While there are lots of objection to TSA's tactics, this isn't one. Flying isn't a right. They aren't saying "submit to a search" which would be a clear violation of your rights. They're saying "submit to a search or you can't get on the plane". You have no intrinsic right to get on the plane, they can be put preconditions on your doing so.
For all the great purposes for which the Federal government was formed, we are one people, with one common country. We are all citizens of the United States; and, as members of the same community, must have the right to pass and repass through every part of it without interruption, as freely as in our own States. Smith v. Turner; Norris v. City of Boston, 48 U.S. 283, 472 (1849).
Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to remove from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the Fourteenth Amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution,. Williams v. Fears, 179 U.S. 270, 274 (1900).
In all the States from the beginning down to the adoption of the Articles of Confederation the citizens thereof possessed the fundamental right, inherent in citizens of all free governments, peacefully to dwell within the limits of their respective States, to move at will from place to place therein, and to have free ingress thereto and egress therefrom, with a consequent authority in the States to forbid and punish violations of this fundamental right. United States v. Wheeler, 254 U.S. 281, 293 (1920).
The constitutional right to travel from one State to another, and necessarily to use the highways and other instrumentalities of interstate commerce in doing so, occupies a position fundamental to the concept of our Federal Union. It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized. United States v. Guest, 383 U.S. 747, 757 (1965).
This Court long ago recognized that the nature of our Federal Union and our constitutional concepts of personal liberty unite to require that all citizens be free to travel throughout the length and breadth of our land uninhibited by statutes, rules, or regulations. Shapiro v. Thompson, 394 U.S. 618, 629 (1968).
Each citizen has the absolute right to choose for himself the mode of conveyance he desires, whether it be by wagon or carriage, by horse, motor or electric car, or by bicycle, or astride of a horse, subject to the sole condition that he will observe all those requirements that are known as the law of the road. Swift v. City of Topeka, 43 Kan. 671, 674; 23 P. 1075, 1076 (1890).
The right of the public to use the streets is the right to use them for purposes of travel in the recognized methods in which the public highways of the State are used. Any method of travel may be adopted by individual members of the public which is an ordinary method of locomotion, or even an extraordinary method, if it is not, of itself, calculated to prevent a reasonably safe use of the street by others. Chicago v. Collins, 175 Ill. 445, 455; 51 N.E. 907, 909 (1898).
That the use of automobiles on the highways for business or recreation is lawful, is no longer open to question. Such use involves only the application of a new appliance and mode of travel, rather than any new legal principle. It does not exclude or seriously interfere with the original modes in which the highways were used, but simply adds another use in furtherance of the general object for which they were dedicated. Deputy v. Kimmell, 73 W. Va. 595; 80 S.E. 919 (1914).
The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right in doing so to use the ordinary
if you don't want to be searched, don't fly. they're not compulsory.
This is the government eating its cake and having it too -- they'll cite all the reasons why a ticket is considered a private contract and you waive any rights to search before purchasing, yadda yadda yet co-opt the TSA into federal service, making them all government employees who would normally be required to follow the law regarding search and seizure.
It's excellent advice but with one caveat: some companies have a policy that they will not deal with a former client/customer who has been sent to collections and they refer those people to the collection agency to which they sold the debt.
Then maybe you shouldn't have a Facebook account, huh? It's voluntary. If you choose to participate, you get all the benefits. You don't choose to get postcards vs. letters. You don't choose to have someone put up a billboard with your face and debt details. Or to have someone sit outside your house with a loudspeaker. But Facebook, that was a choice you made. You chose it because of its communications and networking (social) abilities.
I can also choose to have my phone number published in a telephone book; doesn't mean that it's suddenly okay for scumbags to call me and/or harass me.
If you don't want to deal with scum debt collectors for debts you owe, don't borrow money from scum lenders that won't negotiate with you when you have problems. Borrow from a car dealer, what do you expect? Did something change in the last few years and are car dealers now in the group we'd call "honest businessmen?
