlonXP processors. They need support, and Intel needs to see that it's pricing scheme is bad.
Geforce 4 announced,
:)
:) ) but the reality is, the engine/3d is a part, the game itself is the other part, and even if there are 50 programmers working on a project, it's not 50 programmers working on incorporating the newer technologies and figuring out all the new twists and tricks to do with stuff like the pixel shader.
:)
Featuring 28gigaflops, processing 2 billion antialiased pixels per second, 1000 voxels per seconds, support for surround video and all.
Nice!, no games supports geforce 3 to it's best right now
But serously, it's nice seeing the technology being pushed foward at a crazy pace like that, but the amount of data to assimilate for all the new stuff being shoved up at the programmers every 6 months is crazy... and you have to keep in mind that they gave a GAME to program, not only a technological demo. if there were 1000 carmack in the game community, I bet we would see stuff comming out a bit faster (imagine a beowulf clusters of Carmacks
It's exiting, but at the same time I'd feel a bit overwhelmed with working on a board or featureset and seeing it being crushed by something better even before I finish polishing the code on my current project
That's a few watts... you'd need something to convert BioGasses into energy...
... and a lot of beans...
Any Big corporation that acts lame normally is doing so as a last resort.
:) ) that pissed off it's customers and imposed a shitload of restrictions and played dirty, it's always the same pattern, "we got f*cked because we didn't do any DD nor looked after what's out there simply because we assumed we were the best and had total control over the market..." now that they realize they sat on their success and thought they had the perfect eternal cash cow, they don't accept it and instead of INNOVATING to surpass that (because usually the manager are proud incompetent morons that have no clue about newer technologies), they are simply playing dirty on EVERY level they can.
Look at ANY company you've seen (ok aside from microsoft
The only difference is now they still have a lot of cashflow and influence... If they would be fair, they'd developp a system WITH encryption and an honnor thing like you download the movie, you pay 2$, you watch it, it gets deleted or scrambled 48 hours later... what's bad about that? they generate a pile of money, they could sell that system to places like blockbusters, the technology exists, it's feasible (dvd-rw, cd-rw, whatever media), and people WOULD support it. Heck, I'd even support at 100% arresting someone who hacks these CD for a fraudulent usage because that would be really low, I do accept they have to generate income and protect their content, but not by doublecrossing us and limiting our use of a computer.
Now shoving a bill and using criminal laws to shove content up our butt is quite insulting, and will get the exact opposed reaction.
There's always http://www.icann.org/tlds/
If you want to voice your concerns about a specific issue with the new domains. Direct contacts, that's evil, I wonder if they will read all their mail.
>>>>> When you buy a .sex domain, the registrar send you a little pluging for Internet Explorer. That plugin adds lookups for .sex site on the registrar's name server. So it works. It works for you, it works for whoever installs the plugin.
:)
But it won't work for all the rest of the world. You'll be charged $75 for a domain that nobody will see.
Now THAT'S what I call getting well screwed
"We are facing an enemy like we've never faced before, we can't see him, we can't bomb him. and[...]"
He's right, and to make every computer-illeterate american feel safe, his administration pointed a "tangible" enemy on which they can "look like they can do something about it".
Too bad they are forgetting that people can now use the net if they want to find out about stuff they don't understand fully. And besides, even if you're flipping burgers, you can understand that there's a shitload of material already available to build a safe encryption mechanism with what's on the net.
Talk about shooting in any directions. I'd feel much safer knowing they've catched the leaders of all the known terrorists groups, and that people increase the immigration security/background check.
Better start sending positionning signals into space TODAY, because when we'll reach warp drive capabilities, we'll travel faster than the radio signal, and I don't want any excuses for those people to be Lost and waiting for the signal to catch up on them.
Two polarizing filters encase the liquid crystals in the LCD. One filter is etched with horizontal lines; the other with vertical. Light enters the liquid-crystal compartment parallel to the first filter's lines and follows the path of the liquid crystals. If the liquid crystals become energized, the crystals and light rays do not twist to become parallel with the second filter. Light rays reach the second filter perpendicular to its lines and cannot pass through to the viewer's screen image. If the crystals are not energized, they twist themselves and the light rays to allow light to pass through and illuminate the LCD.
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taken from
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article
>then Windows 2000 must be absolutely fantastic.
:)
:)
it is 20.408 times better than 98
But where I come from, multiplying by 0 always gives a big 0
It's an *EXCELLENT* board, a bit expensive but it doesn't have all the "problems" it's older brother had (power supply issues comes to mind).
:).
