The current Korean written language was invented around 1443 - but I did not know until I just looked that up (100 years sounded too recent to me) that the cultural elite did not use it until more recently and made fun of it, calling it the "women's script" and the "children's script". Maybe the US will use the metric system and phonetic spelling sometime in the next 600 years also.
Both Korean and Vietnamese are completely phonetic, and while Chinese students are still learning to read their alphabet in highschool, Korean students are using that time to study more advanced subjects like Physics.
One of my favorite non-fiction writters is Richard Feynman. He wrote in one of his books that he was always felt terrible in English, and hated the arts growing up because it's systems (e.g. spelling rules) were arbitrary. Thankfully he got into a good college because the guy grading his English essays for his entrance papers liked what he had to say and ignored his poor spelling.
It's not simplier spelling - it's phonetic spelling. And you have to be pretty slow not to understand the difference. Our system of spelling has been full of examples of ad-hoc additions from a multitude of different languages - and with the stupidy of keeping spelling systems of the original language even when we do not have the same characters in English. Etymology wise this is interesting, but it is a disaster for teaching or having a sane spelling system. See words with a French history for many examples (just off the top of my head - roux, rendezvous, and depot.) There are spelling systems that are completely phonetic, and it is a real bonus to those cultures and people. (e.g. - Vietnamese and Korean). Or we could go to a more and more obscure spelling system, and still be teaching people to read in highschool (see the Chinese alphabet - ask a native Chinese speaker how many grade levels they spent learning their alphabet sometime) rather than teaching other useful subjects (maths and science anyone?) during that time.
I don't think it is funny. I'm surprised that a company of Microsoft's size can get away with treating security this way. And why are their biggest customers not screaming foul (e.g. Ford, Bank of America, Unisys, Dell, US Government)?!?
They work on a schedule because that's the only way you can do a software project of any size[SNIP]
implied that Microsoft was forced to put out patches this (nonstandard) way because of the size of their offering. Guess I misunderstood your posting.
fm6:
I actually work for Sun.[SNIP]
You're a solaris programmer? Manager? I don't run or administer Sun systems for a few years now, but that is certainly not how I remember them releasing security updates? When did you guys change practices? That should be some interesting conversations at the next USENIX meeting. I would like some more info on when they went to this model if you have it - was it before or after Microsoft decided to do so?
Regardless of how often Microsoft has said otherwise in court, they do not make one product
Other software firms of similiar size do release security patches as needed. And not just Redhat, but IBM, Sun, Novell.... Granted doing so means you can not hide other "upgrades" into "security" packages, but it really is the best thing for the end user.
It should really be called the -28 day attack, or something along those lines, since they are coordinating it to fall shortly after Microsoft's retarded "we only fix security once a month" schedule.
LISA is of the highest quality (like being back in college for all of the best reasons.) There is also OSCON and check for items of interest on LWN's Events Page.
Please stop saying this falsehood - most game consoles have NOT been sold at a loss. And the only reason MicroSoft can do so is because of the buttload of money they get from their OS and Office.
Wow, I had not realized it was already such an awful, stupid mess. With that in mind it is definately a step forward, but I still think everyone would be better served with the simplicity of a text file. The data formats some people use... I mean I can understand it from a first year CS student, but wow.
You don't need a database for sorting algorithms (think gnu sort), but what this will almost certainly do is complicate backup and transfer of bookmarks. I really can't understand what is wrong with a simple text file. Do they not see all the issues Microsoft has because of their registry format??? This is NOT a speed or sorting issue. (I could care less about the history, but don't think that will help anyone other than some possible edge cases there either.)
This will also almost certainly kill any chance of reusage of bookmark data by other programs - which could be a really inovative area if the barrier to entry is kept low. They need to read the Art of Unix Programming.
To manage the applications, R2 will provide shells - a command language interpreter - to run Unix scripts and Telnet clients.
So typical of Microsoft - it's 2006, and to compete with Linux they start offering Telnet clients rather than something actually useful and secure like ssh. I can picture the sales calls and interviews right now, "well, they insisted they wanted Linux compatibility, it's not our fault that Linux telnet is so insecure, if only you had done your implementations the Windows way."
Most nuclear plants dump irradiated waste water straight out of the system. No filtering, no decontamination. Nothing.