That's a laughably naïve attitude. A person may have all kinds of legitimate dealings with honest businesses which may turn over the debt to a (what may turn out to be) a scumbag collections agency. I had at one time a medical emergency, collapsed and almost died. While in the hospital trying to recuperate, I lost pretty much everything I could liquidate to help pay for my medical expenses. I also had a CapitalOne credit card with a paltry $1,000 limit. When I contacted them by phone and by letter telling them that I was in a fucking nursing home for the forseeable future (turns out I was in a nursing home for four years), they "helpfully" kept my account active, but charged me a monthly late fee (I could make no payments) and when those late fees pushed past my $1,000 limit, I was charged a late fee plus an overdraft fee -- every month for more than six months. So it was about a hundred and twenty dollars in fees (plus their 18% interest) piled on to my account after I informed them, with medical records and such, that I wouldn't be able to pay.
Then they finally closed my account and sent me to collections.
tl;dr
No one has a choice in which assholes they get to talk to if their account gets sent to collections.
Well, in my opinion, I think it has worked with these terms. I have a fourteen year old daughter and I kinda keep track of her and her friends on Facebook; by doing so, I get a little more insight on what that generation views people who are called nerds and geeks and with my daughter and amongst her friends and other people I knew from previous jobs and so on, the terms are used with very little negative connotation.
I didn't mean to sound condescending towards you, I hope you didn't interpret it that way, BTW.
"Ah! Welcome! According to my profile established by previous customers matching your characteristics, please enjoy this Mountain Dew and cos-play stroke book! Just remember that the HappyHappy JoyJoy Vending Machine Company Limited hates Microsoft and all information wishes to be free! Have a nice day!"
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A person of your advanced age and wisdom, such as myself, should already know that oftentimes we take words which were originally intended to denigrate, hurt, insult and belittle and turn them into a quasi-badge of honor, of membership, of belonging to a group of people who are, on average, extremely intelligent, professional, and frankly make those peoples' little world go round.
I actually get more praise these days from acknowledging and reveling in my geekness and my nerditude than I ever get in derision.
According to network solutions, nooo.org is taken.
But noooo.org is available!
Be careful, though, when typing noooo.org into your browser because noooooo.gov is owned by Lord Vader and he's a stickler when it comes to protecting his domain.
More guns in the hands of law abiding people will just turn the law abiding citizens into criminals because owning a gun makes you instinctively want to use it on another human being for no reason whatsoever.
Ah, I see you two haven't met. Allow me to introduce you. Jameskojiro -- logic. Logic, meet jameskojiro.
It was actually a successful launch of the first intercontinental stealth missile put out by Obsidian/Bethesda. Now all they have to do is sit back and let the modding community come up with the working stealth portion of the missile. China, however, will probably wait for the Intercontinental Stealth Missile: Missile of the Year to come out first.
Someone I know was fed up with viruses so tried to install Ubuntu on her laptop.
Somewhere along the line it said her wireless networking card was not supported and pointed her to a big page of very cryptic instructions. There's no way she was going to manage what the page was telling her to do. Hell, even though I probably could have done it, I probably wouldn't have bothered either.
She went back to Windows (out of no other choice really). So there's one potential new Linux user who didn't get past square one.
I see it mentioned once or twice in threads like these but it's funny how Windows errors and problems are just taken in stride, ignored, forgotten, minimized. One Linux distro issue and it's practically the collapse of civilization as we know it.
I mean, how helpful is it really when Windows errors out with "Please see your system administrator" or "0x02033u723834234fuckme" hexdump? They're gonna be makin' a call to someone for their Windows hassle; why is it somehow different when they'd have to call a Linux guru (or somebody at least familiar with it) for a Linux hassle?
Anyway, I don't want to see Linux become Windows. We have a Windows already, it's called Windows. But Linux *would* get more adoption if it could do things like play Netflix streams. I know, I know, "it isn't Linux's fault". But it's Linux's *problem*, no matters who is at fault. Users don't really care about fault, they just want it to work.
