This would seem to be an impossible desire. In Orwell's 1984, the whole idea of Big Brother was that everyone knew they were under constant surveillance.
Cooking fires still cause major pollution. One of the big arguments for solar cooking has been reduction of pollution from wood heat.
A cooking fire less efficient than a stove? No way.
Consider the following total emissions:
1. Person lights gas stove, cooks dinner in 5 minutes to 1/2 hour. Gas off, emissions off.
2. Person gathers wood and starts a fire. Takes much longer to get the fire going and start cooking. Fire is not as hot, so boiling water takes longer. Compared to a stove or oven, most of the energy escapes. When she is done cooking, fire continues to burn until it burns out. Or, more likely, matches are more expensive than wood, so she keeps it going.
Multiply each by the number of stoves/fires.
Insignificant? Prove it.
FWIW, In my part of the world, smoke from burning wood became the #1 source of air pollution in the 70's and 80's.
I've lived in several countries and I've visited many others, including most of the U.S. Of the ones I went to, China, the former Eastern Bloc, and the Middle East were by far the filthiest. Canada, U.S. and Australia were very comparable to each other.
Since you complain about the U.S., have you been there?
I grew up in the countryside. You learn quickly not to crap in your water source. Most people in Communist and Middle East countries can't seem to understand that basic idea.
Just because you poison your air doesn't mean everyone else does.
I asked an honest, scientific question. You answered with an irrational rant and didn't truly answer my questions.
How do they measure pollution? How accurate is it? Are the graphs a reflection of actual pollution, or a measure of better record keeping?
I had a friend complaining how the U.S. "uses the most energy per capita." I asked him how they measure it. (yup, I read Feynman)
Do they only count only coal, oil, and electricity?
What about locally produced energy? Do they count all the (inefficient) cooking fires in 3rd world countries?
What about countries where the government officials fudge the statistics to get a bonus or make their boss happy?
Be careful about getting too dogmatic about the heliocentric view...
Scientifically, there is nothing inherently wrong with the geocentric view. It is an issue of where you want to establish your datum. (zero point.) The main advantage if the heliocentric view is simpler math.
From a larger perspective, the solar system also orbits the center of the Milky Way. (Stupid heliocentrists.;-)
If you really want to split hairs, find the center of the universe and establish your datum there.
Datums are established by politics and convention.
In the end, the debate is not about science or even religion. It is about politics.
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Let me guess, he used a very thin layer of cream cheese to increase the surface area - right?
Of course he's only done modeling - do you realize how difficult it is to test solar cells in Oregon? :-)
This would seem to be an impossible desire. In Orwell's 1984, the whole idea of Big Brother was that everyone knew they were under constant surveillance.
1984 - Michael Moore's Cuban paradise.
If you wanted a thin layer of carbon, wouldn't it be easier just to toast the bagel?
It's not science, it's metaphysics. Go look up the definition.
Until someone creates a time machine, no one can prove origins - creation or evolution - with science.
No, it's job security.
i bet the nuke weapons design got the best bang-for-the-buck
What about the guy who came up with the Big Bang? Created not only the Big-Bang, but also the bucks.
Or the manufacturers of the famous Nissan huts?
Canadians, always playing both sides.
/sarc
The Chinese Communist teach school kids that one of Mao's heroes was a guy who sacrificed his life to save a goat from being run over by a train.
GP is obviously a Pointy Haired Boss -- the "patriotic" type who outsources IT work.
BTW, there is more than one type of IT. Programming is generally more taxing than support. Although support has its moments.
2) Risky - You send a money order for $60. If it is a scam, why should he/she send the drive?
Forget? Nope.
Did you read my post?
Ataris were popular in later 70's.
the female skeleton has been dated at 13,600 years old.
They must be desperate if they resort to dating a 13,600 year old skeleton.
According to "Modern" theory, writing did not develop until the 1st Millenium B.C.E.*
* This was a "know fact" among "scholars" of the late 19th century C.E. until later debunked.
Reminds me of the The Motel of Mysteries
Blu-Ray popularity will skyrocket when we get another hurricane like Katrina...
(Gustav just didn't give the looters a chance.)
The 70's were 30 years ago ...
30 years ago, they stuck a card into their Atari to play a game.
Cooking fires still cause major pollution. One of the big arguments for solar cooking has been reduction of pollution from wood heat.
A cooking fire less efficient than a stove? No way.
Consider the following total emissions:
1. Person lights gas stove, cooks dinner in 5 minutes to 1/2 hour. Gas off, emissions off.
2. Person gathers wood and starts a fire. Takes much longer to get the fire going and start cooking. Fire is not as hot, so boiling water takes longer. Compared to a stove or oven, most of the energy escapes. When she is done cooking, fire continues to burn until it burns out. Or, more likely, matches are more expensive than wood, so she keeps it going.
Multiply each by the number of stoves/fires.
Insignificant? Prove it.
FWIW, In my part of the world, smoke from burning wood became the #1 source of air pollution in the 70's and 80's.
I've lived in several countries and I've visited many others, including most of the U.S. Of the ones I went to, China, the former Eastern Bloc, and the Middle East were by far the filthiest. Canada, U.S. and Australia were very comparable to each other.
Since you complain about the U.S., have you been there?
I grew up in the countryside. You learn quickly not to crap in your water source. Most people in Communist and Middle East countries can't seem to understand that basic idea.
Just because you poison your air doesn't mean everyone else does.
I asked an honest, scientific question. You answered with an irrational rant and didn't truly answer my questions.
Google Earth, meet Google Sky.
That is a nice graph and all...
How do they measure pollution?
How accurate is it?
Are the graphs a reflection of actual pollution, or a measure of better record keeping?
I had a friend complaining how the U.S. "uses the most energy per capita." I asked him how they measure it. (yup, I read Feynman)
Do they only count only coal, oil, and electricity?
What about locally produced energy? Do they count all the (inefficient) cooking fires in 3rd world countries?
What about countries where the government officials fudge the statistics to get a bonus or make their boss happy?
Not trolling, just honest questions.
And the women, they're looking for a powerful man to knock them up, and a nice dedicated man to stick with her and raise a family.
The powerful man can be replaced with a $5.00 turkey baster.
A little more difficult to replace the family man.
Of course. Those in monogamous relationships get sex on demand and home cooked meals!
All my married friends tell me that.
No.
Sex-on-demand is a different gene, as is home-cooked-meals.
As evidence, look at all the people stuck in starving, monogamous relationships.
In some relationships, you find two people in love. In others, you find two people just trying to screw each other.
if it weren't for the other prisoners, it'd be paradise.
Solitary confinement is paradise?
Considering that she grew up hunting big game in Alaska, if you tried, she'd probably double tap you.
Be careful about getting too dogmatic about the heliocentric view...
Scientifically, there is nothing inherently wrong with the geocentric view. It is an issue of where you want to establish your datum. (zero point.) The main advantage if the heliocentric view is simpler math.
From a larger perspective, the solar system also orbits the center of the Milky Way. (Stupid heliocentrists. ;-)
If you really want to split hairs, find the center of the universe and establish your datum there.
Datums are established by politics and convention.
In the end, the debate is not about science or even religion. It is about politics.