You have no idea what you are talking about. None. What carries radiation in pure H2O? What is it's half life? (Admiral Nimitz once drank reactor water to prove it safe - and still these myths.) The water in most modern reactors never turns to steam - it's used as a heat source to turn a secondary water system to steam to drive turbines and other useful equipment - through heat exchangers - look it up. The reactor water, safe as it is, is never dumped anywhere. It lasts the life of the system.
That's not the point at all, it's that someone with a Nobel Laurate has enough political power in the organization that they can have their own way whether or not it makes technological sense. Which means they don't have to put up with technological roadblocks that they do not like. I really don't see why it is so difficult to understand that an organization would treat someone of that level with extra care and respect? Now with that in mind, re-read my post.
Well, I would say the salary survey is the least important thing they do, but if you are concerned with system administration as a profession, ethics, or training, I would say SAGE & USENIX are the two most important organizations available. And it's $155 a year if you want any more than the survey, plus fees for the conference, so it sounds like you really have not seen the real benefits. Try LISA, you will not be disappointed. (;login is good also)
From what I remember of the article, he did not treat students in the Liberal Arts Programs any differently than engineering students. And I know programmers at IBM who do not know how to setup wireless networking in Windows (they spend all day in vi on AIX). I think you are mistaken if you think you are capable of doing anything but hindering and hurting the honest staff and students, and creating a lot of extra hostility and work for yourself from the ones that are not (and you will push some of the honest ones to the other side). And besides, unless I misread your post, they are paying for the machines you are going to refuse them full access to - I'd be upset also. You'd be much better off treating your network like a public part of the internet. But feel free to prove me wrong - just post how it all went for you in two years.
Don't forget to lock the bios so they can't boot Knoppix off the CD or USB.
I once shared your misconception that good security meant lock downed workstations. Then I read a very enlightening interview with the head of network administration at MIT, I think the article was printed in SAGE. (If you are not a member of SAGE and USENIX, I don't think you take your job very seriously.) Anyway... the interviewer asked how he locked down workstations at MIT. As I remember it, his answer was he absolutely did not try. If he wanted to, it would be impossible to force his policies of staff, many of whom are Noble Prize Laureates. Many of the students are smarter than his staff. And, he understood the best service he could provide was to empower the staff and students to be as creative and productive as they could be. He supplied help, security resources, and internal protections to prevent abuses from affecting other areas of the network when there was a problem, otherwise he generally stayed out of their way.
But after 2 years with the company. What helped me was I did a lot of homework, and I was honest. Told them I liked my work, and wanted to stay with the company, but these are my personal goals.... The one that made it for me was housing - I told them one of my goals was to own my home, in the city. Gave them a realestate map with the areas of the city I liked, and the median home price in each of those areas, and then the median income I would need to get a home in each area. They decided to invest in me and my goals. I don't have a home in the historical district I really like, but I have a very nice place with a shorter commute than many of my co-workers and one of the best school districts in the area.
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The current Korean written language was invented around 1443 - but I did not know until I just looked that up (100 years sounded too recent to me) that the cultural elite did not use it until more recently and made fun of it, calling it the "women's script" and the "children's script". Maybe the US will use the metric system and phonetic spelling sometime in the next 600 years also.
I disagree, they are not learning new words (maybe some), they are still learning their writing system.
Oh yes, I am so stupid for calling a writing system an alphabet, could not imagine anyone else doing so.
Both Korean and Vietnamese are completely phonetic, and while Chinese students are still learning to read their alphabet in highschool, Korean students are using that time to study more advanced subjects like Physics.
One of my favorite non-fiction writters is Richard Feynman. He wrote in one of his books that he was always felt terrible in English, and hated the arts growing up because it's systems (e.g. spelling rules) were arbitrary. Thankfully he got into a good college because the guy grading his English essays for his entrance papers liked what he had to say and ignored his poor spelling.
It's not simplier spelling - it's phonetic spelling. And you have to be pretty slow not to understand the difference. Our system of spelling has been full of examples of ad-hoc additions from a multitude of different languages - and with the stupidy of keeping spelling systems of the original language even when we do not have the same characters in English. Etymology wise this is interesting, but it is a disaster for teaching or having a sane spelling system. See words with a French history for many examples (just off the top of my head - roux, rendezvous, and depot.) There are spelling systems that are completely phonetic, and it is a real bonus to those cultures and people. (e.g. - Vietnamese and Korean). Or we could go to a more and more obscure spelling system, and still be teaching people to read in highschool (see the Chinese alphabet - ask a native Chinese speaker how many grade levels they spent learning their alphabet sometime) rather than teaching other useful subjects (maths and science anyone?) during that time.