;)
BTW: KUDOS to anandtech for doing something more than quake benchmarks (not that I mind about quake benchmarks but only GAMES benchmarks and crap like sysmarks doesn't show the real potential of the board in a REALWORLD context, you can tweak a system/drivers for specific tests, EVEN if they are supposed to be the closest thing to realworld, manufacturer know exactly WHAT the websites are going to benchmark with and they will exploit everything they can). I really appreciate the fact that there was something like 3DSmax rendering numbers for example, you don't buy that kind of setup to play games, you buy it for cad, 3d, server, workstation, GENERALLY
Of course it's still a bit "expensive" right now, but since it's unique on the market due to tyan's exclusive deal with amd, I guess it's a bit normal for them to try to cash in on that, still it's WAY cheaper than the intel equivalent offering. The price will come down soon enough when Asus releases it's version and there were rumors about a gigabyte motherboard comming soon as well.
The only thing that would make me hesitate if I was someone without the budget and wanting to invest for a "longer term" solution, if there's supposed to be an HAMMER announcement from amd in october or november (with all you can read on the net) and the fact that it should run 3x the speed of an Athlon, you might want to hold off a bit, but else, it's an excellent choice, I've ordered 5 extra renderfarm nodes built on Tiger MP motherboards. The only thing I have to worry now is heat management
If you don't want to get spoiling, why the heck do you continue reading after "tonight's enterprise episode, first reactions" ? I don't get it, why do people bitch about that, you KNOW what's comming.... I didn't see the episode *I* wanted to see people's reaction, so I am happy about it, if I wouldn't want to read anything about it, I'd just skip it.
:)
:)
Bitching for bitching is lame, okay bitching against the people bitching isn't any better, but can someone actually explain in a Vulcan way (logic heh) what's the problem with that?
sheesh
oh and the letters in the topic are for your own imagination, you probably guessed the F right though
Søren... Søren.... man you guys with your 1000 char sets are driving me nuts! S73^#@*%@*# you! :)
I don't want to sound pessimistic but since they rarely reply back, how can you be sure the website actually FAXES your demand and doesn't simply map it to /dev/null?
- They can't claim AMD is not stable enough.
- They can't claim that the users don't want AMD in their systems.
- They can't claim anything negative about the pricing of AMD parts (especially if you compare with Intel).
- They can't claim they don't have enough support from AMD nor AMD are playing dirty IP games with them.
I say, screw you Gateway, you did enough stupid moves in your life, Trashing the amiga community when you we're backed up by all the loyal fans and could have had a nice platform to sell, you acted completely like hypocrites, hiring people sometimes from another country, make their live miserable about a year later, and now you're bailing on AMD after convincing people how good it is? I mean, taking computer for a religion is pathetic, I'll admit it, but acting like you are is completely un-ethical and shows who's milking you. "Gateway, building lifelong relationships" well I sincerely hope your company lives "lifelong" too, whatever that means.
I don't want to see a gateway laptop, I don't want to ever see a desktop, hell! I don't even want to see a MUG comming from your company, the hell with you, you had your chance, you messed up two times, and two major times. People will remember you when you'll see the Hammer family out and some companies making profit. AMD will never say no to buisness opportunities, even if you dropped them. Buisness is buisness... too bad, some consumers don't think like that, and it happens that some computer-literate people have more and more power over purchasing decisions, be sure I'll use mine.
Carmack's feedback on this ;)
Now you need to make a "real interresting product", if you wanna make cash, go attack against the 760MP chipset. I mean, I won't pay an extra 50% on a motherboard for 10-15% better performance, if I can pay 75%% for doubling it (without counting the price for the extra cpu) (prices of the cpu are so cheap right now anyways :)).
:) (I am using it primarely for 3d rendering so you see where I am going).
I won't buy a single cpu motherboard in these times, with the hammer around the block, and the fact that I know I'll be outdated rapidly, my next syste1m will be like my current: Dual cpu, overclockable a bit and will last me at least 2 years, well hopefully
My current system is a BP6 (dual celery 366->550). I am waiting for the "next BP6". I thought about dual durons, but now the price of Athlons is so cheap that I am just waiting for the 1.2GHZMP to take a small drop, and the Tiger MP to get a competitor so it reaches decent level (like the BP6 was). At least with that, I won't cry out when the Hammer will come out with a bigger price tag and 3x the performance over a single processor machine, I'll be on par and over the barrier on the price/performance issue (at least for a good while).
Exept the "chipmem" isn't running at 100+ns :)
:)
:)
and it won't take an eternity to redraw a 1027x768 window hehe
Still... I'd say "true... true..."... Now I need a beer