I wholeheartedly agree with this; and realistically these days, there are many distros out there that "just work."
Narrator: Was it ticking? Airport Security Officer: Actually throwers don't worry about ticking 'cause modern bombs don't tick. Narrator: Sorry, throwers? Airport Security Officer: Baggage handlers. But, when a suitcase vibrates, then the throwers gotta call the police. Narrator: My suitcase was vibrating? Airport Security Officer: Nine times out of ten it's an electric razor, but every once in a while... [whispering] Airport Security Officer:...it's a dildo. Of course, it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article 'a' dildo, never 'your' dildo.
Because the bad guys have all discovered 2048 bit crypto, that's why.
So I'd say with mobile devices getting more powerful every day it isn't "the bad guys" that have to worry about this, it is the average Joe. They are the ones that'll be running around with unlocked devices or still using the default password, whereas the bad guys will have everything locked up.
Yes, that's exactly the problem. Only the bad guys will be savvy enough to actually lock down their shit so it becomes easy to spot the bad guys and the few not-bad guys who also happen to encrypt their shit get unfairly targeted.
There's no default of encryption or privacy anymore. Countless times around the country do innocent people give up their rights when dealing with the cops and government just because it's a) easier or b) they've "got nothing to hide" and frankly, that scares me the most.
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While there are lots of objection to TSA's tactics, this isn't one. Flying isn't a right. They aren't saying "submit to a search" which would be a clear violation of your rights. They're saying "submit to a search or you can't get on the plane". You have no intrinsic right to get on the plane, they can be put preconditions on your doing so.
For all the great purposes for which the Federal government was formed, we are one people, with one common country. We are all citizens of the United States; and, as members of the same community, must have the right to pass and repass through every part of it without interruption, as freely as in our own States. Smith v. Turner; Norris v. City of Boston, 48 U.S. 283, 472 (1849).
Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to remove from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the Fourteenth Amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution,. Williams v. Fears, 179 U.S. 270, 274 (1900).
In all the States from the beginning down to the adoption of the Articles of Confederation the citizens thereof possessed the fundamental right, inherent in citizens of all free governments, peacefully to dwell within the limits of their respective States, to move at will from place to place therein, and to have free ingress thereto and egress therefrom, with a consequent authority in the States to forbid and punish violations of this fundamental right. United States v. Wheeler, 254 U.S. 281, 293 (1920).
The constitutional right to travel from one State to another, and necessarily to use the highways and other instrumentalities of interstate commerce in doing so, occupies a position fundamental to the concept of our Federal Union. It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized. United States v. Guest, 383 U.S. 747, 757 (1965).
This Court long ago recognized that the nature of our Federal Union and our constitutional concepts of personal liberty unite to require that all citizens be free to travel throughout the length and breadth of our land uninhibited by statutes, rules, or regulations. Shapiro v. Thompson, 394 U.S. 618, 629 (1968).
Each citizen has the absolute right to choose for himself the mode of conveyance he desires, whether it be by wagon or carriage, by horse, motor or electric car, or by bicycle, or astride of a horse, subject to the sole condition that he will observe all those requirements that are known as the law of the road. Swift v. City of Topeka, 43 Kan. 671, 674; 23 P. 1075, 1076 (1890).
The right of the public to use the streets is the right to use them for purposes of travel in the recognized methods in which the public highways of the State are used. Any method of travel may be adopted by individual members of the public which is an ordinary method of locomotion, or even an extraordinary method, if it is not, of itself, calculated to prevent a reasonably safe use of the street by others. Chicago v. Collins, 175 Ill. 445, 455; 51 N.E. 907, 909 (1898).
That the use of automobiles on the highways for business or recreation is lawful, is no longer open to question. Such use involves only the application of a new appliance and mode of travel, rather than any new legal principle. It does not exclude or seriously interfere with the original modes in which the highways were used, but simply adds another use in furtherance of the general object for which they were dedicated. Deputy v. Kimmell, 73 W. Va. 595; 80 S.E. 919 (1914).