I don't think it is funny. I'm surprised that a company of Microsoft's size can get away with treating security this way. And why are their biggest customers not screaming foul (e.g. Ford, Bank of America, Unisys, Dell, US Government)?!?
fm6: implied that Microsoft was forced to put out patches this (nonstandard) way because of the size of their offering. Guess I misunderstood your posting.
fm6:
You're a solaris programmer? Manager? I don't run or administer Sun systems for a few years now, but that is certainly not how I remember them releasing security updates? When did you guys change practices? That should be some interesting conversations at the next USENIX meeting. I would like some more info on when they went to this model if you have it - was it before or after Microsoft decided to do so?
It is not a popularity problem - it's a "our marketing and sales departments delegate everything to our engineering and security departments" problem.
It should really be called the -28 day attack, or something along those lines, since they are coordinating it to fall shortly after Microsoft's retarded "we only fix security once a month" schedule.
LISA is of the highest quality (like being back in college for all of the best reasons.) There is also OSCON and check for items of interest on LWN's Events Page.
Please stop saying this falsehood - most game consoles have NOT been sold at a loss. And the only reason MicroSoft can do so is because of the buttload of money they get from their OS and Office.
Don't use the stylus - that's what the thumb button on the wrist strap is for.
Wow, I had not realized it was already such an awful, stupid mess. With that in mind it is definately a step forward, but I still think everyone would be better served with the simplicity of a text file. The data formats some people use... I mean I can understand it from a first year CS student, but wow.
You don't need a database for sorting algorithms (think gnu sort), but what this will almost certainly do is complicate backup and transfer of bookmarks. I really can't understand what is wrong with a simple text file. Do they not see all the issues Microsoft has because of their registry format??? This is NOT a speed or sorting issue. (I could care less about the history, but don't think that will help anyone other than some possible edge cases there either.)
This will also almost certainly kill any chance of reusage of bookmark data by other programs - which could be a really inovative area if the barrier to entry is kept low. They need to read the Art of Unix Programming.
I am just about ready to start seriously researching Groupwise on Linux - have you tried it? What keeps you away?
So typical of Microsoft - it's 2006, and to compete with Linux they start offering Telnet clients rather than something actually useful and secure like ssh. I can picture the sales calls and interviews right now, "well, they insisted they wanted Linux compatibility, it's not our fault that Linux telnet is so insecure, if only you had done your implementations the Windows way."
You have no idea what you are talking about. None. What carries radiation in pure H2O? What is it's half life? (Admiral Nimitz once drank reactor water to prove it safe - and still these myths.) The water in most modern reactors never turns to steam - it's used as a heat source to turn a secondary water system to steam to drive turbines and other useful equipment - through heat exchangers - look it up. The reactor water, safe as it is, is never dumped anywhere. It lasts the life of the system.
Here is a nice picture to explain the heat exchange cycle of a presurized water reactor for you.
That's not the point at all, it's that someone with a Nobel Laurate has enough political power in the organization that they can have their own way whether or not it makes technological sense. Which means they don't have to put up with technological roadblocks that they do not like. I really don't see why it is so difficult to understand that an organization would treat someone of that level with extra care and respect? Now with that in mind, re-read my post.
Well, I would say the salary survey is the least important thing they do, but if you are concerned with system administration as a profession, ethics, or training, I would say SAGE & USENIX are the two most important organizations available. And it's $155 a year if you want any more than the survey, plus fees for the conference, so it sounds like you really have not seen the real benefits. Try LISA, you will not be disappointed. (;login is good also)
Don't forget to lock the bios so they can't boot Knoppix off the CD or USB.
Maybe you need to rethink your goals?
But after 2 years with the company. What helped me was I did a lot of homework, and I was honest. Told them I liked my work, and wanted to stay with the company, but these are my personal goals.... The one that made it for me was housing - I told them one of my goals was to own my home, in the city. Gave them a realestate map with the areas of the city I liked, and the median home price in each of those areas, and then the median income I would need to get a home in each area. They decided to invest in me and my goals. I don't have a home in the historical district I really like, but I have a very nice place with a shorter commute than many of my co-workers and one of the best school districts in the area.