The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right in doing so to use the ordinary
if you don't want to be searched, don't fly. they're not compulsory.
This is the government eating its cake and having it too -- they'll cite all the reasons why a ticket is considered a private contract and you waive any rights to search before purchasing, yadda yadda yet co-opt the TSA into federal service, making them all government employees who would normally be required to follow the law regarding search and seizure.
I'm not sure how I'd handle a pat-down from a Marlon Brando lookalike.
I know. He coulda been a contender.
It's excellent advice but with one caveat: some companies have a policy that they will not deal with a former client/customer who has been sent to collections and they refer those people to the collection agency to which they sold the debt.
Then maybe you shouldn't have a Facebook account, huh? It's voluntary. If you choose to participate, you get all the benefits. You don't choose to get postcards vs. letters. You don't choose to have someone put up a billboard with your face and debt details. Or to have someone sit outside your house with a loudspeaker. But Facebook, that was a choice you made. You chose it because of its communications and networking (social) abilities.
I can also choose to have my phone number published in a telephone book; doesn't mean that it's suddenly okay for scumbags to call me and/or harass me.
If you don't want to deal with scum debt collectors for debts you owe, don't borrow money from scum lenders that won't negotiate with you when you have problems. Borrow from a car dealer, what do you expect? Did something change in the last few years and are car dealers now in the group we'd call "honest businessmen?
That's a laughably naïve attitude. A person may have all kinds of legitimate dealings with honest businesses which may turn over the debt to a (what may turn out to be) a scumbag collections agency. I had at one time a medical emergency, collapsed and almost died. While in the hospital trying to recuperate, I lost pretty much everything I could liquidate to help pay for my medical expenses. I also had a CapitalOne credit card with a paltry $1,000 limit. When I contacted them by phone and by letter telling them that I was in a fucking nursing home for the forseeable future (turns out I was in a nursing home for four years), they "helpfully" kept my account active, but charged me a monthly late fee (I could make no payments) and when those late fees pushed past my $1,000 limit, I was charged a late fee plus an overdraft fee -- every month for more than six months. So it was about a hundred and twenty dollars in fees (plus their 18% interest) piled on to my account after I informed them, with medical records and such, that I wouldn't be able to pay.
Then they finally closed my account and sent me to collections.
tl;dr
No one has a choice in which assholes they get to talk to if their account gets sent to collections.
Offtopic or not, your book sounds like an interesting book and one which I'd very much like to read. Good luck in your endeavors.
Well, in my opinion, I think it has worked with these terms. I have a fourteen year old daughter and I kinda keep track of her and her friends on Facebook; by doing so, I get a little more insight on what that generation views people who are called nerds and geeks and with my daughter and amongst her friends and other people I knew from previous jobs and so on, the terms are used with very little negative connotation.
I didn't mean to sound condescending towards you, I hope you didn't interpret it that way, BTW.
"Ah! Welcome! According to my profile established by previous customers matching your characteristics, please enjoy this Mountain Dew and cos-play stroke book! Just remember that the HappyHappy JoyJoy Vending Machine Company Limited hates Microsoft and all information wishes to be free! Have a nice day!"
A person of your advanced age and wisdom, such as myself, should already know that oftentimes we take words which were originally intended to denigrate, hurt, insult and belittle and turn them into a quasi-badge of honor, of membership, of belonging to a group of people who are, on average, extremely intelligent, professional, and frankly make those peoples' little world go round.
I actually get more praise these days from acknowledging and reveling in my geekness and my nerditude than I ever get in derision.
Actually, the first robot actor ever was Keanu Reeves.
An excerpt: 'I looked him straight in the eye and said, "if you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested."'
I wonder if the guy was referring to his genitals or his Asus laptop.
According to network solutions, nooo.org is taken.
But noooo.org is available!
Be careful, though, when typing noooo.org into your browser because noooooo.gov is owned by Lord Vader and he's a stickler when it comes to protecting his domain.
To the last bit, I will grapple with thee... from Diffie-Hellman's heart, I stab at thee! For PGP's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!
It's a real shame that I'm not a red-headed stepchild. I'd make millions...
"I Nintendo'd that shit." -- Used to describe an act where you alienate people that previously liked you for a really, really stupid reason.
You mean they liked you for a really, really stupid reason before you alienated them?
More guns in the hands of law abiding people will just turn the law abiding citizens into criminals because owning a gun makes you instinctively want to use it on another human being for no reason whatsoever.
Ah, I see you two haven't met. Allow me to introduce you. Jameskojiro -- logic. Logic, meet jameskojiro.
The first rule of Fight Club is do not talk about Fight Club!
Why doesn't one of these Super Heroes use their REAL power, and trap their opponent under the "Cone of Dorkdom"?
It's not a cone.
It's a dodecahedron.
It was actually a successful launch of the first intercontinental stealth missile put out by Obsidian/Bethesda. Now all they have to do is sit back and let the modding community come up with the working stealth portion of the missile. China, however, will probably wait for the Intercontinental Stealth Missile: Missile of the Year to come out first.
Welcome back to reality newbs!
Who, ANYPLACE, promised you prejudice-free surfing on any site on the Internet?
And did you buy a bridge from them?
Heh. No, I didn't fall for that old trick!
Say, did you all happen to catch a look at my new blocks of ice just outside the igloo? Pretty fancy!
Someone I know was fed up with viruses so tried to install Ubuntu on her laptop.
Somewhere along the line it said her wireless networking card was not supported and pointed her to a big page of very cryptic instructions. There's no way she was going to manage what the page was telling her to do. Hell, even though I probably could have done it, I probably wouldn't have bothered either.
She went back to Windows (out of no other choice really). So there's one potential new Linux user who didn't get past square one.
I see it mentioned once or twice in threads like these but it's funny how Windows errors and problems are just taken in stride, ignored, forgotten, minimized. One Linux distro issue and it's practically the collapse of civilization as we know it.
I mean, how helpful is it really when Windows errors out with "Please see your system administrator" or "0x02033u723834234fuckme" hexdump? They're gonna be makin' a call to someone for their Windows hassle; why is it somehow different when they'd have to call a Linux guru (or somebody at least familiar with it) for a Linux hassle?
Anyway, I don't want to see Linux become Windows. We have a Windows already, it's called Windows. But Linux *would* get more adoption if it could do things like play Netflix streams. I know, I know, "it isn't Linux's fault". But it's Linux's *problem*, no matters who is at fault. Users don't really care about fault, they just want it to work.
I wholeheartedly agree with this; and realistically these days, there are many distros out there that "just work."
Narrator: Was it ticking? ...it's a dildo. Of course, it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article 'a' dildo, never 'your' dildo.
Airport Security Officer: Actually throwers don't worry about ticking 'cause modern bombs don't tick.
Narrator: Sorry, throwers?
Airport Security Officer: Baggage handlers. But, when a suitcase vibrates, then the throwers gotta call the police.
Narrator: My suitcase was vibrating?
Airport Security Officer: Nine times out of ten it's an electric razor, but every once in a while...
[whispering]
Airport Security Officer:
Because the bad guys have all discovered 2048 bit crypto, that's why.
So I'd say with mobile devices getting more powerful every day it isn't "the bad guys" that have to worry about this, it is the average Joe. They are the ones that'll be running around with unlocked devices or still using the default password, whereas the bad guys will have everything locked up.
Yes, that's exactly the problem. Only the bad guys will be savvy enough to actually lock down their shit so it becomes easy to spot the bad guys and the few not-bad guys who also happen to encrypt their shit get unfairly targeted.
There's no default of encryption or privacy anymore. Countless times around the country do innocent people give up their rights when dealing with the cops and government just because it's a) easier or b) they've "got nothing to hide" and frankly, that scares me the most.
We are not amused.
Except instead of Rei or Asuka you get Buzz Aldrin... the future is a terrifying place children...
And in space, no one can hear you scream...